FL horse saga UPDATE- COTHdogs, where are you? (Video found!)

[eponacowgirl]

Oh, boy, guys... this could get fun.

Note: This came from my friend, and there are three sides to every story (hers, theirs and the truth).

The FL owners called my friend on Monday... told her about how HORRIBLE "T" is and how he keeps getting worse and worse and they can't even get him IN the ring at shows anymore...

Last weekend, as soon as the girl mounted he started shaking and sweating, and he wouldn't walk in the gate- he was rearing and someone had to grab him and help her off he was so bad.

Oh, and do you want to buy him back?

Hellllooooo, seriously?! Needless to say, my friend is slightly distraught. She looked for him briefly but didn't find him on equine.com or dreamhorse.

Come on COTHdogs, find that horse!

I'd also be interested to know if this is true or not.

[lcw579]

Wasn't there a happy update with pictures not too long ago?

And now I will sit back and wait for the FL peeps to chime in ....

[Cherry]

Come on COTHdogs, find that horse!
C'mon FL peeps!!! You did it once, you can do it again!!!! :yes: ;) :lol:

[horse-loverz]

I sooooo have my popcorn ready.... You should tell friend to have them send T for I dunno a 3 month trial... with no deposit....... see how they like it. :winkgrin:

[Woodland]

At this time of year I know only a handful of people down there - the winter season is when I have "connections" there.

Sounds like he is having a back problem. They should have a vet and a chiro out immediately!

I will ask around.

[donkeyman]

I guess they never ditched the Kimberwick

[Woodland]

I sooooo have my popcorn ready.... You should tell friend to have them send T for I dunno a 3 month trial... with no deposit....... see how they like it. :winkgrin:


YUP! I'll take him on that deal :lol:

Donkeyman - I knew you would check in :D

[talkofthetown]

Unfortunately, I didn't read a single post in the original FL Horse Saga, although I know it was one of the Greats- I know, I know, grab popcorn, put down drink, go read. Anyways, I don't know any background, but I'm in FL if you need help...just summarize and tell me what I'm looking for.

[donkeyman]

It appears the rider/owner was top 10 junior is State 4-h show in the working hunters etc. Looks like she did quite well. Other shows indicate ribbons in equitation etc. There is a picture on their 4H website and the horse looks like a happy camper. Go figure.......not like they didn't have enough time to try the horse.......

[ChocoMare]

Holy moly. :o

But...why am I NOT surprised. :confused:

Can't wait to see how this portion of the saga pans out. :rolleyes:

[tweeter]

:D Seriously? What are they smoking?

Need to make a popcorn run, maybe pick up some yummy drink mix....

[trubandloki]

So horse goes from happy camper (per Donkeyman's update) to rearing maniac in a very short period of time and they do not think medical and suddenly want to sell him?

Or gee, could it be they want to upgrade and they simply want to guilt the previous owner into buying the horse back for next to nothing?

[pony4me]

Yeah, but now that show season is over, they don't need a horse anymore, do they? Like they'd have to feed it, stable it, shoe it, etc. Much better to borrow one free at the beginning of the show season, and send it back afterwards. Hey, why didn't I think of that?

[gieriscm]

Perhaps the new owners called b/c the OP's friend put a right of first refusal clause into her sales contract? Or... was there a sales contract? I forget.

Does the horse act like this at home? If he does, why are they still wasting time and money taking him to shows?

OP - did your friend ask if they'd had a vet or chiro look at the horse?

I wouldn't buy the horse back, and IIRC the OP's friend has neither the time nor resources to take him back. Probably the best she can do if the current owners don't want him is to try to find him a good home as a giveaway with all his issues disclosed.

[tweeter]

Yeah, but now that show season is over, they don't need a horse anymore, do they? Like they'd have to feed it, stable it, shoe it, etc. Much better to borrow one free at the beginning of the show season, and send it back afterwards. Hey, why didn't I think of that?


Silly Pony, think of all the $$$ you could have saved :winkgrin:

Now, someone tell us how much they want for the poor horse, I'm guessing at least 10x what they paid, after all, it now has all those show miles on it....

