10 min box video

[crittertwitter]

When we went to our first long-format one star, we had one of our pit crew videotape the 10 minute box. I had a lot of anxiety about what we needed to have on hand and what we needed to do in that ever so short 10 minutes. I badgered our trainer about it, recited what our schedule would be, etc, we ran rehearsals a few times. :lol: I even posted about it here for tips.

Anyway, I finally got around to editing our video from Morven (October) - and will post a link to the 10 min box video if anyone else has the same curiosity I had. Having never been in the 10 minute box, I wasn't sure what to expect, so I'll post it if anyone is curious. Let me know... the LF was the most educational experience!

[SuZQuzie]

I would be very interested in watching it. :)

[LSM1212]

So would I. :)

[ValleyMiss]

Me too

[LLDM]

I would love to see it too!

SCFarm

[Invested1]

Me too!! :yes:

[Divine Comedy]

Me too!

[crittertwitter]

Voici... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYXfvtKp6B0&feature=channel_page

Thanks for the enthusiasm! :)

And here's the chase, too - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyWJSYEo_kg&feature=channel_page
:)

[yellowbritches]

A great resource! Thanks for videoing it. I would have liked a video like that for my first time working in tha 10 minute box! Thankfully, I had some really experienced people running the show.

[yellowbritches]

PS- He looked SUPER fit! Didn't even look like he was blowing at all. Or, he was holding his breath, as he was obviously not happy about the ice water! :lol:

[Ajierene]

Thank you for the video. Yet another reason my mare could never do the 1/2* - she would likely kick everyone, especially water and strangers picking her feet. Then there is the vet and everything....she's just not 1/2* material....

I do have a question - what was the reason for you sitting back. I mean no ill intent, I was just wondering if it was required or if you had enough volunteers that they were able to effectively shoo you away.

[takethestage]

That was a great video, I'll have to show it to my dad once I get to that point, seeing as he'll be my helper!

Ajierene, from my understanding, the 10 minute box is meant to relax and rest the horse AND the rider, so they can be mentally set for Phase D. I'd think most people aren't lucky enough to have so many people to help them out, but it's probably a good idea for the rider to just chill for five minutes or so, and not have to do everything to cool down and check the horse.

[QHEventr]

I can't speak for anyone else, but when I ran three days...My mom, and my Best Friend (who was kind enough to play groom) MADE me sit down in the 10 min box so I could catch my breath, go over my course, minute markers, and take a drink. I would sit down, talk to my coach, and visualize the course....The were only able to get me to sit down after I loved all over Diamond, watched him jog....got his vitals from the vets, and was told to sit down MANY MANY times.....it was very hard for me to sit back and watch, but I knew that Dime was in very capable hands, and I would be a more capable rider for it.

Johanna

[crittertwitter]

Thank you for the video. Yet another reason my mare could never do the 1/2* - she would likely kick everyone, especially water and strangers picking her feet. Then there is the vet and everything....she's just not 1/2* material....

I do have a question - what was the reason for you sitting back. I mean no ill intent, I was just wondering if it was required or if you had enough volunteers that they were able to effectively shoo you away.

Aw. That's supposed to be a "You can do this easily" video, not a "My mare would never tolerate that." Octavian reared - very high and quite mighty - after xc. He has his own ideas about ground manners. Plus, your crew can be people your mare knows and if she's really that opposed to ice water torture, you don't absolutely have to use ice.

As far as that Huxley sitting back there... that lazy rider! Nah, seriously, she was about as bitter at being told to sit in the corner and watch as Octavian was at having his studs checked. She is very hands-on and type-A when it comes to Octavian, so that was hard for her, but our trainer said it's what she should do. It's customary apparently... you figure the rider has been out there with the horse trotting for 20 mins, then galloping for a couple of mins, then trotting another 30 mins. It's a low-key time for them to, so they can sit down and focus on the course ahead.

[yellowbritches]

The rider needs to focus, catch her breath, maybe get a quick run down on the course from her coach, have a pee, throw up, have a drink, eat a snack, whatever. Keep in mind that by the time the horse and rider get to the this point, they've trotted around roads and tracks, galloped around steeplechase, then did some more roads and tracks. They need a little rest just as much as the horse. I know for a lot of riders, especially ammies and juniors who are used to dealing with their horse, it is REALLY hard to not be doing it all, but it is important that they take those quick few minutes and clear their head for what's coming next.

As for the crew, we always put who ever knows the horse best at the head, as they are often the ones who can tell when the horse needs a breather from the people, can sooth it if it gets high strung, and, if they REALLY know the horse, should be able to quickly pick up on something wrong. They are also usually the boss (at least in our box, that's the case). The rest of the crew should be assigned one job and just do it, keep their mouth shut (don't bother the rider!!!), and be quick, efficient, and on their toes. Personally, I would not have bothered with checking the studs, for the very reason that horse gave in the video. I can see why you'd want to, but as long as they have their shoes and their studs, it just can be too much of a drama!

