Animal Communicator: did it...update post 56

[BuddyRoo]

Okay. I'm signed up for a reading on my horses. So if you feel that all of this is hooey garbage, I hear you. I am skeptical but open minded. And I feel like it's worth a shot.

What I need help with is formulating questions that are not leading or conducive to "cold reading".

I have 3 critters I plan to talk about. One is a dog, the other two are horse.

The one I'm most concerned about has been vetted, looked at by a dentist, a chiro, and an MT. Her feet are great. She is happy on the ground. Happy on the longe with tack. Tack appears to fit. Happy on the trail.

Generally, I would consider her naughty behavior a simple "flipping me the bird" when she is asked to do something that wasn't her idea. However, given her otherwise kind nature, I'm not convinced that I'm not missing something.

She has a history of abuse. She has a propensity to go up. She has gone over on me though it was a bit flukey, the fact remains, she's done it. She kicks out or bucks when you put a leg on and ask for forward. When I first started riding her, there was simply NO forward. Only straight up. So she's come a long way. But I'm frustrated. I know she's smart, and I know she's sensitive. But SOMETHING is wrong. It's either behavioral or I and the better riders than me are all idiots (which I don't think is the case).

Things that have come up in the past as far as suggestions...
-teeth
-saddle fit
-back pain
-hock pain
-attitude
-ulcers
-hormones
-ovarian cysts
-attitude
-attitude
-attitude

If you were trying to ask questions about such a horse, what would you ask?

I want to ask open ended questions that are not leading.

IE: Is there something you want me to know about how you feel under saddle? rather than "Do you hate being ridden you rotten wench or what?"

Ya know?

And yes, I know...fruitloopy. I get it. I get it. I get it. But I have spent $$ on other avenues...and I'll call this "entertainment" when I write it down in my budget. I just want some ideas.

[horsekpr]

I don't think I would ask questions.I would let the reader just tell me what they get. Hopefully the reader will without asking you anything be able to come up with something that describes her.
I had one lady read a horse on the farm and the first thing she said was "this is really strange ,it is like this horse has a split personality. I almost feel like I am reading 2 different horses" She was right on the money with that ,and that description did not fit any other horse i know.

[amastrike]

I've wondered this about my mare, who is bitchy and tense... If I were to have an animal communicator talk to her, my question would be "what do you want?"

[SpecialEffects]

Buddy Roo I just want to say, I'm really skeptical but I would never say you're fruitloopy. I had a dog that was healthy all her life then she suddenly was not. After test after test, no vets could figure it out and I was considering a reading because I couldn't think of anything else. So good luck.... I hope you get your answers.

And I agree... don't ask. Let the communicator tell you things.

[LaurieB]

The animal communicator that I have used always starts the session by doing a physical scan of the horse (found a rib that was out of alignment that way when the trainer thought we were dealing with a vague "withers issue".) She comes up with any discomfort the horse is feeling and is usually able to narrow it down to bone or soft tissue. So why don't you begin by asking for just an all-over scan for physical problems?

[JohnDeere]

Cant help on the ? but dont think youre loopy.

I havent had an AC but something like em--reads energy flows or something like that and does adjustments. Yep. Right. My wierd radar was going nuts. What the heck else was I going to do with $200?

However this person was right on the $$ about some things. My horse ws a lot better after being adjusted. Ribs, fetlocks, hocks, all were adjusted and were better after.

If the AC you get has referenses, go for it. Good luck.

[Irish Ei's]

No questions...Just hear her out.

If she starts asking you questions, answer "I don't Know, that's why I called you"

Then pay very close attention to her entire demeanor, facial expressions, how she handles or responds to the horse.

I always ask that mine goes into his stall, where he is most relaxed and naturally happy.

Pay close attention to The Mare's reaction to the reader

Does she sigh and relax, withdraw, pin ears.....

But I might also suggest a Vet Check for "Breeding" ability....

Girly issues

[Guilherme]

Your first question should be very simple.

Make the "animal communicator" stand out of sight of the horse. Then hold your credit card up in front of the horse. Ask the animal communicator to recite the number to you. If they can do it, pay them. If not...well, you have your answer on the validity of "animal communication." ;)

G.

[blackstallion2]

Just ask general questions as mentioned, I've had one reading, via snail mail, years ago. I had a health concern and asked about that, but also got a full reading on health, nutrition deficiencies, how my horse felt about me, my riding, and her other horses and the family dog. It was a lot more than I asked for, and not all that I wanted to hear, but poignant for me at the time. So, the communicator had no verbal clues, etc., wasn't able to quiz me for more info.

Write down the specific question you need the answer too, after all that is what you are paying for, but in order to make the most of the reading, try to think outside the box. I like the "what does my horse want me to know?" question, but I might ask more specific, such as, is my horse happy? is she getting what she needs nutritionally? does she like having me ride her? Then brace yourself for the answers. Good communicators don't sugarcoat! Hope it gives you useful information. Let us know!!

[armandh]

I've got one with the same symptoms

but I'm not loopy enough to to seek that kind of communicator.

so far we have had one come to Jesus problem... Loading

he would load just fine going to the hunt but not for the trip home.

a local amateur with [at that time] an un broken record of getting horses to load, communicated to him [in no uncertain terms] that walking forward in to the trailer would forever after be the thing to do, and repeated loading for about 30 more minutes. cured for good in less than an hour with out the horse breaking a sweat.

so seek a communicator to give you the horse's excuses if you wish.
or find a person to communicate the other way if they are just being willful and stubborn.

[Posting Trot]

Well, I talked to an animal communicator several years ago when I was frustrated with the vets' (multiple) inability to diagnose what was wrong with my mare, who was on again off again NQR.

I can't say that I learned anything really from the ac. It was kind of an interesting experience, in an anthropological way, and as anthropological experiences go, it was relatively inexpensive.

But, although I asked pretty specific questions I got pretty vague answers. And although I was asking questions about the origins of pain or NQR-ness, mostly I got answers about which horses (by color) my horse apparently disliked in the barn. According to the ac, my horse was/is quite the primadonna. No surprise there.

I guess another part of my skepticism is that, even if the ac *is* channeling the horse's thoughts (and I did say *if*), the horse isn't going to say, "Have the vet radiograph my spine in the lower lumbar region," or "the stupid farrier lets my toes grow too long." Nor would the horse say, "You remember 5 years ago, when I spooked at the squirrel? Well I ran up against a fence and I think I torqued something permanently." Completely seriously: I don't think horses have the same narrative structure imposed on their experiences that we do.

So, I do wish you luck, and I don't think you're fruit-loopy. But, based on my own experience, I have my doubts about getting useful information from an AC.

Cheers and good luck.

[jn4jenny]

I don't use the local animal communicator, but a friend does. To be fair to my friend, the animal communicator says a lot of stuff that's right on the money. For example, she once said, "I don't want to hurt your feelings since you own this horse, but he's asking if he can please be ridden by the other rider. He says he likes that rider because that rider doesn't let him get away with things and gives him a lot of structure." That would be a clear reference to the horse's only other rider--the trainer's husband.

If you need to ask questions, ask very open ended questions like "How does she feel about being ridden?" and ask several questions that are not on that line to muddy the waters, like "How does she feel about her pasture mates?"

If you're in the mood to spend $$ on voodoo, I found the local voodoo chiro/herbal/energy reader/DVM to be a fun consultation. I used her after watching her work a near miracle with a friend's barn cat and another friend's horse. Sure enough, she made a big difference for my horse too, despite my complete lack of belief going into it. I mean seriously, how did she put her hand on my horse's atlas and figure out that he'd had "A life-threatening infection in his bloodstream in the past that almost killed him?" He had strangles 4 years ago and fully recovered. My science-minded brain almost exploded. From what I've seen of her, she is not out to exploit anyone. I had a friend who saw what she did for my horse and decided to try some voodoo of her own, and Voodoo Vet insisted that that horse only needed a simple chiro adjustment (it worked). She could have easily screwed my friend for more $$ if she'd been a huckster.

