Who's your fancy moving OTTB by?

[GettingBack]

I'm wondering what the bloodlines are of 10 movers that came off the track :) Of course, this is a very unscientific question, but I'm curious!!

[War Admiral]

My 8's are everybody else's 10s, and HRH Avery was a solid 8 in my book. He was by True Level, a no-account son of Tom Rolfe out of a Turn-To mare. ;) His damsire was Mr. Beano, an equally no-account son of Australian stakes winner Bernborough. His dam line was *thoroughly* unremarkable from the racing perspective, albeit he did have an ungodly bunch of European stakes winners 5 generations back, most notably the great Oirish Harse The Tetrarch, Sir Gallahad, Wise Counselor (edit oops he's USA), and Mont D'or.

What makes for great race horses does not necessarily make for great movers!

[Foxtrot's]

I'm pushing Final Pool!!

[BeastieSlave]

My two young, very nice moving, and recently off the track TB's are by Brushed On and Regal Classic. The Brushed On gelding is probably the nicest moving TB on the farm (as far as hunter movement). Even my trainer said that he's second only to my very fancy HAN baby. Everyone who has seen him notices his 'quality'.

[mew]

My boy is out of Regal Classic here he is http://www.pedigreequery.com/regal+award

edited to add beastie can you tell me about your regal classic baby?

[CaliforniaSyndrome]

Wills Way.

Anyone have any info or photos of my babies daddy?

[tikidoc]

I adopted an OTTB in November by Wekiva Springs (who is by Runaway Groom), who is a really lovely mover. He is still in the process of recovering from slaughter pen starvation, so he is still not much to look at. But he has a really lovely huge trot, and a nice canter. Lots of overstep at the walk. I have yet to ride him (he needs more weight and condition first) so I can't say anything for how he feels. I plan to event him but with his gaits, he would probably make a nice hunter.

[camohn]

I'm wondering what the bloodlines are of 10 movers that came off the track :) Of course, this is a very unscientific question, but I'm curious!!
my 3 mares sires:
Hail The Pirates
http://www.pedigreequery.com/hail+the+pirates
US Flag
http://www.pedigreequery.com/u+s+flag
Notebook
http://www.pedigreequery.com/notebook

my 4th mare is an "OK" mover but produces better than herself/tends to throw the stallion when bred and movement aside her foals are very brave and super intelligent with an excellent jump. She is sired by
http://www.pedigreequery.com/westering+home

[Coppers mom]

I've gotten 3 very fancy and very level headed babies by Harry The Hat.

[War Admiral]

Lots of that Tom Rolfe/Turn-To cross, so far anyway!

[Meredith Clark]

2 of my OTTBs are what I consider "fancy" (the other two are ok!).

Shorts is more of a dressage type.. lots of knee action, not a "daisy cutter" at all. He's by Mr. Greeley:

http://www.gainesway.com/stallions/listOfStallions/mrGreeley/

Jay has more of the classic TB hunter movement. Very level, easy to sit his trot, long smooth ground covering canter. He's by Chequer, who I can't find (he may be dead) but when I googled him it looks as though he was bred to a lot of "sport ponies" which is interesting.

http://www.equineline.com/Free-5X-Pedigree.cfm?page_state=ORDER_AND_CONFIRM&reference_number=1353971&registry=T&horse_name=Chequer&dam_name=Number&foaling_year=1992&nicking_stats_indicator=Y

[Personal Champ]

My fanciest is by Personal Flag. Love that horse. Great mover, great jumper. Much more level headed as he ages, lol. Raced til he was 9, is now 17.

My new guy, who's looking to be pretty fancy himself, is a Maria's Mon baby. He's really green (as in I've never been on him!) but looks fab in the indoor when we free lunge.

[see u at x]

Mine is by Atticus:

http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/stallion-directory/stallion.aspx?stallion_no=1351367

I'm not sure just how "fancy" she is exactly, but she's a pretty decent one and I've had a few trainers tell me that she can do the "A"s, so we'll see. She could probably do them OK...I on the other hand... :lol: I think she has a nicer walk than her sire does, though.

[LockeMeadows]

The colt is by Husband and his dam is line-bred New Twist. Right now, he's in Ocala, but I don't believe he's shown yet this year. His name is One Step Closer and although he spent a few months at the track, he never got his gate card. The trainer said he rode more like a Pony Horse than a race horse!

[Foxtrot's]

That reminds me of LARRY's HAT a small TB stallion that has bred lots of ponies in Viginnia - he is in BC now and is a lovely mover.

