Goodtimes (the stallion)

[Kyzteke]

I've admired this stallion "on paper" for many years and now have a mare that would suit him just perfectly.

I'd love to hear about any GT babies out there (pics are great) along with what sort of mare he goes well with.

And, most importantly, how good is his frozen?

[sixpoundfarm]

I have a coming 8yr old daughter of his, out of a Calvados- Ramiro mother.
http://sixpoundfarm.com/060406002sm.JPG
I like her very much. She is smart, athletic, dual talented and attractive. She had her first foal this year, a very good colt by Vallado. I purchased her late in life, and she was unstarted, but I did send her off for some basic training, which went OK. She is a strong willed mare, and had been used to doing her own thing for a long time, so she was a bit spoilied in that regard.
I think she is doing growing at 16.3. :) But, her mother was 17.1 I am told. She was bred here with frozen, and it appears there are many frozen babies out there from him, so I'd venture to guess its good.
He is actually on my list of consideration for one of my other girls.
I think you see a consistency in type, abilty and performance. Many of them are in the Dressage and Show Jumping arenas.
(There are 2 nice ones I found on the Hunter/Jumper exchange website the other day!)

I think he's a very good stallion, good luck in your choice.

[tuckawayfarm]

His frozen is excellent. :)

I have a weanling filly by him out of a Hanoverian mare. She has the sweetest temperament I've ever seen in a foal.

Sorry, but I have no clue about posting pictures. :(

[HSGF]

I bred one of my mares to him 4 years ago and I was very happy with the results.

I used him on a lovely Hanoverian mare by Rio Grande that I use to own and the result was a beautiful modern type leggy filly. Sophie is now 3 years old and she has fantastic uphill movement and is a really nice jumper/dressage type mare.

Sophie has just started under saddle and from what her owners are telling me she has been excellent to work with and they are excited to get her in the showring next season. I think they want to head to the jumper ring with her.

Here are some pictures of Sophie when she was a foal
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The Goodtimes frozen semen was excellent quality......and my mare at the time took on 1 dose first try. Wish they all could be that way!;)

Good Luck!

[carnivalhill]

Give Kathy Hickerson at Majestic Gaits a call -- she has several Goodtimes offspring herself, and has sold lots of them. She can tell you everything you want to know. From my experience, Goodtimes throws horses with lots of jump and movement, real all-rounders. They are smart horses, with fun personalities.

[Kyzteke]

Give Kathy Hickerson at Majestic Gaits a call -- she has several Goodtimes offspring herself, and has sold lots of them. She can tell you everything you want to know. From my experience, Goodtimes throws horses with lots of jump and movement, real all-rounders. They are smart horses, with fun personalities.

Actually usually the LAST person I ask about a stallion is the owner or agent. Not that Kathy isn't totally cool and honest, but there is a definite tendency for 99% of stallion owners to "gild the lilly."

I'd rather get my info from others first....

[Kyzteke]

I bred one of my mares to him 4 years ago and I was very happy with the results.

I used him on a lovely Hanoverian mare by Rio Grande that I use to own and the result was a beautiful modern type leggy filly. Sophie is now 3 years old and she has fantastic uphill movement and is a really nice jumper/dressage type mare.

Sophie has just started under saddle and from what her owners are telling me she has been excellent to work with and they are excited to get her in the showring next season. I think they want to head to the jumper ring with her.

Here are some pictures of Sophie when she was a foal
http://inlinethumb14.webshots.com/40269/2499377050075568778S600x600Q85.jpg

http://inlinethumb07.webshots.com/42886/2372510020075568778S600x600Q85.jpg

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The Goodtimes frozen semen was excellent quality......and my mare at the time took on 1 dose first try. Wish they all could be that way!;)

Good Luck!

What a cutie! How tall did she end up? I understand GT is only about 16.1hh.

Anyone know what sort of height he throws?

[HSGF]

Well I have no idea where the height came from but Sophie is now 16.3h.h at 3 years old. Her dam is 16.1h.h and Goodtimes is 16.1h.h......I am thinking the height came from the Dam's sire side Rio Grande.:yes:

I was told by a few other breeders that Goodtimes does not throw a lot of height to his offspring.

