WHO ARE SOME FANCY HUNTER STALLIONS

[too many horses]

I am new to the forum. I breed mostly for fancy hunters. Last year I had an AMAZING Paparazzo colt. This year I had a fantastic Rakus colt. 2009 I am expecting a colored Voltaire filly and anoth Paparazzo.

I am open to breeding to young stallions without a foal crop. My colt was the very first Rakus foal.

Anyone have ideas or suggestions??

[joyful]

My favorite hunter stallion is Just the Best, Tish Quirk in CA. Those horses are amazing!

[supershorty628]

My first thought was Popeye K or Cabardino.

[oldenburger with fries and a cold beer]

I love some of the stallions you have chosen already!!! I would like to hear more about your mare and maybe see a picture of her before I made any stallion suggestions. I think all that have been made so far are wonderful choices but it depends on what you are crossing them with. Utimately, what are you looking to improve in your mare and what are you looking to produce???? I was looking for temperament, movement and an improvement in my mare's hindquarters so I chose Westporte. I can't say enough wonderful things about him.

[too many horses]

My main goal it to have some awesome foals that are in demand, and sell young. I have had great luck the last 2 yrs.

[too many horses]

Yes, both are nice. However, I feel that the market is going to be flooded with Popeye K babies.

[oldenburger with fries and a cold beer]

If I had more nice mares I would have bred to Roc, Apiro,Escapade,Just the Best and Cunningham!!

[dana1011]

http://www.crookedwillowfarms.com/horseDetail.do?keyName=Chaleon&type=stallion

http://www.countrylanewarmbloods.com/cunningham.htm

http://www.grayfoxfarms.com/grayfoxstallions.htm

http://www.silverhorne.com/Stallion_Sir_Caletto/stallion_sir_caletto.html

http://www.crownaffair.net/

http://www.chinabluefarm.com/RagtimeHanoverianStallion.html

http://www.chronofhorse.com/index.php?cat=41411033620461&ShowStallion_ID=1182105083987666#

[WEBSTA]

http://www.steeplehillfarm.com/orion.info1.html I just starrted riding this won, very fun and he is going to be showing the pregreens with Aaron Vale in ocala. He's a lot of power in a small package!

[two sticks]

http://www.silverhorne.com/Stallion_Sir_Caletto/stallion_sir_caletto.html
]

I LOVE my Sir Caletto baby!

[monalisa]

As Always, ridden by an A/O who trains with Peter Pletcher.

[fish]

As Always, ridden by an A/O who trains with Peter Pletcher.

Also leading the Green Confo. Division ridden by Peter. This is one I'd like to learn more about.

Meantime, have others mentioned Shine (Alesi) and Jupiter?

For my own part, I've been breeding my TB mare to Cunningham and been very happy with the results.

[Klang34]

westporte, westporte, westporte!!! I would give anything to have on of his offspring.

http://www.countrylanewarmbloods.com/stallion.htm

[Madison]

In addition to some of the ones mentioned above, I am a fan of Don Alfredo - his offspring are typically known for very ammy-friendly temperaments as well. www.onthebitfarm.com

[diva4ever]

Ironrule is amazing. He's only 3 so he hasn't started his breeding career yet but he is gorgeous and has movement to die for. He has a big jump in him so he can easily move from the hunter ring to the jumpers. Ironman, Ironrule's sire, has many great hunters, as well as jumpers, eventers, and kids in dressage. You can't go wrong with either of these. See ironmanonline.com for more info.

[3Dogs]

Most of the hunter stallions in this country are just now getting youngsters into the show ring. For the US based stallions I have seen, there are a few with get going over fences. A few have really impressed me. I apologize, I don't know Rakus.
I am biased, I admit, as I bred to one of the "make me impressed" stallions (and then bought one of his get), but there are others I am ignorant of.

I mention only ones I have seen (as an aside, I have a baby that I was sure was a cinch for the jumper ring but my fav trainer says he is making great hunter babies so ???:D)
so here is a picture of a Sir Caletto baby as a three year old:
(not mine):


I have liked the Everest babies I have seen (as I have been able to see a few over fences).

My Corlando :winkgrin: is the ?? He will not win the hack. I do know he will jump well.

[Alex6198]

[QUOTE=fish;3710428]Also leading the Green Confo. Division ridden by Peter. This is one I'd like to learn more about.
QUOTE]

I bred my mare to As Always last year and have a spectacular filly by him. She has incredible conformation, movement, and temperament...I'm planning to keep her as a hunter prospect for myself. Would love to breed to this stallion again in another year.

[WWEB]

Noble Houston

Check out this FULL TB 3 Year old Filly !!:)

http://www.worldwideequine.net/images/NH/Abby%20KY%2008-2.jpg

http://www.worldwideequine.net/images/NH/Abby%20ISROLD.jpg
http://www.worldwideequine.net/images/NH/Abby%20KY%2008-3.jpg

Another Full TB gelding by Noble Houston- first year showing with an A/A
http://www.worldwideequine.net/images/NH/Jeff%20Marshall.jpg

Yearling Filly By Noble Houston out of AQHA mare
http://www.worldwideequine.net/images/NH/Lickliter%20yearling%202.jpg

and a coming 2 year old colt out of an APHA mare
http://www.worldwideequine.net/images/NH/Tex%205-9-08-5.jpg

[Party Rose]

A current resource would be last Friday's (December 5th) Chronicle, the 2008 Stallion Issue.

[ktm2007]

http://www.dornataintor.com/stallion.html

[cabby773]

Everest is a great stallion for producing quiet offspring. Our 3 year old by Everest was champion is the 3 year old futurity division at Warrenton this year. He is a good mover and jumper- but the best part is that he is sane! He is really easy to ride and will do anything you ask.

Here is his pic from Warrenton: http://pets.webshots.com/photo/2281714460082985574VNBXVG

Some of Everest's other offspring did very well on the line- including Sox Fifth Ave, Sox in the City, and Sox on the Beach. They are all big beautiful horses that look just like Ev.

[lauriep]

Nob Hill. His get are currently too young to be in the ring, but they LOOK like hunters, WIN on the line, MOVE like hack winners, and have all the right stuff to jump well. He is now being managed by Richard Taylor's Venture Stallion Mgt., so should be getting much more press. You can see pictures of him here http://www.nokomisfarm.us/id1.html.

[fish]

[QUOTE=fish;3710428]Also leading the Green Confo. Division ridden by Peter. This is one I'd like to learn more about.
QUOTE]

I bred my mare to As Always last year and have a spectacular filly by him. She has incredible conformation, movement, and temperament...I'm planning to keep her as a hunter prospect for myself. Would love to breed to this stallion again in another year.

Wow! Congratulations! Any pictures? Do you happen to have a link to this stallion's pedigree?