[DLee]

My 22yo TB mare, Dream, (that a trainer told me was in the top 5% of movers in the country, back before I had a clue what that meant) is by Allocated by Nodouble. She also has Turn-to way back on her dam's side. She truly does have breathtaking movement. (Dreamology)

My 6yo very nice huntery mover is by Canvas (Mr.Prospector) out of Petit Oiseau by Storm Bird. She is nice, but still not the mover that Dream is. Wish, wish I had had a baby out of Dream.

My other Tb's are nice enough, a gelding with a fabulous canter (Majestic Light), but nobody can trot like these girls. :)

[au_panda]

My TB mare is by Pentelicus who has Fappiano (Mr. Prospector) in his sire's line and In Reality in his dam line and she is out of a mare with Turn-To in her dam line and Bold Ruler in her sire line.

I wish we could narrow down where that flat kneed hunter movement comes from.

[Tha Ridge]

My guy was a Green Desert baby, out of a Shirley Heights mare. Good 'ole English breeding all the way.

[JenRose]

My guy is by Opposite Abstract (Alydar). He is super fancy but also a super smart pain in my rear!! :winkgrin:

Here is his pedigree...http://www.pedigreequery.com/opnus

[Klang34]

My guy is by a private stud down in FL named Lordedoc.
He is the most amazing mover I have ever seen.

His registered name is Lord Storm (:p) http://www.pedigreequery.com/lord+storm

[watson16]

my 3 mares sires:
Hail The Pirates
http://www.pedigreequery.com/hail+the+pirates
US Flag
http://www.pedigreequery.com/u+s+flag
Notebook
http://www.pedigreequery.com/notebook

Notebook is related to one of my horses! "Blackie's" dam was by Well Decorated. Also my mom had a horse whose grand sire (I think it was his grand sire) was Raja Baba. They are both amazing horses with A LOT of heart.

[Seal Harbor]

Not every TB is an OTTB. Mine never raced and is by Formal Gold out of an In Reality line bred mare, who also happens to be a half sister to Unbridled and Cahill Road. I bought him as a 2 year old, he is a 2004 model.

http://www.pedigreequery.com/in+gold+reality

[Seven-up]

Mine is by Garcon Gris. http://www.pedigreequery.com/sandys+hotsie

I won't call her a 10, since she's got a little more knee bend than I'd like at the trot, but she's pretty nice.


I used to have a daisy cutter who only had knees when she jumped, and she was by Italian Connection. http://www.pedigreequery.com/fancy+blanket I used to think she was stiff-legged the way she moved, but she was usually the hack winner. Shows how much I knew back then, I guess. ;)

[onwego]

I have one who regulary wins the hack and he's an English TB but he never he raced. He is by Derrylin.

[onwego]

Mine is by Garcon Gris. http://www.pedigreequery.com/sandys+hotsie

I won't call her a 10, since she's got a little more knee bend than I'd like at the trot, but she's pretty nice.


I used to have a daisy cutter who only had knees when she jumped, and she was by Italian Connection. http://www.pedigreequery.com/fancy+blanket I used to think she was stiff-legged the way she moved, but she was usually the hack winner. Shows how much I knew back then, I guess. ;)


Is the Sandys Hotsie off of CA Canter? I admired a grey mare on there and I think that was her name.

[Seven-up]

Yup.:)

[vineyridge]

Not every TB is an OTTB. Mine never raced and is by Formal Gold out of an In Reality line bred mare, who also happens to be a half sister to Unbridled and Cahill Road. I bought him as a 2 year old, he is a 2004 model.

http://www.pedigreequery.com/in+gold+reality

What a spectacular dam line! Gana Facile was a WONDERFUL mare.

[vineyridge]

Seven-Up, Fancy Blanket was beautifully bred for a jumping TB. She is from my absolutely favorite female family, and the French TB jumper sire Laudanum has her sire line. Not on top, but Norseman is his damsire.

[GettingBack]

It's interesting to me because mine has Tom Rolfe in there too - his Sire's damsire. I think there's a strong heritability to movement (as it relates to conformation) and because off track thoroughbreds are so easy to find pedigree information on (usually) I was curious.

I do, of course, realize that not every TB is an off-track horse, but I was also interested in seeing if there were any predictors of movement there. :)

Keep 'em coming, I'd love to hear more!

[Sonic Boom]

What a great thread! Looking forward to seeing lots of answers. I'm a huge fan of TB pedigrees and what they produce, both on and off the track.

My little guy can get very fancy asked. ;) He's an eventer, though, so his fancy is different than a nice hunter hack mover. Very animated. Either way, posting his info as interested to see if others have horses by his sire who ended up being huntery.

Slim is by Carnivalay (Northern Dancer out of a Obeah, a lovely producer) out of an Crafty Prospector mare (Mr. P). I am a big fan of Carni myself, so am thrilled to now own one. :)

Sonic, my old TB who was a LOVELY hunter mover was by Deputy Minister, out of an Our Native mare. Blue blood himself. Will be interested to see if anyone else has experience nice sporthorses by DM...I have heard he produced good ones.