[eponacowgirl]

Ohhhh.... that gave me goosebumps for when I finally get to do the T3D!

[Ajierene]

Aw. That's supposed to be a "You can do this easily" video, not a "My mare would never tolerate that." Octavian reared - very high and quite mighty - after xc. He has his own ideas about ground manners. Plus, your crew can be people your mare knows and if she's really that opposed to ice water torture, you don't absolutely have to use ice.

As far as that Huxley sitting back there... that lazy rider! Nah, seriously, she was about as bitter at being told to sit in the corner and watch as Octavian was at having his studs checked. She is very hands-on and type-A when it comes to Octavian, so that was hard for her, but our trainer said it's what she should do. It's customary apparently... you figure the rider has been out there with the horse trotting for 20 mins, then galloping for a couple of mins, then trotting another 30 mins. It's a low-key time for them to, so they can sit down and focus on the course ahead.

Thanks for the vote of confidence....she isn't even at Training level yet and I toy with the idea of a Novice Three Day (if they ever have one), but there are many factors that make that hard. I may talk to my trainer about it this spring (maybe a 1/2* in a year or two....), but I have a feeling she would agree with me about logistics other than ability.

I am glad you shared the video, though. I watched the steeplechase one also and it does not look scary at all!

Thanks everyone for the pointers on the 10 min box. I was not sure if it was mandatory per the rules or just a really good idea....apparently it is a really good idea and great if you can do it.

[crittertwitter]

PS- He looked SUPER fit! Didn't even look like he was blowing at all. Or, he was holding his breath, as he was obviously not happy about the ice water! :lol:

Thanks for noticing ;) They worked really hard conditioning for that! Isn't that kind of a neat thing about going to lf events... sweaty, muscled up, steaming hot horses everywhere! :lol:

[yellowbritches]

Thanks for noticing ;) They worked really hard conditioning for that! Isn't that kind of a neat thing about going to lf events... sweaty, muscled up, steaming hot horses everywhere! :lol:
I also get kinda giddy when I look at really fit event horses!!! :lol: Nothing like it!

[QHEventr]

I just watched the video....I know it was only a 4 min clip of the 10 min box and therefor doesn't show everything, but I would want to clarify (if i was using this as an educational video) that there should be a TON of walking going on. I had anyone who was helping be in the box walk and ice at the same time....our mantra was
ice/scrape/walk....ice/scrape/walk.......we tried to keep them moving most of the time...not just to help with the cooling process, but they have to stay loose for the XC.

Not picking....just would add that if this was to be used for education....

Your horse looked VERY fit! Congrats on a GREAT performance, you both looked great!....I also had a hard time sitting back in the box...I'm a very hands on person

Johanna

[CookiePony]

Thanks for posting this! Off to watch it now...

[RunForIt]

Thank you SOOO much for posting this - I do hope you know how lucky you are to have done this - your horse looks like it was all just a breeze - the best part for me was watching those ears prick after each chase jump when he got to GALLOP!!!!!! :cool:

[crittertwitter]

Thanks for all the positive comments! :D

For the record, I was not the rider there - I was part of the pit crew. I see where that was ambiguous, though, seeing that I kept just saying "we" - the rider is my sister - there's this big age gap and I have observed some excessive involvement on my part.

(funny side story - Last year, her trainer, asked how the skinny mushroom went at Southern Pines and I piped up and said, "We didn't get to jump a mushroom!" We? Annoying, huh? Anyway, hopefully that's forgiveable. I'm just terribly fond of both of them, as I've known Octavian since he was 2 and Huxley is my little sister, of course)

Agreed, they were lucky to get to experience what appears to be a soon-to-be-lost opportunity. The long format, aka "real" event, was Huxley's goal growing up and it was so exhilerating to see her achieve it with Octavian.

And for me... it was nice to be able to work in the ten min box, too, rather than standing around biting my fingernails like I do at all the hts. :lol:

[Stay Gold]

I just watched the video....I know it was only a 4 min clip of the 10 min box and therefor doesn't show everything, but I would want to clarify (if i was using this as an educational video) that there should be a TON of walking going on. I had anyone who was helping be in the box walk and ice at the same time....our mantra was
ice/scrape/walk....ice/scrape/walk.......we tried to keep them moving most of the time...not just to help with the cooling process, but they have to stay loose for the XC.

Not picking....just would add that if this was to be used for education....

Your horse looked VERY fit! Congrats on a GREAT performance, you both looked great!....I also had a hard time sitting back in the box...I'm a very hands on person

Johanna

I would highly agree to the walking... When I was grooming at CCI's such at Fair Hill, the riders often had one person walk the horse, the other (we usually only had 2 helpers including myself) following the walking horse with bucket of ice water and sponged/scraped as we walked

[faluut42]

awesome video!

btw, octavian is GORGOUS!!!! I want him!

