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KnKShowmom
Jan. 15, 2009, 12:19 PM
We have installed new woven wire fencing and the oak boards have arrived. We have done this kind of fence before and have always run the board overlapping the top of the wire, but recently I have seen some with a few inches between the top of the wire and the top of the board.

I understand the reasoning behind the overlap if you have foals in the field, but these will be hunter/jumper/eq horses and I am wondering if raising the board would be of any benefit in terms of a higher fence?

Also, since this is not a level field, not overlapping the wire could give the fence a more level/even appearance.

Have any of you done it this way???

SGray
Jan. 15, 2009, 01:27 PM
did mine with gap -- worked well

gave more height and much of the reason for the board is as a sight-line

S1969
Jan. 15, 2009, 01:34 PM
Ours overlap, but unless you expect the horses to try to squeeze their heads between the wire & the top board, I don't imagine it makes much difference. I am quite sure that my horses wouldn't try to poke their heads through the fence, but I guess it could happen. Aside from that, however, I can't imagine it would matter; the boards don't actually support the fencing, just prevent horses from leaning on the top.

KnKShowmom
Jan. 15, 2009, 01:54 PM
Well as I said, if I were going to have foals in this field I would overlap, but I doubt any horse can get its head through a 3 inch gap!

I had never seen it done this way until recently so I just wanted to get some thoughts before the boards go up on Saturday - then it will too late!

KnKShowmom
Jan. 15, 2009, 01:54 PM
did mine with gap -- worked well

gave more height and much of the reason for the board is as a sight-line

How much of a gap do you have??

BasqueMom
Jan. 16, 2009, 01:28 AM
Might be concerned about the gap with horses rearing up while playing and a hoof getting
stuck between the two. Not likely, but there are some horses that will find a way to hurt themselves in a padded room.....

Badger
Jan. 16, 2009, 07:53 AM
The wire wrapping prevents wood chewing on the boards.

Everythingbutwings
Jan. 16, 2009, 09:12 AM
The Virginia Tech M.A.R.E. Center in Middleburg installed theirs with the wire sticking up an inch (http://arecs.vaes.vt.edu/webinfo/images/Yearlings.gif) or so above the board to prevent cribbing and wood chewing. Most excellent idea!

S1969
Jan. 16, 2009, 09:30 AM
The wire wrapping prevents wood chewing on the boards.

Not in our case; the wire is outside and below the top board, so there is plenty of exposed wood to be chewed in the event they were interested. So far they have had no interest in the oak boards anywhere, though. Not sure if this is typical or not, but it's worked well for us and looks very nice.

Altamont Sport Horses
Jan. 16, 2009, 09:47 AM
We did this but used Centaur's flexible white hot rail on top. There is about a 2" gap between the top of the wire and the bottom of the rail. http://www.altamontsporthorses.com/imagelib/sitebuilder/misc/show_image.html?linkedwidth=560&linkpath=http://khenning.web.aplus.net/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/Daisy3daysfirstrun.jpg&target=tlx_picnbwt&title=Waps A Daisy, first turnout at 3 days of age No problems so far (knock wood). The top rail is hot so we don't have leaning. If I was doing this with wood I would run a simple strand of hot wire along the top to prevent leaning and wood chewing.

Bluey
Jan. 16, 2009, 10:10 AM
Our wire, diamond mesh, was always right up to the top of the board or pipe and wired to the top in a few places between posts.

We didn't have electric wire when we were using that and with weanlings, yearlings and just young, playful horses, we were afraid they would put a foot thru it between board/pipe and mesh.
They probably would not have been hurt, just pulled back and that wire is finished neatly, so it does not do more than leave a rub if they get hung on it.

I am not sure that in larger areas and without horses across the fence you have to worry so much, so doing what you like best there should be fine.:yes:

Badger
Jan. 16, 2009, 10:16 AM
Not in our case; the wire is outside and below the top board, so there is plenty of exposed wood to be chewed in the event they were interested. So far they have had no interest in the oak boards anywhere, though. Not sure if this is typical or not, but it's worked well for us and looks very nice.

Then yours isn't "wire wrapped." The reason to either install as ETBW describes (wire sticking up past the top board) or to install with the top bit of wire turned down over (wrapping) the top board is to prevent wood chewing and cribbing. By installing with the board above the wire, you lose the wire's protection of the board, which is what the OP was asking about. What you gain is a bit more height to the fence.

The top board functions as a sight line and as barrier that prevents the horses from pushing down the top of the wire fencing. These two purposes will be served whether the board is installed above the wire or overlapping the wire.