[vineyridge]

Don't know about Carnivalay as a hunter sire, but he is one of the current very top American steeplechasing sires.

[Seven-up]

Seven-Up, Fancy Blanket was beautifully bred for a jumping TB. She is from my absolutely favorite female family, and the French TB jumper sire Laudanum has her sire line. Not on top, but Norseman is his damsire.

Thanks! My trainer forced me to buy her as a 3 year old. I really didn't want her; she was a mess; gangly, clumsy, hard to ride. She really blossomed into a nice girl, and we did really well in the smaller circuits. She was a hair over 15.2h, and we eventually made it to the jr hunters. This is her:
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/hunterjumper77/ReneeMistyjump93-ish.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/hunterjumper77/ReneeMisty93-ish.jpg

[onwego]

Yup.:)


Lucky you!!

[scpezold]

My guy is by Opposite Abstract (Alydar). He is super fancy but also a super smart pain in my rear!! :winkgrin:

Here is his pedigree...http://www.pedigreequery.com/opnus

I have heard nothing but great things of the Alydar babies/grandbabies. Great work ethic and great minds!


I got a 2006 Medaglia D'oro baby recently. MD raced till he was 5 so has only been in the breeding shed for short while.
http://www.pedigreequery.com/theironman

Really a handsome guy who is at the moment all legs:
http://inlinethumb07.webshots.com/42758/2553881350104598652S600x600Q85.jpg

[Samotis]

Candi's Goldn is father and mother by Advocatum.

Gracie never lost an undersaddle. She has the most beautiful walk I have ever seen.

[fish]

My best mover by far was an unraced TB mare (bought her as a yearling) by Zodiac (Speak John x Pole Star, by Northern Dancer), out of Super Saint (Boldwood X Go Saints Go, by Royal Stepper). People came out of the woodwork wherever we went asking about that mare.

From my (admittedly limited) experience, I've come to associate Speak John with wonderful minds and all over strength and athleticism; Northern Dancers with more lightness (and lightening quickness that can come out of nowhere) and beautiful, efficient movement; Bold Ruler with classic good looks and ability (Boldwood in particular for elegance.)

That mare was my ideal type of horse: she had enough suspension, a flat enough knee, and length of stride to blow 'em away wherever she went: 9's on gaits from the likes of Sue Blinks and Hilda Gurney, and BN hunter trainers offering to ride her for free in exchange for first option to buy.

First horse to come along with movement to impresses me that much is Hush-- WB (of course :() by Compliment. Boy, do I wish we could find and make more of such TB treasures!

[ladipus]

I'm wondering what the bloodlines are of 10 movers that came off the track :) Of course, this is a very unscientific question, but I'm curious!!

My current very nice,lovely moving ottb is by Our Emblem ... http://www.pedigreequery.com/gallaslad ...

and i previously owned another great mover by Crafty Friend ... http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/margaud

and another very nice mover by Tomorrow's Cat ... http://www.pedigreequery.com/coalition+lad

[ParisHillEC]

I have a really nice OTTB mare who is a lovely mover and she is by Proudest Duke. She will hopefully be doing the baby greens this summer.

I also have two who never made it to the track.

One is a Seattle Slew grandbaby by Canadian Slew who is a wonderful mover and I actually just sold him, based on his movement.

The other one is also a lovely mover, already out there showing and is by DIg Zig.

I do have a Wekiva Springs baby as well, but he's an OK mover...local level stuff

[CallMeGrace]

Here's my son's gelding: http://www.pedigreequery.com/major+lee3

Have been told by various people he is "very fancy", especially after the trainer's weight gain diet!

[kwilhide]

This is my boy:

http://www.pedigreequery.com/elberton+hawk

He can make it in the hunter ring, but excels in dressage.....very big boned (and 17.1) and most ask me his breeding, thinking he is not a TB - but I am very glad he is, I love 'em.

He is a bit of a throwback - he looks a bit like Pharos(sire of Nearco), I was wondering where that head came from.:D

[vineyridge]

I have an old (25) TB who is a grandson of Bold Bidder.
http://www.pedigreequery.com/easter+spy

He also has the Pharos look--they could be twins. I'm thinking that look may come from Bold Ruler, since Elberton Hawk has a sex balanced, top and bottom cross to him.

[GettingBack]

I'm really loving seeing these pedigrees guys, this is great.

I see a lot of Turn-to, Tom Rolfe, Bold Ruler & Northern Dancer. I'm not surprised by the Bold Ruler & Northern Dancer, but the prevalence of the Turn-to and Tom Rolfe surprises me a little.

Keep 'em coming, I'm really fascinated!