[TBKate]

As I recall from the original saga, T isn't right in my backyard, but I'm happy to go do detective work if necessary!! I love me some espionage ;) Somebody PM me the new owner and/or trainer or farm names and I'll see what I can quietly find out. Poor T, sounds like he needs a good vet and chiro workup. :(

[FolsomBlues]

Ok, I'm too curious now. Can someone post the link to the original saga? I'm up for a good read today. I tried searching "FL Horse Saga" and nothing came up. Also, I'm in Tampa so anything within an hour or so of here I'd be game to go check out....

[TBKate]

Darnit Kristen, I think you're closer than me!! But let me know if you want a partner in crime. :winkgrin:(Not to hijack, but how are you and Reno doing down in Tampa?) And definitely read the original (preferably with a beverage, or several...)--it'd be funny if it wasn't real.

[lcw579]

The original is in the Favorites:

http://www.chronicleforums.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=121252


Settle in with some snacks and beverages. ;)

[eponacowgirl]

I'm not sure there was a right of first refusal, with all the blunders she made... I'm pretty sure she knew she wouldn't be able to afford to buy him back anyway, but you never know.

I'm wondering how much they want for him.

Seems like its medical to me, too, but I doubt my friend mentioned it... she said she didn't really have much to say, she was a bit shocked and all- T was such a puppy dog, I can't imagine him ever doing something like that without good reason...

[Amwrider]

Yeah, but now that show season is over, they don't need a horse anymore, do they? Like they'd have to feed it, stable it, shoe it, etc. Much better to borrow one free at the beginning of the show season, and send it back afterwards. Hey, why didn't I think of that?



ding ding ding ding ding! I think we have a winner here! I'll bet this ir right on the money. I am in FL in the Tampa area but don't travel the hunter circles. I do breed shows. If this is close to me maybe I can "shop" with a student?

[FolsomBlues]

AMW, let me know if you want a partner in crime, I can be the "student"! I'm in Tampa as well and always up for some good espionage! And holy 72 pages batman! I just found the original thread, I'm going to start reading to see what happened, this sounds like it's going to be a good one!

PS - Kate, Reno is great, we're doing a HT at Fannin Hill on Oct 4th, he's such a good boy!

[onthebit]

I thought she'd gotten a really happy update complete with pictures of happy horse and smiling kid not too long ago, no?

I wonder what the real story happens to be.

[War Admiral]

I thought she'd gotten a really happy update complete with pictures of happy horse and smiling kid not too long ago, no?

If she did (I stopped following the original thread after a while), then she needs to download and KEEP copies of it - thus proving that the horse was "as advertised" at time of sale and any subsequent problems are the fault of buyer not seller!

And P4M, you definitely have a point. Gee, maybe us po' folks can ALL start doing sellers this way to get nice heese just in time for WEF! :lol::lol::lol:

[justdandy]

Here's the first update in July with the happy pictures.

http://www.chronicleforums.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=159120

I wonder what happend since then. It's very strange that a horse can go from being the greatest to extremely awful in two months. I, too, would like to know if they've had a vet out to check T over. Poor guy!

[jeano]

I insist that the Crayola Clique get going on this one, especially since the invasion of Canada appears to have been postponed.

[Ibex]

Maybe someone told the Dad that the horse isn't worth the $20k he claims to have paid and now he has mud on his face??

[tweeter]

I insist that the Crayola Clique get going on this one, especially since the invasion of Canada appears to have been postponed.


Great idea. We can work on this till spring, then invade Canada when their snow goes away.

Crayon suit getting cleaned and spiffed up today :D

[CanadianBlue]

Thanks, due to the need of reading all the back posts I have lost track of the time and missed class!
When my grades suffer I'm looking at you COTH!
haha

[BuddyRoo]

Well crap. I too wonder if the horse really is having problems (which ought to be checked out) or if this is a case of "we only wanted a horse during show season"?

Goodness.

[talkofthetown]

Alright, I'm going back to the original thread, too. Sounds like you need people in Tampa...I'm in Tallahassee, so I don't know how much I can do, other than ask around.

[Iron Horse Farm]

Here's the first update in July with the happy pictures.

http://www.chronicleforums.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=159120

I wonder what happend since then. It's very strange that a horse can go from being the greatest to extremely awful in two months. I, too, would like to know if they've had a vet out to check T over. Poor guy!