[Leah A]

We have a Goodtimes colt that was licensed for breeding last year. Really lovely, modern type, super mover with lots of elasticity, super canter, very good through the chute with lots of power and technique behind. Incredible temperament...super laid back but also responsive and respectful.

Our mare is more an old type Holsteiner, very consistent in producing movement and jump. Goodtimes refined her a bit and added suppleness. He did not add size or height. He did add what he's marketed as adding namely good movement, lots of carrying power from behind, good jump, and a beautiful type.

The frozen was great, the mare caught with one dose (and successfully transfered the embryo to a recipient mare).

I hope this is not construed as advertising (not a premium member so can't post pics), if so, mods please let me know and I will remove this link: http://www.canadianwarmbloods.com/stalliondetail.php?horseid=1000208

[sixpoundfarm]

What a nice colt Leah! Congratulations!

I was just looking through some old NAWPN Directories, and it looks like Goodtimes frozen has been used successfully for quite sometime!

[sporthorsefilly]

One of the most beautiful mares is Wildcard! http://www.sportingchancefarm.com/wildcard.htm

She is by Goodtimes, and a super, super nice girl that would certainly make me think of using Goodtimes! I've seen Wildcard in person, and what a lovely mare she is!

[zara001]

I have a 2008 goodtimes filly, she has the most super friendly temperament. I adore her. Plenty of carrying power and she is certainly very pretty! (attached two head shots) Her dam is a big, long lined flemmingh mare, it seems she may have her dam's height but she is more compact than mom!:yes:

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z36/richyaustin/daisyavatar.jpg

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z36/richyaustin/Daisy/daisy023.jpg

[bloomingtonfarm]

Oh Zara, there is something about Goodtimes that we easily recognized in your little one. So so cute!

[zara001]

:lol: Yes she certainly looks like her daddy! and she has his bounce! She has that Goodtimes look, lovely crinkle just above her eye. You can certainly spot a GT offspring a mile off alot of the time can't you!:lol: She was for sale but I have decided she is a keeper, her personality is just fantastic and I can't wait till she is four!

[hansiska]

I've seen Kathy Hickerson's mare by Goodtimes -- Miloma -- in person and I've seen two of her foals in person, including Uloma (#1 Elite mare in the country last year with the Dutch). She's honestly one of the best mares I've ever seen and one of the top five I covet in this country. Fantastic, powerful movement. Super, super mare.

Goodtimes could clearly jump the moon. If I bred Dutch, I'd seriously consider him. I'd be very pleased to see him in the damline. I think he was known as a phenomenal broodmare producer. Miloma's certainly living proof. I'll never forget that mare. Her movement blew me away and she was 8 or 9 months pregnant at the time.

[Kyzteke]

Wow -- very nice foals. Wildcard is just lovely.

Sounds like he might be just what I'm looking for. I want a shorter back, big engine, good gaits. Both the mares I'm thinking of for him have super personalities already so sounds like that's a given.

I have THE worst luck with frozen semen, so it helps to here it's great stuff.

[karin@dutchbreeders@aol.com]

Hello Everyone,
THANK you Sporthorsefilly for the mention and wonderful compliments!

This is a thread CLOSE to my heart as Wildcard SCF (now Elite!) whose breeding is Goodtimes X Silvio 1 Elite Preferent, is my "Heart Horse", and my all time favorite! I have had FOUR of my own Goodtimes', two full siblings to Wildcard (all three ET's Wartimes/Welborne and Windfall"), and Zoe (Goodtimes X Wanroij Preferent). My sister has had three of her own that I have had personal experience with (Goodtimes X Michellino). ALL SEVEN, out of three very different mares, have been beautiful, typey, smart and EXCELLENT movers.....Goodtimes truly throws "whole package horses", and in my experience, in addition to type and beauty , passes on a powerful quick hind leg regularly....I can usually spot a Goodtimes the minute they trot!<G>

Here is Wildcard's free jumping video clip here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfU9SG0mANc

Wildcard freejumps for FUN to break up the monotony of her dressage training! She absolutely LOVES it and in my opinion, could have a career as a top show hunter or jumper as well (despite her High Point Championship and wins at DAD!<G>! Anybody can ride her, but she has the sensitivity and "forward" to interest professionals as well...."Jewel's" consistency under saddle has been remarkable.....She has rarely gone to a show where she hasn't won at least one class. Of interest as well is that she acheived a perfect "10" for her Free Walk this summer, and all of her gaits have been scored over 8's by judges......