[cloudyandcallie]

Let us know what happens. There was one around here, but I didn't use her because I knew what Cloudy and Callie were thinking.:eek: My horses didn't withhold their opinions of me. The AC here dumped her husband and moved to Montana with another woman, so she didn't communicate that to anyone till just before she left.

I think some people can "lay hands" on people and animals and find out things thru esp. On the phone? no! One AC hired by a woman in NYC to communicate with her retired horse that she had shipped down here did not tell her the things that the BO had and had not done to that horse before the mare died. So that was a waste of money.

[gloriginger]

I guess another part of my skepticism is that, even if the ac *is* channeling the horse's thoughts (and I did say *if*), the horse isn't going to say, "Have the vet radiograph my spine in the lower lumbar region," or "the stupid farrier lets my toes grow too long." Nor would the horse say, "You remember 5 years ago, when I spooked at the squirrel? Well I ran up against a fence and I think I torqued something permanently." Completely seriously: I don't think horses have the same narrative structure imposed on their experiences that we do.


You're right they don't, thats not at all how animals communicate...its through pictures and feelings...

I recently contacted an AC about my dog who was misdiagnosed by a vet. With only telling her my dogs age name and breed she was able to pin point exactly what was wrong with her. Next on to my cat, again age, name - first thing AC said was "she has no teeth." Yup- right on the money- kitty had all her teeth removed ten years ago- she had a disease where her body rejected her teeth and had to have them removed. This was a phone call- I am in NH AC is in Utah.

I did this another time and also was amazed by the results.

I also have a friend who is learning to communicate that contacted my horse. She's never met my mare, I gave her breed, age, name and color. She said that my mare had chronic head aches and I should get her pole checked. Chiro came out and pole was out- bad. Friend also said that my mare loved when I scratched her behind her ears and told her she was a "goooood girlie."

So - I do believe- same friend above uses a woman in Fl for her and her client's horses. One horse, a very expensive show horse was sick for a year. After exhausting all options she finally convinced the owner to contact the AC in Florida. AC said the horse had a fungus in its nose and told them what to do. Vet reluctantly did it and horse was cured.

Buddyroo not sure who you are using but I can recommend a few for you.

best of luck, I hope you figure out what is wrong with your mare.

[FalconRidgeEquineRescue]

I have used one once, in a very extremely aggressive horse case. It was done over the phone though so I was not that optimistic about it. I would rather see a communicator interact here with the horse.

I would ask this person, based on what information you gave about what your horse is doing, to ask the horse what is it trying to tell you? Whats wrong? Does anything hurt? or it simply wanting you to ride more confidently?

[Quartergirl]

Sent you a PM!

[ThoroughbredFancy]

In my experience with an Animal Communicator she told me all I wanted to know without me even asking basically. I just stood there while she talked for about 15 minutes and my horse asked me on or two humorous questions. Then at the end I asked a few things. I remember asking what he wanted to do...if he liked dressage and where he came from originally.

I was planning on taking it with a grain of salt and doing it for some entertainment until she said things about him only *I* would know. She also talked about my old barn and described him and his best friend (markings and all) to a T. It was kind of creepy actually. And just other things that I do like worry about his body but he said "Quit worrying I am fine" and he also talked about things like the saddle fitting we have been doing and other exercises such as the new way I taught him to stop. He even talked about my work schedule. :lol:

And this was the first time any of us have ever met this lady! Certainly gave me the creeps.

She is now a boarder at our barn a few months later and she's a very nice lady.

[SCM1959]

I have never used one either, but I have a good friend who has used two different communicators. She started using the second one when the first one retired.

My friend has had amazing results and startling things told to her by these communicators. Her horse is almost all the time NQR. He is a huge Dutch Warmblood with enormous feet and beautiful legs, so you would think to look at him that he would be relatively healthy and sound. Sadly, not the case. My friend has spent $$$$ trying to keep him sound.

This instance happened several years ago. Once again she was soaking his foot trying to cure an abscess. Around the same time she had purchased a new comfort saddle pad that was supposed to better distribute weight on his back and also a new turnout blanket. She had her regular appointment with the communicator (she did this 2x a month) which was always a telephone appointment since the communicator lived in another state. The communicator has never met the horse. All she was ever told was the name, breed, age, size. During this call, the communicator told my friend that the horse was sick and tired of soaking his right front foot. There was nothing wrong with that foot. He was much more concerned with his other front foot. That one felt bad. Also the communicator said that the horse did not like being covered up and it was bothering his hindquarters. The communicator said the horse said that he felt good everywhere especially his back, except that his left front foot felt sore. AND for a bonus, the horse said he thought that other person was "horse dumb" but the person was okay, just "horse dumb".

Well .... sure enough in about 2 days an abscess popped out on left front. Nothing every happened with the right front. She was soaking the right front because of lameness and a vet exam, etc. There was even a little heat in the right front. Yet no abscess ever appeared and the one in the left foot had never been detected until it popped out.

The new turnout blanket was rubbing a bit on the hindquarters.

And, she had been out of town recently and had to have her father come out to the barn to handwalk the horse. Her father is a very nice man, an engineer, who always timed the handwalking very precisely. He would walk this horse on this teeny short leadrope. It looked ridiculous to see this 17h+ warmblood being walked around on what appeared to be a 4' lead rope. The father knows next to nothing about horses, but the horse has impeccable ground manners and has been known to behave extra well whenever someone inexperienced has to handle him.

Over the years, my friend has had the most amazing conversations with the communicators. I have always wanted to try this, but somehow I never have. My daughter is actually aggravated with me because she always wanted to know what her pony thought of her and he is now deceased. My friend has told me that communicators can communicate with animals that have passed on, but I still have not done anything.

I guess I am still a little skeptical, while at the same time I marvel at what these communicators tell her. She moved her horse to a new barn and wanted the communicator to tell her horse about his new horse friends. She gave the communicators the names of the new horses, their ages, their colors and their breeds. The communicator was absolutely correct about each and every horse. Amazing! She even stressed that this one horse said that he was "a jumping horse". This was the barn owner's horse and if any horse was able to describe himself to a human, we all know that this is what this horse would say. He is a jumping machine and when he gets bored he goes to find things to jump. The water trough in one field is free standing (not against a fence) and this horse will jump back and forth over the trough for fun. We have all watched him on XC trying to convince his rider to jump all the jumps out there instead of staying on their course. There is a place near here that has all kinds of levels of XC jumps and it's a great place to school. You can just see this horse's interest peak as he looks out on his idea of heaven.

So .... I will be very interested in what the communicator says to you. It's rather fascinating to me, although I still have not signed up for myself.

SCM1959

[BuddyRoo]

Thanks for the input guys! And the dose of reality for good measure. :lol: I work in the call center biz and we used to have an account with one of 900 number psychic hotlines. We trained regular Joes off the street to do cold reading. I have plenty of skepticism...because we say or do things without thinking that really do give a lot of insight AND because there are ways to answer questions that would be the "answer" for nearly everyone.

That said, several people I "know" have used this particular person (phone) and have had really good experiences which is what prompted my curiosity.

It's the price of a good dinner and bottle of wine. So if nothing else, it will be considered entertainment. But it would be cool if I could gain some insight. We shall see.

[eventersmom]

I was not a believer in animal commuicators and am still not sure I believe most of them. However....we had one come out for a horse that had a wound that would not heal. She told us the horse had a stomach issue (not a shock as she's an OTTB) and that all her life had been about her value, she feared that her injury would cause her to be less valuable to us and she would be sold. When I said the horse had a forever home with us regardless of her injury, I kid you not, the horse let out the biggest sigh and was totally relaxed. She has been so easy to deal with since the reading and she used to be a spastic turd.