Ok, after that last thread consumed my life I swore that I wouldn't read this but I just have to comment.
1. That is a LOT of bit (and double reins!) to trust a kid with.............one who isn't even able to control her own position yet!
2. How is it that she can ride this guy with just a halter, bareback but has to ride in a harsh bit and double reins?
3. While this horse isn't perfect, knees could be tighter, higher etc., he is a really really cute mover that is worth well over what was paid for him and obviously worth his weight in gold since he is willing to put up with a kid that bounces on his face and whose position is jarred loose by his less than "back cracking" jump.

In short, they have never appreciated him from what I understand.

[AnotherRound]

Sounds like they ruined him, and should be lucky to get $2,000 back for him. Tell him sure, you'll take him back, but minus his devaluation.

I second the idea that now that the season is over, they don't want to upkeep the horse over the winter.

What if they did sell him back to the original owner?

What if, through the winter, the old owner cleans him up, chiro's him and sorts out his aches and pains, gets him going again sound, and betch, just betcha, the next spring they come a knocking to see how he's doing and, golly, if he's really going good, well take a look at him and maybe if we feel comfortable, like after a three month trial, we'll consider buying him back again? Hmm? :winkgrin:

[tweeter]

The old owner should tell them she'd like a 3 month trial, and of course they'll deliver him to her :cool:

[gieriscm]

Sounds like they ruined him, and should be lucky to get $2,000 back for him. Tell him sure, you'll take him back, but minus his devaluation.

**** that! The current owners should be paying the OP's friend for training, for shipping, for medical diagnosis, etc if the horse goes back.

[WeDoItAll]

Spent almost all day reading that other chain! At least at the time of sale, the previous owner was not in any position to take back the horse (even when she technically still owned it); so it's not likely she's going to be able to buy it back now.

Sounds like someone else is going to have to take this horse on .... or the current owners just need to take proper care of it and have it vetted and chiro'd as needed. Maybe another call to momma trainer is in order so daughter trainer can do the right thing?

[Reynard Ridge]

Poor horse. :no: Nothing like spending your life being the pawn of an asshat.

[lorilu]

Well, if those pics are of Sumpter Eq Center, they are having another show the weekend of the 20th (dressage , short stirrups, and jumper) and the 21st (H/J classes). I'll be there on the 20th, I'll keep an eye out, but I won't be there on SUnday.

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[eponacowgirl]

If anyone wants name of trainer, PM me...

I'd love to know whats going on down there in lala land...

[Beethoven]

I am in Grant, FL(South brevard county)....

[eponacowgirl]

Does anyone have the original trainer's website from the first thread? My google skills suck- I can't find anything that Donkeyman has found...

[HunterJumperz]

I was briefly going through the past posts and noticed that the horse was in Winter Haven??? That is two minutes from me.....
Feel free to PM me with details on horse/barn/trainer- etc.

Eponacowgirl - sent you a PM regarding horse.

[eponacowgirl]

HunterJumperz found him in a classified ad on her website. I know publicly posting the link is not allowed, but if anyone wants to see it, PM me. Anyone want to make a field trip?

[Carrera]

Found him too...

WOW they are asking a lot of $$$ for a horse that isn't even going into the ring anymore...

Makes me wonder

[TBKate]

Do they ever show anywhere other than Sumter Eq. Center? Poor boy, put him in a snaffle and let go of his face. :( You'd think they would have picked a more flattering sale picture.

If anyone wants a "student" to go try him out, I'll go! I love horse shopping, especially if it would help bust these people.

ETA: If anyone knows if they'll be showing him at Sumter next weekend, I can run down and check him out. Anyone want to buddy up?

[eponacowgirl]

I'd love for someone to go offer him something dirt cheap and see if he's desperate enough to take it!

If you go, bring a camera!

OMG, I love COTH!

[bugsynskeeter]

Poor guy! He deserves a much better home.

[tweeter]

His daughter is 17? Why was I thinking she was 12 or thereabouts? I'm so tempted to ask him if I can take him on trial, say for 3 months or so. And will they deliver?