[diKecnadnuS]

I had a beautiful mover by Titanic. I wouldn't say he was a 10 (as I believe a 10 to be the absolute best mover you can find), but he was def. a 9+ and could win hacks in most any company. He jumped beautifully too!

http://www.pedigreequery.com/smokerise+charlie

[fleur de duc]

i had a fabo mare who in her hayday was a gorgeous mover. she had lots of issues by the time we lost her due to past injuries that did not allow her to move so nicely, but on nice days when she got a wind up her butt she would strut her stuff! she was all old TB blood by Duc de Great.

my Tb now is by Tomorrow's Cat and out of risen angel. he has got some fancy moves as well; I wouldn't say 10, but enough to get noticed for sure.

[ShowMome]

Seems like Mr. Prospector seems to come up a lot in this thread. My 3yr. old (& will be 4yr. old) OTTB has Mr. Prospector on the Dams side and on the Sires side (who is Freud) is Secretariat and Northern Dancer. She last races the end of April 08'. She had a few injuries due to turn out that had her laid her up off and on for 3 to 4 months, but she remembers everything I've taught her. Very receptive to my leg and hands. Loves to work and has the best attitude.

http://www.pedigreequery.com/celtic+summer

My goal is to ride her in the Hunter Ring, but she is just as quiet out on the trails. She has a very maturity for a 3yr. old that I've never come across in any of my other OTTB I've had in the past.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfqEq3heUd0&feature=channel_page

[kwilhide]

I just remembered, my other TB, who is now living the easy life, has adorable hunter movement, flipped his toes and everything, and a really nice jump too. And a bit of a stocky build. Always got a piece of the hack too. Unfortunately I think what may have been his prior track injuries, coupled with a bad bout of Lyme, were just too much for him to stay sound, but he always tried so hard.:sadsmile:

http://www.pedigreequery.com/sandspike

I had heard the Stormcat offspring are difficult, but he was a grandson, and a real sweetie too. Sooo cute.

[EAY]

My current OTTB is by Norquestor (by Conquistador Cielo). On his dam's side he's got Native Dancer and Tom Fool. He's very athletic and a pretty good mover (though not perhaps a 10 unless he's showing off). He can have an attitude, though, when he wants to.

I'm looking at another OTTB who is a very nice mover. She's by Eastover Court. On her dam's side she's got Buckpasser, Halo (Turn-To line), and Hoist the Flag. She also seems to have a great temperment.

[unclewiggly]

My best movers are out of Private Account mares.
2 that are 10+'s were by Conquestador Cielo.
My all time personal best horse was by Dixie Union and the fabulous 12 mover I just sold was by Not For Love and he was a WOW on anyones scale:yes:

[fleur de duc]

I had heard the Stormcat offspring are difficult, but he was a grandson, and a real sweetie too. Sooo cute.

that is the general thinking I have found. I think a good number of times it is true. My boy's grandsire is Storm Cat and you can CERTAINLY see that Storm Cat attitude in him at times. I was told that his sire was complicated as well, so I am thinking he gets it from his daddy's side. He can get rowdy and become a handful. On the other hand I have also seen some SC babies that couldn't care any less! so it certainly works both ways with that blood line as it does any other.

On the plus side, every SC offspring/grand-offspring I have seen has become or was becoming a fabulous mount. They mature late both mentally and physically, but they are quick learners and will give you 110% everytime. I have found the majority to be "one person" kind of personalities where they really strive on affection from an individual and once that bond is created, they tend to really stick to it; giving their all each time. if you can handle it, it really is not that big of a deal IMO. My boy's good moments make putting up with his crap WELL worth it:D

[QHEventr]

My new guy is by Irish Tower, out of a Deputy Minister mare. He ran till he was 14, and has now started eventing, but he can MOVE! He is super fancy on the flat, and will be even nicer when he actually knows what he's doing.

http://www.pedigreequery.com/mariatom


My retired advanced event horse, who was a very good mover is by Vanlandingham, and out of an Our Native mare.

http://www.pedigreequery.com/diamondham

I also had a very nice littly OTTB that ran BN and was sold. He was a super mover. He is by Arch, out of a Summer Squall Mare

http://www.pedigreequery.com/brandenburg+gate

[LaurieB]

Wills Way.

Anyone have any info or photos of my babies daddy?

Wills Way is a very handsome horse. I can't yet find the picture I'm looking for but here's an article about his retirement:

http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/breeding-news/2008/January/23/Wills-Way-pensioned-at-Old-Friends.aspx

[farmgirl88]

mine is by Gulch and out of a Storm Bird mare.