As she was leaving, the animal communicator turned to me and said your little dog is quite the character. He just told me that he knows he's fat and he likes being fat so please quit feeding him diet dog food, it tastes bad. No way she could have seen the dog food as she wasn't in my house at all and his weight had only recently become an issue. She said the dog also told her he was sad that his person had died in front of him and that he cried every night at the time his person died. The dog was my grandfather's and he had a heart attack and died in front of him. And the dog routinely howled each night at the exact time of my grandfather's death. I hadn't told anyone about that. She told me the dog also told her that a man was moving stuff into the house and he liked the man so he thought that was okay. :) My fiance had moved a few things in a couple of weeks before!

It was kind of creepy as the ONLY thing I had told her prior to her visit was that I had a horse with a wound that wouldn't heal. BTW, she also gave me a holistic recipe for a wound paste that healed the horse completely. Not sure I'd do it again but it was very, very interesting.

Long story short...I'm not sure I'd ask any questions at first. Let the animal communicator tell you what she/he is reading. At the end if you have any specific questions, then ask.

[stryder]

I've sent you a PM.

[GilbertsCreeksideAcres]

Don't forget to tell us how it goes!

[Ambrey]

I'm sorry, I think having an animal communicator out would be FUN! Is it fruit loop? Only if you expect miracles. Not saying you might not get a miracle, just don't EXPECT one and you'll be fine ;)

I'd love to have someone talk to my horses!

[Bluey]

A cousin to my mother was a gypsy type card reader and fortune teller, good enough to make a fair living at it as her sole job.
I used to go by her house as a little kid and saw the spiel she had and how she managed people.

When I asked her if there really was something to all this, she said that she could not tell me her secrets, but that at times she surprised even herself.:winkgrin:

I doubt that any of us is a good match to a real animal communicator, not because they are good at communicating with our animals, but with US.:D

[Guilherme]

A good con man always leaves the mark smiling.

G.

P.S. A good con woman does the same thing.

[jn4jenny]

A good con man always leaves the mark smiling.

G.

P.S. A good con woman does the same thing.

And a moron tries to make a point that's already been well taken by the opposing party. Did you not read the subject line or the original post? She's doing this for ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES. In which case your point about con men/women would mean it's going to be excellent entertainment.

[littleum]

The AC I've used in the past was $45/session.

I was very skeptical but desperate for some insight into a very difficult yearling filly.

I told her nothing- just the horse's call name (which is not related to her registered name), and this person didn't know me from Eve. I was REALLY skeptical since the reading would be over the phone so I wanted to make it as difficult as possible. I schedualed it at lunch and got my reading that evening: again, no prep time permitted.

She told me things that gave me goosebumps: the filly told her she hadn't liked being weaned early, about how she had gotten caught in a fence, how her right hind foot twisted and she that she loved how I would share my chips with her. Things that this person really couldn't possibly have known, especially since she was 2000 miles away!

I used her again a year later for another difficult case and the same thing: told me things she couldn't possibly have known. This one was even MORE spot on. I asked her to try to "reason" with the pony and explain to him what we wanted. I didn't tell my trainer I had had the reading done. He called me a few days later and said "I don't know what happened, but it's like he's come to Jesus." Coincidence? Maybe.

I'm not sure if I'm a believer or not, it's not the behavior stuff that gets me- sure, babies get caught in fences and have tantrums- it's the description of the physical issues that make me wonder what's really going on. Very educated guesses or something else? I'm not sure.

I don't run to the AC everytime my ponies have an issue, but for $45, /shrug. Why not? She's a very sweet lady who has been around for 30 years. Parlor tricks or not, I see no harm in it. :)

[Thomas_1]

Now for sure this is most definitely a load of bunkum.

I'd suggest you take the horse out with a great bit smile and say .... now this one has never given me a minute's trouble or bother.

Then see what she says. Be aware you will get a load of chat no matter what...... You need to be warmed up for the finish.

Then after she's finished the only thing you need to ask is

"HOW MUCH?????"

[pines4equines]

I've used animal communicators and the three I've used were pretty much spot on. I did not say anything to them except for the horse's name and age. But one time I did lead for example, I would say, "There is some lameness we're dealing with and the reason why I called you." The reason why I lead is sometimes the responses are kind of juvenile...well, like the horse. "I prefer the tan saddle not the dark brown one." So you might need to lead if you are working through an aggression issue if they don't come out with it at first.

One of the other times I called the communicator was because this one horse was getting so beaten up by this other horse. I asked about that specifically and she told me the horse that was doing the beating up chimed in to say, the other horse was instigating it. (Who knew they'd chime in???) And, while I didn't believe it when I opened my eyes at the farm, she was right. The little stinker was teasing the crap out of the older horse causing him to get aggressive towards the one doing the teasing and the instigator was not as fast a horse as the one biting.

I don't want to sound like a fruit loop but every time I've use an AC, I've come away with some insight.

Also, there is a book by Marta Williams. I forget the name. Her first book. It helps you develop some animal communicating yourself and it's well worth the cost of the book.

Okay back to talking to my horses....:lol:

Please let us know how it goes. I know you've had trouble with this particular horse for a while. I'm curious.

[mkevent]

Personally, I think there are alot of phenomena that we may never be able to scientifically explain-does not mean it does or does not necessarily exist. Because you need to have a certain amount of trust to suspend those traditional beliefs, it allows a certain amount of charlatans to take advantage of these susceptible people-so there are "psychics" preying on the desperate and/or niave people. But how can you explain the rational people who have had these eerily occurances happen to them? I think the bottom line is what you do with the information-if you allow it to run your life then you will probably always be taken advantage of by others. If it's additional input once you've exhausted traditional ways of seeking answers, maybe it's worth a shot. Many some of these ACs have an incredibly refined skills akin to our "gut instincts"-just on an Olympic level so it's hard to fathom. Buddy Roo-keep us posted-I hope you get some answers-and if it's bull$*^!, then take it as an entertaining evening-and send us a funny story about it!!

[knitgirl]

This is really interesting. Does anyone know any good animal communicators in the Chicago area? I think it would be fun and if it's not too expensive, why not?

[BuddyRoo]

Thank you guys for the PM's with your experiences. It's interesting just how many folks have done this sort of thing. Also interesting that some of the same names keep popping up as good readings vs bad.

I happen to have an appt with one that seems to be getting some good reviews.

This is over the phone...thousand miles away. So there won't be any touching or anything. Just the horse's name apparently. But I figured it wouldn't hurt to have follow up questions. When the gal called to set the appt, she said that sometimes what they want to say isn't what we are needing to hear. IE: they have a mind of their own. And some will go on about the butterflies in the back pasture when you're trying to ascertain whether or not the saddle fits. LOL

I just typed that. "out loud." I am totally laughing at myself.

But anyway, should be fun. I'll for sure let you know how it goes. What's the worst that can happen? Worst case, it's all silliness and fun. Best case? There's some shred of helpful stuff. I'm cool with that risk assessment. :lol: Better odds than most things I do. LOL

[Apolloflyin]

I have had the honor of knowing and working for a magician. People that call themselves mind readers are taking you for a ride! I know how it is done and alot of it is guess work, to get to the answers that fool you! In Magic Circles it is frowned upon as unethical !! Check out skepicality.com

What ever you mention will be picked up and used by these people! Try a question that you know has nothing to do with anything and watch them run with it!

I would find specialized trainers who have worked with horses such as yours, before.

Hope this helps!

[equinelaw]

Sometimes what an animal communicator is happens to be a very experienced, intelligent horseman who may help identify a problem the Vets missed.

But horsefolk do not pay $$ for really good expereinced advice. If you tried to market that you'd get few clients. Even people with advanced degrees can fail to have anyone want to pay for their advice.

If you sell it as AC then people line up for advice. Otherwise they just ask strangers on BBs:)

I have known several people who got really good practical advice from AC. They could have gotten the same advice from friends or experts or a Vet, but they chose to pay for an AC instead. The results were still positive.