Rotten picture.

[eponacowgirl]

His daughter is 17? Why was I thinking she was 12 or thereabouts? I'm so tempted to ask him if I can take him on trial, say for 3 months or so. And will they deliver?

Rotten picture.

Oh, can someone just do EXACTLY to him what he did to my friend? How stinkin' funny would that be?

I remember this being her last year for juniors or some such...

It is really a not flattering pic of him. I can't get over how big that pelham is. I mean, if you MUST use a pelham at least get a little rubber one with TINY shanks. But, by God, USE A SNAFFLE.

[BuddyRoo]

Not to be a fun hater....but they got wind of the thread last time didn't they? Might want to keep covert ops...covert....

I'm driving the crayola bus though when the time comes.

[TBKate]

I'd love for someone to go offer him something dirt cheap and see if he's desperate enough to take it!

If you go, bring a camera!

OMG, I love COTH!

Oh, I'd be taking the camera for sure! Maybe I can convince my pony jock she wants to show, and then we'd have a reason for an empty slot on the trailer...LOL!

[tweeter]

This is the second time I've wished I was back in FL. The first time was for the original thread.

Someone has got to go see this boy and tell them you want to see him ridden in a snaffle. :) And of course you want to video the ride, gotta be able to watch and think it over, ya know!

[eponacowgirl]

This is the second time I've wished I was back in FL. The first time was for the original thread.

Someone has got to go see this boy and tell them you want to see him ridden in a snaffle. :) And of course you want to video the ride, gotta be able to watch and think it over, ya know!

:yes::yes::yes::yes::yes::yes::yes::lol:

[CBudFrggy]

Well, I'd offer $1,500 and see if they take it. I think hay IS cheaper in Tampa than in So. Fla.

[tweeter]

First you have to have the 3 month trial, then you can offer 1000....but only if his PPE is perfect :D

[eponacowgirl]

First you have to have the 3 month trial, then you can offer 1000....but only if his PPE is perfect :D

Which we already know its not... so I think that brings us to.. $700?

[tweeter]

No perfect PPE? Well damn, then you have to ask them to pay up for the PPE before offering the $700. Ummm, and I think they need to send him to maybe CA for the trial?

[bugsynskeeter]

CA for the trial? Let's go all out and have him shipped to New Zealand.

[tweeter]

CA for the trial? Let's go all out and have him shipped to New Zealand.



Oh bugsy, I like the way you think!

[kcmel]

Wow, what an awful picture. Are they trying to NOT sell him? The ones ECG posted in the update were much better.

[tweeter]

I think we should all chip in $100, see how much we've got, and offer him that much. We could rename him Crayola Express! Then some lucky Cother could show him. That'd be soooo much fun.

[eponacowgirl]

Oh bugsy, I like the way you think!

Bugs, I knew there was a reason you're my friend.

[Posting Trot]

Okay, so could somebody tell me what the horse's name is so that I could go find him on the website too? Pretty please?

I read through the entire earlier saga and I can't go back to find the name or else the rest of the day will be shot.

[bugsynskeeter]

lol - glad to know that is the reason we are friends Epona.

How would we decide who shows said pony? I can ride hunters better then that girl and I'm a reiner now.

[eponacowgirl]

I think we should all chip in $100, see how much we've got, and offer him that much. We could rename him Crayola Express! Then some lucky Cother could show him. That'd be soooo much fun.

I'd start picking change off the floorboards and couch cushions for that!

[eponacowgirl]

Okay, so could somebody tell me what the horse's name is so that I could go find him on the website too? Pretty please?

I read through the entire earlier saga and I can't go back to find the name or else the rest of the day will be shot.

Sent a PM.

Geez, we're gluttons.

[tweeter]

If more than one peep wanted him, we could have a drawing of some sorts. I don't do leaping anymore, so I'd just be part of the syndicate.

Yup, Epona, I'd pick up cans by the side of the road if I had to. It'd really be fun tho.

[LearnToFly]

Why would anyone buy a horse with a name like that?
What a horrible thing to change it to! :D

[eponacowgirl]

The name in the ad is his JC name...

