Stallions known for strong backs??

[Sundown Farm]

Does anyone know of any stallions that are known for producing strong backs when crossed with a longer backed mare?

[Sebastian]

We have a mare by Cicero and a gelding by FG... They both have beautiful backs. I would not judge these stallions by what you saw in one horse...

JMHO,
Seb :)

[Brutust]

Escudo I (Germany) / Escudo II (USA) are known to cross well with mares with "longish" backs.

[nsm]

Part of why Ironman was imported was to shorten and strenghten longer/weaker backs.

Nancy

[Tasker]

Off the top of my head...and this is from having seen multiple offspring-

Beste Gold
Ironman
Waldaire
Weltmeyer
Dressage Royal
Jaegermeister
Regulus
Raliegh's Full Moon
Avebury WF

[ponygirl]

I'll throw a few out there
Balta Czar
Coconut Grove
Ariadus
Cotopaxi

[not again]

Dekor and Abundance both were superior at improving back strength. Having ridden both of them as well as numerous offspring, Dekor more consistently threw a strong and soft back (easier to sit). With Avebury WF, who is by an Abundance son out of a Dekor daughter, we are finding a consistent blend of elastic and strong over the back.
Just a generational observation......

[sid]

Boleem

[Edgewood]

Gold Luck

[Equine Connection]

While I'm not sure of your goals for the offspring, in addition to other attributes, Happy Hour consistently produces offspring with very good backs (strong w/good proportion), engines and toplines... Best wishes!

[Spectrum]

Off the top of my head...and this is from having seen multiple offspring-

Beste Gold
Ironman
Waldaire
Weltmeyer
Dressage Royal
Jaegermeister
Regulus
Raliegh's Full Moon
Avebury WF

Um, I actually would *avoid* Weltmeyer or many of the Weltmeyer sons I've seen if the mare needs improvement in the back. While many Weltmeyers are short in the back as far as length, they often tend to have an odd loin connection that drops forward from the croup towards the saddle and can be extremely difficult to get "through the back." This is often masked by the extravagant movement they tend to throw, and they can appear to be exceptionally engaged while using their backs very poorly.

I've noted this in several that I've seen in person, on video and in photos. I've also discussed this with other breeders who have noticed the same thing.

Spectrum.

[Tasker]

Spectrum - We've foundthe issue with the backs of the Weltmeyer's is often found with the 'true to type' Absatz descendants...they are almost too strong and can lock behind the saddle (inverting the sacrum almost) and use their power for evil purposes, not good ones! :) Having grown up with the A line as my riding horses what you're saying makes a lot of sense & is very familiar territory, but I wouldn't necessarily blame Weltmeyer...perhaps Anka/Absatz/Abglanz instead?

We've found Wolkentanz I (not to name names) to be very prepotent for what you described, though with the 'odd' loin connection & difficulty in the higher level collection & power. But he carries Absatz 2xs. His offspring are incredibly elastic though...

But like any other horse, every horse has a mother and I made my list from stallion/mare/foal combinations I've seen up close & in person...JMHO and worth exactly what you've paid for it in the end!

:)

[Fairview Horse Center]

We've foundthe issue with the backs of the Weltmeyer's is often found with the 'true to type' Absatz descendants ... I wouldn't necessarily blame Weltmeyer...perhaps Anka/Absatz/Abglanz instead?

We've found Wolkentanz I (not to name names) to be very prepotent for what you described, though with the 'odd' loin connection & difficulty in the higher level collection & power. But he carries Absatz 2xs. His offspring are incredibly elastic though...

This is what I had been taught too, and something to be careful of when you see Absatz in the pedigree.

[Spectrum]

Regardless of where Weltmeyer got it from, he does have a high percentage of offspring that receive that trait, so I still don't see him as a stallion you would want to breed to in order to improve the back!

I'm sure that crossed with the right mare that back issue may not appear, but if a mare owner is looking for a stallion known to pass on good backs, I can't see Weltmeyer as one I would ever suggest.

Spectrum.

[wildswan]

Um, I actually would *avoid* Weltmeyer or many of the Weltmeyer sons I've seen if the mare needs improvement in the back. While many Weltmeyers are short in the back as far as length, they often tend to have an odd loin connection that drops forward from the croup towards the saddle and can be extremely difficult to get "through the back." This is often masked by the extravagant movement they tend to throw, and they can appear to be exceptionally engaged while using their backs very poorly.

I've noted this in several that I've seen in person, on video and in photos. I've also discussed this with other breeders who have noticed the same thing.

Spectrum.

Ditto