Both of Wildcard's full siblings have been sold to Grand Prix riders/trainers, one as a jumper, and the other as a dressage horse. All are dual talented and very special. Extensive photos of all of the Goodtimes can be found on my website and on Lauren's at goldhopefarm.com . The ONLY thing that you can not count on Goodtimes to add, in my experience, is height. According to the breeding indexes in Holland, he throws slightly smaller than the average in Holland. Wildcard's dam is 16.3 hands and Wildcard and her sister are just over 16.1 h. Their full brother Welborne (was Wartimes), is very tall....I am told about 17 Hands. If you have a tall (and perhaps long lined )mare, you really can't go wrong with Goodtimes!

For Kyzteke and others who have asked, the Goodtimes semen is FANTASTIC, and most of the seven offspring that we have had have been on one frozen insemination (and actually Wildcard's two full siblings were acheived both with one insemination and then ET)! We have never had anything but GREAT semen from VDL Stallions, purchased from and distributed by Kathy Hickerson.

I am in agreement with hansiska..I think that Goodtimes might be best known by his exceptional daughters! We have actually produced our first Second Generation Goodtimes...Wildcard's first (and only to this date) foal Carte Blanche SCF (Lupicor X Goodtimes Elite X Silvio 1 Elite Preferent) was honored with the title of the #! KWPN Jumper Foal in the USA (tie). He is now being "groomed" for Pre Approval with the KWPN next Fall...."CB" is still as gorgeous and sweet as ever, and what a MOVER! We have the highest hopes for him and he is my second "Heart Horse"....only just behind his mother Wildcard!<G> Carte Blanche is a Second Generation homebred for us, and proof that Wildcard is an excellent producer as well as show horse.....Photos of Carte Blanche can be seen using this link:

http://www.sportingchancefarm.com/carte_blanche.htm

Sorry for rambling guys...Goodtimes (and Wildcard <G>) are my favorite subjects!<G> Hope this helps you Kyzteke and others interested in Goodtimes....I just cannot say enough good things about him. Because I am a die hard All Around breeder, and won't bend my standards on beauty, gaits, or jumping abilty, there are precious FEW stallions that meet our criteria....Goodtimes (and Balou du Rouet) have earned our loyalty as producers of "whole package" horses!


Warmly,
Karin
PS As always, feel free to email or call me with any other questions!

http://sportingchancefarm.com/wildcard.htm

[ahf]

Actually usually the LAST person I ask about a stallion is the owner or agent. Not that Kathy isn't totally cool and honest, but there is a definite tendency for 99% of stallion owners to "gild the lilly."


THis has been the complete opposite of my experience. Perhaps it's because I don't usualy deal with "single stallion" owners, or ones that have not been in the business very long. But my experience with SO's like Mo Swanson, Suzanne Quarles, Max Mickle and Edgar Schutte has been that they are my best sources of information regarding heretability, fertility and assessment. The feedback I've gotten from the internet has been terribly unreliable, with a lot of the offspring owners suffering from "Poopsie Syndrome".

THaqt said - though I don't breed Dutch - Goodtimes is very interesting and I wish you luck in whatever you chose to do!

[Lauren Efford]

Hi Everyone, my sister Karin mentioned my Goodtimes foals, the fourth of which I am expecting this spring. I cannot say enough good things about this stallion as well as his semen quality and the consistent quality of his foals. My mare has gotten in foal every time with one heat/dose to him, and the one time I decided to try something different, we went through several heats with no pregnancy to another stallion. I almost gave up for the year, tried one dose of Goodtimes, and job done :)

The oldest of the full siblings, Good as Gold, is a true stallion prospect, and is one of the best movers you will ever see. He is the complete package with almost perfect conformation, beauty, movement and the WOW factor. He earned an 8.7 for movement at his inspection as a premium foal and was asked back by the judges as a stallion prospect. There are photos including DAD from September on my website at www.goldhopefarm.com He ribboned both years he showed at DAD, and is the best horse that I have ever bred. He is truly FEI quality.

