Somone NEEDS this Passier!

[pintopiaffe]

I'd sell my soul for it to be an 18" not a 17". Would probably even risk it if it was 17.5... But 17" just won't fit, no matter the price. :no: I know better.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180307328049&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123

I have nothing to do with it, just CRYING over the fact that it's so beautiful and yet, so small. :cry: Tree can be adjusted to any size you need.

I have never seen one in such new condition. I'm sure the price will get up to $5-600, but they never usually go over that. Many go for quite a bit less. No one wants (except me) plain flaps and brown these days. <sob> :cry: :cry:

[Ashby]

Some real estate lady bought a Passier to serve as a prop in real estate open houses, she sez?? Good heavens.

I already have a nice dressage saddle that both the horse and I love, a Stubben. And I have a nice hunt saddle too, also a Stubben. But what I really long for is what I used to ride in 25 years ago: a Passier Hanover cutback head AP saddle. Aaaaaah! I used to get in that thing and make disgusting groans and wriggles, it felt so good. I NEVER fell off a single time while I was in that thing, it was as if I had a seatbelt. I'd love to find another one. They're out there, just old and rare.

[Wellspotted]

Oh, what a beautiful saddle! I tried one like it, only much older and not in quite as great a condition, a couple of years ago. Too small, but I loved it anyway!!

Some time ago I went into a tack shop and saw a gorgeous saddle on the consignment rack, way up over my head. I asked an assistant what kind it was and she got it down for me, looked under the skirt, and said it was a "Hannover."

Yep--when I checked, sure enough, it said "Hannover." Also said "Passier". :eek: :lol:

Not sure I'd really want to ask at that particular tack shop for advice on tack ... :no:

[Tif_Ann]

Beautiful .... I bid. I've been debating a brown dressage saddle for my sorrel overo pinto gelding ... and planning on buying a "good" saddle next year. For the right price, I might get it early ;)

[Sdhaurmsmom]

...But what I really long for is what I used to ride in 25 years ago: a Passier Hanover cutback head AP saddle. Aaaaaah! I used to get in that thing and make disgusting groans and wriggles, it felt so good. I NEVER fell off a single time while I was in that thing, it was as if I had a seatbelt. I'd love to find another one. They're out there, just old and rare.

Ashby, I scored one of these this summer...Oh, my. I used to have the dressage version and it didn't really work for me, but the AP,...I know exactly what you mean about the disgusting groans and wiggles. I get in the saddle and it's like it was made for me, or is just part of me. It's indescribably delicious! LOL

It was built in July 1967 - the Summer of Love! and still going strong - how's that for quality?

I don't school in it regularly, because my boy needs a treeless for everyday work (forward girth groove leading to wither atrophy issues) but I treat myself to a ride in it every 10 rides or so - man! It's the best!

I just got a thinline pad in hopes that it might help mitigate some of the tree-point-digging issues, and I can use this saddle more without damaging my horse. (I have had it adjusted and stuffed to fit my horse well, but he needs a saddle without hard parts.)

[Ambrey]

She has a reserve price, wonder how much she's expecting to get?

[bthatasitmay]

I may be wrong, but apparently Passier keeps the patterns to all of their saddles and will custom make an older style upon request.

[pintopiaffe]

I may be wrong, but apparently Passier keeps the patterns to all of their saddles and will custom make an older style upon request.Absolutely true. :yes: And that is my fantasy.

To get my Ancient VSD recreated... With long billets. It is the most aesthetically pleasing saddle I've ever seen. (in a redwood/chestnut type of colour, though it's getting darker now with more use, sadly... but the sheer lines of it, the shape of it appeal to me like no other.)

Alas... I paid $500 for it. A blessing and yet, a curse. :lol: :cry:

Seriously, when I win megabucks--I'll get the saddle remade. Until then, I haunt Ebay and Bucks County and Dutchess and Craig's List to try to find another for the young'uns.... <wistful sigh>

I doubt I'll ever be able to afford a custom Passier. But the minute I *can*, we're THERE. Maybe four years or so, if I can manage to save right. :sadsmile:

[downthecenterlinetheycome]

That's my saddle, except mine has knee rolls. And this one's in better condition. (Mine was in good condition, til the 5 year old trainer's daughter "helped" me clean it. Every time she found a crusty, she raked her fingernails down the leather, and dumped my whole tub of leather conditioner on it before I could stop her. :eek::no::mad:).

I got mine for $700. Trainer actually has the same saddle, surprisingly. They were the only 2 we've ever seen.

[Speedy]

I want it!! Do you think I could get away with the brown on a gray horse?? I am thinking it would darken considerably with time/love anyway.