[onwego]

My best movers are out of Private Account mares.
2 that are 10+'s were by Conquestador Cielo.
My all time personal best horse was by Dixie Union and the fabulous 12 mover I just sold was by Not For Love and he was a WOW on anyones scale:yes:


A friend of mine used to have a TB stallion who was a great hunter mover who was by Conquestador Cielo

[MintHillFarm]

I have an Appalachee gelding that is moves great he is lopey, huge and very appealing.
He did not take after his dad, who was champion 2 yr old in England and a Chef de Race sire; not many horses are considered to be at this level.

[Green Acres]

I won't say my TB is ultra fancy or anything (even though I love him), he has a great canter and nice trot. He's by Rocky Mountain and his grandsire is Alydar.

Here's his pedigree:

http://www.pedigreequery.com/penalty+declined2

I have just started showing him at the local shows & he has won 4 of 6 hacks. :D So maybe some others like him too.:yes:

[DLee]

mine is by Gulch and out of a Storm Bird mare.


Maybe it's the "Storm Bird mare" part! One of mine is too!

[relocatedTXjumpr]

Lola certainly has a fancy trot...but she just turned 4 so we'll see what we have when we finish growing!

shes by E Dubai and out of Plate Boundary

Mr Prospector on Sire side and Native Dancer on both sides.

I just realized she has Native Dancer on both and Raise a Native on both...does that make her inbred?


http://www.pedigreequery.com/rexy

[heather33]

Here's my horse:
http://www.pedigreequery.com/latin+eclipse

[Mali]

Here's my new guy's pedigree:
http://www.pedigreequery.com/cast+out2

I see that both Tom Rolfe and Tom Fool show up in here as well! I haven't had a chance to really critique my guy yet, so stayed tuned!

[Hawkeye_horses]

by A.P Jet
out of Almost Sma by Cure the Blues

Gorgeous movement; lovely, scopey jump; and a kind, mellow mind.

[Entourage]

I leased a nice mare for a short period of time who was sired by Citidancer and she was a gorgeous mover. I wish I could remember her registered name!

[goodmorning]

This guy is an incredible mover - even at an advanced age, he is jaw-dropping :yes: His trot and canter would be hard to beat. I stumbled upon him by accident, and when I saw him trot and canter through his pasture....well, lets just say that I bred my mare to him a couple weeks later! I had the chance to ride a couple of his get, and they all had their sire's amazing rythm :yes:

http://www.pedigreequery.com/real+partner

[cobiemurphy]

My boy - http://www.pedigreequery.com/sir+dex

He's an Australian bred horse, but has quite international bloodlines.

Not so much a fancy hunter mover, but phenomenal dressage movement, and a really scopey, careful jumper.. a super eventer in the making :)

[equest]

I adopted an OTTB in November by Wekiva Springs (who is by Runaway Groom), who is a really lovely mover. He is still in the process of recovering from slaughter pen starvation, so he is still not much to look at. But he has a really lovely huge trot, and a nice canter. Lots of overstep at the walk. I have yet to ride him (he needs more weight and condition first) so I can't say anything for how he feels. I plan to event him but with his gaits, he would probably make a nice hunter.

That is really cool. Good luck with him!

[jetandmegs4]

Jet is by AP Jet. He has a nice jump, and a nice rhythmic canter. Willie is by Walter Willy. He's bigger boned, and prefers dressage to jumping. He does have a nice trot and canter though, and a great mind.

[farmgirl88]

Theres a really nice REAL PARTNER horse listed on this website (go down to COURAGE):

http://www.mmmhorseman.com/sales.html



Heres his video-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYUsTMTGN7c

KAB FIREFLY on that site if you scroll down towards the bottom is also by him...

[ss3777]

My fanciest is by Personal Flag. Love that horse. Great mover, great jumper. Much more level headed as he ages, lol. Raced til he was 9, is now 17.
.


Mine to! My guy is Flagstone Blue. Definitely getting better as he ages. I was told by a NY TB breeder (he stood Theodore at one time, for all you Teddy fans) that Personal Flag is known for his late bloomers. He also hoped that my horse had not been hit by the same ugly stick as his dad. Not sure how to take that because he does look exactly like his dad, oh well. Lots of pics of him in my sig.

[Seal Harbor]

What a spectacular dam line! Gana Facile was a WONDERFUL mare.

Thanks. He is also smart and funny along with being a good mover. It got to the point this past summer that when he heard the microphone click over the PA, before anyone announced anything, he would start walking forward to go see the ribbon lady. :lol:

[SquishTheBunny]

This guy (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2387659600081786972rEqKnj ) is a mystery. I can somewhat read his tattoo, but havent actually figured out WHO he is. He has a 10+++ canter, decent trot.

