An Attire Question, please....

[Reds-n-Greys]

I'm old school, I admit it, heck, I'm just old! :D

Anyway, yesterday I was looking at the portrait for a former MFH. I was surprized to see the stock pin painted vertically. I was always taught that the pin should be horizontal, if for no other reason than to prevent it from sticking you in the chin if it became unpinned. Is there a " new school" rule for stock pins? Am I really a dinosaur?

Thanks!

[JSwan]

Vertical denotes professional staff. Ribbons down signifies professional (I noticed the new helmets come with ribbons down - I guess no one bothers to earn anything anymore. )

Not sure why a MFH would be a "professional" - maybe if the MFH was also a paid huntsman?

[Gloria]

I purchased a Charles Owen helmet on eBay and when it arrived, I noticed that the ribbon points down. Any suggestion what to do about it? Leave it alone? By the way, I'm definitely Not professional... Gloria

[JSwan]

I overheard some folks saying the same thing - is it all helmets or just the CO? I just have the skullcap with a nylon cover on it. (not for hunting - it's my regular helmet for daily riding)

I think they tacked them up with a glue of some sort. Like that craft glue that you use with a glue gun. But I'd experiment on a scrap of fabric before doing that to a new helmet!

I'm seeing a lot of weird stuff. Brown tops on boots, ribbons down, someone wanted to come hunting just so she could wear the "red coat like the Olympic team"... the world has gone mad. :lol:

[Painted Wings]

I took a needle and thread and just tacked a couple of stiches in my Chales Owen to put the ribbons up. I've heard of people using super glue or graft clue or just tucking them up. There are many ways you can do it.

[Reds-n-Greys]

Ah, thank you for the explanation. I doubt this person was professional, but now I at least know it was not yet artistic license!

[Beverley]

Actually, the vertical versus horizontal pin arguments have been going on for as long as I've been hunting, at least. I was taught- horizontal, period, whether amateur or professional.

If you have a helmet w/ribbons down, a bit of glue will do the trick I think.

[Romany]

If you wear a crash helmet, with a velvet silk, there aren't any ribbons to confuse the fashion police at all! May give them an attack of the vapours, though, so be wary.

For true sartorial perfection, however, nothing could possibly top these boots - patent tops, be d@mned!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RIDING-BOOTS-DE-NIRO-SIZE-4-PAT-LEATHER-CRYSTALS-LOOK_W0QQitemZ260324580536QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Sp orting_Goods_Athletic_Shoes_ET?hash=item2603245805 36&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1301%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C 240%3A1318

[JSwan]

Actually, the vertical versus horizontal pin arguments have been going on for as long as I've been hunting, at least. I was taught- horizontal, period, whether amateur or professional.

If you have a helmet w/ribbons down, a bit of glue will do the trick I think.

I place my stock pin at an angle - just to mess with people. ;):lol:

[SteeleRdr]

If you wear a crash helmet, with a velvet silk, there aren't any ribbons to confuse the fashion police at all! May give them an attack of the vapours, though, so be wary.

For true sartorial perfection, however, nothing could possibly top these boots - patent tops, be d@mned!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RIDING-BOOTS-DE-NIRO-SIZE-4-PAT-LEATHER-CRYSTALS-LOOK_W0QQitemZ260324580536QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Sp orting_Goods_Athletic_Shoes_ET?hash=item2603245805 36&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1301%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C 240%3A1318

Oh good lord!

[Reds-n-Greys]

I place my stock pin at an angle - just to mess with people. ;):lol:


Sooo, that makes you a semi-professional? :winkgrin:

[SidesaddleRider]

For true sartorial perfection, however, nothing could possibly top these boots - patent tops, be d@mned!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RIDING-BOOTS-DE-NIRO-SIZE-4-PAT-LEATHER-CRYSTALS-LOOK_W0QQitemZ260324580536QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Sp orting_Goods_Athletic_Shoes_ET?hash=item2603245805 36&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1301%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C 240%3A1318

They look like the Joker decided to have a pair of riding boots made. Ugh.

I can't quit looking at them, they are so bad. Way to ruin what could have been a very good pair of boots.

[JSwan]

For true sartorial perfection, however, nothing could possibly top these boots - patent tops, be d@mned!
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Hey - a little warning would have been nice!! Those things are going to give me nightmares.

So what are these? I'm thinking a jumper/dressage/drag queen kind of theme.

[Little Valkyrie]

I place my stock pin at an angle - just to mess with people. ;):lol:

My stock pin is usually on an angle because no matter how many times I try (and usually draw blood) I cannot get the damn thing straight. I generally spend about 10 minutes in front of the mirror trying to get it perfectly level (that will be my billion $ invention- a tiny little level to measure the perfect horizontalness of your stock pin) :D

Maybe instead of drag queen, those boots were meant for members of drag hunts with colors ;) :lol:

[Romany]

Hey - a little warning would have been nice!! Those things are going to give me nightmares.

