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IrishDeclan
Feb. 6, 2009, 09:10 PM
I know that I should probably learn how to make lovely braids with yarn, but I admit that I've always used rubberbands simply because they were quick and easy. I seem to have problems though when I roll up the braids. The braids always look funny because of the way they end up laying against the horse's neck. Does anybody have any tricks for rolling up the braids? :)

mandalea
Feb. 6, 2009, 10:11 PM
I use bands as well - no matter how many times I sew and wrap the yarn around, they still fall out! But with my bands, they stay put :D

I fold mine instead of rolling them :)

I fold the little 'tassel' at the end of the plait under the plait, band it like normal, then fold it in half, then half again, until it's small enough and/ or looks like it's been rolled :)

Nobody can tell the difference :D

Here's a video for plaiting with thread, and shows a great way to roll them :) http://www.horsehero.com/1180/competition-turnout-and-travel/1714

Blugal
Feb. 7, 2009, 07:24 AM
I do them into button braids. This requires a reasonably short and thin mane (4-6" depending on thickness).

Braid down, then put the elastic in like a cow hitch (http://www.iwillknot.com/images/cow_hitch.jpg). Tie the braid in a knot by wrapping the braid around your index finger. I.e. place your index finger face down beside the braid, the wrap the braid up over the crest, around your finger, and pass the end (almost) through to make a knot. Pull the elastic through and wrap around the now-rounded-braid. It should be a nice circular/button braid.

If you have long wispy mane ends, make sure you don't pull them through or they'll stick up! Once you've done this method a couple times you can figure out how to tuck those ends in to the following braid, then everything's neat and tidy.

I find spraying everything with hairspray then putting a slinky hood over the lot for a while really finishes it off and keeps the wispies at bay.

To remove, unwind the elastics and pull through. If you try to just pull everything out, it only tightens the knot!

saje
Feb. 7, 2009, 08:37 AM
I do bands too, usually, and (unless I've bought crappy quality bands) I can use 1 band per braid so they don't look bulky.

I keep my horse's mane fairly short, so I braid as usual, wrap the band a few times around the bottom of the braid, then fold the braid up under itself and wrap the band a couple of times around the top of the braid, like you would if you were making a ponytail, leaving just a wee bit of slack in the band. Then I use my thumb to dent the braid in the middle, (or top 3rd depending on how long the mane/braid is) and use the last loop or two of band to anchor that fold to the crest. They come out nice and tight and tidy with a little button at the crest and a little tight braid below it.

Wish I had a picture, but all his braided shots seem to be of the other side of his neck!

IrishDeclan
Feb. 7, 2009, 04:12 PM
You guys all have really great tips. Thanks for taking the time to go into so much detail. It really helps me to visualize how they should look. Now I guess I need to just get to the barn and practice!!!! :)

Lincoln
Feb. 7, 2009, 08:37 PM
i have another one - totally shaped by being super lazy. Very long mane. cut not pulled (you see the laziness) that way the mane is even. Get it really wet with a washcloth dipped in water - this keeps the braid together. braid maybe a dozen to fourteen braids -nice and fat. (That's why the mane needs to be long - the braids will be quite big and very long and even, not wispy ) Double under then double under again. Here's the trick. Wrap the rubber band around most but not all of the braid - enough to make a button shape. The rest is just held flush against the horse's neck and kind of disappears. You will need to practice and even so I usually redo one or two braids if I haven't shown for a while because it takes a little bit of doing to get the little braid bundles to look round, not stubby like Vienna Sausages. But, once you've got it down it takes about 15 minutes to braid, and I do them in the trailer. They stay in just long enough for a warm up and a dressage test. These are not overnight braids, but I always felt bad leaving my itchy guys braided overnight. Then I pull them out on the way back from the test. Very easy. I learned them from a BNT and they are beyond easy. Not traditionally correct but they look great and are not wispy...

Does anyone know how to do those really nice rosettes that the Dutch riders do - they are like flat button braids?

IrishDeclan
Feb. 8, 2009, 01:29 AM
Lincoln- My braids are definitely of the Vienna sausage variety!!!! :lol:

Lincoln
Feb. 8, 2009, 03:19 PM
Laughing... try moving the rubber band down further on the braid... that should help it look more like a round nub and like like something to go on a toothpick....

mandalea
Feb. 9, 2009, 03:21 AM
I practiced my rosettes yesterday :D

Here are my Hunt type braids (for when I eventually join the Sydney Hunt Club):
1. FOld the end under, to the end of the band: http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w222/mandaleacalico/P2080038.jpg?t=1234167034

2. Fold it under again: http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w222/mandaleacalico/P2080039.jpg?t=1234167034

3. And again: http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w222/mandaleacalico/P2080040.jpg?t=1234167038

4. Then put a band around the base, not to close to the crest, otherwise it will fall out, and not to far up the button, otherwise it will warp.