[tBHj]

Sandro's Boy.. :)

[crestline]

Palladio (http://www.crestlinefarm.com/p_jump.htm) won a bunch this year including winning the International Hunter Derby in Washington State. His kids are just starting to show and are doing very well...many showing with kids and ammys so not showing up on the big national scene. The brains, jumps and toplines on the foals are fantastic.

We've had great luck with crossing flatter moving mares, especially TB or 1/2 TB, crossed on him to get really fancy hunters that jump and move very well. [edit]

[heelgirl4381]

I LOVE my Sir Caletto baby!

I second Sir Caletto. I have seen many of his babies and they are all gorgeous with great dispositions.

[Go Fish]

This is a timely thread for me...I've been enamored of Cunningham...how old is his first foal crop? Anything inspected or showing?

[grayfox]

I like Cunningham also. I think his first foals are a few years old but he just got approved for breeding so I think next year he'll have babies inspected. Nice stallion.

[Go Fish]

I like Cunningham also. I think his first foals are a few years old but he just got approved for breeding so I think next year he'll have babies inspected. Nice stallion.

Oooooo...I love your Redwine, as well!

[BREEDINGMANIAC]

I love Everest- I saw Sox On The Beach at IHF in Warrenton last year (in the 2 year old under saddle) and he just blew me away! I have yet to see another youngster move as well as he does.

Congratulations Cabby with your Everest colt this year- he was such a trooper in all that mud! I was suprised not to see Everest in the stallion issue this go around, but from what I hear he has so many bookings from word of mouth, she really does not need to advertise.

There were definately some nice stallions and offspring in this year's issue. I was very impressed. :)

[Galileo1998]

I'm a fan of Apiro, Federalist, Cunningham, Westporte, Popeye K and Sir Caletto. I've seen a few pictures online of Pasolongo and he looks interesting.

[Dana]

I'll jump in here, just because I happen to have a copy of As Always' papers in front of me.

Major is a branded Westfalen and is sired by Feuerglanz and out of a mare by Argentinus. The dam is Pilot on the bottom side.

If you have a membership to Phelps, there's a photo of Major in in the nominations for Phelps year-end awards. He was also the horse on the cover of the Capital Challenge prize list (and poster) this year. Beautiful mover and jumper and a great disposition.

Dana

[Cloverbug]

I like color :) No one's mentioned Flying Color's Farm in FL and "Claim to Fame", "Counterclaim", and I believe they are now offering a son of Voltaire - "Colaire"
http://www.flyingcolorsfarm.com/index.asp

[Serah]

I'm sure I'm very biased...and i hate to post without footage that is fair to my boy, but I LOFF him...

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2217930&l=be920&id=12710304

Bonfeuer, 17.1 belgian warmblood

So far all his babies will win the hack, are tall, and very quiet.. none of them have been started O/F yet.

[genevieveg17]

I was very impressed when I saw Federalist in person last week. Really nice stallion with what looks like hack winning movement. His trainer went on and on about how much she is enjoying having him in the barn. Aloha is beautiful and I am really looking forward to seeing him at Thermal.

[Bethe Mounce]

A Fine Romance would be my first choice. He stamps his get; I have a mare by him and she is to die for.

[fish]

This is a timely thread for me...I've been enamored of Cunningham...how old is his first foal crop? Anything inspected or showing?

As grayfox suggests, Cunningham's first crops were very small, his owner having bought him for her own use-- to show and breed to her own mares and those of a few friends who tracked her down. To my knowledge, his oldest crop is a 6 year old mare (Come As You Are) who showed very briefly in the Pre-Greens (?) before starting her broodmare career at a fantastic new farm in Tennessee (owned by the same people who bought Cubito, the champion of the Holsteiner Verband for 400,000 Euro a few/ (or a couple??) years ago). I and Sebastian (on these boards) both have 5 year olds (and I have a weanling colt as well). There's a baby pic of my older one in my profile, and you can search Sebastian's posts if you'd like to see hers. Both have taken to training beautifully and are pretty much ready to go. Mine did his first and only little show a couple months ago: there were no o/f ribbons because my trainer opted to keep it totally low pressure by doing the adds and trotting the corners instead of doing the changes. The stride has always been there: it's always been a lot easier to do the distances than add with this horse. They were 2nd out of about 10-20 (?) on the flat, and everyone (especially my trainer) was amazed at my lovely, and totally unflappable boy :) 2 months later, the changes are automatic and, as my trainer put it "a geriatric person could ride this horse!" I'm just waiting for the next show and will be pi$$ed as he11 if my trainer trots any more changes (though I might be ok on the adds if he thinks it's still ultimately best for the horse). I'm more in love with this horse every day, and know Sebastian feels the same about her Bridgette.

Meanwhile, one of my friends has a 4 year old filly from Cunningham's 3rd crop: by far the easiest horse I've ever started u/s in my life. My friend has been trail riding her since she was 2-- and we're talking those 4-hour chuck-wagon marathons full of beer-guzzling folk (including my friend). This year, she's getting ready to start field hunting -- has already done a couple hunter paces.

Bottom line: Cunningham's babies are, IMO, just on the verge of showing what they can do in the show ring and wherever else their owners decide to take them. The only serious limitation I'm seeing is the cost of showing in this economy :(

P.S. FWIW, when he was an uncut 2 year old, I did take my colt to an AWS inspection of which he was champion, got a star... whatever. The same year, he also showed a little on the line: was 6th at Devon (ahead of the next year's reserve BYH) and 5th at Upperville. I fielded a lot of inquiries and turned down a very handsome offer for him at Devon.

My weanling looks at least as good as his brother. Although eligible for both AHHA and ISR/OldNA (as well as the American WB) papers, I have my doubts about the value of inspections-- especially for hunters.

[KaterasEqGirl]

I'm sure I'm very biased...and i hate to post without footage that is fair to my boy, but I LOFF him...

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2217930&l=be920&id=12710304

Bonfeuer, 17.1 belgian warmblood

So far all his babies will win the hack, are tall, and very quiet.. none of them have been started O/F yet.

Gorgeous horse, he looks like his moves amazing

[superpony123]

Try looking at the Iron Spring stallions. Wonderful horses! google their name, their page should come up.

ironspringfarm.com probably?

[busybee]

Try looking at the Iron Spring stallions. Wonderful horses! google their name, their page should come up.

ironspringfarm.com probably?
I've never heard of Iron Spring Farm having any hunter stallions. Do they have new stallions?

[MLP]

I'm sure I'm very biased...and i hate to post without footage that is fair to my boy, but I LOFF him...

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2217930&l=be920&id=12710304

Bonfeuer, 17.1 belgian warmblood

So far all his babies will win the hack, are tall, and very quiet.. none of them have been started O/F yet.

So cool!

[karenrrafuse]

Apiro. Classic, gorgeous hunter.

[winsmorefarm]

I would suggest checking out Balta'Czar, who stands at Jump Start Farm - www.jumpstartfarm.com.

[Andrew]

My favorite hunter stallion is Just the Best, Tish Quirk in CA. Those horses are amazing!

