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MelantheLLC
Mar. 1, 2009, 03:00 PM
By "better" I mean, with more relaxation, balance and lighter more effective communication with your horse.

I've been thinking about this after reading the topics on chatty students and the dressage trail class.

For me, I was taught in my early training by instructors from European traditions, and you DID NOT TALK during the lesson. There was a question/answer period at the end. But you shut up and Just Did It in the lesson, and you NEVER gave a reason or excuse for not doing it. This went for my piano teacher (Miss Kraxner, Hungarian, I was terrified of her, the only teacher I can still name from my childhood), my riding instructor and my sister's Russian ice-skating coach. What these instructors did was instill that bone-and-gut level training that you repeat so often that it sinks way below conscious thought.

They weren't kind about it. Many many many students dropped out. (One night when my father picked me up from my piano lesson, he found me in tears. When I told him how frightened I was of the woman, he told me I didn't have to go back. I never did and I never touched a piano again. She taught me well but I didn't love playing as much as I feared her. She effectively killed my initial enjoyment of playing.)

In later days, I've very much enjoyed working with dressage trainers who seem use more of a sports psychology approach, with much more positive feedback. I do talk a lot now, because I am analytical by nature. I'm fortunate to have instructors that will discuss things with me, but I do very much have a tendency to over-think things.

So (back to the topic!) I've actually found that when I chat, as long as it's about general things and not about dressage, I ride my best. I can do things w/o thinking about them that I can't do if I consciously try.

For me, I think this works because my body DOES know what to do, once I get out of its way. If I trot along for awhile discussing whether it's going to rain tomorrow, I will suddenly find myself riding a relaxed horse that is using its back and making balanced turns instead of falling in.

The other (more focused) thing that helps me carry my own balance through patterns and exercises is to imagine I'm on a jumping course. This seems to allow me to get my eyes up and my attention focused on where I'm going instead of fixating on every little thing that I think is happening underneath me.

So I love the idea of the dressage trail course, from that angle.

But I don't think these things would work for me if I hadn't had the initial base of Just Do It repetitive work that taught my body, through constant reproval of mistakes.

However, those reprovals are always in my head, telling me what I'm doing wrong and how to fix it. So unless I get out from under the WORDS, and let my body do what it knows, I am tense.

What sort of visualizations and approaches help you get out of your head and into your body and with the horse?

merrygoround
Mar. 1, 2009, 03:35 PM
I can empathasize with your instructors. Sometimes you simply need to let your body do it, and get out of its way. Stopping in the middle to analyse things can leave you with a lesson in which little gets accomplished.

Some days I sing out loud, but mostly I just carry the tune in my head. I like to visualize where I need to be several strides before I get there. That gives me the focus to set up and prepare. Dwelling on the moment is counterproductive. It is the next moment, and those that follow that that is important. :)

Transplant
Mar. 1, 2009, 04:42 PM
I ride better when I focus on getting a good, comfortable forward-going movement with the horse. I'm pretty analytical but I'm lucky that I don't overanalyze the feel of the horse under me. The movement either seems effortless or like it takes too much work. Once I have a good rhythm with the horse, then my mind and body are more receptive to my instructor's advice. I can best work on one thing at a time though so that I can practice it until I assimilate it into the correct feel of the horse's movement and then that's one less thing to worry about.

I don't benefit from chatting about unrelated stuff while riding; I do better when I focus on one riding thing that I or my instructor wants me to work on. I'm pretty appreciative of an instructor that keeps harping on one thing until I get it right but I don't benefit so much if the instructor jumps from one thing to another without really checking to see if I got the first thing right. It's TMI or Too Much Information.

slc2
Mar. 1, 2009, 04:58 PM
What makes my ride better?

Exactly what makes everyone ride better.

Working hard and riding as frequently as possible with someone who is utterly merciless screaming appropriate remarks at me.

DancingSeahorse
Mar. 1, 2009, 06:54 PM
2-3 glasses of wine. :)

quietann
Mar. 1, 2009, 07:11 PM
What makes my ride better?

Exactly what makes everyone ride better.

Working hard and riding as frequently as possible with someone who is utterly merciless screaming appropriate remarks at me.

NOT everyone else, which I think is the point the OP was trying to make?

No seriously, if I'd gotten myself in with such an instructor since I started riding again, I would probably have quit. I am already extremely self-critical, timid, and sensitive. This is just my personality. *No one* gets to put me in tears over my riding but me.