His full sister Good to be Queen was also an amazing, powerful mover,and absolutely stunning looking. She sold to CA as a weanling. Their full sibling, Dutch Times, the colt from this year is drop dead gorgeous, as well as being a super mover and athlete. Goodtimes has consistently modernized my mare (A Dansk Varmblod Michellino daugher from Denmark) in all of the foals, and each year I consider doing something different, and then go back to Goodtimes, as I would have a hard time improving on these foals :). They are all incredibly smart as well...sometimes I think too much so :). Please visit all of these horses on my website at www.goldhopefarm.com to get a really good idea of what Goodtimes throws. I wish I could post photos...I will see if someone Karin can do it for me. Thanks for listening :) [/I]

[karin@dutchbreeders@aol.com]

Here is Good as Gold Goodtimes x Michellino, premium Buckskin Oldenburg stallion prospect as a 2 year old at DAD 2008

[karin@dutchbreeders@aol.com]

Here is the 2008 Goodtimes x Michellino colt

[karin@dutchbreeders@aol.com]

Last years Goodtimes x Michellino filly

[Schiffon]

The trainer at our farm owns and trains a Goodtimes gelding, Supertimes, who looks just like his sire, including the fat snip on his nose and he is a fabulous, powerful mover with alot of carrying power as well. Sweet in the stable but does have an interesting opinionated streak sometimes under saddle, especially if he has had a few days off! Nothing dangerous, its just like he wants his rider to know that he doesn't really HAVE to do stuff, so you should appreciate all the more when he is good!

Supertimes was this year's BLM finals champion at 3rd level with a score of around 72%. In his warmup class the day before he got something crazy like a 79%. The plan is to show at PSG next year.

[Kyzteke]

Goodtimes could clearly jump the moon. I think he was known as a phenomenal broodmare producer. Miloma's certainly living proof. I

WAS? He's not dead is he? I'll have to go back & look -- when was he foaled?

[hansiska]

Oops! Sorry about the verb. Whether or not he's still alive, I should have used the present tense. He IS known as a broodmare sire.

BTW, my quick internet search found he was born in 1988. But why trust this Hano breeder for your info? I found this page chock full of info, video, pedigree, scores, etc.:
http://www.goldhopefarm.com/goodtimes.htm

[zara001]

Yes he is still alive, I saw him a few weeks ago, He is currently standing at the sport horse centre in the UK, He has a fabulous stable manner and comes alive under saddle still! Boy does he bounce :lol: Fabulous to watch and a complete pleasure to be around. Worth noting he is completely clean limbed and sound at 20 years old, lovely lovely stallion :yes:

[winter]

There was recently a son of Goodtimes licensed by Canadian Warmblood. He looks lovely. He is on the Canadian Warmbloods stallion page.

[Kyzteke]

Yes he is still alive, I saw him a few weeks ago, He is currently standing at the sport horse centre in the UK, He has a fabulous stable manner and comes alive under saddle still! Boy does he bounce :lol: Fabulous to watch and a complete pleasure to be around. Worth noting he is completely clean limbed and sound at 20 years old, lovely lovely stallion :yes:

Yes, that IS worth noting! All the ability in the world isn't worth much if they won't stay sound.

I am hearing SO many good things about him -- I'm sold!

Seems the only drawback to him as a sire is the fact he doesn't throw alot of height. But in the case of my mares, I think we'll be fine.

Thanks so much to all who replied both on this thread and via PMs -- I really appreciate it!

Keep 'em coming.

[karin@dutchbreeders@aol.com]

Hey Schiffon,
Any photos or video clips of Supertimes? He sounds great!

Warmly,
Karin

[Majestic Gaits]

I am horrible at gilding the lilly! LOL. Stallion owners that do that are not doing their stallions any justice. I want the mare owners to get what they want to fit their mares. It is better for the breeders to want to come back and refer their friends! I don't own Goodtimes, but VDL does and yes I sell the frozen for them. There is plenty of frozen here to choose from and when I don't have something that fits what people are looking for, I'll be glad to say so too.