DITTO!!
www.tishquirk.com

[Go Fish]

Fish...took a look at your pic....NICE! What type of mare is the 5-yr-old out of?

[fish]

Fish...took a look at your pic....NICE! What type of mare is the 5-yr-old out of?

Thank you :D. My mare is a big-bodied, Md. bred TB by John Alden.

[Cloverbug]

Another stallion that has not been mentioned but foals seem to be showing some promise in the hunter ring is Indian Artifacts. http://www.whatiwork4.com/index.asp A friend of mine has a 2 year old out of this stallion and he's already 16.3 hands with a good sound mind. He's been out on the trails without a blink and even did his first hunter pace about a month ago (no jumping yet).

Another one that occassional is showing up in the hunter ring is Skys Blue Boy. His foals are tending to be more HUS and Equitation horses. http://www.skysblueboy.com/skysblueboy.htm

Yes, both of these stallions have AQHA bloodlines.

[jetsetter]

Another stallion that has not been mentioned but foals seem to be showing some promise in the hunter ring is Indian Artifacts. http://www.whatiwork4.com/index.asp A friend of mine has a 2 year old out of this stallion and he's already 16.3 hands with a good sound mind. He's been out on the trails without a blink and even did his first hunter pace about a month ago (no jumping yet).

Another one that occassional is showing up in the hunter ring is Skys Blue Boy. His foals are tending to be more HUS and Equitation horses. http://www.skysblueboy.com/skysblueboy.htm

Yes, both of these stallions have AQHA bloodlines.
ehh not to sure about the whole WENGLISH stallions. Have you seen their feet!! :O

On another note, what is the general consensus on All The Gold??

[Go Fish]

Thank you :D. My mare is a big-bodied, Md. bred TB by John Alden.

I was mentioning Cunningham to my trainer today as a possibility for my mare. He raved on and on about this stallion. He thinks this horse will produce some nice amy horses because of his wonderful disposition (he's seen him show). It doesn't hurt that he's a great performer, too!

I'm assuming because the owner has had Cunningham approved that she will be considering taking more outside mares. My mare is older and this will probably be her last foal. This foal will be a keeper for me so I want to do it right.

[Whitehedge Farm]

Cabalito has produced some very nice hunters that are selling very well the past several years!
He produces beautiful movers with terrific attitudes and great rideability.

He is standing in FL now at www.marshpondfarm.com

I have lots of his offspring on my farm right now with tons of pictures@

www.whitehedgefarm.com

[Go Fish]

Cabalito has produced some very nice hunters that are selling very well the past several years!
He produces beautiful movers with terrific attitudes and great rideability.

He is standing in FL now at www.marshpondfarm.com

I have lots of his offspring on my farm right now with tons of pictures@

www.whitehedgefarm.com

This is a nice stallion, also. I'm a big fan of Bolero...

[Samotis]

There are some great suggestions on here. I think a lot of these stallions could be great with the right mare.

That being said, I have a very petite tb mare I was looking to breed to get a fancy hunter.

I chose Roc USA because of the offspring I saw at the hunter futurity and the temperament he passes along. I know that he has offspring both showing well in the young jumpers as well as some hunters showing and placing in big shows like WEF. The oldest crop is 7 this year I think.

My boy is now almost 10 months and he is everything I wanted. He is super leggy like mom, but has more bone and is a dark bay with a lot of white like his dad. Moms face, but will end up being at least 16.2.

His movement is a mix of both I think. He has a to die for canter and his trot gets better every day. I have to say that one thing Roc does pass on is the most amazing canter step across the ground. They just lope the lines and have a fantastic jump.

The 3 year old Sir Caletto was to die for at the IHF this year and if I had a warmblood mare I would breed to him in a second!

It will be interesting to see what the new up and coming stallions produce and what types they will produce. I have my eye on a few for 2010!

[way2trvld2]

Ragtime in california is fantastic and throws very correct and flashy babies

[fish]

I was mentioning Cunningham to my trainer today as a possibility for my mare. He raved on and on about this stallion. He thinks this horse will produce some nice amy horses because of his wonderful disposition (he's seen him show). It doesn't hurt that he's a great performer, too!

I'm assuming because the owner has had Cunningham approved that she will be considering taking more outside mares. My mare is older and this will probably be her last foal. This foal will be a keeper for me so I want to do it right.

I think Mary has always been willing to consider outside mares, she just didn't advertise or seek them out. The same is kind of true of the approvals. There was no way Mary would have risked (or even sidelined) Cunningham's H/J career and training by sending him to a 100DT or pursuing other registry performance requirements (i.e. FEI dressage or jumping). Instead, she waited for approvals until the registries became interested in accepting Cunningham on the basis of his exceptional H/J career. I'm thrilled with how it's turned out.

Good luck with your mare, and don't hesitate to call Mary, send her pics of your mare, etc. She's a blast and (of course) loves to talk about her horses (especially Briggs/Cunningham and his babies).

[Cloverbug]

ehh not to sure about the whole WENGLISH stallions. Have you seen their feet!! :O

On another note, what is the general consensus on All The Gold??

Yes I've seen Indian Artifacts baby's feet and they are fine. The foals out of this stallion do not carry themselves in the typical wenglish fashion. But then most of them have been out of good TB or appendix mares. And have ended up with people who do not ride and show the AQHA circuit so they do not train them for the lower head set. He also tends to throw height and not bulk into his foals giving them a refined look and not a halter horse look. His foals are also eligible for the American Warmblood Registery after inspection for what ever that's worth.

[grayfox]

Oooooo...I love your Redwine, as well!

Thanks!

[sixpoundfarm]

Cabalito has produced some very nice hunters that are selling very well the past several years!
He produces beautiful movers with terrific attitudes and great rideability.

He is standing in FL now at www.marshpondfarm.com

I have lots of his offspring on my farm right now with tons of pictures@

www.whitehedgefarm.com


I really like Cabalito, wish I had bred to him when he was available fresh. :(

[ladipus]

I've got two fancy 3 1/2yr imported dutch geldings...one is by "Rhodium"(Olympic Ferro) and the other is by "Haarlem"(Voltaire)

[cantercutie]

All the stallions mentioned are fantastic but I will agree with posters on previous pages in the As Always motion. I don't know his pedigree and I think he's only six or so so too young to have progeny in the showring but from having seen his conformation, movement, and jump not to mention that he also shows in the A/Os and I've seen kids petting him and he doesn't seem to care: wow.

[Dana]

Cantercutie,

If you look back, I did post As Always' pedigree.

Dana

[MagicRoseFarm]

I'll jump in here, just because I happen to have a copy of As Always' papers in front of me.

Major is a branded Westfalen and is sired by Feuerglanz and out of a mare by Argentinus. The dam is Pilot on the bottom side.
Dana

Funny you mention he is out of an Argentinus mare. When I spoke to Peter last week about him, he did not know his pedigree. ..I am looking at him to breed to one of my mare's who has Absatz blood also. We have had incredible babies by doubling up on this blood.