I seriously doubt any horse is aware of its liver function or fluid in a joint and will share that will a stranger telepathically, but the PAYMENT got the owner to listen and seek out treatment. Free advice does not do that.

If there was a market for expert advice it would not have to be dressed up as vodoo. Its just not there.

[Reynard Ridge]

I asked her to try to "reason" with the pony and explain to him what we wanted. I didn't tell my trainer I had had the reading done. He called me a few days later and said "I don't know what happened, but it's like he's come to Jesus." Coincidence? Maybe.


My favorite animal communicator story: a friend of mine had a very hot mare who she was trying to take up the dressage levels. They had been reasonably successful at first and second level, managed to get through third, but at fourth, the mare would just mentally disembark every time they entered the ring to execute a test.

Friend called the animal communicator. The communicator explained to friend that the mare just couldn't handle the pressure. Friend asked animal communicator to ask the mare to just cool it - she could do the tests at home, why couldn't she just do it in the ring?

Apparently, the mare wailed something along the lines of "I can't! I just can't! It's too haaarrrrddd!"

Apparently, you can talk to them, but you can't necessarily tell them what to do. :lol::lol::lol:

[Ambrey]

Buddy Roo, I'm really looking forward to hearing what happens :)

[ddashaq]

I'm sorry, I think having an animal communicator out would be FUN! Is it fruit loop? Only if you expect miracles. Not saying you might not get a miracle, just don't EXPECT one and you'll be fine ;)

I'd love to have someone talk to my horses!

It is fun! I used one years ago when Shaq was two and took it all with a grain of salt. Mostly, I learned his favorite colors are jewel tones, he did not know what discipline he wanted to do, and he liked how I smelled. She did tell me that his dislike of strangers stemmed from a pasture accident when he was found injured by people that he did not know. The pasture accident was confirmed a few years later, but I don't recall if he was actually found by strangers or not. Anyway, it was not expensive and I did it purely for entertainment. I won't say that AC it is not possible, but I do believe that 90% of the people out there performing as ACs are fakes.

I say go for it, at worst you learn nothing new about your mare.

[Thomas_1]

I have had the honor of knowing and working for a magician. People that call themselves mind readers are taking you for a ride! I know how it is done and alot of it is guess work, to get to the answers that fool you! In Magic Circles it is frowned upon as unethical !! Check out skepicality.com

What ever you mention will be picked up and used by these people! Try a question that you know has nothing to do with anything and watch them run with it!

I would find specialized trainers who have worked with horses such as yours, before.

Hope this helps!

My wife has done a bit of work with Professor Richard Wiseman - an ex magician who lectures on the Psychology of Deception.

I've also been to one of his events and left in total awe at the illusion/dillusion that can be used to achieve total deception. And I'm a total cynic and disbeliever and yet even so can be absolutely tricked to see and think things by a clever magician and illusionist.

If you're susceptible and gullible then you're going to be totally receptive to being deceived.

I live at the site of a battle. At least 16,000 died on my land and including the King of Scotland and all Scotlands noblemen. Google Ghosts and Flodden and see what turns up! A right load of tosh! Stories of folks frequently seeing soldiers crossing the road and odd noises during the night etc etc etc. All crap! Truth is Flodden is in the middle of nowhere - not a place at all - Been virtually the same for centuries. It's all single track lanes that run past my farm and we never even get much more than folks coming here and farm staff out and about doing their business. We always joke that if we see a car twice we know it's lost and going to call by and ask where they are..... and that's the truth. Yet according to the internet there's been a bunch of folks seeing and hearing ghosts! News to me! Not even seen the folks let alone the ghosts!

One site lays the following claim:

“The bloodiest battle ever on British soil. To this very day ghost battles are seen re-enacted at the battle site. Locals hear the sounds of battle, the unmistable sound of clashing swords, so common that it’s almost expected nightly." First sentence is true the rest is total tosh. Locals!?!?? That will be me and mine! Clashing swords... might have been us shovelling poo ??? Not at night though! Here is one of the quietest places on the planet! NO noise polution, NO light polution and NOT a single neighbour even for over a mile!

If Buddyroo wants to give me a call and tell me her horse's name I can have a chat. On second thoughts international calls are quite expensive. Drop me an email with the horse's name on it and I can do similar ;)

[2DogsFarm]

My $.02:
Just like some people can sit down at the piano and play a concerto without ever having a lesson.
And some can take instruction for years and still not progress beyond a competent Chopsticks.
There are more things in Heaven & Earth, Horatio...
2 words: Idiot Savant

I am the last person to believe in MajikCrystalWooWoo - but I have used 2 AC with results that I cannot attribute to cold reading. No Way. No How.
Both were over the phone & quite a distance from the horses.
I can post examples if anyone is interested, but my experiences were a lot like those who said they got relevant info w/o asking anything specific.
I basically listened at each session and came away believing some people have a talent I don't to that degree.
Think of Gut Feeling magnified to the Nth degree.

WTH - if you learn something the money is well spent, if not the entertainment value redeems your cash layout.

[Guilherme]

I'm not a casino kind of guy, but the few times I've been out in Reno and went to a Big Show I'v always enjoyed the presterdigitator a whole lot more than the bare breasted women doing lots of athletic dancing. I guess age is finally catching up to me!!!!! :lol:

A really good one is a joy to watch. The Art of Illusion is really cool.

But it is illusion.

Done for entertainment, no problem. Done as a method of relating a fact, fraud.

I disagree that no harm can come of it. I've seen people delay essential changes in husbandry, riding style, tack fit, etc. because they were decieved by an "animal communicator." It was bad for the horse.

Again, if done solely for entertainment it's not a problem. If there is the slightest hint of reliance then the horse will likely suffer.

G.

[sdlbredfan]

I used an AC once and was very pleased. For those of you who think this is just a crock of manure, take time to read Riding Between The Worlds, by Linda Kohanov. That book really opened my eyes to how spiritually attuned horses are. (That has been corroborated by those who use equines as assistants in psychotherapy, go read www.eagala.org for example.) Knowing that horses are continually one hoof in the real world and one hoof, so to speak, in the spirit world makes it abundantly clear to me that a human who is also spiritually attuned certainly can converse with these animals, even at a distance.

[Ajierene]

I am a skeptic. I have known of two animal communicator sessions and neither one left me in awe at all.

The one girl asked about her horse that was hot and rushing fences. Oh, since she did not make it at the track, she felt that she did not live up to what she was supposed to, blah blah blah, hence rushing fences. Funny, when she was a lesson horse and my friend rode her, she was a perfect hunter horse...hmm...no rushing....maybe it is all the high energy feed and no turn out coupled with bad riding...

The other was astounded that the mare apparently asked 'if she was going to be a mama', because they were thinking about breeding her. Well, that is an open ended question - they may have just bred her, they may be planning to breed her, they may be thinking about breeding her, it can be interpreted as her wanting to be bred as well. Definitely one of those 'fake psychic' statements.

There may be real animal communicators out there, but I haven't met one.

[katarine]

My favorite that I observed on a BB was a girl, a regular poster there, who was desperate to find one of her dogs. The OP couldn't find her anywhere, and assumed had escaped the house and yard, and was wandering the dark streets of a major US city. Panicked, she turned to an AC she 'knew' on that BB. The AC fed her all manner of images along the lines of she's trotting around under streetlights, having fun, not scared, etc but DEFINITELY, most assuredly, telling her the dog was loose in the city.

A few panicky hours pass, and the OP- who's checked in many times for updates from the AC...(circumstances kept her close to home, she couldn't be out hunting her dog), happily reported the dang dog was holed up asleep, in her crate, where she'd been the entire time.

Somehow, someway, that bunch on that BB still believe in that same AC. Go figure.

