martingale rules

[max72]

I still don't know very much about rules, so thanks in advance for answering the basics...

I read that standing martingales are not allowed in eventing but I don't know why?

[goeslikestink]

beucase they attack to the nose band and are meant to stop a horse from putting his head dwon to buck so are and should be fixed to a certain lenght so he cant do it
running martigales are for the opposite to prevent a horse from lifting its head to high to rear
but can also act as aid - in getting the position for a jump if the horse pulls or is alittle harder to check back with dinky fingers has stoppers on the reins, so the restriction can be less movement or more so so horses head isnt restricted when jumping

both are attched to the girth and up into chest area via neck strap which also handy if you need to grab hold of if you feel unsecure if the jump is bigger, then you antispated
bridging reins and holding neck strap via both hands in a x/c position plus running martigale can give you more support when ahorse is in full gallop and the jumps come up quick,

[lizathenag]

I think the reason that standings are not allowed is because if the horse falls, the martigale stays tight. the running is only taut when the reins are.

rumor is that some cowboy around here drowned his horse by trying to swim it with a tie down (which is like a standing martigale)

[Ajierene]

I think the reason that standings are not allowed is because if the horse falls, the martigale stays tight. the running is only taut when the reins are.

rumor is that some cowboy around here drowned his horse by trying to swim it with a tie down (which is like a standing martigale)

Basically this it the reason. With a standing martingale, the horse can only move his head so far. If he needs to stretch more over a wide jump or pick his head up on a landing from a drop down or something, the standing martingale can hinder this and cause and accident.

With a running martingale, the horse still has freedom of movement of their head to help their balance.

[snoopy]

beucase they attack to the nose band and are meant to stop a horse from putting his head dwon to buck so are and should be fixed to a certain lenght so he cant do it



I do not get this logic....:confused: Someone needs to explain something to me....

[yellowbritches]

"beucase they attack to the nose band and are meant to stop a horse from putting his head dwon to buck so are and should be fixed to a certain lenght so he cant do it"

Gotta say this is the first time I've ever heard of a standing being used to prevent bucking! And I also have to say that I know for a fact that that isn't true (having ridden plenty of bucking horses wearing standings). Standings to the same job runnings do...keep you from getting a broken nose if the horse chucks its head.

I agree with the the others on why standings are not allowed.

[snoopy]

"beucase they attack to the nose band and are meant to stop a horse from putting his head dwon to buck so are and should be fixed to a certain lenght so he cant do it"

Gotta say this is the first time I've ever heard of a standing being used to prevent bucking! And I also have to say that I know for a fact that that isn't true (having ridden plenty of bucking horses wearing standings). Standings to the same job runnings do...keep you from getting a broken nose if the horse chucks its head.

I agree with the the others on why standings are not allowed.


We must have posted at the same time!!!:lol:

[yellowbritches]

Apparently....great minds DO think alike! :lol:

[beeblebrox]

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Sep. 25, 2008, 01:50 AM
goeslikestink


because they attack to the nose band and are meant to stop a horse from putting his head down to buck so are and should be fixed to a certain length so he cant do it"


Sorry but that is BS. I horse can buck no matter how tight a martingale (running or-standing) draw reins, vienna reins, german what have you.

Standing martingales are often misused as for their length and can prevent a horse from using his neck and back if adjusted to tight. I have seen many ponies lean on them for balance as some trainers use them too tight and turn them into a western device called a tie down where roping horses and barrel horse use them to balance but a properly adjusted standing should be able to be pushed up and touch to whole underside of a horse neck and throat latch and many you see in show ring can not do this!

As for using them in the field, see a fair bit of fox hunters with them in other countries and a few here and well I personally would not want to event one but understand why some people use them for various reasons.

[NMK]

Wasn't there an incident in Mexico, in the water, '68? Anyhow, a horse needs full range in the use of his neck for balancing in extreme situations. Standing martingales would inhibit this.

Nancy

[ideayoda]

Standing martingales do not allow a full range of motion, if the are short enough to prevent head tossing/etc they are too short for a full bascule over a fence. And they are way too easy, if way too long, to cause all sorts of accicents. Limiting a buck (omg)...no, that's not the use.

Runnings are the only ones allowed by the fei, and it is because if they are properly fitted (height of point of hip when held straight up) they have NO effect, and only come into play if the horse inverts/etc. And they can allow total freedom of bascule.

[max72]

Most of this makes sense to me - thanks for explaining. I don't get the bucking thing either. An eventing trainer first recommended I put my greenie in a standing for showjumping lessons when she was flipping her head around a lot from being antsy/nervous on account of being away from home. If I ever get myself to a xc lesson, I will leave it home :)