[sixpoundfarm]

All the stallions mentioned are fantastic but I will agree with posters on previous pages in the As Always motion. I don't know his pedigree and I think he's only six or so so too young to have progeny in the showring but from having seen his conformation, movement, and jump not to mention that he also shows in the A/Os and I've seen kids petting him and he doesn't seem to care: wow.

Does anyone have any photos of this fellow? He sounds interesting.
Contact info for the owner too?

[arizonard]

Love Popeye K and Alla'Czar. I am really thinking hard about how I can get my hands on an All the Gold mare for the breeding program too.

What do you guys think of Zarr?

[fish]

I'll jump in here, just because I happen to have a copy of As Always' papers in front of me.

Major is a branded Westfalen and is sired by Feuerglanz and out of a mare by Argentinus. The dam is Pilot on the bottom side.

If you have a membership to Phelps, there's a photo of Major in in the nominations for Phelps year-end awards. He was also the horse on the cover of the Capital Challenge prize list (and poster) this year. Beautiful mover and jumper and a great disposition.

Dana

Would you consider adding this pedigree to the All Breeds database? I've been frustrated by the USEF's "unkown/unknown" on this wonderful horse's breeding for many months. I don't know Fuerglanz, but love Argentinus, and have fantasties of getting a Cunningham filly to x with As Always someday.

[can't re-]

What do you guys think of Zarr?

There are some nice ones out there competing.
Zarr horses (http://www.ravenwoodfarminc.com/barnhappening.html) One was 2nd in the Nation in the 1st Years.

[Dana]

Fish,

When I get back home, I'll post Major's pedigree to that All Breeds Database. Can you give me a link to it? If you want, you can PM me with the information.

I talked to Peter tonight, and he's supposed to be sending me some photos and a video online of Major (As Always) that I can forward to anyone who's wanting to see it. Breeding inquiries should be directed to Peter Pletcher, not Major's owner.

Dana

[fish]

Hi Dana--

You have a PM.

[MandalayTraining]

I love Palladio. All of his babies have INSANE scope and jump a 10, plus they have the brains to back everything else up. I also love Apiro, very fancy, gorgeous movement and jump. I do have to say though that I was very unimpressed with Westporte. Ive seen a few people on here that really like him but I've heard from several people plus the trainer that there isnt much there. They had to create the jump and he was pretty difficult to get into the ring. Fancy mover however movement is only a small part of what should make up a "true" hunter.

[Go Fish]

Thanks!

Fish - thanks for sharing a photo of your beautiful boy with everyone. Me thinks Redwine has some pretty good bone going on!!!

[SidesaddleRider]

I've never heard of Iron Spring Farm having any hunter stallions. Do they have new stallions?

Consul at Iron Spring is producing hunters far more than jumpers. I have a 4 yr old by him, and she is the epitome of a hunter. She has no idea what anything other than a rhythmic, lopey pace is.

Another stallion no one mentioned is Silvio (in VA). His get are all still pretty young, but all of the ones I've seen are :eek: movers and HUGE.

[3Dogs]

well I am sold on Sir Caletto - saw him show, loved his temperment _ and was dazzled

Then I also saw the hunter offspring of Corlando - :D
I aim for that ring the European's own - 3'6" and up!

so, here are my children: I can't seem to reduce enought the picture of the super Corlando babe, but here are the Sir Caletto's:

[Go Fish]

Would you consider adding this pedigree to the All Breeds database? I've been frustrated by the USEF's "unkown/unknown" on this wonderful horse's breeding for many months. I don't know Fuerglanz, but love Argentinus, and have fantasties of getting a Cunningham filly to x with As Always someday.

Hi Fish:

Do you have a current website or Email addy for Mary/Wildewood Farms? The address I have is not working.

[fish]

Hi Fish:

Do you have a current website or Email addy for Mary/Wildewood Farms? The address I have is not working.

Email: wwfwmblds@aol.com

Cell (usually the easiest way to reach her): 949-285-6053.

[oldenburger with fries and a cold beer]

Just wanted to say thanks to the op for this fun thread I just wish I had lots of mares and money. Op, let us know who you pick and share pics!!!BTW Mandalay, I thought that was a very inappropiate post. In this economy why would you want to alienate potential clients? :no:

[MandalayTraining]

Just wanted to say thanks to the op for this fun thread I just wish I had lots of mares and money. Op, let us know who you pick and share pics!!!BTW Mandalay, I thought that was a very inappropiate post. In this economy why would you want to alienate potential clients? :no:

Oldenburger, I'm sorry you thought that was inappropriate however I dont view as alienating potential clients. The OP wanted to know opinions of fancy hunter stallions and I gave her my opinion. Some people may like Westporte and thats fine, nothing against them, he could be the kindest stallion in the world but if Im breeding for a fancy hunter and someone tells me that a stallion I was thinking of using doesnt necessarily have the potential to pass that to his offspring, I would certainly take note and do my research. Didnt mean to offend anyone, but if someone asks your opinion, why not be honest?

[oldenburger with fries and a cold beer]

The op was not looking for information on Westporte specifically. You decided to use this thread for your own amusement. There is a difference between being an honest person and being rude.

[MandalayTraining]

Didnt think I was being rude, but i apologize to anyone I offended. I will stick with the fact that I like Palladio and Apiro and I think they are very fancy hunter stallions who produce wonderful foals, Ive also heard good things about Ironman, Mescalero and Special Event

[Dana]

As Fish requested, I've posted As Always' pedigree on the All Breeds database.

As soon as I get my hands on the photos and video, I'll let you know.

Dana

[vxf111]

If it's any consolation, one of the FUGLIEST horses I have ever SEEN was a "fancy" hunter bred foal out of one of the stallions lauded on this thread. And it wasn't some random fluke where the stallion was bred to a crappy mare... this was a foal bred by the stallion owner out of his/her OWN mare (though I notice the website seems to skip over this foal and she's buried in some little blurb on a page several clicks in).

She's shrimpy (though the owner loves to brag that she's going to be 16.3. She was 15.0 at 3.5 years old and didn't seem to be showing any signs of going anywhere). In addition to being put together by committe, she had the nastiest temperment and was incredibly difficult to even handle on the ground. She's about 4 now and I hear she's unsound. Everytime I hear a brag about the stallion-- I think of her.

Just goes to show you... everyone's got different taste in terms of what they think is an ideal stallion and you never know what you're going to get. ;)

[CBoylen]

Don't forget Magical. I love the Magicals I've known. I think he's underused and we'd be seeing a lot more of them at the top of the game if he got the traffic some of these other names are getting. (I think some of them are way OVERused, but I'll be polite ;).)