[bascher]

I don't use the local animal communicator, but a friend does. To be fair to my friend, the animal communicator says a lot of stuff that's right on the money. For example, she once said, "I don't want to hurt your feelings since you own this horse, but he's asking if he can please be ridden by the other rider. He says he likes that rider because that rider doesn't let him get away with things and gives him a lot of structure." That would be a clear reference to the horse's only other rider--the trainer's husband.

If you need to ask questions, ask very open ended questions like "How does she feel about being ridden?" and ask several questions that are not on that line to muddy the waters, like "How does she feel about her pasture mates?"

If you're in the mood to spend $$ on voodoo, I found the local voodoo chiro/herbal/energy reader/DVM to be a fun consultation. I used her after watching her work a near miracle with a friend's barn cat and another friend's horse. Sure enough, she made a big difference for my horse too, despite my complete lack of belief going into it. I mean seriously, how did she put her hand on my horse's atlas and figure out that he'd had "A life-threatening infection in his bloodstream in the past that almost killed him?" He had strangles 4 years ago and fully recovered. My science-minded brain almost exploded. From what I've seen of her, she is not out to exploit anyone. I had a friend who saw what she did for my horse and decided to try some voodoo of her own, and Voodoo Vet insisted that that horse only needed a simple chiro adjustment (it worked). She could have easily screwed my friend for more $$ if she'd been a huckster.

I am very much a science minded person as well, so I think it is very interesting that you had this experience and even your science minded brain couldn't figure it out! I always think that there's always an explanation of some sort, but hearing that you think like I do and still didn't have an explanation makes me really have to stop and think! :)

Buddyroo - please let us know how it goes!

[Nightlace]

Years & years ago, we had a traveling Animal Communicator come & do a reading on each horse in the barn. That was about 20 horses. She was spot on, on each horse. And she gave information that was specifically relevant to the horse she was talking to--information that she had no way of knowing & information that was sometimes only known to the horse's owner. She was very accurate in reflecting each horse's personality. She identified physical, emotional, & mental issues that were particular to each horse.

The first horse (Hope) she talked with, was a dressage horse with off & on lameness issues. She said he had slipped & hyperextended his left hind leg, causing his hip to be sore. And he didn't like those aluminum shoes. She was very specific on the muscles that were sore, and she recommended acupuncture (which, incidentally, was successful). Hope then asked what happened to the small dark pony. His owner was amazed. She was the only one who knew about the small dark pony, who was the only horse that Hope liked. Unfortunately, the small dark pony had died.

She then talked to another very beautiful dressage horse. She described an accident at the track, in which the horse had flipped & hit his head. It had left him emotionally insecure & probably impacted his ability to learn. He said he got confused when he was asked to do to many things. A couple of weeks before, the trainer & I had discussed his training routine with this horse. He said he only worked on one thing per session as the horse would become too rattled to learn if he tried to teach too much at a time. So he would focus on lateral movements (maybe even one lateral movement) or trot or canter or whatever in any given riding session. There was NO WAY the Animal Communicator could have known this; the trainer was a huge skeptic.

Another horse told her that he didn't know who his owner was; that he didn't have a person; that he wasn't loved. His owner was moved to tears. She had sent him to several sales barns & rarely visited him. As a result of this session, she took him home, started showing him, fox hunted him, & became the loving owner he wanted.

Another horse told her that his owner loved him & would never sell him. He said they were going north to a show tomorrow. He wanted to do really well as she knew she wanted to win a blue ribbon. His owner had been very excited about this show, telling everyone about it. And, yes, it was up north. And she was totally dedicated to this horse & would never sell him.

My mare really made her laugh. (I'm pretty sure the Animal Communicator edited out some things Lacey told her.) She told me that Lacey left her grain in her bucket because she wanted something to nibble on. She was afraid of being out of her stall because some other horse would come in & steal it. I'm sure no one but me knew about Lacey leaving her grain, but it was causing me some worry.

Then Lacey told her how beautiful she was (totally in character) & how talented she was. Lacey wasn't sure if she wanted to be a dressage horse or a jumper, but she knew she would be very good at whatever she decided to specialize in. Then she said she preferred to be ridden by the little person (the trainer) rather than me. And she wanted me to know that when she didn't do what I wanted it wasn't because she didn't know how; it was just because she didn't want to do it.

She was right on with every other horse in the barn. Each reading was very specific. She just talked to the horse & told you what the horse told her. At the end, we could ask questions for her to discuss with the horse. Her answers were very helpful.

Since then, I've known other Animal Communicators. I think some Animal Communicators are more skilled or talented than others. From what I understand, the Animal Communicators use images to communicate with animals. I think all of us can develop this ability, to some extent, with practice. Obviously, some are more naturally gifted than others.

Please let us know how your session goes. I hope you learn a lot & will find the information helpful in making progress with your mare. Or, at worst, that you have an entertaining time. ;)

[bridgetah1]

I keep an open mind about these things, having had several inexplicable experiences in my life. However, this seems to be a training issue.

IMO, you'd be better off taking the horse to a good trainer who can work with the both of you. A good trainer can "read" the horse as well as a good psychic and give you practical training advice so that you can work with the horse.

I've seen a couple of NH trainers - Charles Wilhelm and Jerry Tindell - work wonders w/troubled horses (and their owners).

[Bluey]

There is an open offer of a million to anyone that can prove anything "supernatural" under very strict controls.
In the definition of supernatural is included something that no one could have possibly known any other way.

There is no one yet that has claimed that money, no matter how much they may insist that they can know the unknowable.:winkgrin:

That ought to tell us something.:)

[Candle]

Would a couple of the people who have had good experiences with phone AC's shoot me a PM with the name & price? I've got some leftover Christmas money to burn and don't have time for other entertainment forms at the moment :D Plus, I miss my horse and this is fun.

[Come Shine]

I loved the entertainment value ONLY AC who did the 'reading' here on COTH a while ago. Please do it again. :)

[pintopiaffe]

Interesting the polar opposites of replies.

I'm somewhere in the middle. I know a good reader of people can manipulate much... buuuut....

I also have a very dear friend who seems to be in tune with critters. Sometimes MY critters 1400 miles away. Of course, she does not charge me for it, and actually, can't *really* control it. It's more like she just gets a feeling. It's quite right almost all the time. (Can't think of one instance where it's been wrong.)

I also think that we have a huge brain that we use less than 10% of. Some people perhaps tap in to more of their brain, and are able to discern more than others.

Phone stuff? I dunno. In person stuff? I think that there are genuinely people who can process more input than I can, than most of us can, and perhaps they don't even know WHAT that input is. (is it visual? touch? they can 'tell' somehow a part of an animal that is more tense/hurting etc. ??)

BR, I'll be interested to hear what you think.

I've had two recent experiences which boggle me completely, just a 'knowing' or an intuition about something with animals that was right on. Doesn't make me think I'm gifted, (not THAT way any way, more in the Special Ed way :lol: ) but does make me think that somehow a part of me beyond the normal reasoning part--be it my heart or my soul or whatever, *knew.* <shrugs>

'Nuff on that, now I must go look at majikal gypsy vanner stallyuns so I can tap into my inner self. :winkgrin:

[Twiliath]

Come Shine,

Anita Curtis, $30 for 15 min. Her website is www.anitacurtis.com. I've used her several times.

I've also done it myself for other people. Email works best for me.

[King's Ransom]

I have been traveling for the past week and just got home and had a few minutes to check in here on CoTH -- and this was the first thread I read!

BR -- Good luck! It sounds like you are going into this with an open mind and not fruitloopy at all!

On the other hand, having read all of the postings here, I had a general impression ... which is more about horse people than animal communicators. We all seem to be "fairly" grounded and pragmatic people. Highly skeptical of this "voodoo" stuff. And yet, perhaps because we do KNOW our horses, we know there is "something" about them that is unexplained. And so, we don't go hopping down the voodoo bunny trail, but we don't burn it down, either. We give it a listen, maybe a laugh, and sometimes even a raised eyebrow. I think that's cool.