[pintopiaffe]

I just got a thinline pad in hopes that it might help mitigate some of the tree-point-digging issues, and I can use this saddle more without damaging my horse. (I have had it adjusted and stuffed to fit my horse well, but he needs a saddle without hard parts.)Who did the fitting? My Prince-and-the-Pea really only went fabulously in treeless... until he developed so much topline that *I* couldn't take it any more. Sue Schurer was able to stuff my Ancient Passier SOOOO softly... the panels end up being very springy, and yet somehow keep their shape. She is GENIOUS. I also had her adjust it rather wide, so I can use a Stephens or Bartl 1/2 pad (very dense sheepskin) with Thinline pads on top, and he is as happy, if not moreso than he ever was in treeless. Probably more, because *I* am happy, so am riding more effectively...

I'm quite surprized the Passier points are the issue, they are shortened, which is why the old ones tend to 'fit everything', and be soooo forgiving compared to newer, deeper saddles.

At any rate, thought it was worth passing along, as I've really, really struggled with saddle fit on my guy. If he was happy, I wasn't. If I was, he wasn't. The Ancient Passier (VSD) is the Three Bears' Porridge for us, with the above combination <knocking wood loudly and madly!>

[Sdhaurmsmom]

Hi pintopiaffe:
Out in the sticks where I am, there's only one person who works on saddles, and I have no idea how their work compares with a master saddle fitter's work. The saddle was re-stuffed with very long-fiber wool flocking. It was already pretty well fitted to him (What IS it with those Passiers!?!) so we did an on-site adjustment, with quite a few in-process fit checks on the horse while doing it. I'd say it's as well fitted to him as a treed saddle can be. Don't want to hijack this thread with my saddle fit issues.

Could be that if I had Ms. Schurer out here to work on the saddle, she could make it work better. Might be, might not. Either way, not a practical notion since I have two good treeless saddles that work well for us as everyday schoolers. I do all the dressage, and 98% of the jumping work, in these. Just put the Passier on once in a while as a treat! (and maybe, would show in it...if we ever show over fences:uhoh:)

[Christa P]

I sold an old (1979) one on EBAY about 15 months ago for $325. I know it went to Oregon. It was on good shape, but not as nice as this.

Christa P

[Foxtrot's]

I had one of those old Passier AP Hannover saddles. It was second hand in the late sixties! Fit everything, spring tree. Rode in it, evented, hunted - it swam in the Fraser River frequently on the hunt, got soaked with rain weekly - couldn't kill it. Eventually, to my regret, I sold it because I was told my leg was better in a Crosby AGA, but the thing was so delicate it would have been ruined the way we rode back then. Now we have Passier GG and it too is like a seatbelt without being constricting.

[whitewolfe001]

Oh dear. I don't mean to brag, but...

just today I won an auction on a similar "old school" saddle, a Stubben Tristan. Brown, plain flaps, 18". For $206. (Although it's nowhere near such nice condition, it looks fairly worn, but I'm sure it's got several decades more life in it. :-)

I have no idea if an 18" will actually fit me. I don't think I've owned over 17.5". I can email you if it doesn't work out! :-)

[Chrissy]

GAAAAAAH! Sorry, but I hate it when people post saddles from eBay on COTH. Jacks up the price considerably. I've had many a bargain snatched away after someone posted a link to it on this board. After that the items tend to go for way more than it's worth because "someone on COTH said it was magnificent!".

I definitely had my eye on this one, and it IS a beautiful saddle, but with 10 bids at this point it's going to skyrocket.

Just something to think about if you are not actually going to buy the item you are giving such a glowing review to! Most of the time it is the person selling the item that wants the extra exposure, but it's all the same. Kind of ruins the auction spirit. :(

[citydog]

And the world revolves around you because why? :rolleyes:

I think the discussions when folks post about specific saddles are usually quite interesting. So *what* if an eBay saddle someone mentions here gets extra bids. More interest=more bids. *That's* how auctions work.

[Chrissy]

What you mean, city dog. I also enjoy the vast majority of the saddle discussions on this board. But put yourself in the place of someone who actually wants to *purchase* this saddle, not admire it because it is so gorgeous. You think you've found a great bargain, maybe put a few hours into REALLY scouring ebay to find the right one at a decent price... and some tire kickers show up and inflate the bidding until your bargain that you spent a good amount of time hunting down is now prices out of your means. Yeay for the seller, poo for people like me who NEED eBay to find a great saddle at a better price.

I have even seen threads on here where a member bid the saddle up for another member *just* to see what the reserve price was. Neither were serious about buying the saddle.

If another COTHer is looking for a saddle, chances are they know how to search eBay themselves and don't need someone to point out a deal. This crowd is more than internet savvy.

Not meaning to imply the discussion was all about me, more about the buyers LIKE me, which seems to be the majority of posters *like* me who are eBay addicts.

[Elegante E]

I purchased a not so ancient Passier AP, nameless version but it resembles the GG in the seat. The twist is hard as a ROCK! Think sitting on a plank. Bought it for foxhunting so had to buy a tush cush so my rear wouldn't be numb after hours of riding. Btw, my saddler had a time resizing this one as it was very narrow.

[love]

The sell your soul part gave me a kind of abomination feeling or a ugh or a yuck feeling.