[EquineLVR]

Not sure if these were mentioned:

Chaleon
Rio Grande (deceased but you can still get frozen)
More Than Luck
Gatsby
Concerto Grosso
Raffaello
Silver Lining (Landwerder)
Jupiter
Escudo II
Viva Voltaire
Pablo

A few from across the pond:
Cassini I
Escudo I
Burggraaf
Corland

[Equino]

Those of you who have seen Carbadino live: what are your impressions? I've only seen his video and a few clips. He has the most amazing jump, but I can't tell if he's weak behind or just his way of going. Seems a bit skimming and not deep, for lack of better description. He's not supposed to be the winner u/s, right? But wow, can he jump! And I think he's gorgeous.

I was just looking through the Stallion Issue and the ones that jumped out at me the most were Sir Caletto and Chaleon. But if I do breed my mare, I don't want a gray! And Westporte is a fabulous mover. His ad had two pics of offspring and they looked gorgeous.

Interesting you bring up Magical-I was talking to someone who bred to him twice and both her babies were amazing movers/jumpers but lacking in the mental department. Out of the same mare, who was a really good minded-jumper. Wonder what went wrong with her babies. She hasn't been bred again, so nothing to go by.

[Dana]

For those interested, I have photos of As Always, a short video of him at a show in Tyler this year, a couple of baby photos, etc. If you'd like to see them, please PM me.

Dana

[Neighland]

I love my 08 Black Tie colt, and 06 Corlando filly!!

Both are super correct, and very sweet...the Tie colt is a better mover however the Corlando filly jumps like a freak!!

Here is the Corlando filly, I've got to find a shrunk pic of the Tie colt!

[Neighland]

The Black Tie colt, shown at 3 months (excuse the poor body clip job!) and again at 5 or 6 months give or take.

[Windfall]

Another choice who is a beautiful hunter stallion, proven both in the ring himself, and through his foals, is Claim to Fame. Because he's not homozygous, he may throw a solid, or a pinto, but whichever it is, it's a lovely horse. He has a wonderful temperament and was ridden successfully in both the Professional Divisions and the 'Amateur Divisions...... I've seen him in person and can vouch for his temperament..........and he is consistantly throwing not only that wonderful temperament, but that gorgeous conformation, movement and jumping ability too!

[SSFLandon]

I just started a thread but, does anyone know about Prince Calmar. He is older now and stands in Canada. I have heard his babies have been quite nice. I may puchase a 4 yr. old so I'm curious opionions.

[Wishes R Horses]

Dana, You have a PM.:)

[SueL]

Don't forget Magical. I love the Magicals I've known. I think he's underused and we'd be seeing a lot more of them at the top of the game if he got the traffic some of these other names are getting. (I think some of them are way OVERused, but I'll be polite ;).)

Magical, yes indeed. Beautiful movers with an awesome jump. Lovely looking horses as well.

They need a good start because they are wicked smart (Carol once told me they have a "pony mind" LOL)

Donal has a Magical in the barn - just a three-year-old. Not big, but very, very fancy. Lovely mover, great jumper. He can handle a group lesson with aplomb. Really nice horse.

I have seen Magical up close and in person and he has as much presence as I have ever seen.

Chanda, what do you think of Mr. Magic (the pony stallion who is a grandson of Magical)

Sue

[CBoylen]

I would love to see Magical in person one day, I have not managed to get there.
Obviously I adore my Touch of Magic (Slate), and I'd love to eventually own or breed another one. I rode another Magical son, Milo, quite often, and his canter was equally as special as Slate's, so I think the stallion really can be counted on for a great canter and jump, as well as a lovely long neck.
I am not familiar with the pony stallion unfortunately, but I did meet some good pony people a couple months ago who said they had an extremely fancy Mr. Magic 2 year old. If I were into ponies I would definitely consider Mr. Magic or his offspring worth a look. ;)

[goodmorning]

Magical is an interesting stallion - I really like the mix of both his TB and Holst lines. CBoylen, since you own a Magical and have ridden at least one other, can you comment on any other conformational traits, in particular the hind-leg confo and back? Slate is lovely.

[CBoylen]

Hm. Well, Milo is HUGELY tall. As in, at least 17.3. (Slate is 16.2 1/2). They're both refined horses though in their body type, and the other Magicals I've seen have all been similarly light in bone and structure. They do have what I think are unusually lengthy necks (and really outstanding shoulders), but are not overly long through the back. Slate has good legs, but never really carries enough weight where he could strip. Milo's hind end is built longer and is a little too straight, IMO. This is Milo here: http://www.teresaramsay.com/details.php?gid=1127&sgid=&pid=51851. You can sort of see here the length of step and length of leg I was talking about, but the angle doesn't show his neck properly: http://www.teresaramsay.com/details.php?gid=1415&sgid=&pid=71889 .

[Limerick]

A Fine Romance would be my first choice. He stamps his get; I have a mare by him and she is to die for.

I've heard wonderful things about A Fine Romance and seen photos of some of his lovely, athletic babies. He is so athletic and versatile. I'd love to have a baby by him someday.

[oldenburger with fries and a cold beer]

I've heard wonderful things about A Fine Romance and seen photos of some of his lovely, athletic babies. He is so athletic and versatile. I'd love to have a baby by him someday.

WHOA!!! Is that physically possible??:lol:? Just kidding. I think he is gorgeous too!

[dbtoo]

Does anyone have pictures of an Apiro/TB baby? The ones on his website are gorgeous but they all seem to be out of WB mares.

[sixpoundfarm]

Does anyone have pictures of an Apiro/TB baby? The ones on his website are gorgeous but they all seem to be out of WB mares.
Apiro had a very small crop here last year, but I am sure there will be plenty of TB crosses of his to see this season.

[MandalayTraining]

Does anyone have pictures of an Apiro/TB baby? The ones on his website are gorgeous but they all seem to be out of WB mares.

A friend of mine has a colt by apiro out of a TB cross mare. Though she is RPSI she is built a little more like a thoroughbred and her colt turned out beautiful. If you go to Crestlinefarm.com and then go to the sales barn link, his name is Aston Martin.

[3Dogs]

most of the stallions mentioned don't have offspring OLD enough to know if they are going to be "fancy hunter stallions" - they very well COULD be but you don't know until their babies are in the ring showing!

As for Magical, I saw only one offspring (and I am sure not truly representative) but Penn Square could not be ridden by an amateur. Period. But, at least, the stallion has a number of babes in the ring and from what I read here, several have been very successful. Penn Square was not my favorite type but gosh knows, he did well with Carlton B.

If you look at the USEF under hunter sires, miserable as it may be, there is a list of the stallions that have sired "hunters" showing and winning. Could be just one superstar (since our data system is so lame we don't know more than what folks decide to put down and we don't capture the unrateds) - but it is what it is - a bit of data!

Here you go:

http://www.usef.org/_IFrames/pointsAwards/points/leadingSires.aspx?year=2008&viewCat=Hunter

Many of those listed in this thread would qualify as "up and coming" hunter sires, that's for sure.