Maybe it's because I can "read" King's thoughts from across the field ... I know when he's cranky by the way he's standing. I know when he's feeling good and when he's happy to see me -- and when he's a bit miffed at me ... and when he couldn't care less. And like today, when a "strange man" (the roofing contractor) showed up with a "dangerous dog" (a doberman), I suddenly "felt" something behind me. I turned around to see King standing at the fence, glaring at the (unruly) Dobie. Doberman's hackles raise, she takes a few steps toward King and starts to growl. King just glares. I told the roofer that he should corral his dog because that horse would kill him. Roofer took one look at the (28-year-old) horse and sent the Dobie back into the truck. Yep, he says, I believe he would.

Now, I don't know if King would have actually killed the dog, but I do know that King wanted everyone to THINK that he would. He wanted that dog back in the truck. And it did not take an AC to "read" that!!! :lol:

[Twiliath]

Examples:

1) I taught my son how to communicate with animals before I knew how. A trainer I knew had him talk to a horse who was diving left after jumps. The trainer walked away. My son is no horseman. The horse was in his stall. I suggested questions to ask as my son had no clue. He kept getting that the horse's teeth on the lower right hurt.

At the time, neither the trainer nor I knew what to make of this. For some reason it didn't make sense to either of us. Nothing was done.

One year later, almost to the day, I came into the barn to find that the horse in question had just had a root canal on - you guessed it - the lower right jaw!

The trainer eyes popped out when I mentioned what my son had said the year before. She had him talk to the horse again, while standing in the aisle, and he got the full story of the horse's accident a few years before. This was with no prompting by the trainer who had left the immediate area. The info my son got was absolutely right on. And neither he nor I had any idea was the story was beforehand.

2) I recently talked with the cat of a friend of mine. I had told her previously that I wouldn't talk to her dogs because I already knew them. But I didn't know her cat and she said the cat had litter box issues; he'd never used the litter box in the five years she'd had him. She'd already tried different litters and different locations and had him checked out by the vet for infections. She'd had him since he was a kitten.

The first time I tried to talk to him, he wouldn't talk, but I got that he didn't feel well. My chest became tight and I had a feeling and taste of bile in my throat. I emailed my friend this. She told me later, that he was, indeed, sick that day and had to go to the vet.

A few days later I tried again. I started with asking him if he would help me learn to hear/listen to the animals. After getting a feeling of agreement but a picture/impression of reluctance, I went ahead. Knowing that different litters and locations were not really the solutions and not wanting to just jump in with "why aren't you using the litter box?" (which is rather confrontational), I told him that his owner loved him, would never give him up, was concerned about him, was worried there was something wrong that she couldn't figure out, and wanted him to be happy and feel loved.

Right away I got an impression that he was literally "pissed off" because he was in love with someone else. I didn't ask him to give up the other person or let her go or anything like that. I asked him if he could open his heart and let his owner in and love her too. I got a reaction like "I could have had a V-8!" Sort of like he'd never thought of that option.

His owner reported then and has continued to report since (3-4 weeks) that he is now using the litter box perfectly (no accidents) and that his personality has changed a bit - he's more loving.

Say what you will.

AC is a bit like watching several movies at once with no context and they're all flying by at super speed. Then you have to try to pick out one or two images from the hundreds flying by and try to put some kind of context or interpretation on them. Then convey this to the owner. I have my "contextual" lenses on and so does the owner. There are some things I don't report right away because I don't know what to make of it; it's too unusual with no context that I don't know what to do with the info. It's a lot like forensics. You have to get the pieces first and then try to put them together.

I once "read" or "talked" to a couple of dogs in the SW. One had a very different feel to him. The best I could say was that he never seemed to go out of the house, but the other one did. This didn't make sense to me. Only later did I find out the the one "stuck in the house" was dead. It's really hard to tell.

Lost animals. Not all AC can deal with lost animals. That's a specialty line.

If it doesn't work for you and you don't "believe," then don't try it. If you want to try it, don't give out any info, only what you absolutely must. Ask both kinds of questions - ones you already know the answer to and ones you don't. Then see.

[littleum]

I've been asked by a few folks who I used. She's actually a Miniature horse person and is well known, long-standing member of our little community (no pun intended!)

Her name is Bonnie Fogg (just google for her website, comes right up) Sweetest lady you'll ever meet, VERY soft spoken, and if nothing else, really does care about the animals and wants to help.

[veebug22]

I was never really a believer, but I've known a couple people within the last few years that used ACs and had phenomenal feedback. For instance, I was riding one woman's two ponies, and she had a regular appt with an AC about them. One day she called me up and said, "I have to tell you what Michael had to talk about today...." Michael was one of the ponies. She then recanted to me in detail what had happened during our ride two days previous, and I hadn't even had a chance to discuss the ride with her yet! There were a couple things that were very specific, and somehow the AC knew them, even though no one else was on the property during that particular ride! I was totally amazed. It was a breakthrough ride and she already knew all about it... and not through me or anyone else.

[BuddyRoo]

Okay. Did the reading. She was really spot on w/ some stuff. Some other things were fairly vague but I kind of felt like I was purposefully trying not to give information or ask leading questions...maybe I wasn't helping things much. But I just wanted to hear what THEY had to say.

All I gave initially was the horse's name. Will note where I was asked a question or gave an answer.


FANCY:
First thing she said was--GI pain. Check for colon ulcers. not the stomach ulcers that we were looking for but colon ulcers. (it's true we were looking for stomach ulcers)

Said that she her stools are dry. (they are) Needs more water. (I agree...I added salt to their feed just this week)

Said her RF foot has a bruise between 2:30-3 o'clock. She does. I trimmed her last week and she does indeed have a bruise in that location.

Said that she might have a cracked tooth on the lower right. Dentist is coming next month due to some dentition concerns.

I asked "What's with the head stuff?" (that's it)

She said that her bit is still hitting the roof of her mouth (I think it is...she has a shallow palate), but that mostly, SHE FLIPS HER HEAD AROUND (i didn't say what she did with her head) when she's playful or trying to be dominant.

Says too much testosterone in her system.

Said she likes doing the varied stuff that we do. She's not bored. Says she's very athletic and can do just about anything. Mentioned dressage, jumping.

She said that Fancy told her that I'm not mean to her and she's generally happy but this GI thing is bothering her.

CHEY:

First thing mentioned was that Cheyenne is concerned about her eye. She is afraid she's going to go blind. She knows there's something wrong with it that we treat, but is just really worried that she's going to go blind. (this is accurate..even got the correct eye...have treated for sarcoid and it's back)

Said that the reason she feels like she's tracking a little crooked and not maintaining her canter is because her left hip is out of alignment. (I thin k this is true and is due to compensating for her stifle injury. She did the same thing last time and a quick chiro adjustment solved the problem)

I asked what she thought of the barn they're at. She said it's okay. But that they're not on time with her meals. She said she likes the hay a lot, but she doesn't get very much.

One thing that did NOT fit was that she said she liked being close to where I live. Well, it's not close at all. Toni then said that she'd like to live closer.

I asked about Chey's feet. She said that they're better. Toni said that Chey has had problems in the past with people trying to make Chey's feet textbook but that her confo doesn't fit that model. But she's doing a lot better in the last couple of years. (true...and you could probably make that argument for any horse...but it is true...she's really wonky confo wise and her feet require some special accomodations.)

I asked what the nickering was about. (re: my buddyroo story..after he died, she started nickering to me like he had--prior to his death she had never done it)...I was told it's that she's letting me know something is wrong. But I don't really think that fits.

Mentioned that Chey is good on the trails, good at penning, likes the jumping, enjoys pretty much a little of everything. (she is)

GIAIS: (my dog)

First thing was that something on his chest/ribcage was bothering him. On the right side. (well, he had a new tumor on the right side of his rib cage aspirated last week)

She asked what food he was on. I told her SD LB Light. She said that his weight issue is due to thyroid problem. When I said that I had that tested rather recently and it was fine, she laughed.