So what are these? I'm thinking a jumper/dressage/drag queen kind of theme.


I'm guessing they had some leftover scraps of patent, and a new apprentice who fancied himself a bit of an arteest with the sewing machine, and they all thought, well, why not - some sucker will buy them, for sure! :lol:

[Good Old Sledge]

Along with the rules for professional v. amateur, there are also rules for those MFHs who hunt their own hounds versus having a Huntsman. That may have something to do with the relative verticality of the stock pin.

[wateryglen]

Relative Verticality!!!???!!!!
Apprentice Arteests?!!!!
Perfect horizontalness!!!???
Drag queens wearing boots??!!!

:eek::eek::eek::eek:

I think I'm going to faint!! :uhoh:

And I agree....we SHOULD have had some warning on this!! :mad:

[Romany]

So I gather you don't like them much, then, WG? (I do kinda like them myself, I have to admit!)

[wateryglen]

You got it Romany! Mind you, WG would definitely wear hunt look-a-like boots out in the world with say...a nice wool skirt! But I'd probably avoid the patent leather because of the reflection issues....you remember reflection issues don't you?!!! :D:lol:
Always the fashionista...I bear no grudges against hunt wannabe dressing! We've all been there....or are there....or will be there.....or want to be there more!! :winkgrin: There's a lotta that here in the Wash. DC area ya know! Hunt Wannabe Dressing capitol of the world!!!

[Elghund2]

The best hunt wannabe I ever saw was a housing developer rep. I was with LHW and we were on a run across a farm we had hunted for years. All of a sudden this big SUV comes across the field with its horn blaring. The field stops and out steps a woman in tall black boots, white britches and a scarlet coat. She was the rep for the developer who had bought the farm. She told us we couldn't hunt across their land anymore. It would be disturbing to the people who might buy plots their.

Of course, they advertised the whole hunt country thing and used pictures of KHW on their web site.

[Jennifer Alcott]

Hey - a little warning would have been nice!! Those things are going to give me nightmares.



I have to admit...I like them! But then again, I do have a thing for bling, and I'm just getting too old to give a fig about what others think of my fashion sense (or LACK thereof).

But I would never dream of wearing them in the hunt field, or at a rated show. A schooling show...perhaps. A trail ride--DEFINITELY!

I should feel ashamed and embarrassed for liking them, but I don't. I can't even muster up the dignity to feel sheepish about it! :D

[Romany]

You're all so right, I suppose. Best to play it safe, and stick with boots that are a smidge more discreet, like these tasteful specimins:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/John-Whitaker-De-Niro-Italian-Crystal-Boot-with-patent_W0QQitemZ380081985183QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_ Sporting_Goods_Athletic_Shoes_ET?hash=item38008198 5183&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A3%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318

Subtle, yet ostantatious. :lol:


Watery glen - didn't your mother always warn you to wear clean undies?!

[wateryglen]

Uh yeah! But she also told me to wear white cotton granny panties too! And some other things.....

OK so I admit; I kinda like these....I could see them in a dressage ring for sure. Lets send them over to the DQ's and get THEIR feedback on their board. . I dare ya! They'd match the rhinestone stirrup irons really well don'tyathink!?
On the down side; that bling would draw attention to our foxhunting big calves....big calves that are pure muscle of course! :winkgrin:

[Romany]

On the down side; that bling would draw attention to our foxhunting big calves....big calves that are pure muscle of course! :winkgrin:

Uh - shapely, I think SHAPELY is the word you meant to use, not big, right? ;)

[Tantivy1]

[QUOTE=Beverley;3701194]Actually, the vertical versus horizontal pin arguments have been going on for as long as I've been hunting, at least. I was taught- horizontal, period, whether amateur or professional.[QUOTE]

But if I do that my fox head is then placed SIDEWAYS, like he is napping, can't have him doing that! :)

And if the reply is to use a plain pin, well, the offending pin was purchased, where else? ENGLAND

So that tells me some Brits have been pinning their stock pins vertically all these many years!

Me thinks some investigating is in order!

[Beverley]

But if I do that my fox head is then placed SIDEWAYS, like he is napping, can't have him doing that! :)

And if the reply is to use a plain pin, well, the offending pin was purchased, where else? ENGLAND

So that tells me some Brits have been pinning their stock pins vertically all these many years!

Me thinks some investigating is in order!

Ah, well, MY fox head is awake and alert when the pin is horizontal! And he came from Ireland, a thank-you some years back from someone who borrowed my scarlet coat for a season of whipping in. But a huntsman I whipped in to, who spent some time in Ireland, always put her plain pin vertical.

I think JSwan has it right- let's just mess with people.:)