[STF]

Puerto D'Azur has several babies competing in rated hunters now, you can see some here -
http://www.spindletopfarm.net/offspring.htm

[florida foxhunter]

This is a photo of Claim to Fame.........My son's Christmas present is to show me how to upload videos to u tube so I can send videos.......Hey' I'm old fashioned, and usually out on a horse......so technologically challenged!

[CBoylen]

As for Magical, I saw only one offspring (and I am sure not truly representative) but Penn Square could not be ridden by an amateur. Period. But, at least, the stallion has a number of babes in the ring and from what I read here, several have been very successful. Penn Square was not my favorite type but gosh knows, he did well with Carlton B.
.
Penn Square and Slate are actually full brothers. They aren't similar in type, since Penn Square is quite small. But I have a feeling they're pretty close in attitude; Slate is very sensitive to his environment, although usually quiet. They're out of a TB mare by Young Emperor, who my mother tells me produced many fancy, but famously nutty, hunters.

[SquishTheBunny]

Im not into breeding at all, my hunters are all track trash...but, I did go try one baby that I REALLY liked. The sire was RODERO, I have seen a few youngsters by him and they all have VERY nice movement, very quiet, and have a great slow jump.

He is a stallion for the RCMP, not sure where he stands now but there are a few 3-4 year olds who are absolutley stunning by him. He is not a really well known stallion, but his babies scream hunter and the ones I have seen are spectacular.

[Houston33]

I know he is mainly a dressage stallion, but I really like Contucci. He has a wonderful temperment and it is something he passes on to his foals. He is a wonderful mover as well. Here are two pictures of my 6 year old by Contucci.

http://www.csyoung.smugmug.com/gallery/3843528_3PYZj#222352941_TaK66-A-LB

http://csyoung.smugmug.com/gallery/3843563_W365W#222354033_Cx6pC-A-LB

[trafalgar]

Magical---he is gorgeous,and has thrown enough foals who can prove that he throws consistant talent and drop dead good looks. He is certainly one of the best and more affordable than many.

[arizonard]

I guess it really depends if we are talking about fancy hunter stallions as performance horses themselves, or as producers of the same quality. The names certainly do change for the most part.

[JenRose]

I am IN LOVE with my 18 month old Cabalito filly. Super fancy and a great mind. :cool:

My current ammy hunter is a fancy fellow that is an opinionated sensitive pain in the you know what! I love him dearly, but I wanted looks plus amateur friendly for my next one. I totally think this Cab filly will deliver. I am very excited about our future together.

I have also seen Shine (Alesi) go and was very impressed.

I am also an Apiro fan and am anxious to see how his babies do.

[vxf111]

I also love Contucci for the good looks, attitude, and brains-- but I knew a fair amount of young ones and I would say it is more unusual for them to have jumping ability. The ones I knew could not jump their way out of a wet paper bag, though they were lovely movers and easy to deal with. If you have a really, really stellar jumping mare-- then I'd take a chance, but I would not overall suggest him as a hunter sire. He does really throw prepotent type and great attitude though, hunter looks and personality-- just not so sure about hunter athleticism.

Houston, yours is adorable though! :)

[SidesaddleRider]

I agree with V, Contucci throws LOVELY movers, but of all the one's I've known, only 1 was any darn good at jumping more than a 2' fence, so on the whole I would not recommend him for siring a hunter unless you have a mare that is crazily athletic.

[Houston33]

Yes I would agree that the jumping ability that mine has is unusual coming from his sire Contucci...but if you are lucky enough to get that jumping ability from him plus his temperment and movement you have got a winner!

[vxf111]

Houston, no doubt your horse is super nice :):)

The Contuccis I knew were BORN broke. Literally, one day we just ponied them on the trail and then got on a rode them back. And that was it. No fuss, no muss. No steering either ;) but they were so pleasant and happy to work and took everything in stride. Incredible personality on ALL of them, from a mix of mares. All good movers, all looked JUST like him, all so easy to work with and so happy to work.

But encounter a tiny log on the ground on the trail?! Uh oh... ;);) Pray!

[nsm]

Ironman has been producing wonderful hunters and alot of stars on the line. They have super temperaments like their dad. Ironman has been one of the top Hunter Breeding sires, last year he was #1. So many of his hunters are so quiet they end up in the 3 foot divisions with their owners, and those divisions are not kept track of unfortunately. Below are 2 pictures of Ironman and some of his kids,

[nsm]

I will also mention Ironrule, a 3 year old son of Ironman out of a TB mare that was a terrific show horse. The mare also carries a Damascus topline. Rule is the Reserve Champion 3 year old this year for Hunter breeding. Approved BWP with an 87 for his jump and RPSI. Very fancy as a hunter but he has so much jump, eventually he will end up in the jumpers. He will offer breeders the best of both the TB and the warmblood worlds. Below are some pictures,

[sporthorsefilly]

I will second both Ironman and Ironrule. I may be slightly predjudice with and Ironman foal due in May (NOT FOR SALE!). Watch for Ironrule to be an exception sire of hunters, just like his daddy! He is the real deal!

Also will mention Jupiter, Alla Czar and Cardinal 846 all sired by Zeus!

And not to be overlooked are Cunningham and Carbadino, those Holsteiners can jump with such good form!

[hpfimports]

Look into the Danish stallion Crelido. He produces very typey hunter babies with great movement, jump and brains. His semen is sold in the US.

[goodmorning]

Look into the Danish stallion Crelido. He produces very typey hunter babies with great movement, jump and brains. His semen is sold in the US.

Do you know if people are having success with his frozen?

[WellsWorthFarm]

Isn't MapleSide MagicDancer by Magical? Wasn't he a spectacular large pony? and his brother Beau Rivage (sp?) a pony that kept on winning? Oh I mean, both dancer and rivage are still doing well in the pony division.

[Kaelurus]

Amour Parfait and Icarus de Carolina (both Selle Francais) produce very talented hunters. Parfait is deceased, but his semen is still available.

[oldenburger with fries and a cold beer]

Does anyone know the KWPN stallion Lancelot???? I ride one of his offspring in the hunters and am so impressed with him. The attitude and the movement factors are absolute 10, he literally comes out the same day after day. He has the most lovely expression and is so willing. A true babysitter at the age of 8. Curious, if there are more out there like him. I think Lancelot's sire was Voltaire.

[showjumpers66]

We only had 3 here in the US this year, but have a large foal crop coming in 2009. Of the 3 born this year, one was from a Palladio/TB mare, one was from a Cicero/TB mare and the third was from a Ukas/TB mare (Ukas is 1/2 TB, so this mare is 3/4 TB).

Does anyone have pictures of an Apiro/TB baby? The ones on his website are gorgeous but they all seem to be out of WB mares.