[pintopiaffe]

Sorry, not my intent at all to inflate the price. It's such an esoteric item, it really didn't occur to me that pointing it out would cause a flurry of bids... :uhoh:

love, well Bless Your Heart. Perhaps English is a second language? We have a form of speaking called hyperbole or exaggeration. Also phrases called a 'figure of speech' that are purely colourful, not literal. No worries about *my* soul, it's bought and paid for with the Ultimate Price. :D

Now, I *do* have a couple spare organs I'd be willing to let go for that saddle in an 18" wide, newmarket or redwood, please... I've already sold all the spare tack, and the one horse for sale isn't selling... body parts are all I've got left. ;)

[Sdhaurmsmom]

I purchased a not so ancient Passier AP, nameless version but it resembles the GG in the seat. The twist is hard as a ROCK! Think sitting on a plank. Bought it for foxhunting so had to buy a tush cush so my rear wouldn't be numb after hours of riding. Btw, my saddler had a time resizing this one as it was very narrow.

True that! The seat IS hard as a rock. But, for my particular self, it's such a perfect fit that the hardness bothers me not a bit - it's not an issue.

Of course, I'm not out riding in it for hours and hours, as in foxhunting, lol! I would probably do the same as you if that were the case.

[Elegante E]

Of course, I'm not out riding in it for hours and hours, as in foxhunting, lol! I would probably do the same as you if that were the case.[/QUOTE]

Honestly, I don't think there is a saddle on the market that can be ridden in for three hours without causing some sort of issue :)

[everyequine]

It was built in July 1967 - the Summer of Love! and still going strong - how's that for quality?



so was I! LOL! ;)

my birthday is July 1 1967.
:D :lol:

ps, the saddle is a beauty!

[Sdhaurmsmom]

:eek::eek:http://cgi.ebay.com/Passier-All-Purpose-Saddle-17-5-Medium_W0QQitemZ160300001232

Va-va-voom!

Of course, it's an AP, but geez!

[pintopiaffe]

ooohh... that one's actually a Century, which is a CC/jumping.

dddrooooolllll.... timing is everything though... can't justify a leaping saddle 'till we get the flat saddle stuff worked out for the young'uns. :sigh:

That Century would be at home in any A Circuit ring, and for the right person, just as at home on an XC course or in stadium. Not as much support as the newer stuff, so it's conformation dependant.

[Icecapade]

love, well Bless Your Heart. Perhaps English is a second language? We have a form of speaking called hyperbole or exaggeration. Also phrases called a 'figure of speech' that are purely colourful, not literal. No worries about *my* soul, it's bought and paid for with the Ultimate Price. :D

Now, I *do* have a couple spare organs I'd be willing to let go for that saddle in an 18" wide, newmarket or redwood, please... I've already sold all the spare tack, and the one horse for sale isn't selling... body parts are all I've got left. ;)


whats that? blood on the alter of the weather gods for that perfect ride on that one day you need it the most?

That or shinny things. I sell all sorts of important things for new tack or new costumes for my dance performances, but I'm a whore like that though. ;)

[perpetual_novice]

The sell your soul part gave me a kind of abomination feeling or a ugh or a yuck feeling.

The posting three times in the Giveaway Forum expressing interest in three completely different horses in a space of less than twelve hours definitely gives me an "ugh or a yuck feeling". :rolleyes:

Oh and I really do lust after one of those old Passier saddles myself. Oh wait, I just need to clarify that I didn't mean lust in a literal way. Or maybe I did mean it literally. What about covet? Is it okay if I say,"covet"?

Sorry all, I'll stop feeding the troll now.

[JulesGirl]

Oh dear. I don't mean to brag, but...

just today I won an auction on a similar "old school" saddle, a Stubben Tristan. Brown, plain flaps, 18". For $206. (Although it's nowhere near such nice condition, it looks fairly worn, but I'm sure it's got several decades more life in it. :-)

I have no idea if an 18" will actually fit me. I don't think I've owned over 17.5". I can email you if it doesn't work out! :-)

Can I have some of your saddle-bidding luck? :eek:

[Sdhaurmsmom]

That seems like a low starting price for the quality and condition of that Century Passier. I wish they'd published a photo of the underflap....

[Ambrey]

That seems like a low starting price for the quality and condition of that Century Passier. I wish they'd published a photo of the underflap....

You can always ask!

[Auventera Two]

Honestly, I don't think there is a saddle on the market that can be ridden in for three hours without causing some sort of issue :)

Not true! Try treeless. ;) At the end of a fast 4 hour ride, I don't even feel like I've been on a horse.

[Sdhaurmsmom]

Unbelievably, I just scored another Passier AP just like my sweet old one, only in 16 seat size...for my daughter and her pony, yay!;)

Got it on Ebay - the world's biggest jumble sale. If you know what you're looking for, and bide your time...you can score!

:lol:
Matching saddles...too much!
It's actually in better shape than the 17.5 one I've got. And it was dirt cheap. I'm talking $169. That actually seems like stealing.

Smiling....:D

[mandalea]

I would buy, but its to narrow for my horse =S

otherwise its perfect, and exactly what im looking for!!