Is anyone here familiar with this grain company

[dalpal]

Ridenslide's husband was telling me about it today at the store....they will be carrying some of his products. It sounds great. Was curious if anyone here was already using some of these products and what your thoughts are. If you aren't, please look over the website and give me your opinion.

I'm currently feeding Progressive Senior.

www.VaEquineResearch.com

[Hilton_McM06]

hello, i use this feed for my race horses and my event horse, it is awsome!! I have seen complete changes in performance and attitude and looks!! I was very skeptical when i started this feed program but now i really back it up 100%! also it is good to know what I am really feeding the horses, and that it is 100% good for them! You really should try it yourself!!
Mariesa

[Daydream Believer]

I think several folks on COTH use their feeds. I had several recommend this feed when I was having my problems earlier this year with the soy products. I did not switch to it as getting it is very hard in my area and it's expensive compared to what I ended up doing but I am quite intrigued with his concepts.

[ridenslide]

How's your herd,DDB?
I'm excited about the line!:D

[Daydream Believer]

Check your pms...Been out all day!

[JB]

I find it odd that one of the Horse Sense feeds is straw-based :confused: I think it's the Low Carb one.

[ridenslide]

So are several of Dengie's ;) Takes more calories to burn than to consume.
Straw=Horse Celery.:winkgrin:

[TheOrangeOne]

I know the guy who pithced it to me at upperville claimed he could cure my horse of ulcers with wormer and use of hsi cut hay instead of hay. Because hay is too long stemmed and makes a ball in their stomach. I tend to assume that chewing would solve that, but what do I know...

[JB]

So are several of Dengie's ;) Takes more calories to burn than to consume.
Straw=Horse Celery.:winkgrin:

Straw also tends to be very high in sugars and lignin, and has very little beneficial nutritional value. Why not just use beet pulp?

[JB]

I know the guy who pithced it to me at upperville claimed he could cure my horse of ulcers with wormer and use of hsi cut hay instead of hay. Because hay is too long stemmed and makes a ball in their stomach. I tend to assume that chewing would solve that, but what do I know...

Dang, it's a wonder horses all over the world aren't keeling over with giant hay balls in their stomachs.

[ridenslide]

Hmm...didn't get that pitch.:no:

Dengie must be on to something with their straw based formula to be certified by the laminitis trust.

Both Horse Sense & Dengie's Straw Based Formulas are under 4% NSC
The Timothy based one is under 6%

[JSwan]

I think several folks on COTH use their feeds. I had several recommend this feed when I was having my problems earlier this year with the soy products. I did not switch to it as getting it is very hard in my area and it's expensive compared to what I ended up doing but I am quite intrigued with his concepts.


DB - sorry that stuff isn't more available to you. It's AWESOME.

You "know" me, I don't really get ecstatic over products, and I'm not one to jump on bandwagons.

I've not used any of the other feeds they've come up with - just the original one - I think it was Horse Sense A?

I stopped using it and went with Buckeye.... mostly due to cost. But though I have nothing against soy, it seems my horses just did better on Horse Sense. Especially The Free Horse - who was a mess when I got him.

The guy who runs the stores is an interesting character.

I'm sick of monkeying around and will be going back to Horse Sense.

[JB]

Dengie must be on to something with their straw based formula to be certified by the laminitis trust.

Both Horse Sense & Dengie's Straw Based Formulas are under 4% NSC
The Timothy based one is under 6%

I wonder what they are doing to de-sugar the straw?

[JSwan]

What kind of straw, I wonder? Or does all straw have basically the same NSC? I never bothered to find out.

[ridenslide]

J Swan-
I have had the same reults in 2 weeks.
The vet was out for fall shots yesterday. He usually makes a remark about how he is surprised my guy can do his job:sadsmile:-Shaggy is built wonky behind(slightly bowlegged) & usually duck walks behind,dragging his toes & shuffles along, slowly - always!!Well, not anymore.
Well- HE(the vet;)) remarked that Shaggy was really striding up behind NICELY.I did not tell him of the feed change.I will wait a while longer, just to be sure.:winkgrin:

My daughter was riding him the other day & he was moving SO markedly different,that I made her get off & make her watch me ride him.Now GRACEFUL has not EVER been used to decribe this horse's way of going. :eek:
Well, she said he was moving like a "gazelle":lol:, hunter like even!Translation from the 16 yr old poet -graceful.:lol:

The feed is THE only change that has occured in the horse's life recently.It is bizarre.

I KNOW better than to post this on a public forum, but....I couldn't help myself.Not after the vet who usually makes fun of him saw a difference.:winkgrin:

[Meshach]

that looks very interesting! I have to go down to your store this weekend, might have to check it out.

[Melyni]

All I can say is.. if something appears to be too good to be true it usually is.....
Yours
MW

[Spiritpaws]

While roasting the grains would extend shelf life, it also depletes the grains of their nutrients and enzymes. Reading the Horse Sense labels makes it pretty clear there's more synthetic "nutrients" in this feed than there is food.

[TrueColours]

I sell a pelleted straw bedding and at one of the shows I was a where I had a booth extolling the virtues of my bedding product a lady came up to me from the UK and was really excited to learn more about it

I thought she was interested in it for bedding and turns out her interest was from a forage perspective

Apparently in the UK they are having a very critical hay shortage and their horses are being fed straw instead (???) and their feed companies are formulating their grain portions now to reflect their roughage coming from straw and not hay. But apparently their horses are all doing very well eating straw for roughage and not hay

Can anyone from the UK comment on this at all? If it is correct - are all of your horses doing well eating literally a bale's worth of straw each day?

[JSwan]

I'm not sure why "synthetic" nutrients are noteworthy. I take it none of y'all take vitamins in the morning? :lol:

The website is awful. Nothing personal against the owners -but it's just awful.

I don't know about the products they are offering now - but the original one is pretty straightforward. I just can't replicate it for the same cost as they can - I don't buy large enough amounts.

Essentially is just an alfalfa based feed. There is nothing wrong with alfalfa; it's an excellent forage. It's just alfalfa pellets, vitamin/mineral pre mix, and oats.

Oats are also not the devil.

I do like to add fat to horses in hard work. But I think what this company is warning people away from is the large amounts of fat that has become fashionable to feed to horses. There are an awful lot of obese horses out there - and not all of them are fat because of too much grass.

I have never been one to suggest that a product is a cure-all, or imbue it with mystical powers. Simply put, the horses did very well on the product.

The one horse that showed a complete turnaround was a free horse that had bad ulcers and was in overall marginal health. This product and Pro-CMC made him blossom. I changed feeds due to cost - and honestly - I'm just not as pleased with their condition now.

Whatever works for the horse is my guide. Some do not find this product palatable. Some gobble it up.

It is quite possible for a small local company to produce a quality feed designed for the area's soil and forage. Essentially, that's all this company is.

ETA - oops - my bad. Their website is much improved. I was referring to their old website. Still don't think there is anything magical about the product - it's just a local feed that isn't soy based.