This one is by Archer's Bay, will get full pedigree if I can figure out how. His race name is Rainbow Bay. He has a great trot, and pretty good canter. He is also the quietest, school type horse you will ever meet.
http://sports.webshots.com/photo/2794250560081786972bTehIZ
http://sports.webshots.com/photo/2518919880081786972RlzoVm
http://sports.webshots.com/photo/2537786940081786972UMLpFv (dont mind the skeleton, this is him straight off the track, upper pictures are from 2 months later)

[Personal Champ]

Mine to! My guy is Flagstone Blue. Definitely getting better as he ages. I was told by a NY TB breeder (he stood Theodore at one time, for all you Teddy fans) that Personal Flag is known for his late bloomers. He also hoped that my horse had not been hit by the same ugly stick as his dad. Not sure how to take that because he does look exactly like his dad, oh well. Lots of pics of him in my sig.

Mine looks just like his dad, too, with a star instead of plain bay. Oh well, I think he's handsome! :yes:

[tarheelmd07]

The big guy I'm riding is a pretty fancy mover...and at 18h, he's a BIG fancy mover :D His pedigree is interesting, given the frequency of Mr. Prospector in this thread, as my boy is by Vaal Reef, a full brother of Mr. Prospector.
http://www.pedigreequery.com/surf+guitar

I'm riding another TB who's not quite as fancy on the flat...but he's quite fancy over fences, even at 21 (pedigreequery.com has his birth year wrong, as he's a 1988 model :) ). He's by Time for a Change...and he's of an old enough vintage that you get some pretty cool horses close up in his pedigree -- as just one example, Damascus is his grandsire
http://www.pedigreequery.com/r+huey

My trainer has a VERY fancy mover by Two Punch
http://www.pedigreequery.com/charlie+moloney

[ParisHillEC]

For a very short time I had a mare by Personal Flag. Lovely mind, and awesome mover...would have been a top small jr hunter for sure:yes:

Unfortunately, she was taken away I don't know where she is... its a long story but I wish she was still in my barn!

[toxicity]

My boy (http://www.pedigreequery.com/index.php?query_type=horse&search_bar=&h=PROJECT+HALO&g=5&p=0&f=1&l=). He's got a WONDERFUL canter and if he doesn't feel ouchy than he trots beautifully. Not the most fancy mover, but he's consistent.

[TKR]

Both of my Thoroughbred stallions, Master Huntsman and Murray's Law, produced lovely movers in all 3 gaits -- very free from the shoulder and used their hindends well, balanced and uphill. Their produce did well in dressage as well as over fences. I also had some foals by Violado (still have him) -- who did very well in dressage and many commented on how much suspension he showed. Another by Beldale Ball (who won the Melbourne Cup), was a super mover and jumper.
PennyG

[boosma47]

Dime, 1982, has a too-die-for walk and canter. His trot is very decent. His gallop is breathtaking. He is beautifully balanced and correct, even at his ripe old age! I think he takes after Round Table in type, from what I can tell from pics and descriptions.


www.pedigreequiry.com/dime7

[nappingonthejob]

My very uphill, balanced, floaty-moving TB mare is by Pioneering...so there's more Mr Prospector for ya'll.

[sisu27]

Northern Dancers with more lightness (and lightening quickness that can come out of nowhere) and beautiful, efficient movement;

Agreed. I used to ride a mare with ND top and bottom and she was UN-REAL. She was refined looking and absolutely cat-like. I have never seen a horse launch people quite like that mare could. If you could manage to make friends with her and stay on she would jump the moon for you. Cool mare.

[Seven-up]

Was it Northern Dancer or Native Dancer that was the grey? If I am remembering right, the grey one was a very pretty mover himself. Native Dancer, I think.

[Penthilisea]

http://www.pedigreequery.com/nobles+lil+falcon

Note: Northern Dancer. I know his Dam was later bred to a Fappiano stud for a nice filly.

He's got a 9 canter, an 8 trot and a 10 walk (IMO). Naturally uphill, lovely scopey jumper, terrific amatuer friendly mind, auto swap.

Of course, he's also benched right now following a ilium fracture, but he is enjoying his life as a wild horse in the woods!

[goodmorning]

Theres a really nice REAL PARTNER horse listed on this website (go down to COURAGE):

http://www.mmmhorseman.com/sales.html

KAB FIREFLY on that site if you scroll down towards the bottom is also by him...

I found both of these guys after I bred my mare to him; quite nice.

Seal's horse is line-bred to In Reality and of course AP Jet has him as a dam-sire. There's an AP Jet in the area that is also a nice mover, pinning in the hack in Ocala out of 35+...I must also say that these horses seem to have great minds, very easy and willing...

