Drop Noseband

[SueCoo2]

I'm reading Reiner Klimke's "Training The Young Horse" and I've noticed in all the pictures (beautiful horses by the way) that all the horses are being ridden in drop nosebands. Can someone tell me exactly what they do and why they are popular in the UK and Europe but no so much here? TIA :yes:

[Bravestrom]

We have a german trainer - actually, he is the trainer for our coach and I also take clinics with him - anyway we have converted from flash nosebands to drop nosebands and have found a great difference in the horse's acceptance of the bit and forward movement.

[Dressage+Jumping]

Hi, I'v arrived from England :) It is a noseband that fits low on the nose, there is a strap just above the chin, on the chin grove and the whole thing fits below the bit. Very popular with pony riders as it gives a bit more cotrol due to the face we can not have a double. Hope this helps!

[SueCoo2]

Both responses were very helpful (keep 'em coming), thank you! :D

[siegi b.]

In the end it's mostly a fashion/trend issue..... dropped nose bands were "in" years ago and then gave way to the flash. There is a difference in using them, however it tends to get lost with the current fashion/trend.

[Equus_girl]

Interesting.
I am reading The Complete Book of Bits & Bitting by Elwyn Hartley Edwards and he states that dropped nosebands were popular in the past but not anymore and he was not happy about them at all.

[goeslikestink]

read this link and scroll down to nosebands has working diagrams of bits bridles and nosebands
http://www.sustainabledressage.com/tack/bridle.php#kineton

[Mallard]

I have my large pony in a drop.
He was in a plain cavesson but was starting to open his mouth a bit...nothing too major, but I wanted to nip this habit.

I tried a flash, but his face is small and I couldn't get it to fit right. He was not happy about it either.
I finally found an adjustable drop ... it adjusts on top of the nose, as well as under the chin. We don't do it up tight at all, but it just reminds him to keep his mouth shut.

You do need to make sure they fit perfectly, otherwise it will get caught in the bit.

[goeslikestink]

and op remember that drop nosebands are one of the most severe asthey owrk on the bridge of the nose and in the worng hands or fitted wrongly can cuase damage

[SueCoo2]

This is all very helpful, and GLS I will be very careful with my hands when using it. thanks again! :D

[magnum]

My old time German trainer insists on starting all youngsters in drops. He instructed me to never adjust them too tightly, and to ensure that they are not so low that they hit the cartilage and interfere with the breathing. He feels all youngsters go better in them.

I do use them because of his advise .... but haven't really noticed a difference in the way that youngsters go in a drop vs. a flash.

I DO also like having ONE buckle to attach (the drop) vs. two (the flash), esp, this time of year when leather gets so cold and stiff!

Magnum

[slc2]

Actually several trainers I've worked with recommend the dropped noseband instead of the flash for a horse that is a bad puller. The difference being the dropped noseband is more severe and so gives more control. And I actually think there is a difference because it is at less of an angle. I switched one from a flash to a snaffle and was very surprised at the amount of difference.

[J-Lu]

Hey SueCoo2,

Are you contemplating putting your gal in a dropped noseband?

J-Lu

[slc2]

My little pony doesn't need anything more than a silken thread.

[J-Lu]

My little pony doesn't need anything more than a silken thread.

How does this fit into the conversation? What an oddly cryptic post. Are you OK?

[slc2]

Sure, are you ok? Why do you find it cryptic? It's odd that you find it odd. Are you ok?

:lol:

just waiting for the usual anti flash rant or pro dropped noseband rant or pro indian rawhide halter and banana flavored gumby bit rant.

by the way, the book probably features many horses in dropped nosebands because they're older pictures when more people were using them more over there.

[J-Lu]

Idiot. I board with SueCoo2. We know each other very well.

Where is this deteriorating into "my tack is better than your tack" or "my precious doesn't need a flash or a dropped noseband...". I asked if you're OK because you make zero sense. As usual.

Edited to add: Your edits are fast. Stick with your original post, slc. If you need to change your original posts, don't post in the first place.

[ironbessflint]

The dropped noseband prevents the crossing of the jaw, which some young horses are prone to doing. Klimke and plenty of others started all young horses in a drop, so they never learned to cross their jaw. SRS uses them on young horses as well.

[Arathita]

I saw "slick's" original reply. She's certainly fast with the backpedaling edits these days! Glad you quoted her or she'd have edited the wierd post about the silken thread, too.

[goeslikestink]

I'm reading Reiner Klimke's "Training The Young Horse" and I've noticed in all the pictures (beautiful horses by the way) that all the horses are being ridden in drop nosebands. Can someone tell me exactly what they do and why they are popular in the UK and Europe but no so much here? TIA :yes:

look at this to just as info for you and nothing more then you can connect it with the other link i send you ok dokey
check out the metherdith linkk 1st
then read the others as guide as this will help you to help your horse if hes young and in trianing
suecoo2 2 things the trot and the half halts stride are you best mates
try not to look dwon but look up and in between neddies ears- that keeps you focus and him and also
where you look you hands will follow- where you hands go the horse goes to -- ok dokey x
http://www.chronicleforums.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=178116

[Janet]

I prefer a dropped noseband to a flash (or figure 8) for a very practical reason.

I can adjust the POSITION independnantly of the TIGHTNESS.

In particular, I can adjust a drop so it sits very high on the nose and chin, but is quite loose.

I can't do that with a flash- if I make it loose, it HAS to sit low.