Recommended some kelp liquid drops. Said, "He's nearly 100 lbs right?" Well, I had not told her his breed...so she nailed that one.

I asked what he thought about the current living arrangement.

She said that he felt like he couldn't relax in his own home. She asked if I had a boyfriend/SO living there or something. She couldn't put her finger on it. I told her that I had a roommate. She asked if the roommate liked the dog. I said that she did. She said she still wasn't putting a finger on it and he was holding back because he didn't want to make me mad. She talked about how roommates need to be respectful of each other and such. I mentioned roommate has a dog. She said that could be it. But all she was really seeing from him was that he felt like he couldn't relax in his own home because someone/something was there bugging him.

Last, she asked if I was planning to move soon. I said no. She said that I would be.

And that was that.

I took notes during the call but also recorded it for my own review. She said that I could call back in a few weeks and do a recheck (at no charge)


I think the gal is the real deal--at least I believe that SHE believes in what she's doing and isn't trying to scam anyone.

There were a few things that I really thought were so vague you could apply it to ANY horse. But...the things she mentioned right off the bat w/ each horse seemed to be spot on.

Obviously, this is a summary. But I didn't do much talking or asking.


My gut reaction was that she can see what the horse WANTS to share, but that when you ask more direct questions, it gets a little foggy. Which would make sense if your primary talent is seeing what it is the horse wants to tell you.

The thing with Fancy and her possible ulcer thing as well as the hoof was spot on. With Chey, the eye thing really blew my mind. Because seriously...that's not a common issue. The thing w/ Giais and his ribcage and with being annoyed by something/someone at home? Well, roomie and I have been talking about that.

Now...let's be pragmatic and say that maybe she reads HC or COTH and knew these things.

Okay. But I have not posted anywhere about Fancy's hoof, or about the fact that Chey's sarcoid is back, or that since I started riding her again this last week that she is moving kind of crooked and feels unbalanced, or that roommate's dog pounces on my dog constantly.

The rest, probably have.

So I dunno. But I'm inclined to look into the colon ulcer thing, chiro for Chey, dentist is already scheduled and all that good stuff.

Grain of salt and all that. But I generally feel like it was a worthwhile convo.

[cloudyandcallie]

Years & years ago, we had a traveling Animal Communicator come & do a reading on each horse in the barn. That was about 20 horses. She was spot on, on each horse. And she gave information that was specifically relevant to the horse she was talking to--information that she had no way of knowing & information that was sometimes only known to the horse's owner. She was very accurate in reflecting each horse's personality. She identified physical, emotional, & mental issues that were particular to each horse.

The first horse (Hope) she talked with, was a dressage horse with off & on lameness issues. She said he had slipped & hyperextended his left hind leg, causing his hip to be sore. And he didn't like those aluminum shoes. She was very specific on the muscles that were sore, and she recommended acupuncture (which, incidentally, was successful). Hope then asked what happened to the small dark pony. His owner was amazed. She was the only one who knew about the small dark pony, who was the only horse that Hope liked. Unfortunately, the small dark pony had died.

She then talked to another very beautiful dressage horse. She described an accident at the track, in which the horse had flipped & hit his head. It had left him emotionally insecure & probably impacted his ability to learn. He said he got confused when he was asked to do to many things. A couple of weeks before, the trainer & I had discussed his training routine with this horse. He said he only worked on one thing per session as the horse would become too rattled to learn if he tried to teach too much at a time. So he would focus on lateral movements (maybe even one lateral movement) or trot or canter or whatever in any given riding session. There was NO WAY the Animal Communicator could have known this; the trainer was a huge skeptic.

Another horse told her that he didn't know who his owner was; that he didn't have a person; that he wasn't loved. His owner was moved to tears. She had sent him to several sales barns & rarely visited him. As a result of this session, she took him home, started showing him, fox hunted him, & became the loving owner he wanted.

Another horse told her that his owner loved him & would never sell him. He said they were going north to a show tomorrow. He wanted to do really well as she knew she wanted to win a blue ribbon. His owner had been very excited about this show, telling everyone about it. And, yes, it was up north. And she was totally dedicated to this horse & would never sell him.
:cool: Send that one to Savannah.

My mare really made her laugh. (I'm pretty sure the Animal Communicator edited out some things Lacey told her.) She told me that Lacey left her grain in her bucket because she wanted something to nibble on. She was afraid of being out of her stall because some other horse would come in & steal it. I'm sure no one but me knew about Lacey leaving her grain, but it was causing me some worry.

Then Lacey told her how beautiful she was (totally in character) & how talented she was. Lacey wasn't sure if she wanted to be a dressage horse or a jumper, but she knew she would be very good at whatever she decided to specialize in. Then she said she preferred to be ridden by the little person (the trainer) rather than me. And she wanted me to know that when she didn't do what I wanted it wasn't because she didn't know how; it was just because she didn't want to do it.

She was right on with every other horse in the barn. Each reading was very specific. She just talked to the horse & told you what the horse told her. At the end, we could ask questions for her to discuss with the horse. Her answers were very helpful.

Since then, I've known other Animal Communicators. I think some Animal Communicators are more skilled or talented than others. From what I understand, the Animal Communicators use images to communicate with animals. I think all of us can develop this ability, to some extent, with practice. Obviously, some are more naturally gifted than others.

Please let us know how your session goes. I hope you learn a lot & will find the information helpful in making progress with your mare. Or, at worst, that you have an entertaining time. ;)

:lol:Send that AC to Savannah.

[CJBean]

So this was all over the telephone? Sorry I am not familiar with animal communicators, I always thought they came in person.

Sounds to me like she knew what she was talking about, and it kind of creeps me out a bit, weird, but cool too!

[BuddyRoo]

Yep...on the phone about 1500 miles away.

[blackstallion2]

Well, if it helps it was worth it.
Can you pm me her name and contact info? I might need it for future reference! :winkgrin:
Thanks for sharing your experience.

[Ambrey]

BuddyRoo, can you pm me the info for the person you used? THanks :)

[pony grandma]

I had a horse that we could never figure out. I'd had him since he was a long yearling. He dumped me on a regular basis for no apparent reasons. An acquaintance scheduled a reading on him for me, all she wanted to know was his color and his name. She sent me a written page of her reading with him. She said that he wanted a little girl in his life, he wanted to be special to someone. I sold him to a set of grandparents for their bipolar granddaughter and he loaded in that trailer with glee, went away on his new adventure and was forever the perfect gentleman and nuturing friend to this child.

Like for the OP, she wrote so many spot on things that she could not have known about this horse. Give us an update when you explore the answers!

[appychik]

BuddyRoo -

Could you also PM me the contact information? What was the cost (didn't read all the way back, incase you had already posted). Very interesting!

[LaurieB]

BuddyRoo could you please PM me the info too? Thanks. :)

[Chardavej]

Too cool Buddyroo! I have often thought about doing something like that, if just for the entertainment, and see where it goes. I would like to know what my dogs are feeling and Dusty and Nater boy. I really want to know what Nater thinks, he is always off by himself observing, he has no pasture buddy, is about middle of the herd. He is always studying you, watching you. You just wonder what's going on behind those huge eyes. Here is a shot of him just watching me:

http://s36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/chardavej/?action=view&current=Blueplayswiththebigboys154.jpg

http://s36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/chardavej/Blue%20playing/?action=view&current=Blueplayswiththebigboys097-1.jpg

http://s36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/chardavej/Blue%20playing/?action=view&current=Blueplayswiththebigboys103.jpg

Would also like to know what I need to do for him to gain weight! He is the only horse in the pasture that isn't overweight and he has ribs showing. Now his ribs feel like there is an inch of fat on top of them, he has a rain gutter down his back, cresty neck, fat bulge over the tail head and cellulite on his chest and butt, but almost all his ribs show! (the picture above is when we first got him, he is much bigger now) he is rotated wormed, power pack wormed, teeth floated twice, vet checked over great twice (told us to "back off, it's just how he's built, he's getting too fat") we have tried all kinds of feeds (senior, ultium, beet pulp, probiotics, wheat germ, rice bran, corn oil, flax seed, etc, etc) and nothing, he's ribby living here at what the boarders call "Charlotte's Fat Farm" (lovingly I hope) I would like to ask him what is he thinking all the time and what do I need to feed him, LOL!