[QuadNFarm]

I am breeding to Paparazzo and Just the Best in 2009. I had an amazing Paparazzo colt in 2007 sold him @ 3months, did not breed the mare in 2007 so that she could get back to having an earlier foal and now have the same mare in foal to Paparazzo or a spring 2009 foal (hoping for a filly which I will keep). I am a huge fan of his and I was going to breed both my mares to Paparazzo again in 2009 but then I am so impressed with Just the Best and fell in love with him (he is on www.hunterstallionstobreed.com) so I changed one mare to him. Very excited!:)

[Fred]

I've heard wonderful things about A Fine Romance and seen photos of some of his lovely, athletic babies. He is so athletic and versatile. I'd love to have a baby by him someday.

Thank you Bethe, and Limerick.
I'd love for you to have an A Fine Romance baby some day too, Lim.

[ponymom64]

Thank you Bethe, and Limerick.
I'd love for you to have an A Fine Romance baby some day too, Lim.

I think everyone would love to have an AFR baby! I know I would, too! ;)

[Fred]

I think everyone would love to have an AFR baby! I know I would, too! ;)

thank you Ponymom. I have one in mind for you!
;)

[DRSsporthorses]

Does anyone know the KWPN stallion Lancelot???? I ride one of his offspring in the hunters and am so impressed with him. The attitude and the movement factors are absolute 10, he literally comes out the same day after day. He has the most lovely expression and is so willing. A true babysitter at the age of 8. Curious, if there are more out there like him. I think Lancelot's sire was Voltaire.

Yes I know this stallion. He is currently standing at Kennedy Equine Centre in County Kerry, Ireland. He is the sire of Todd Minikus' GP horse Pavarotti. He is a Voltaire son, out of a preferent Nimmerdor mare.

Here is the link: http://www.kennedyequinecentre.com/page24Lancelot.htm

He is just lovely! I saw him last spring when I had sent a mare to him but she failed to conceive (of course, the only mare that season that didn't take...). I have another mare to be bred to him spring 2009.

He is a super horse and is very well known for producing super temperments and sane, rideable progeny. He is fully approved KWPN and ISH, and has a licensed stallion son in Scandinavia by the name of Tsjakka, and quite a few very nice quality jumper progeny in Europe.

Most of his older progeny were bred in the Netherlands and many have been exported to the US. He seems to be producing dual-purpose horses (quality jumpers and very nice A-type hunters). His first Irish-bred crop are foals of 2008. Of the ones I have seen, they are leggy foals with solid toplines, good shoulders and nice suspension. He is being shown periodically in Ireland by an amateur rider. It remains to be seen how he will cross with the heavier, Irish RID-type mares that are so common as he can throw a heavier type of horse, but he has done particularly well with mares of a bit of blood.

Only downside of the stallion is he doesn't freeze well so can only be used by chilled semen.

Hope this helps!!

[Twinkletozzz]

I love Don Alfredo, Paparazzo, Popeye K, Westporte, Escapade, Just the Best (and his son if he's standing). Depends upon the mare, of course, but these guys are very very reliable sires. Good luck.

[Oakmont Sporthorses]

I'm looking at breeding to Magic Darco, who did quite good in the 4' last year (he's a gelding now, but still available frozen semen) and is a lovely mover with a fantastic temperament. He's beautifully bred, by Darco x Ramiro Z, and was a GP showjumper in England before he was imported and gelded.

[3Dogs]

I forgot to mention Corlando. He died this year but I have a son of his that is hands down the most pliable two year old I have ever known. Now, he won't win a hack class, but my long ago trainer DG says he is meeting a lot of Corlandos in the hunter ring. Who knew? I bought this boy as a jumper prospect. We shall see - just had to comment that his personality is A-1 for an amateur. And if he jumps a bit like Dad, well, yummm!!



I think it is almost impossible to make the decision about hunters without knowing the mare.....I see "hunters" that are not by stallions I would ever had thought would produce hunters, but then, mares must make the difference. Really a black box in many respects! And with our pathetic tracking - sigh

[EllenAspen]

We are going to go with Carbardino this year...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-wL0G0-wBY

I mean...what's not to like :yes:

[Molly99]

After skimming this, I can't be no one has mentioned Galatois. As a stallion he is one of the most mild mannered ones I have ever been around. Great to ride. Did well with the pros and the amateurs.

His babies can be great when bred to a quality mare. I have seen a few that were tough, but turned out great with the right training. Those can take some time, but were worth it in the end. He is also turning out to be a great pony stallion. He is my first choice for a TB mare. That cross seems to work well with him IMO.

I also love the Magical babies I have been around. I rode Chanda's Slate when he was a 4 year old once and you just had a great feeling. I think Penn Square might have been a product of his environment :) more than his breeding. I always wondered what he would have been like if he landed with someone else early on.

[nwhorsetrainer]

After reading some of the comments about Westporte I think a few things need to be clarified. Westporte was no more difficult than any other top hunter to prepare for the ring and his jump was not difficult to create. The most important thing about Westporte's foals is that he is throwing his movement and his topline. The rest is up to good training as we all know.

[TWF]

I think it is almost impossible to make the decision about hunters without knowing the mare.....I see "hunters" that are not by stallions I would ever had thought would produce hunters, but then, mares must make the difference. Really a black box in many respects! And with our pathetic tracking - sigh


Ditto on the mares...3Dogs......Our greatest resource lost! Some have families of impressive show records "aged out" of the NGB. As for the producers, the good ones are usually only known by those on the rail as they show with foals or IF their young horse's pedigree is announced.
No record keeping for what we have been producing for decades...A disgrace to US breeding.
:cry::(

[Fancy That]

Noble Houston

Check out this FULL TB 3 Year old Filly !!:)

http://www.worldwideequine.net/images/NH/Abby%20KY%2008-2.jpg

http://www.worldwideequine.net/images/NH/Abby%20ISROLD.jpg
http://www.worldwideequine.net/images/NH/Abby%20KY%2008-3.jpg

Another Full TB gelding by Noble Houston- first year showing with an A/A
http://www.worldwideequine.net/images/NH/Jeff%20Marshall.jpg

Yearling Filly By Noble Houston out of AQHA mare
http://www.worldwideequine.net/images/NH/Lickliter%20yearling%202.jpg

and a coming 2 year old colt out of an APHA mare
http://www.worldwideequine.net/images/NH/Tex%205-9-08-5.jpg

OMG - I'm picking my jaw up off the keyboard, so it's hard to type :)

THIS is the kind of TB I love! Absolutely stunning. Love the topline, substance, smooth curving lines. Just amazing. I don't think I've seen a TB (never mind filly) with such beautiful lines.

So many TBs are gangly and angular, with not a smooth curve to be found anywhere. Lovely lovely horses!!

[fish]

Just got home from my lst Cunningham baby's first full division at an A show, ( his 3rd show all told since HB as a 2 year old). He was champion Hopeful Hunter at Raleigh. Apparently he's the first and only Cunningham offspring to show on the A circuit thus far. I sure hope the photographer got some good pictures!

[DallasES]

We have an All The Gold 5 year old at my barn that is AMAZING. He has the best personality and steps over a 3 ft course. 10+ mover. He will do the A/O's and higher with no problem.

