What do you think of him???

[TheBrightSide06]

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[TheBrightSide06]

Any critiques would be great!!!

[Fancy That]

I love how he has some substance to him and looks like a good mover. I'm not sure what you are asking. Do you not know what breed he is? And you're asking people to guess?

Looks TB/WBish to me :) Hard to tell without any conformation shots. His tail looks too thin to be Irish Draught cross or Irish Sport Horse anything. One thing the RIDs have is an ABUNDANCE of mane and tail!! (but I can see why some guessed, because he does have alot of substance and bone..I love that)

As for critiques - you look like you're having fun. Only thing I noticed was you have him BTV alot (behind the vertical)....might want to work on that. Also, he looks pretty loose with his front end...but that doesn't matter in eventing :)

But he looks like an honest, wonderful partner for you! Having fun is the most important thing...it's why we do eventing, isn't it?!

[takethestage]

He's cute, looks like a bigger version of my guy!

[TheBrightSide06]

Thanks!! What kind is yours?

[takethestage]

I'm not entirely sure either, so I just say he's a TB/Connemara. He definitely looks like one, and has characteristics of each breed, so it works. Probably why he looks similar to your guy, if you're going with a TB/Irish cross. I don't think you can get a better horse than that! :D

[Rivertide]

Hey - cute horse. Couple of thoughts. I notice that he hangs his right front over the fences, in some of the pics. Quite dangerously low, in fact, but no worries, it can be fixed. Try doing grid work over uprights and raise the right side of the fence higher than the left (just a little) to encourage him to raise that let up more. Also, I see he has quite a flat humerous and his neck ties into his chest fairly low, which basically means his conformation is better for dressage work than for jumping, but with a little hard work, his jumping form should improve dramatically.

Best of luck with your new baby - A new horse is the most exciting time in a horse lovers life!!

[Eventcrazy]

Very Cute!

[bluesegolene]

Hey - cute horse. Couple of thoughts. I notice that he hangs his right front over the fences, in some of the pics. Quite dangerously low, in fact, but no worries, it can be fixed. Try doing grid work over uprights and raise the right side of the fence higher than the left (just a little) to encourage him to raise that let up more. Also, I see he has quite a flat humerous and his neck ties into his chest fairly low, which basically means his conformation is better for dressage work than for jumping, but with a little hard work, his jumping form should improve dramatically.



I disagree, a neck that is tied low is, in general, an indication that the horse is likely to travel on the forehand, which is not a good thing for dressage!!!
Your horse, in my opinion has an acceptable neck set (and he is a really cute boy :)

[TheBrightSide06]

Hey - cute horse. Couple of thoughts. I notice that he hangs his right front over the fences, in some of the pics. Quite dangerously low, in fact, but no worries, it can be fixed. Try doing grid work over uprights and raise the right side of the fence higher than the left (just a little) to encourage him to raise that let up more. Also, I see he has quite a flat humerous and his neck ties into his chest fairly low, which basically means his conformation is better for dressage work than for jumping, but with a little hard work, his jumping form should improve dramatically.

Best of luck with your new baby - A new horse is the most exciting time in a horse lovers life!!

The pics of the odd looking jumping (hanging legs) were from about 2 weeks after I got him (he was in really bas shape) but he has improved so much.

[Shrunk "N" Da Wash]

I REALY like him :yes:. He looks like he has nice big stride. His conformation looks nice and proportional... Like you said he's not in the best of shape in some of the photos but once you get him fit he will look stellar and his knees can be improved with grids and what not. Also he will move more uphill once he gets more bum muscles :) (hill work is thee best for that). If you wanted to get picky you could say he is a little behind the bit but my guys are to and you can kick them up in front more when you get them into a dressage test. I don't see anything wrong with long and low even if their a bit behind because it is a great way to gain back muscle as long as the long part is there and you don't have your horse all tight with his head on his chest which you CLEARLY dont :winkgrin:. In general he seems like a nice athlete :cool:

[horsetales]

Very nice boy. Have fun with him

[Bobthehorse]

I find it kind of weird that people just say their horses are some sought after breed cross when they have no idea. If you are just guessing, why not go with TBX, instead of tacking on an unlikely breed and then saying the horse is Irish.

He is cute.

[ridebluesky]

He is beautiful!! I have one also irishdraught/tb cross. He is my knight in shining armor he is black . Grids helped me alot as your horse will learn to pick up his front end more, you look great Enjoy him!!! GO IRISH.

[Kap]

Because the old owners just told me he was an Irish Sport, thats why...

Well in your first post, you said:

"I have had most people tell me Irish TB or Irish Sport/Irish Sport X so I am just going with that."

Which makes you sound unsure.

I like the looks of him. I think you really need to ease up on the bit, pick up his front end, and push his butt under him. In a couple of pictures he is waaaay behind the vertical. In this picture, for example, he appears to have halted, and there is no reason for the rider to have his head cranked down so low: http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u285/bentleybabe92/Me%20and%20Kobie/whattadressagepony.jpg . He also needs to learn to work from behind. His impulsion should come from behind; most of his photos show a hind end that is trailing way out behind him, with a big downhill slant to his BTV front end. He looks better in some pictures than in others, so it's hard to judge how big of a problem this is.