Now, while I consider Real Partner one of the true few 10 movers out there, this horse is a 9, and has a 10 walk ;)

http://www.pedigreequery.com/time+cap

[camohn]

My current very nice,lovely moving ottb is by Our Emblem ... http://www.pedigreequery.com/gallaslad ...

and i previously owned another great mover by Crafty Friend ... http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/margaud

and another very nice mover by Tomorrow's Cat ... http://www.pedigreequery.com/coalition+lad

These 3 are interesting to me because all 3 have "OK" sirelines but fabulous damlines...

[camohn]

Seems like Mr. Prospector seems to come up a lot in this thread. My 3yr. old (& will be 4yr. old) OTTB has Mr. Prospector on the Dams side and on the Sires side (who is Freud) is Secretariat and Northern Dancer. She last races the end of April 08'. She had a few injuries due to turn out that had her laid her up off and on for 3 to 4 months, but she remembers everything I've taught her. Very receptive to my leg and hands. Loves to work and has the best attitude.

http://www.pedigreequery.com/celtic+summer

My goal is to ride her in the Hunter Ring, but she is just as quiet out on the trails. She has a very maturity for a 3yr. old that I've never come across in any of my other OTTB I've had in the past.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfqEq3heUd0&feature=channel_page

Not to discount the actual abilities of Mr. Prospectors because the Raise A Native (and most especially the Alydars) do have the jump, but SOME of it has to do with the fact he was a HEAVILY used sire in his day. There are SO many offspring and grandkids that they are everywhere by sheer volume. Not unlike Northern Dancer and Bold Ruler: you can't get away from them because there are simply so many of them out there.

[camohn]

My best movers are out of Private Account mares.
2 that are 10+'s were by Conquestador Cielo.
My all time personal best horse was by Dixie Union and the fabulous 12 mover I just sold was by Not For Love and he was a WOW on anyones scale:yes:

Not For Love has produced a number of WOW looking horses I have seen. At a 25K stud fee his kids don't often up as sporthorses though. I don't need a new broodmare until 2010 whn my colt is old enough to breed....but Not For Love is on my short list for looking for a mare sire/cruising the OTT sites looking for a deal.......

[camohn]

This guy is an incredible mover - even at an advanced age, he is jaw-dropping :yes: His trot and canter would be hard to beat. I stumbled upon him by accident, and when I saw him trot and canter through his pasture....well, lets just say that I bred my mare to him a couple weeks later! I had the chance to ride a couple of his get, and they all had their sire's amazing rythm :yes:

http://www.pedigreequery.com/real+partner

That is a really nice pedigree UP CLOSE! Those are names in the 1st and 2nd generation you don't see until maybe 3rd/ usually 4 and 5 now.........

[GettingBack]

Just realized that I didn't post mine's pedigree...

http://www.pedigreequery.com/great+warrior

[caffeinated]

This guy is shaping up to be a really nice mover :) He's a little out of shape now and needs to learn to carry himself a little better, but he has a big powerful shoulder, enormous reach with his front legs and naturally engages behind...

http://www.pedigreequery.com/prospect+park6

This one is a really cool mover too... maybe a little too much knee for hunters, but he's really neat to watch :)

http://www.pedigreequery.com/lookndownthebarrel

[diva4ever]

http://www.pedigreequery.com/hurricane+mike
"Ike" can be a fancy mover when he relaxes:D He's incredibly balanced on both leads and I've been told that I could go to Lamplight and win ribbons. He's got a smooth and easy jump to ride and a willing attitude that I love (gotta love TBs). My trainer said he's got good lines on his dam's side.

[Horseshowaddict]

I dont think hes off the track, but Sneak Preview (or maybe Sneak Per View) is an amazing mover, and pretty much all of the foals I have seen by him are above 8 movers.

[TRNasty]

http://www.pedigreequery.com/exchange+offer

Above is the information re my 6yr old Gelding that I have been working with a little over a year. Bertrando is the leading CA Sire and I have read some positive things about his off spring that don't cut it at the track.

Now that my guy is finally learning how to use his back, his gates are lovely and I can't wait for the show season. 2nd show ever last year he won the hack!

[findeight]

The closest to a 10 mover I ever had was by a son of Mr Prospector out of a Spectacular Bid daughter. Unfortunately he was a jerk I never could ride and the Pro had to work pretty hard at.

Mare now is about an 8 mover (fading a little with age) and has alot of Bold Ruler fairly close (as do many, he was quite prolific). But, interestingly, has Mahmoud close on the top thru The Axe (grandsire) and looking at alot of these pedigrees, there he is too.

Not a huge fan of ancestors far back but, can't be an accident. I have been able to find some other Hunters by her sire April Axe (by Axe) and they share the same good movement and nice jump. I am getting to where, if I was looking to breed anything, I might want to see old Mahmoud on there, particularly on top somewhere-and he is there on that Bertrando pedigree as well as alot of others cited on here.