We also have a 4 year old by Sir Caletto that is fabulous. He is a tall gray that is about 17h now, and I have no idea how big he will get... He has not quite grown a brain yet, but he is super sweet. :)

[Party Rose]

Hoo-Hoo FISH :D :D :D

[Samotis]

Fish: Thats so exciting! Congrats! You will have to post pictures! Is he 5 now?

I really like Cunningham. One of the only reasons I picked Roc USA over him was because I saw a lot of Rocs offspring, where it was difficult to find anything about Cunningham.

I will have to look up Noble Houston. Those are some beautiful babies.

[VirginiaBred]

I am breeding to Paparazzo and Just the Best in 2009. I had an amazing Paparazzo colt in 2007 sold him @ 3months, did not breed the mare in 2007 so that she could get back to having an earlier foal and now have the same mare in foal to Paparazzo or a spring 2009 foal (hoping for a filly which I will keep). I am a huge fan of his and I was going to breed both my mares to Paparazzo again in 2009 but then I am so impressed with Just the Best and fell in love with him (he is on www.hunterstallionstobreed.com (http://www.hunterstallionstobreed.com)) so I changed one mare to him. Very excited!:)


Woo Hoo! You won't be sorry for the switch! My Just The Best is due April 20th!!!!!

[TwinGates]

I agree with V, Contucci throws LOVELY movers, but of all the one's I've known, only 1 was any darn good at jumping more than a 2' fence, so on the whole I would not recommend him for siring a hunter unless you have a mare that is crazily athletic.

Hmmmmmm, have to disagree. Helmut Schrant has a very good coming 7yo. stallion by Contucci that's winning virtually everything he enters ('08 was their first year together & believe they competed Level 4 & 5 Jumpers). Conrad is fast, quick and careful. An AA from another major H/J barn - who couldn't find anything he could ride for a certain AA class at the barn where he boards/trains - borrowed Conrad and won the class entered. http://www.showplaceproductions.com/sms/display_results_horse.php?horse_no=1058&hsn=7&class_no=596

[ancientoaks]

IRONMAN IRONMAN IRONMAN....it doesn't get any better than this, IMO..the following colts are out of two totally different mares..Both GOV Main book, but totally different breeds..

IronStone
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v481/ancientoaks/ironstonemac907sideviewperfxxxxx.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v481/ancientoaks/ironstonemacheadcropresize.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v481/ancientoaks/ironstonejumping2408.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v481/ancientoaks/ironstoneclvtrotleftperfxxxx.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v481/ancientoaks/ironstoneclvhunttrotclassxx.jpg



IronJet
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v481/ancientoaks/ironjet817trotleftsidehillextx.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v481/ancientoaks/ironjetfullsideperfect6ADx.jpg

[TatteredDaydreamer]

I agree that the Magical babies are all fancy fancy, but the ones I've ridden have also been quite nutty. It could be that they are just very sensitive, and by the time I got to them they had been "ruined" so to speak, but I wouldn't suggest them for ammy's. Just my experiences.

[genevieveg17]

Redwine is fancy. He is showing at Thermal right now with John French. He was champion in the baby greens. I think he won three classes over fences and was second in the hack.

[baywithchrome2]

I'm horribly biased as he's the son of my favorite mare, but IMHO they don't come any fancier than Balt'Amour right out of the box....black, 4 white socks, the coolest star and a fabulous jump. He's scheduled to start showing with Nicole Shahinian-Simpson down in Florida sometime in March and his first babies arrive this spring.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3201/3284850793_a302332606.jpg

[SilverBalls]

There are so many good ones out there!

[Henk]

Hello,

Read something on this forum about the Dutch stallion Lancelot.

We, in The Netherlands, have a descendant from Lancelot, a gelding, named Wolfraam. 6 years now (april 2003). Dark brown, hight 1m75 now, good character, little bit naughty, intelligent, slim, long legs, looks very sportive. Fast and agile. Jumps (and likes it) like *ell. Because he is so tall & long legs, we train him very carefully. Dressage is also perfect with him, but we think he feels a bit bored during dressage. It is a horse for jumping action. High potential. :lol:
Pedigree see:

http://www.paardenfokken.nl/pedigree.php?horseid=249696

Anyone who likes to see a recent picture of him, we will send it, with pleasure.
It's our Boy !

Best regards,

Henk

Yes I know this stallion. He is currently standing at Kennedy Equine Centre in County Kerry, Ireland. He is the sire of Todd Minikus' GP horse Pavarotti. He is a Voltaire son, out of a preferent Nimmerdor mare.

Here is the link: http://www.kennedyequinecentre.com/page24Lancelot.htm

He is just lovely! I saw him last spring when I had sent a mare to him but she failed to conceive (of course, the only mare that season that didn't take...). I have another mare to be bred to him spring 2009.

He is a super horse and is very well known for producing super temperments and sane, rideable progeny. He is fully approved KWPN and ISH, and has a licensed stallion son in Scandinavia by the name of Tsjakka, and quite a few very nice quality jumper progeny in Europe.

Most of his older progeny were bred in the Netherlands and many have been exported to the US. He seems to be producing dual-purpose horses (quality jumpers and very nice A-type hunters). His first Irish-bred crop are foals of 2008. Of the ones I have seen, they are leggy foals with solid toplines, good shoulders and nice suspension. He is being shown periodically in Ireland by an amateur rider. It remains to be seen how he will cross with the heavier, Irish RID-type mares that are so common as he can throw a heavier type of horse, but he has done particularly well with mares of a bit of blood.

Only downside of the stallion is he doesn't freeze well so can only be used by chilled semen.

Hope this helps!!

[GallopGirl]

Here's my Shine baby... He's only 5 years old, started under saddle about 6 months ago:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpkqISwI-8o

I literally just bought him this week, but from what I've seen and heard, great mind, super easy, smart, fast learner, etc. It was only when I bought this guy that I started looking at Shine.. wow... super flashy stallion, and impressive that he's being shown by an ammie.

[Sugarbrook]

I do ponies, but have looked and LOVE Shine. Good choice.

[Mardi]

My main goal it to have some awesome foals that are in demand, and sell young. I have had great luck the last 2 yrs.

So I wonder how the OP is doing....since this thread started in December !

[Alterrain]

ICON!

http://www.rickosteen.com/photocart/index.php?do=photocart&viewImage=122797

totally drool-worthy :eek:

[showjumpers66]

The foals are starting to trickle in. Most of the pictures are day old pictures, so we will update them as the new pictures arrive. http://www.silvercreeksporthorses.com/apiroprogeny.html Next week, I'll divide up the foal pictures by WB mothers & TB mothers, but the last 3 are out of TB mothers as well as Shauna Campbell's colt. We have 3 Apiro x TB foals coming this year, but they are not here yet.

Does anyone have pictures of an Apiro/TB baby? The ones on his website are gorgeous but they all seem to be out of WB mares.

[virtus02]

Definitely look into Tish Quirk's stallions!