I'dratherbe
Jan. 16, 2009, 11:08 AM
As BasqueMom mentioned some horses find a way of getting themselves into trouble. Mine managed to find the one spot in the fence line where the board did not overlap the woven wire, reared up at the horses across the fence, and got the wire stuck between his hoof and the shoe. Fortunately, I saw him do it and he was a very good boy, did not panic, and waited quietly (with his foot stuck 4 feet up in the air) until we could get some wire cutters and cut him loose. After that experience I personally would never put a horse in a field where the board did not overlap the woven wire.

S1969
Jan. 16, 2009, 11:45 AM
Then yours isn't "wire wrapped." The reason to either install as ETBW describes (wire sticking up past the top board) or to install with the top bit of wire turned down over (wrapping) the top board is to prevent wood chewing and cribbing. By installing with the board above the wire, you lose the wire's protection of the board, which is what the OP was asking about. What you gain is a bit more height to the fence.

The top board functions as a sight line and as barrier that prevents the horses from pushing down the top of the wire fencing. These two purposes will be served whether the board is installed above the wire or overlapping the wire.

My mistake, then. I know ours is not wire wrapped, and did not think the OP was referring to wire wrapped fencing, just wire fencing with a top rail.

Bluey
Jan. 16, 2009, 11:56 AM
As BasqueMom mentioned some horses find a way of getting themselves into trouble. Mine managed to find the one spot in the fence line where the board did not overlap the woven wire, reared up at the horses across the fence, and got the wire stuck between his hoof and the shoe. Fortunately, I saw him do it and he was a very good boy, did not panic, and waited quietly (with his foot stuck 4 feet up in the air) until we could get some wire cutters and cut him loose. After that experience I personally would never put a horse in a field where the board did not overlap the woven wire.

That is one reason we quit using any kind of mesh wire when we rebuilt our horse pens, went with pipe.
Wire is known for, at any height, be a shoe hanger and the wrecks that can happen when a horse gets his shoe caught.:eek:

We use now pipe panels, but for many years, we used lighter pipes that a horse would not break, but would bend on impact and far enough apart they could pull a head or foot out if put between the pipes in play.

There is nothing really safe, but we were lucky never have a horse injured in those pens by the fencing, in many years of hard use.

KnKShowmom
Jan. 17, 2009, 11:25 AM
My mistake, then. I know ours is not wire wrapped, and did not think the OP was referring to wire wrapped fencing, just wire fencing with a top rail.

Actually, I was just trying to decide whether to have the bottom of the oak board cover the top of the wire or to leave a couple of inches between - I have never seen fencing with the wire wrapping the top of the board or extending up above it - very interesting.

We actually ended up running the board just above the top of the wire - doesn't overlap but no gap so it will be easier to paint the boards when it warms up. Since the field is rolling we weren't going to be able to make the space between consistant so that was a factor in our decision.

Doesn't look too bad and I am just glad to be getting this finished!

merrygoround
Jan. 17, 2009, 11:49 AM
The Virginia Tech M.A.R.E. Center in Middleburg installed theirs with the wire sticking up an inch (http://arecs.vaes.vt.edu/webinfo/images/Yearlings.gif) or so above the board to prevent cribbing and wood chewing. Most excellent idea!

Sounds good to me, the altrnative would be installing a string of electical wire.

ASB Stars
Jan. 17, 2009, 01:29 PM
The Virginia Tech M.A.R.E. Center in Middleburg installed theirs with the wire sticking up an inch (http://arecs.vaes.vt.edu/webinfo/images/Yearlings.gif) or so above the board to prevent cribbing and wood chewing. Most excellent idea!

Agreed- my perimeter fencing is done the same way. Brilliant!

poltroon
Jan. 17, 2009, 08:58 PM
My answer depends upon how tall your woven wire is. The COTH gurus told me I wanted a 5' fence. I was skeptical, but y'all were right.

If your woven wire is 4', then I would put the top board above and allow a gap. But, if you had not yet purchased your wire, I would advise 5' wire and overlapping with the top board. I think it's a bit safer plus I think it's a better appearance.

Bluey
Jan. 17, 2009, 09:01 PM
My answer depends upon how tall your woven wire is. The COTH gurus told me I wanted a 5' fence. I was skeptical, but y'all were right.

If your woven wire is 4', then I would put the top board above and allow a gap. But, if you had not yet purchased your wire, I would advise 5' wire and overlapping with the top board. I think it's a bit safer plus I think it's a better appearance.

Good catch on the height of the wire.:)
I assumed all horse wire would be at least 5', shorter was goat or hog wire.:confused:

ESG
Jan. 18, 2009, 10:14 AM
Nope - ours is 4' no-climb, with cap boards, and on the stud pen, electric wire on upright insulators around the top. I have two horses over 17.2, and never had a problem. The stallion I had in training for a while, never challenged that combination, even when (inadvertantly ;) ) tempted with a mare in heat. Love, love, love no climb. I think though, the next time we put some up, we'll do as the Virginia Tech people did - smart! :yes: