Winter riding apparel: What's warmer?

[LookinSouth]

so I have considered buying a pair of full chaps to wear over my jeans for extra warmth and wind protection while out riding in the winter months. I currently own a few pairs of fleece lined breeches and the tall insulated Ariat boots but I only wear these when it is extremely cold ( like below 30).
I'd say on average the winter temps around here hover between 35-45. I don't really need to wear my fleece breeches and tall boots for those temps but I would like a little extra warmth and protection from the wind.

Will full chaps do the trick?? Or should I stick to the ugly fleece breeches:)

[Jazzy Lady]

Grab a pair of silk long undies to put under your breeches.

I never wear winter breeches or my full chaps unless I'm just hacking. I just put long underwear under whatever breeches I'm going to wear.

It works well, keeps you warm. And where I live, it gets COLD!!!!!! The place I board at is an open 100 acres and the wind whips across it something fierce.

[Highflyer]

I wear jeans and full chaps (plus long johns) whenever it's below freezing. Today it was about 25 with the windchill, so I was glad for the extra layer. It was so cold when I went to jog on the road, the bridges were still coated with ice--my boy slid across with me swearing and praying. Thank god he's barefoot and surefooted.

[ss3777]

I live in upstate NY, just west of the Berkshires; where it gets really cold for a long time!!! I love my full chaps in the winter, I think it cuts the wind better then anything. When it is really cold I wear the long undies, polar fleece riding pants and the full chaps. I also love the hand and feet warmers. I hate to be cold!! good luck!

[yellowbritches]

I typically do what Jazzy does (silk long johns and my normal britches), occasionally break out the fugly fleece lined britches. Today, however, I wore my full chaps with jeans and silkies (I'm a wimp), and was pretty snuggly warm, even with standing in the ring teaching. My feet were the first to get cold and the worst of the cold, too. I still prefer britches, but my half chaps are getting repaired, so I'm stuck with my full chaps until I go out of town in a few days.

[LookinSouth]

thanks for the suggestions! I have never owned a pair of full chaps so I wasn't sure how warm they would be. My husband thought they would work well since he wears full chaps on his motorcylce and says they break the wind significantly.
I prefer to ride in my jeans. I own several pairs of jeans that I chose specifically for riding that have just the right amount stretch. If I could continue to wear those with the full chaps over them for most of the winter and stay warm I'd be pleased as punch! I really only wear breeches for clinics/shows/hunting.

I'll have to pick up a pair of silk long johns for the extra cold days.....or just resort to the ugly fleece breeches...I'm always warm in them.

[EventerAJ]

Another vote for chaps. No indoor here, and 5+ horses to ride daily all winter long. I'm comfy in jeans & chaps until about 35, then I add a layer beneath jeans (often just a pair of old breeches). The full-grain chaps block wind, and give a little bit of "stick" helpful on those chilly blustery days when young horses perform airs above the ground. ;) They're also quite water-resistant... I stay dry for the first 3 rides in steady downpour, then they get a little soggy. (I must say, though, the dampness increases the grip!)

I much prefer half chaps for "real effective" riding; I can't move as freely in full chaps (too "sticky" and bulky). However, I also can't move well when I'm frozen stiff. ;) For serious flat and jumping schools, I tough it out...but for anything else (hacks, trots, gallops) I'm toasty warm in jeans and chaps. I wear mine almost all day long, every day in winter, for the last 3 years, and they hold up very well... much more than any pair of breeches! Actually my chaps were abandoned at the barn by someone else... no one claimed them, so I used them and fell in love! I wouldn't shell out the $$ for customs, but when these die, I'll definitely buy another pair of smooth leather chaps. :)

[mkevent]

If you can find polarfleece breeches with wind resistant coating or materials, they will stay toasty,too. I find chaps too restrictive, but then I don't ride when the ground is frozen-which luckily doesn't usually happen more than 2-3 days in a row down in Southern NJ. I think some companies are now making wind resistant fleece so that may be worth looking into if you find that you don't care for full chaps. That being said, nothing does block the wind like leather chaps-maybe you could borrow a pair to try out before investing in them.

[Viva]

Okay, you guys who are saying that "extremely cold" is below 30, I taught lessons from 8:30 to 4:30 today in 19 degree weather, about 10 with the wind chill...who the f)(*&^ moved January to November???????
We ride here (Vermont, Champlain Valley--lake wind, winter until May) in whatever the hell keeps us warm...on a day like today, it's long underwear (silk doesn't wick as well as microfiber), fleece breeches and chaps, foot warmers in the winter paddock boots if there are more than 3 horses to ride or if I'm hacking. The nice thing about chaps is that they block the wind. I find that the tall winter riding boots aren't usually tall enough, and they don't offer much ankle support, which is a big problem when jumping.
The upside of all of this is that in April or early May, several people invariably ask me if I've lost a lot of weight! :D And yeah, I realize that anyone from Canada, Minnesota or Montana can beat my cold stories, so you have my undying respect. If I look like the Michelin Man I can't even imagine how you guys even move around!

Not to hijack the thread, but while we're on the subject, I'm looking for a new pair of winter gloves...any suggestions?

[Jazzy Lady]

Okay... yes, I'm from Canada and can beat the cold stories. I did hill trots today in a foot of snow. In NOVEMBER! Our pipes in the bathroom in the barn already have frozen... In NOVEMBER!!!! YIKES!

For gloves, I find a nice deer skin with a lining are the warmest thing. You don't want super tight ones because the circulation isn't great.

[billiebob]

Full chaps are freaking AWESOME. I don't even mind that I can't walk in them because they give you so much grip. I can't tell you if they're warmer than fleece breeches because I honestly don't remember, but I like riding in them more than in insulated boots. The boots are always too short for me and get caught on the flap of the saddle, which I know can't be a good thing!!!

And as far as gloves, I too like deerskin with a thin lining except when using two reins. That's quite a bit of bulk. However, for barn chores they can't be beat!

[kdow]

Not to hijack the thread, but while we're on the subject, I'm looking for a new pair of winter gloves...any suggestions?

I was just going to add this. :)

For leg warmth in general in the winter, I find a pair of rain pants over top of whatever I'm wearing anyway (jeans, sweatpants, breeches, etc.) tends to add quite a lot of warmth just by blocking the wind. I haven't specifically tried riding in the ones I have, but I think I've seen something similar actually intended FOR riding- and the benefit to them (over some of the super-duper winter riding pants) is that you can use them other times of year also, just by varying the layers underneath.

(I'd imagine long underwear + fleece/heavyweight breeches + rain paints would be pretty toasty.)

[yventer]

Best warm breeches: Tropical Rider Toasties. They come in tan for shows, too! Choice of Deerskin or Clarino full-seat or knee-patch. They last practically FOREVER!

Best warm feet: insulated boots help, as do thicker socks. But make sure the socks don't make the boots *tight*. That decreases the insulation! Another GREAT help is fleece-lined stirrup covers. These look like the front of fleece slippers and are attached to your stirrups, so that when your foot is in the stirrup they provide an *enormous* amount of warming insulation!

Best warm head: Get a polar-fleece balaclava designed for bikers or skiiers. They'll be thinner where the helmet would go, and nice and warm over your ears, lower face and neck.

Best warm hands: Buy regular or "winter" gloves at least one full size above what you'd normally wear. Then buy some "magic-knit" fits-all gloves. Wear the magic gloves under the too-large regular gloves. Bingo presto: warm fingers at K-Mart prices!

There's more, but I must go to bed as I teach in the AM!

[LookinSouth]

Okay, you guys who are saying that "extremely cold" is below 30, I taught lessons from 8:30 to 4:30 today in 19 degree weather, about 10 with the wind chill...who the f)(*&^ moved January to November???????



Well it wasn't exactly warm here in CT either Sat. High of 27 with 30mph winds made it nearly impossible to ride outside. The footing is rock hard and my truck is out of commission for the weekend so no going to the indoor. I didn't ride and I ordinarily would NOT ride outside in such weather:) When I say extremely cold, I mean for outside riding in the woods, fields etc...not in some toasty indoor:winkgrin: I can ride in the indoor when it's 10 degrees out and be peeling the layers off...

If it's below 35, especially with a windchill, I have the gear for super duper cold weather riding outside ( I it need for barn work) but unless there a nice layer of snow on the ground I refuse to ride my horse in rock hard footing. So needless to say the ugly cold weather riding wear doesn't get much use and I really think a pair of full chaps would do the trick with wool socks, lined gloves. I usually just wear a turtleneck, sweater/fleece and down vest for most of the winter. Those alone keep me pretty warm for riding. When I get off I put my down coat on.

You were teaching outside?:eek:

[LookinSouth]

Full chaps are freaking AWESOME. I don't even mind that I can't walk in them because they give you so much grip.


See well this is what has turned me off from them when I've tried on pairs at the tack shop....the restrictiveness. I was just thinking gee if I can hardly walk in these things how the heck am I going to ride?:D

but I suppose you get used to them and break them in? My friend rides in full chaps alot and she swears by them for grippyness and warmth.

[LookinSouth]

Not to hijack the thread, but while we're on the subject, I'm looking for a new pair of winter gloves...any suggestions?


Fleece lined deerskin are nice for the super cold days. I also have a pair of the silk lined SSG gloves. They are AWESOME for any type of winter showing, clinics or in my case foxhunting. They keep your hands warm but have the same level of feel and grip as regular gloves. I hardly used my other winter riding gloves because they just feel so bulky in comparison which I hate.

The silk lined would certainly solve the bulk situation with 2 reins that another poster mentioned...

[JFS]

I have no indoor either and for years I wore those little headbands with elastic under my helmet (so it didn't affect the fit of my hat) with a neck warmer pulled up over my nose if necessary. Well last year we got ski helmets and they are great for keeping you warm and comfy when you ride. When the wind & snow kicks up we pull down the goggles and you wouldn't believe the difference :) I keep telling my kids that we should take a picture and send it into the USEA News and they were horrified that anyone would see them looking so ridiculous so you'll just have to conjure up that image in your mind.

Of course acclimation helps a little, 66 a week ago and single digits right now just isn't right :) The new guy who came from TN is acclimating better than me and definitely enjoying the snow. He's definitely a little perkier than when we tried him :)

Jackie

[badawg]

Snickersnickersnicker...snort...snot very cold in the 30's silly girls! It's only really cold once it's below zero! I had a lovely ride in the outdoor this past friday with the temps in the 20's in a few inches of snow. Makes it so easy to see your perfect 20M circles! But seriously, another vote for the tropical rider's toasties! And lots of layers, it's all about the layers. You learn that really quick living in cold country when doing anything athletic.

[LookinSouth]

Snickersnickersnicker...snort...snot very cold in the 30's silly girls! It's only really cold once it's below zero! I had a lovely ride in the outdoor this past friday with the temps in the 20's in a few inches of snow. Makes it so easy to see your perfect 20M circles! But seriously, another vote for the tropical rider's toasties! And lots of layers, it's all about the layers. You learn that really quick living in cold country when doing anything athletic.


:lol: Riding in a few inches of snow is FUN!! I'll do that in any temp...problem is it is cold as Antartica here right now but no snow to be found:no:

Last year we got a whole lot of slush, ice and freezing rain. Some snow here and there. I'm hoping for lots of SNOW. It makes winter riding so much more exciting!

[evntr06]

Regarding to the OP's full chaps vs. breeches dilemma... Here's my experience:

I had full-chaps, made out of suede, so they were softer then leather and I rode in them all the time. They definitely helped in winter and rain, and definitely good for breaking wind and adding another layer of warmth and also gave great security in the saddle in winter! When you are looking into chaps though, make sure they have a bit more room in the knee - that's what will determine your flexibility in the saddle. Having said all that, yes, they will be more restrictive then britches with boots or half chaps.

Since then I gave away my chaps and switched to warm, fleece britches, mostly b/c the chaps no longer fit me well, and started tearing up. For really cold days (high 20s/low 30s), I add another layer underneath the fleece britches, and feel completely fine, and notice that I don't miss full chaps at all.

My point is that you will likely get used to full chaps, but if you don't like feeling resticted at all, then warm britches with layers will work just as well.

Just to note that full chaps could be a bit more economical(hence I had them in college) b/c you only need 1 pair and then you can wear regular street clothes under them, so no extra expense of buying several winter warm britches. :)

[Jazzy Lady]

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These are what I wear up here on my ears. They are perfect. I used to wear them when I nordic ski raced, but now wear them under my helmet. One pair I've had for 10 years. They are perfect for keeping the ears warm.

I did trot sets yesterday in a foot of fluffy snow.

[Iride]

There are these full seat (deerskin) breeches that are made with some sort of neoprene-like material that are UBELIEVABLY warm, in any kind of wind or arctic temperatures. They're Polartech. I'm talking, it's like they are electronically heated or something, lol. I got mine I believe in a dressage catalog, or was it Dover? If you can find them, and I'm sure they're everywhere, you will NOT need full chaps :yes:

Another major benefit about these is that the deerskin seat is so incredibly grippy that you can sit the biggest silly moment or spook imaginable without a problem, Lol. And we all know how those like to come about in sub freezing temperatures. ;)

The only downside of these breeches (and I'm old enough now not to give a crap) is that they are not the most flattering things in the world. They're thick. But who cares... your bum will be happily toasty. :winkgrin:

[pinkdiamondracing]

I start with Under Armor- it is stretchy and warm, fits under jeans and breeches. A bit on the pricey side, but worth it. I hate longjohns because they bunch up when you ride, UA doesn't.
Move on to jeans and full chaps with insulated boots on my feet ( I am done for if my feet get cold)
If its really blowing wind I put my Rambo waterproof pants on over the chaps.
I worked outside all last winter sitting on a horse and managed to stay warm

[fatorangehorse]

I think their called Classic Equine. i bought mine from Smartpak. they come in blue. They have a thin fleece lining. Comfortable, warm - I never sweat in them. Those Mountain horse Fusion boots are great!

Be careful of full chaps - they can really wear the seat of your saddle. Probably not so bad for jumping or hacking. I really would do deep seated dressage work in them.

[applechick]

My vote is also with the full chaps. My full chaps kept my legs warm in the low teens up to mid-thirties. Also keeps the wind off.

I used to wear mine over jeans so if that's your preference you ought to be fine. I'm not a big fan of long underwear, even the silk because it just feels "bunchy."

All that said, I'm trying a new approach for cold weather riding this year. And am a little apprehensive about NOT wearing my trusty full chaps.

Just bought the Mt. Horse RimFrost tall boots because I have terrible time with my hands and feet which get cold, then swell and blister. So I need something I can put on that keeps my feet warm and dry while slogging out in slushy puddles, frozen mud, and snow to get my mare---then keep on for riding. Plan to layer it with Under Armor and wear with my regular breeches.

As for warm gloves, I've used the Mt. horse winter gloves and they work great. Plus they're really affordable. My instructor uses and recommends simple fleece mittens. Says she just pulls her pinky back to accommodate the reins and it's really effective.

[ThirdCharm]

Another vote for UnderArmour tights under fleecy breeches (the WindPro fleece type are AWESOME, I have some from Kerrits and some from Irideon). Just can't do chaps. If I'm teaching or taking a break between horses I'll throw on sweats or workout pants over the breeches for an extra layer if its cold enough, but it was 19 degrees Saturday morning and I was perfectly comfy with UA and breeches.

On top I had a UA turtleneck, Port Authority bonded fleece barn jacket, a HorseWear winter jacket (until I warmed up riding) and a fleece gaiter to keep my neck and ears warm (until I warmed up).

I love under armour. :-)

Jennifer

[CdnRider]

http://www.greenhawk.ca/cgi-local/SoftCart.exe/scstore/p-DRC1338.html?L+scstore+vsly5264ffd92dd9+1227515258

I just bought these, hasn't been cold enough to use them riding yet, but standing around the barn/arena is colder than riding and they are very toasty.

[Trixie]

I don't mind chaps - and in winter, sometimes I'll do long underwear, jeans, and my full chaps, they're pretty good for keeping you warm. Otherwise it's long underwear, fleecy breeches, and my full seat riding snowpants. Yes, I'm a retard about the cold.

[Fence2Fence]

A very heavy wool sock from Cabela's to keep the piggies warm. Yeah, I know, I look like a lumber jack with them. To fit into tall boots or half chaps, I cut the top of the sock off at the ankle.

[Bobthehorse]

You know what Im trying out this winter for those freezing road hacks up here in Canada?

Those old timey 70s ski racing pants. I figure they are less bulky than snow pants, but still warm. Ill let you know.

Other than that, I wear ski socks, with wool ones over top, in Ariat winter paddock boots with half chaps 2 sizes too big to fit over my clothes. 1-3 layers of long johns under my breeches, depending on the day, and 1-3 under my hoody. On top of that, I have a down vest, down jacket liner, and an old snowboarding jacket. I wear all three if its really cold. Then I have a helmet cozy cover, which sometimes I put on my too big helmet so I can fit a balaclava underneath as well. I also have ski giggles for the really cold hacking days. SSG winter gloves, but when its really cold I put my big mittens overtop, and hack holding the reins in a fist.

[Hilary]

I have full seat riding "snowpants" too - they keep your butt warm when not on the horse, which chaps don't do. My chaps are entirely comfortable off the horse. They were new last year, and were stiff at first, but broke in beautifully.

They are really warm b/c they cut the wind.

[Iride]

You know what Im trying out this winter for those freezing road hacks up here in Canada?

Those old timey 70s ski racing pants. I figure they are less bulky than snow pants, but still warm. Ill let you know.

Other than that, I wear ski socks, with wool ones over top, in Ariat winter paddock boots with half chaps 2 sizes too big to fit over my clothes. 1-3 layers of long johns under my breeches, depending on the day, and 1-3 under my hoody. On top of that, I have a down vest, down jacket liner, and an old snowboarding jacket. I wear all three if its really cold. Then I have a helmet cozy cover, which sometimes I put on my too big helmet so I can fit a balaclava underneath as well. I also have ski giggles for the really cold hacking days. SSG winter gloves, but when its really cold I put my big mittens overtop, and hack holding the reins in a fist.

:eek::eek::eek:

[imapepper]

For colder weather, I do wear my chaps. I need to find some warmer breeches to wear though because a couple of the horses I ride rub my legs in my chaps. I don't have that problem with boots and breeches.

I have to laugh with all the cold comments :lol: I used to relate to you but now I am cold when it drops below 50 :rolleyes: Texas has messed up my body's thermostat. When it is 30 degrees in the morning and 75 degrees by afternoon, it's hard to get used to the cold. I vaguely remember really cold weather and galloped at Hawthorne and Sportsmans in Cicero....now those were some chilly mornings :lol: And riding in the fresh snow in the northwest suburbs. That was the best. There is nothing better than a good gallop in the fresh snow :D

[mkevent]

I like the fleece ear warmers that attach directly to the helmet. I think Big Ds carries them for around $8.00 per pair. They work great and really keep your ears warm!

[sisu27]

I don't find silk is a very good base layer, I LOVE "Woolpower" brand long johns from Sweden. Marino wool, so comfy and warm and satisfies my need to not buy anything made in China. I also have under shirts, a thin balaclava that fits perfectly under my J3, socks and full zip sweaters from them. Lasts forever too.
For my second layer I go with Irideon winter breechs and then finally suede full chaps and Columbia Bugaboo short boots.
I also find the Thinsulate deerskin gloves work well.
I am sure I look ridiculous out there but I am old enough to no longer care.

[LookinSouth]

Other than that, I wear ski socks, with wool ones over top, in Ariat winter paddock boots with half chaps 2 sizes too big to fit over my clothes. 1-3 layers of long johns under my breeches, depending on the day, and 1-3 under my hoody. On top of that, I have a down vest, down jacket liner, and an old snowboarding jacket. I wear all three if its really cold. Then I have a helmet cozy cover, which sometimes I put on my too big helmet so I can fit a balaclava underneath as well. I also have ski giggles for the really cold hacking days. SSG winter gloves, but when its really cold I put my big mittens overtop, and hack holding the reins in a fist.


good god, I dont' think I could MOVE with that many layers of clothing on let alone actually ride:eek:;)

[EventerAJ]

For colder weather, I do wear my chaps. I need to find some warmer breeches to wear though because a couple of the horses I ride rub my legs in my chaps. I don't have that problem with boots and breeches.

I have to laugh with all the cold comments :lol: I used to relate to you but now I am cold when it drops below 50 :rolleyes: Texas has messed up my body's thermostat. When it is 30 degrees in the morning and 75 degrees by afternoon, it's hard to get used to the cold. I vaguely remember really cold weather and galloped at Hawthorne and Sportsmans in Cicero....now those were some chilly mornings :lol: And riding in the fresh snow in the northwest suburbs. That was the best. There is nothing better than a good gallop in the fresh snow :D

My legs got really bad rubs last winter riding 10 a day, so I invested in a pair of elastic leggings. http://www.bitofbritain.com/Equestrian_Leggins_p/0288.htm Best $20 I ever spent. I wear them beneath breeches/jeans under my chaps, so no rubs even when things bunch up under the stirrup leathers. I've also used them during the summer, when I get raw patches on my shins... bandaids help, but these leggings will allow the wounds to fully heal.

[Camp Girl]

I would suppose it would depend on how cold tollerant you are. I live in MN and don't bother putting on the long winter underware until it gets to be about zero. Of course, most of my friends are then on their second pair or breaking out their Carharts. LOL. Layers work best. Wool, silk, dryweave synthetic next to the skin work best... they stay warm but the sweat isn't trapped against your body like with cotton. Invest in good wool socks and a good water/wind resistant or insultated glove. Chaps will add warmth but I found I wear mine about as often as I wear my winter riding boots (about never). Personally, if you are wearing chaps, whatever you have under them (jeans, breeches) shouldn't make them fit too snug or you might actually find yourself feeling colder. I only wear a winter jacket at my husband's insistence. Often I will just keep one in the car and wear a few light weight layers with a wool sweater and a vest. Layers can actually be quite warm and allow you to move.

Best advice I can give -- keep moving. If you are still for too long, the cold creeps up on you quick. I have no problems with -10 or -15 below out... as long as I keep moving around.

Stay warm and have fun.