ANd there you have a nice round button :D

Now, my event/Hack braids:

1. Fold the 'tassel' under, and secure with band: http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w222/mandaleacalico/P2080046.jpg?t=1234167053

2. Fold under, like in Hunt braids: http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w222/mandaleacalico/P2080047.jpg?t=1234167054

3. Fold again: http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w222/mandaleacalico/P2080050.jpg?t=1234167058

4. And again. and secure with band: http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w222/mandaleacalico/P2080051.jpg?t=1234167115

They look a bit long, but, from the side, where the judge will be looking, they look like buttons: http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w222/mandaleacalico/P2080052.jpg?t=1234167116

And, of course use bands that match your horses mane! I only used the chestnut pony's ones, because I cant find my black ones :cry: SO I'm going to have to master yarn :cry: :)

Peggy
Feb. 9, 2009, 02:03 PM
Dampen mane. Use comb to part neatly, using sections about four finger-widths wide on a kept-up mane. Braid down as far as possible. Secure with one rubber band.

Then fold braid under in half and then under again, so it's now ~ 1/4 the original length, shoving the fold against the crest, right under the mane. Secure with second rubber band. Pushing the fold against the crest gives you braids that don't flop around and stick out, but not up. You may have to use thirds instead of fourths if your horse's mane is short (as it would be for US hunter braids).

I braid down the length of the mane, then go back and fold up, probably b/c I learned with hunters and you always braided down and then pulled thru.

Attached will give you an idea of how they come out. Photo dates back to when we used white tape over the braids.

mypaintwattie
Feb. 9, 2009, 06:38 PM
When I fold mine up I make sure to hold them down on the neck, then take one band and slip it under the braid, twist, and slip it back over. To really secure them after I have finished the entire mane I go back again with a second band and wrap them again.

The gal who taught me this method braided a few of the dressage horses at the Atlanta Olympics, and the mane always turns out very nice looking. I almost prefer using bands to yarn when I can!

Peggy
Feb. 9, 2009, 07:06 PM
When I fold mine up I make sure to hold them down on the neck, then take one band and slip it under the braid, twist, and slip it back over. To really secure them after I have finished the entire mane I go back again with a second band and wrap them again.

The gal who taught me this method braided a few of the dressage horses at the Atlanta Olympics, and the mane always turns out very nice looking. I almost prefer using bands to yarn when I can!I think we have a mutual friend?:D

mypaintwattie
Feb. 9, 2009, 08:49 PM
I think we have a mutual friend?:D

you have a pm

tbeventer
Feb. 21, 2009, 05:20 PM
I braided with yarn for years and would love to learn how to sew, but can do a mane with bands in 20 minutes! I was at a dressage show this summer and braided my youngster's tail. One of the upper level riders asked me who I paid to braid my horse!?! She said even when she rode hunters and jumpers she didn't see tails braided like that. Well... heheheheheheh I braided her gelding for a show for her--again, 20 minutes WITH bands--and everyone commented on the braid job. No one knew they were rubber bands. I prefer them because I can get them out asap when my horse is done, rather than having to wear them forever while I rip them out of his mane!

vineyridge
Feb. 21, 2009, 05:52 PM
Mild hijack here:

Do any eventers use mud knots for tails when the weather is bad? I know foxhunters do and polo players, but I don't recall ever seeing them around an event, no matter how wet and muddy conditions get.

Blugal
Feb. 21, 2009, 07:54 PM
Yes, my instructor used to (moreso 10 years ago than now). They are probably more useful to prevent grease getting in the tail, as opposed to easily-washed out mud! The problem is that you need to practice it beforehand (which we always seem too busy to do), otherwise you might end up with a really pissed horse when the knot first hits him in the butt!

lyssap39
Feb. 23, 2009, 09:20 PM
I practiced my rosettes yesterday :D

Here are my Hunt type braids (for when I eventually join the Sydney Hunt Club):
1. FOld the end under, to the end of the band: http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w222/mandaleacalico/P2080038.jpg?t=1234167034

2. Fold it under again: http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w222/mandaleacalico/P2080039.jpg?t=1234167034

3. And again: http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w222/mandaleacalico/P2080040.jpg?t=1234167038

4. Then put a band around the base, not to close to the crest, otherwise it will fall out, and not to far up the button, otherwise it will warp.

ANd there you have a nice round button :D

Now, my event/Hack braids:

1. Fold the 'tassel' under, and secure with band: http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w222/mandaleacalico/P2080046.jpg?t=1234167053

2. Fold under, like in Hunt braids: http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w222/mandaleacalico/P2080047.jpg?t=1234167054

3. Fold again: http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w222/mandaleacalico/P2080050.jpg?t=1234167058

4. And again. and secure with band: http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w222/mandaleacalico/P2080051.jpg?t=1234167115

They look a bit long, but, from the side, where the judge will be looking, they look like buttons: http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w222/mandaleacalico/P2080052.jpg?t=1234167116

And, of course use bands that match your horses mane! I only used the chestnut pony's ones, because I cant find my black ones :cry: SO I'm going to have to master yarn :cry: :)



I braid almost exactly like this and I think they wind up looking amazing. I have never had any problems with them falling out (even if I braid the night before) and I always get comments on how nice they look. I have tried yarn over and over again, but I can't pull my OTTBs mane because of sensitive skin and so I cut her mane which I do a couple of weeks before a show so it has some time to grow and looks very natural by the time the show comes.

Good luck!