His form over fences is unimpressive but functional in most ways. I'd like to see his knees be more even, but perhaps he is simply not trying very hard and would tighten them up over something bigger.

Overall a nice, nice horse. What are your plans for him?

[Sonichorse]

Because the old owners just told me he was an Irish Sport, thats why...

I am really not trying to pick on you, but this type of thing REALLY bothers me. If your horse is grade, say he is! Denying his heritage doesn't make him any less valid as the lovely individual that he is! Now, if the owners really did out of the blue remember what breed he is, I sincerely apologize.

He is very cute but looks quite heavy on the forehand a little prone to leaving his hocks out behind him and moving fairly downhill. These things can all be fixed to some degree by installing a good half halt and increasing his fitness - it can be harder with horses built this heavily in front.

As far as your position goes - you are perching a little bit. On the flat, work on rotating your pelvis slightly forward rather than arching your back and leaving it out behind you. If you look at the pictures, his posture mimics yours, so to some degree by changing your position into more up hill one you can encourage him to do the same. He looks far along enough that it is time to stop allowing him to plod around on the forehand and ride him in a bit more of an up hill balance which you look more than capable of doing!

So my horse, Kobie, is some kind of TB X..
Nobody has any idea what he is crossed with. He is 17hh, has very big bones, built like a WB, moves like a WB or an ISH, but I have no idea what it is and it is driving me insane!! He has a long forelock, thick mane, and a long face with large ears.

This is my YouTube account so if you want to watch some videos of him you can to see if you can find out what he is: http://www.youtube.com/user/EventingQueen92

Thank you!
-Emily

[snoopy]

I am really not trying to pick on you, but this type of thing REALLY bothers me. If your horse is grade, say he is! Denying his heritage doesn't make him any less valid as the lovely individual that he is! Now, if the owners really did out of the blue remember what breed he is, I sincerely apologize.


I have only owned Irish horses...in the beginning it was Irish Tb's and then ISH. Just my preference and BEFORE the were in fashion. In fact when I started riding the ISH I called them poor man's warmbloods!!!

But I agree with this post...who gives a stuff what breed he is as long as he is built to do the job, you like him, and you both form a partnership.

I can think of two horses that I rode (owned my someone else) that go down in my history as two of the nicest horses I had the pleasure of riding.
One was an appy, who was the most impressive mover/jumper and the other who was percheron/tb cross who was another that was fantastic and regularly beat out those fance smancy TB's that we competed against back in the early 80's.

Both only went so far as Prelim...the percheron/tb maxed out there and the appy was sold but I do believe could have gone further.

The great thing about eventing is that it is about talent and heart not the snobbery we see in other diciplines.

I have never been interested or put much worth in "what" my horses are but rather "who' they are.


Have fun with him and try not to buy into this "breed of the month" culture.

[TheBrightSide06]

He will be an event horse and a jumper..

[Sonichorse]

Any critiques would be great!!!

Doesn't this mean you wanted a critique? Anyways I am sorry if my advice was unwarranted or not to your liking. He is cute and you look good together.

[Bobthehorse]

I guess they only wanted good critiques, rah rah rah and all that.


There was another poster who had a grade horse that they called a Conn/TB "because he looks like it". I agree with Sonic, it just bugs me when people do that. Unless you have some sort of inferiority complex, just say it how it is, who cares of its not a trendy breed?

[enjoytheride]

But you are getting upset when people are critiquing him and you. You asked for opinions on him and a critique and this means the good and bad of what people think of you and your horse, and any ideas for improvement.

If you don't want people to talk about his conformation, his jumping style, or your riding then don't ask for a critique or what people think of your horse. Just say "everyone look at my cute new horse" or something like that.

[scpezold]

In the pics I am seeing two different riders and what I thought was two different horses. I am guessing they are the same horse but not sure which rider I am critiquing. Cute guy. Good luck with him.:yes:

Yes, make sure you are prepared for honesty when asking for a critique. So many times people come on this board asking for critiques and then cannot handle the "opportunities" or take the corrective criticism given. It is what a critique is; you take the good with the bad. ;)

[WWGeorgeMorrisD]

Good looking horse!

[Hilary]

One of my best horses was of very unknown breeding - he had a brand and had been a ranch horse - with perfect hunter movement and jump. I made a stall sign for him listing his name, and then underneath "By Who Knows, out of Anybody's Guess".

People believed he was a fancy registered horse and I had a huge giggle every time I looked at my lovely horse of completely random breeding.

:)

Kobie looks like a lovely guy.

venture over to the dressage board if you want an earful of pedigree back 6 (or more!) generations and and how it affects the horse today, but I don't quite buy that. One or 2 generations, yes, but not 6.

[TheBrightSide06]

One of my best horses was of very unknown breeding - he had a brand and had been a ranch horse - with perfect hunter movement and jump. I made a stall sign for him listing his name, and then underneath "By Who Knows, out of Anybody's Guess".

People believed he was a fancy registered horse and I had a huge giggle every time I looked at my lovely horse of completely random breeding.

:)

Kobie looks like a lovely guy.

venture over to the dressage board if you want an earful of pedigree back 6 (or more!) generations and and how it affects the horse today, but I don't quite buy that. One or 2 generations, yes, but not 6.


Haha!!! That is great what you did with your horse..too fun and I love it!!