I do think that people should research it as much as possible though. I do for my own breeding too. The best you can tell about a stallion is what he stamps in his offspring.

Goodtimes is one of my favorites. We have had success with him and many of our breeders too like Karin and Lauren have had super success with Goodtimes too.

I have Elite mares by Goodtimes and have bred to him and have imported foals by him and had them in training here. I'll be glad to tell you anything you want about him that I know. Our KWPN head inspector Jacques Verkerk from Holland was talking at the judges training this year what a good dam sire Goodtimes is. He said he likes to see it in the 2nd or 3rd generation in a breeding. I loved hearing that as I now have 3 Goodtimes mares for breeding. My Keur Elite mare Miloma (Goodtimes - Dreamstreet) who is always my favorite to ride too. She had a super foal by Rascalino last year that was first premium and this year she is in foal to Schroeder (Sandro Hit - Escudo I). She has produced super. I have a new Keur Elite Goodtimes mare Zalanta (Goodtimes - Houston) in NL who has had 2 really nice foals from Johnson (Jazz - Flemmingh). One of which is a super filly that we will likely keep. I also have a yearling Goodtimes filly in NL out of our Keur mare Taloma (Flemmingh - Ahorn) that we are keeping too. Fantastic mover.

For sure Goodtimes throws a powerful hind end, lots of knee action, shorter stronger back and most of mine have been in the 16-2 to 17 hand range but I would not breed him for height. He puts on plenty of bone and good feet. Very smart offspring that love to play and work. Mine know how to get out of the paddock if it is not double chained! We had one take all the tops off the electric fence and pile them in the middle of the pasture. I understand Goodtimes sire Nimmerdor used to do this with jump cups too. They often have a lot of white socks and blazes. And yes he does stamp. I've seen them do well in both dressage and jumping. Strangely enough my Goodtimes mares are both bred with dressage lines and bred for dressage. But, I've seen just as many that are super jumpers too. Nice all around with lots of power.

Kathy
www.majesticgaits.com

[BigBayBoy]

Lauren -

Dutch Times is incredibly nice. Do you think he'll take after Goodtimes as far as height? He looks quite leggy.

[Lauren Efford]

Hi Big Bay Boy! Thank you! This is quite possibly the most beautiful foal we have ever had...I do think that he will exceed his sire's height, as his dam is just about 17 hands. His older full brother Good as Gold should be about 16.3 or a bit more (he is 2 now), and is quite leggy as well. The only negative consideration that I have found as far as breeding to Goodtimes is his taking away size, but with my mares height,I do not worry. I very well may rebreed again in 2009 for the 6th time...the more research I do, the more I keep thinking why change what I am doing when I have been so pleased with all of the Goodtimes X Alino Queen foals...still fingers crossed for my palomino WB filly by him which may be in utero right now and hopefully is just as nice as my others of the same cross.

[Kyzteke]

The only negative consideration that I have found as far as breeding to Goodtimes is his taking away size,

Lauren -- do you feel GT actually "takes away" height or just can't be counted on to produce it?

I ask this because one of the mares I am thinking about for him is an Arab mare -- only about 15-15.1hh. But this mare has consistantly PRODUCED size in every one of her foals by a wide variety of stallions. Her colt by a 15.3hh stallion was almost 16hh and her colt by a 16.1hh stallion is now almost 16.2hh.

The other mares I think of for him are in the 16.1-16.2 range, but again -- I don't want HUGE -- 16hh is fine for the Arab crosses and I think 16.1-16.2 is plenty big enough for the WBs.

Besides (and correct me if I'm wrong), he seems to consistantly throw a full body, which is going to take up alot of leg no matter what the actual height of the horse.

[Lauren Efford]

Lauren -- do you feel GT actually "takes away" height or just can't be counted on to produce it?

I ask this because one of the mares I am thinking about for him is an Arab mare -- only about 15-15.1hh. But this mare has consistantly PRODUCED size in every one of her foals by a wide variety of stallions. Her colt by a 15.3hh stallion was almost 16hh and her colt by a 16.1hh stallion is now almost 16.2hh.