[boosma47]

Dime, 1982, has a too-die-for walk and canter. His trot is very decent. His gallop is breathtaking. He is beautifully balanced and correct, even at his ripe old age! I think he takes after Round Table in type, from what I can tell from pics and descriptions.


www.pedigreequiry.com/dime7

Miswrote link - http://www.pedigreequery.com/dime7

[findeight]

Miswrote link - http://www.pedigreequery.com/dime7

There's Mahmoud, on top. He was not that prolific either compared to what modern studs put on the ground.

[DMK]

Not to discount the actual abilities of Mr. Prospectors because the Raise A Native (and most especially the Alydars) do have the jump, but SOME of it has to do with the fact he was a HEAVILY used sire in his day. There are SO many offspring and grandkids that they are everywhere by sheer volume. Not unlike Northern Dancer and Bold Ruler: you can't get away from them because there are simply so many of them out there.

And the one thing all three of those horses had in common was not only that they were used a lot as sires, but they were "sire of sires".

Stage Door Johnny and Secretariat were used heavily in their day as well but their niche is as a broodmare sire, so you tend to not see it dominate so heavily, although it is every bit - if not more - valued.

This guy is looking like a very nice mover, I think his trot is good but so far he has a better canter. The trot is a very businesslike daisy cutter, but not so much reach that it wows you, just that you like it. The canter is take your breath away lovely, sweepy and very much looks like he is up in front of th eleg. The dam is though Cox's Ridge X Graustark which is what really interested me about him, but he is a carbon copy of his sire Lido Palace (CHI) so who knows who the movement comes though.

http://www.pedigreequery.com/throwing+copper2

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3496/3205071548_c52c3b8acf_b.jpg

[findeight]

Hey, DMK, don't know if you recall but the "Pleasures" were quite common in the Hunter ring when I was a bit younger, most very nice movers. You got that Irish in there too with Turn To, more grass horse type and those do have a great canter, deceptivly ground covering.

[DMK]

Yes, if there was ever a line that screams classic hunter type, it is the What A Pleasure line. For Pleasure, Honest Pleasure, Foolish Pleasure and For the Moment were all classic hunter types, and obviously he was very prepotent since you saw the same look carry through several generations. Also, Texas Fuel was by For the Moment.

For the Moment owned the back cover of the Florida Horse for years and he was 100% droolworthy of that position.

I pretty much gave this guy a second look based on his dam's line - very sport horse heavy, with that Hand in Glove type breeding and I have much love for Graustark, full brother to His Majesty, sire of Pleasant Colony. I considered the Mr. P about the weakest link in the pedigree, but the two lines of Mr. P I really like for sport horses are Fapp and Forty Niner (although I really prefer the Peace Rules line of Forty Niner), so that'll do.

[IslandGirl]

I have a Tomorrow's Cat daughter that is a pretty decent mover (an 8+). However, she's definitely got just a little of the Storm Cat attitude (gotta love those chestnut mares, you know!) and prefers being a jumper...she is INCREDIBLY athletic. I actually just posted on the Sport Horse Breeding Forum for some stallion recommendations for breeding her this year.

Here's her pedigree: http://www.pedigreequery.com/richies+cat

[chestnutmarebeware]

Bo's Typhoon (Storm Broker by Storm Cat out of Beaumaris Castle) is shaping up to have wonderful movement—long-strided floaty trot, smooth canter, and a great built-in jump. She's so laidback, though, that it's tough to get a good walk out of her because she prefers to "mosey" instead of "stride." :lol:

http://www.pedigreequery.com/bos+typhoon

[TeamBrickman]

I can "third" unclewiggly's and camohn's recommendations for horses by Not For Love.

I just got off the track a few weeks ago a beautiful grey gelding by Not For Love. Haven't had a chance to get on him yet (shattered my ankle a week after I bought him), but he's a gorgeous mover on the ground! Neat personality, too. . .

[Midge]

Midge was a fabulous mover with a 'not much' pedigree.

http://www.pedigreequery.com/sweet+lothario

Cody is a slightly better than average mover with a ROY grandsire.

http://www.pedigreequery.com/eightsecondcowboy

[findeight]

Midge, not sure Nashua by Nasrullah as a grandsire is "not much" on the first one along with Cannonade and Tom Fool...and Swaps-you got some Derby winners there. Got Mumtaz Mahal, who was Mahmouds second dam back aways.

And you got The Axe by Mahmoud way back with alot of Bold Ruler and Fappiano up close on that second horse.

I don't think good movers are any kind of accident.

[farfel]

My old hunter is 26 and semi-retired but always used to come 1st or 2nd in the hacks. The only exceptions were the odd occasions that he would be a complete animal and go off to the races. He's very leggy and really points his toes at the trot, and has a nice canter.

http://www.pedigreequery.com/yukon+traveler


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