[TSHEventing]

This video makes me sad..I will probably never do a 10 minute box again thanks to this "new format"

[snoopy]

The rider needs to focus, catch her breath, maybe get a quick run down on the course from her coach, have a pee, throw up, have a drink, eat a snack, whatever. Keep in mind that by the time the horse and rider get to the this point, they've trotted around roads and tracks, galloped around steeplechase, then did some more roads and tracks. They need a little rest just as much as the horse. I know for a lot of riders, especially ammies and juniors who are used to dealing with their horse, it is REALLY hard to not be doing it all, but it is important that they take those quick few minutes and clear their head for what's coming next.

As for the crew, we always put who ever knows the horse best at the head, as they are often the ones who can tell when the horse needs a breather from the people, can sooth it if it gets high strung, and, if they REALLY know the horse, should be able to quickly pick up on something wrong. They are also usually the boss (at least in our box, that's the case). The rest of the crew should be assigned one job and just do it, keep their mouth shut (don't bother the rider!!!), and be quick, efficient, and on their toes. Personally, I would not have bothered with checking the studs, for the very reason that horse gave in the video. I can see why you'd want to, but as long as they have their shoes and their studs, it just can be too much of a drama!



Love this, you would have thought this was the Olympics they way you described it YB!!!
And I have NEVER seen such clean and um..tentative... crew in my life. Go on girls, get a bit wet and dirty it will not kill you. I expected to hear an "EWWWW" and "Oh My god" at some point.

Very entertaining, thanks for sharing.

[KCsToo]

...I'm just terribly fond of both of them, as I've known Octavian since he was 2 and Huxley is my little sister, of course)

Agreed, they were lucky to get to experience what appears to be a soon-to-be-lost opportunity. The long format, aka "real" event, was Huxley's goal growing up and it was so exhilerating to see her achieve it with Octavian.

And for me... it was nice to be able to work in the ten min box, too, rather than standing around biting my fingernails like I do at all the hts. :lol:


You sound like a perfectly sweet sister!

[crittertwitter]

I posted this because I would have liked to have seen the 10 minute box action before I had to actually do it. I read all this stuff about water buckets, what to stock in your trunk, etc. and how everyone had a "station" in the field and I couldn't for the life of me envision it. If using it for a major educational tool, I would, as a few of you said, point out that this isn't the full 10 minutes and there was a lot more walking than is shown.


And I have NEVER seen such clean and um..tentative... crew in my life. Go on girls, get a bit wet and dirty it will not kill you. I expected to hear an "EWWWW" and "Oh My god" at some point.

Very entertaining, thanks for sharing.

Perhaps this is more what you were in the mood for:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIuvlqKX0TY
lol

Seriously, though, I think there is enough interest in it that you would be doing a good service to post your 10 minute box footage if you think it is a better representation.

Huxley and I were extremely grateful for the extra help and I think, if anything, what you see as persnickety behavior is actually interpersonal courtesy, e.g, trying to stay out of each other's way while also not engaging in an all out ice slinging, as well as avoiding the saddle, reins, etc. to make sure they didn't get slick. I have a lot of respect and appreciation for those who helped at the 10 minute box. They are conscientious, positive, careful, and encouraging. If it weren't for them, there would have been 2 absolute 10 minute box neophytes stumbling around trying to do it all and we couldn't have spared the one to do the video.

[Invested1]

Big thumbs up to the kid wearing the UVA t-shirt. :D
(not necessarily for anything she did or didn't do in the box, just for wearing the shirt)

[snoopy]

I posted this because I would have liked to have seen the 10 minute box action before I had to actually do it. I read all this stuff about water buckets, what to stock in your trunk, etc. and how everyone had a "station" in the field and I couldn't for the life of me envision it. If using it for a major educational tool, I would, as a few of you said, point out that this isn't the full 10 minutes and there was a lot more walking than is shown.



Perhaps this is more what you were in the mood for:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIuvlqKX0TY
lol

Seriously, though, I think there is enough interest in it that you would be doing a good service to post your 10 minute box footage if you think it is a better representation.

Huxley and I were extremely grateful for the extra help and I think, if anything, what you see as persnickety behavior is actually interpersonal courtesy, e.g, trying to stay out of each other's way while also not engaging in an all out ice slinging, as well as avoiding the saddle, reins, etc. to make sure they didn't get slick. I have a lot of respect and appreciation for those who helped at the 10 minute box. They are conscientious, positive, careful, and encouraging. If it weren't for them, there would have been 2 absolute 10 minute box neophytes stumbling around trying to do it all and we couldn't have spared the one to do the video.



You obviously missed the humour in my post....I think it was a great idea that you took video of the box, a great learning tool and obviously of great interest. Sorry if you took my comment as offensive.

[Hilary]

Thank you for posting this. As the rider went to her chair I thought "this is going to be the hardest part for me to do!" I know as a groom I can say "you go sit down, let me take care of it" but when it comes to someone doing it for me? Yeah, right... But that's part of the game, right?

Thank you for posting the 'chase clip too - you could see him get more smooth as he went along. :)