The other mares I think of for him are in the 16.1-16.2 range, but again -- I don't want HUGE -- 16hh is fine for the Arab crosses and I think 16.1-16.2 is plenty big enough for the WBs.

Besides (and correct me if I'm wrong), he seems to consistantly throw a full body, which is going to take up alot of leg no matter what the actual height of the horse.

HI Kyzteke, in the case of my foals and my sisters, all by Goodtimes, all have been (or may be in the case of the younger ones ) a touch shorter than their dams, but all of the 7 I am mentioning are out of three tall mares, all mares are between 16.2 and 17 hands. I think my sister or Kathy Hickerson can give you a better feel from a different array of mares, but in our case all were a bit less tall than their dams (but certainly big enough :) Karin , Kathy or Siegi, does the Dutch Index system actually say that he takes away size on the average mare or just does he not add it?? I will defer to the pro's at this, since my experience is all with the same 3 mares...one had three Goodtimes foals (My sisters Preferent Mare Marie Louise), a different mare of hers Jolie' had one Goodtimes filly and my mare Alino Queen is on her fourth live one (we lost one) for this spring. Hope this helps!

[karin@dutchbreeders@aol.com]

Here are a couple of photos of the Goodtimes x Alino Queen (Michellino) Good as Gold that illustrates the type of conformation and movement that Goodtimes has known to throw. He has always (in our case) given a good, strong, shorter topline, modern type, and very good conformation...this photo was taken last summer as a just turning 2 year old. All of the Goodtimes babies have seemed to mature quickly and they never seem to go through the ugly duckling stage! And, can they MOVE!!Great hindleg and suspension...and they really pick themselves up in front and GO!

[Majestic Gaits]

All my Goodtimes I've had have been 16-2 or larger. I do have 2 mares that are 17 hands but probably mostly because of bigger marelines. Because Goodtimes is just around 16-0 hands that if your looking to add height bigger than 16-0 hands, I wouldn't count on it. Most people that breed to him are not looking to add height or size. The index shows that he produces -1.51 cm from the average height of the Dutch warmblood which is 164 which means the average size of the (mostly 3 year olds) they measured from him in Holland was 162.9 which is around 16 hands. You can guess that the 3 year olds would grow and there were a few older horses measured in there, but also he is bred mostly to bigger mares than him as the average is bigger and most people who know him are likely not to breed to a smaller mare than him. So, my guess is that he will at least produce the height of a smaller than 16 hand mare or maybe add to it. But, I wouldnot expect him to produce big even though it is possible.

Clear as mud? Hope that helps.

Kathy
www.majesticgaits.com

[bloomingtonfarm]

I leased my sister's mare Zalanta for a 2008 foal from Rousseau... oups Kathy, you meant Valanta right? ;)

She is by Flemmingh out of a Goodtimes mare (imported by Kathy from Holland) and gosh, talking about stamping a mare...to the second generation. She has much more of Goodtime than Flemmingh, and no, she is not tall. She was 15.3 at three when presented for her studbook (not a good idea)and now 15.3 3/4 hh at four almost reaching her 16 h. She has GT color too and his lovely head. She is the most elastic mare I ever saw. She puts her front legs streched in front of her sometimes for a few minutes before she decides to get up. And she doesn't need any assistance to scratch herself ... from her neck to her tail.

My sister bought her as a dressage mare (thanks Kathy) but the first thing she did upon her arrival was to jump the fence to be with other horses at the farm she was kept. She did the same here, quarantine was pretty short!

I don't know if she likes to jump or not because... it just does not make any difference for her. Why get into the trouble to go around when it is much faster to jump over it, that's it. And she has this fanstastic trot but maybe this is from Flemmingh,(well he is the sire after all).

And to top all that, she is THE most friendly girl . We just love her and she gave us a First Premium colt, what can we ask more.... well, I don't know. I just received a $250 check in the mail yesterday from the KWPN-NA, no explication with. Maybe it is because her foal has received the highest score of the Keuring from the stallion auction. I have to call them to check this out. Well this is Christmas soon :):):)

[karin@dutchbreeders@aol.com]

"....And to top all that, she is THE most friendly girl . We just love her and she gave us a First Premium colt, what can we ask more.... "

Hi Everyone,
I am in agreement with Kathy about size.....I wouldn't breed Goodtimes to a small mare, but wouldn't worry about size when breeding to a good sized mare (as individually defined).