My current trainer and I seem to have a running dialogue during our lessons. She's giving me feedback, I'm telling her what I think is going on, she's encouraging me, we're both trying to fix the things that need fixing. She can be a little snarky but it's all in a fun way -- and I am sure that I am one of the more frustrating students she's had, but she's very patient, so she is allowed her snark.

I do need to be pushed a little, to face the things that scare me. Today, my trainer needed to bring her tractor into the indoor because of the impending snowstorm. She encouraged me to stay on my sometimes-spooky mare anyway, and reminded me I know how to deal with a nervous horse (***breathe***, sit deep, keep the horse moving forward and turn her head away from the scary thing). And it worked, at least partially because I knew Mary wouldn't scream at me if it didn't.

MelantheLLC
Mar. 1, 2009, 07:13 PM
2-3 glasses of wine. :)

LOL I think that would help too!

I can beat everybody at pool and speak Spanish really well with 2-3 beers. Beyond that, and I go limp.

Transplant
Mar. 1, 2009, 09:53 PM
I don't mind screaming if its the only way the instructor can make herself heard. I've ridden in some noisy school rings and my hearing isn't that good.

Also if I'm doing something dangerous, then scream and curse me all you want. Just don't forget to tell me what to do to stop being dangerous. ;)

EquiBitch
Mar. 1, 2009, 10:14 PM
What makes me ride better ?

Reading IDEAYODA, Gallop, Pammy

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Sabine
Mar. 1, 2009, 11:13 PM
I ride better when I go to the gym at least 3 times a week and do ball/weight/cardio for one hour. I ride better when I watch 100 excellent dressage rides on video and memorize the parts that are superb. I ride better when I am totally focussed and undisturbed.
I ride better when I have a lesson with my instructor- who is very precise, uses a comtec and does not throw my concentration off- but points out little details- that make a huge improvement in the ride.
I ride better when I've had a good night's sleep before and I have a plan.

I don't ride better with yelling instructors, a lot of chatter, lack of focus, gossiping and lots of disturbances going on that interfere with my paths in the arena and little kids around that don't know how to steer...so yes- I guess I am a rotten DQ afterall...haha!

MelantheLLC
Mar. 1, 2009, 11:34 PM
I'm interested in what people find while riding that creates a better ride/response in the immediate moment.

On another board, someone mentioned closing their eyes for a few seconds while making a canter transition.

Petstorejunkie
Mar. 1, 2009, 11:42 PM
My instructor has commented more than once that I am a phenomenal rider when i am not concentrating on it. I'm too "in my head" so most of my warm up time is spent talking about something or another not lesson related so my horse and i can sync up. honestly distraction is my key to success :lol:

atr
Mar. 2, 2009, 12:09 AM
What makes be ride "better?"

Riding with conciousness of what I'm doing with my body.

The horse does what we ask it to do. We simply have to learn how to ask correctly and stay out of the way while he does it.

Hostile yelling gets nowhere with me--as somone else said, loud enough that I can hear is great, but no attitude, please. I'm doing my best to follow instructions. If I'm effing it up it's because I don't understand, not because I'm either lazy or stupid.

Kind of that same principle you'd follow with the horse.

Sabine
Mar. 2, 2009, 02:21 AM
I'm interested in what people find while riding that creates a better ride/response in the immediate moment.

On another board, someone mentioned closing their eyes for a few seconds while making a canter transition.

this is a phase you'll go through- where you use little 'bridges ' to get more relaxed, more focussed, more loose, more core-driven etc...but if you do this for a while- you'll get past that stage and then your ability to focus begins when you set your foot in the stirup.
All I am trying to tell you is- basically - that there are many more stages than the one you are in right now- and they keep on moving past you- if you don't give up trying to get the best ride possible- everytime you sit on that horse. After a while- your body will know- and your mind will stop being soo dominant and it will go back to being under your instinct. At least that's how it is for me...

Rusty Stirrup
Mar. 2, 2009, 08:36 AM
It really helps me if I don't have an "written in stone" agenda and forget the "you wills" as WAZ calls them. If I take the time to read my horse (and myself) at the beginning of the ride and decide if it's a good day to introduce something new or just review (and I have a couple of wonderful trainers that agree). But if I approach it as a case of "I must work on this today" the ride is never as productive.