So this was all done through a phone call? I would feel better I think to have them standing with the animal, but as weird as it is I guess it doesn't matter?

[Twiliath]

To try to explain about an AC needing to "be there" vs. over the phone, etc.

Try to wrap your mind around the concept of there being no time and no space.

If there is no time, it doesn't matter when you do it. Past, present, and future are all one.

If there is no space, it doesn't matter where you are and where the animal is. We're all "here" together.

I prefer to work via email. I have fewer distractions then and I can more fully process the overwhelming information that I'm getting.

It's a lot like having rabbit ears on a TV with somewhat bad reception and several hundred channels all coming in at once. Some things are more clear than others. A single image can be interpreted many ways.

Sometimes I get pictures, sometimes sounds or words, sometimes, emotions, tastes, or smells. It's all rather hard to explain.

And some of us are, as in other skilled arenas, better talented or skilled than others. Not all of us are Olympic level! ;-)

[BearRock]

If you could PM me the info too I'd really appreciate it!
:D

[RegentLion]

Buddyroo, I'd like the info too.

Do you think she could communicate with horses I no longer have? Or a dog that was lost and never found?

[Rallycairn]

Buddyroo,

I'd like the info too, if you don't mind ... you know, just in case ;)!

Thanks!~

[Ready2Ride]

me too:yes: pretty please


Thanks

[Cita]

Hmmm... I'm definitely a skeptic, too, but I have a dog that's been driving me nuts with behavioral issues and I'm feeling kind of desperate... how much was this AC, if you wouldn't mind me asking? I'm thinking it might be worth a shot...

[JoZ]

Is there a reason not to post the information right in this thread? If we can recommend products by brand name, why couldn't we recommend a service in the same way?

If I'm wrong, um, could you please PM me the info? ;)

[anna's girl]

I too would like to know. My horse has an interesting past that I would like to know about.

[TheOrangeOne]

I have a friend who is an AC- I've really liked what I have heard from her. The first time she told me she was going into it, I said "oh very funny, why not talk to lego?" "Well, I did try but all I got was something about his LH in the fetlock area". Unbeknownst to her, he had surgery on that joint. So, of course I ask her to talk to him. She's saying some things that are spot on, personality wise, and then some that I just thought eh, you can guess. One was that he wants to celebrate the nice cool weather by going out on more trail rides. "Well ask him what happened last time". "See I'm new at this because all I get is a picture of someone's hand". Now, you can't say anyone would guess that for any reason. The last time we had gone out on trails, he had kicked at a horse fly and nailed the person behind me in the wrist.

Edit: If you all would like to contact her, PM me- I'd rather not put her email out there for spammers.

[eqeq]

I think I've used her before - not a common spelling of the first name..

[saje]

I'm on the fence about all of this, but one thing did jump out at me re: her reading of your dog.

She "nailed" that he was close to 100 lbs, but you'd just told her that he (she? sorry, it's early...) was eating SD Large Breed Light.

[pintopiaffe]

cool.

:cool:

I'm usually quite a cynic, but also quite Irish... therefore I *want* to believe. :lol:

[SarahandSam]

I would also love her name if possible to PM or post it... I am always a little skeptical, but enjoy trying things like that out and am willing to be surprised. (:

[pines4equines]

Can you just post the name and phone number? I'm sure she'd appreciate the advertising and then you'd not have to PM everyone. Thank you!

[Sdhaurmsmom]

Add me to the list of people who would like the AC's contact info and what she charges. Via PM? Or here on this thread...
Thanks!:yes:

[Ambrey]

I'm on the fence about all of this, but one thing did jump out at me re: her reading of your dog.

She "nailed" that he was close to 100 lbs, but you'd just told her that he (she? sorry, it's early...) was eating SD Large Breed Light.

There are all kinds of ways to be a skeptic. Or you can just look at it as something fun to do and not sweat it so much ;) You know, if even one of the ideas pans out, it was worth it!

She'd have to have read boards, linked the name with the user, searched all of the old posts, and also used information from the conversation to try to gather leads. Maybe that in itself would be worth some money, LOL!

[BuddyRoo]

I totally understand the skepticism. I think it's smart to analyze things and try to understand the how, why, etc.

Given the things that were said right off the bat with only the name of each pet, I think that it was pretty remarkable. I didn't post all of the details...was trying post the update quickly. But as I mentioned, there were several things that were brought up that I've not posted on any board nor had I discussed w/ anyone.

Some things...still haven't. ;)

The other thing that was nice was that she had recommendations for fixing some things...what was kind of cool is that in several cases, what she was recommending was stuff that was already on my list to try.

I think it's kind of nice to be open to the possibility that there are things we just don't understand. Why not use all the tools at your disposal to gather information? For me, this was an information gathering experience....I went into it with the idea that it was for entertainment...but with an open mind that I might learn something. I feel like I did.

The gal I used is Toni Trimble. You can find her here: http://www.angelhandranch.com/

I would use her again for sure. And several people I know have used her and had pretty good readings. You can fill out an order form on her website and she'll call and set up an appt.

If you decide to go for it, PM me and I'll give you my real name as she'll likely ask you how you heard about her. Also be sure to tell me how it goes!

I'm a skeptic about a lot of things--especially things people say they can do.

I'm skeptical of a lot of trainers. I'm skeptical of some vets. I'm skeptical of some farriers. I'm skeptical of some holistic treatments. I'm skeptical of my coworker who says he checked the server on Friday before he left so I check it myself. Doesn't mean all trainers are crap or all vets are crap or that that some holistic things don't work. Just means that it's best to go in with eyes wide open, take what you can from the situation and leave armed with something. Even a bad experience teaches me something. :lol:

[webmistress32]

we had an AC come to our barn for family fun day in summer 2006. she read all of my horses and got some great info. they were short, it was just a "fun" thing maybe 15 minutes for each horse tops.

the first thing she said about my lovely pony mare was "'my tummy hurts'; I can feel her pain in her gut like a fire..." after that we treated her for ulcers but two years later she died of cancer ... squamous cell carcinoma in her stomach and intestine (it was totally untreatable and probably had been festering for years.) without the ulcer treatments we'd probably have lost her much earlier.

we talked to Lucy again after her passing and the AC said some unbelievable things. it was very soothing to hear what Lucy thought of her life with us and how happy she was with Grace (my daughter) for the two years they were together.

anyway I don't buy it 100% but sometimes ... you gotta think outside the box ...

[DeeThbd]

Just a quick post for the person earlier in the thread who has a horse who keeps losing weight despite different feed, and has the cellulite and fat pads - it might be worth seeing if insulin resistance might be in play, as some of these symptoms sound similar to what my little mare experienced when she was having problems....I may be way off base, but it might be something youcan rule out anyhow.
All the best!
Dee

[saje]

There are all kinds of ways to be a skeptic. Or you can just look at it as something fun to do and not sweat it so much ;) You know, if even one of the ideas pans out, it was worth it!

She'd have to have read boards, linked the name with the user, searched all of the old posts, and also used information from the conversation to try to gather leads. Maybe that in itself would be worth some money, LOL!



Does this minor observation ~really~ sound like I'm "sweating it so much"? :rolleyes:


Originally Posted by saje
I'm on the fence about all of this, but one thing did jump out at me re: her reading of your dog.

She "nailed" that he was close to 100 lbs, but you'd just told her that he (she? sorry, it's early...) was eating SD Large Breed Light.



If the OP is pleased with the results, then that's all that matters.