Suzanne, your comment about your mare being "friendly" is SO interesting....I just got back from visiting Wildcard Keur Elite (Goodtimes X Silvio 1 Elite Pref), and have to tell you that I have NEVER MET such a social, friendly, and intelligent horse...This mare is more like a smart dog than a horse!<G> "Jewel" never does anything "wrong"....It's almost like she has reasoning ability and it is "below her" to act up or do anything stupid. You should SEE the way that she glares at horses doing things "below her"!<G> One thing that makes this mare SO unique is that anyone can handle her or ride her, but she does have what I call a "Pavo Cup Button" and when a capable rider asks for it, she gets sensitive, forward, and produces! This mare has been this quiet since just started....As a three year old at Fair Hill (the first time away from home under saddle) Jewel led a group of older horses through the woods when some were reluctant.....Wildcard's trainer Angela calls Jewel "Old Reliable"!<G> This is probably why she wins/ribbons so consistently under saddle....She doesn't care where she is or about her surroundings....only pleasing her rider and "getting it right"!<G>

Sorry for the long post.....As you can tell this mare is close to my heart!<G>
Warmly,
Karin

[Leah A]

There was recently a son of Goodtimes licensed by Canadian Warmblood. He looks lovely. He is on the Canadian Warmbloods stallion page.

Thanks for mentioning our boy, winter! I did post about him on the previous page...here is his link again for those that would like to see Zoticus C: http://www.canadianwarmbloods.com/stalliondetail.php?horseid=1000208

[BigBayBoy]

Lauren - thanks for the feedback on the Dutch Times colt.

And to everyone for the insight about the height that Good Times produces. As a smaller AA rider, who's always scoping out what my next dressage prospect may be, it's very interesting to me that he doesn't pass on much as far as height goes, but does pass on quality gaits, ridability and temperment. A very good combo in my book! :winkgrin: I'll have to keep an eye out for more of his babies in the future.

Thanks everyone!

[in_the_zone]

My trainer rides a Goodtimes gelding and all I can say is WOW. Ultra-quick hind leg and super floaty.

Edit: I just read back over the thread and this is the same horse Schiffon is talking about. Thanks for the info on his temperment!

[Lauren Efford]

Hi Leah A, your boy is absolutely gorgeous! I think he is very similr in type to my sister's mare Wildcard...you can see her at www.Sportingchancefarm.com

What do you think?? lauren

[c&s]

And I've got a Goodtimes too - 4 y.o. mare out of Karin's Wanroij mare Jolie. I bought her as my next dressage horse, but I think she wants to jump, and a couple of serious upper-level eventing trainers like her a lot for that. She's not going to be tall (I think she'll probably end at 16-1), but she's very smart, learns fast, wants to please. She does have a high opinion of herself, though - she looked at one particular working student like she was her waitress...

[Leah A]

Hi Leah A, your boy is absolutely gorgeous! I think he is very similr in type to my sister's mare Wildcard...you can see her at www.Sportingchancefarm.com

What do you think?? lauren

I agree! The type looks to be very similar...Goodtimes seems quite prepotent in producing this type. Wildcard is a spectacular mare. Zoticus' owner went to DAD to watch his maternal brother (Adesco C) compete and came back also raving about the Goodtimes mare she saw there. Guess who the Goodtimes mare was!!?? LOL.

[Lauren Efford]

I think as a turning three year old, Good as Gold also has a similar type to your boy and Wildcard as well, the shorter, strong topline, very correct conformation, beautiful head, and the movement with the very active hindleg and excellent uphill gaits...you can pick them out of the crowd by their movement and looks! There are pics of my three Goodtimes foals on my website if you would like to take a look...check out the similarities between Good as Gold, Good to be Queen, and Dutch Times and I am hoping for the exact same foal in a gold coat in the 209 model! www.Goldhopefarm.com