[LearnToFly]

ahhhh
gotcha.
Attack of the really bad JC names.
It's not as bad as "U the man Elvis" I'll give it that....

[nickers@dawn]

Ok, if they are only making a couple thousand dollars on the horse which they probably spent that much already on him.....what was the point in buying him in the first place?

[eponacowgirl]

Ok, if they are only making a couple thousand dollars on the horse which they probably spent that much already on him.....what was the point in buying him in the first place?

Well, they probably didn't intend to ruin him when they bought him! ;)

[nickers@dawn]

Ahhhhh.... I see. Maybe soon he will find a better, more suitable home.

[xEchox]

Can someone pm me the link?

[horse-loverz]

___________:cool:
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_______>>___>>
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For those that can't see the add. here is a stick art representation.. complete with double reins...

[Christa P]

Can someone pm me the link?

Add me to the list - I kept up with the first thread and I am too curious :yes:

Christa

[eponacowgirl]

___________:cool:
______~___/-=/>
_______>>___>>
________X=====X

For those that can't see the add. here is a stick art representation.. complete with double reins...

ROFLMAO!

I told HL that I wouldn't send her the link unless she created a stick-art representation... never one to disappoint, are you HL?

[Christa P]

All I can say is that is she is riding like that it is no wonder he won't go in the ring :no::eek:.

BTW - I like the name of the horse and trainer :lol::D'

Christa

[FolsomBlues]

Kate, if you need a partner in crime at Sumter I'm in, it's about half way between you and I. One of us can play "trainer" and one can play "student". And I'm assuming it would be BYOS (bring your own snaffle)!

[Christa P]

Also: If they have a counter on the ad they problably think they are getting all this interest in the horse :lol::lol::lol:.

Christa

[FolsomBlues]

Poor baby! I just looked at the ad, his back must hurt so bad! I've never seen a horse jump so his back formed a "U"! He needs a new bit, a chiropractor, and a new owner quick! Poor boy! Love the owners last name, sounds like sniveling, which I kind of imagine he is!

[CBudFrggy]

He wants to be an eventer. I can just tell! :winkgrin:

[Alagirl]

I think we should all chip in $100, see how much we've got, and offer him that much. We could rename him Crayola Express! Then some lucky Cother could show him. That'd be soooo much fun.


ROFL I still don't know what the crayola express is (other than pure COTH)

But that sounds hillarious
and it would be even more fun to watch the stands for snickers....those who lurk on COTH....:lol::lol::lol:

[ellebeaux]

CA for the trial? Let's go all out and have him shipped to New Zealand.

Hey! Great idea, I love this horse, I'll take him! As long as you are paying for shipping, I'm sure I can come up with $700...

[Guin]

Okay, I just added up my penny jar, and I have $7.50 in pennies that I'll contribute to the New Zealand plane fare. That poor horse. I think he wants to be turned out for six months or so. :no:

[ShowMeTheGlory]

Could someone please PM me the link for the ad? :winkgrin:

[Iron Horse Farm]

Add me to the list - I kept up with the first thread and I am too curious :yes:

Christa

I need the link too. It is really hard to lurk when you have to ask for stuff!

[tweeter]

He wants to be an eventer. I can just tell! :winkgrin:


Bet he'd make a kool eventer....and for colors, there are at least 64 of them :yes:

[eponacowgirl]

Bet he'd make a kool eventer....and for colors, there are at least 64 of them :yes:

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f377/McDoodle420/DSC_0221.jpg
http://b0.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/00425/00/31/425201300_l.jpg

I'm sure one of my friends can lend me her gear!

[TBKate]

Kate, if you need a partner in crime at Sumter I'm in, it's about half way between you and I. One of us can play "trainer" and one can play "student". And I'm assuming it would be BYOS (bring your own snaffle)!

I'm totally up for this, unless somebody closer is going to volunteer to go check him out. So COTHdogs, find out if the poor boy will be showing at Sumter on the 20th! And of course a nice big fat double-broken loose ring snaffle would be the first order of business. :yes:

[eyesontheground]

man that was easy to find...

cant wait to see where this goes!

(i missed the original incarnation of this story so i am reading it from the beginning...i am on page 52)

[Defying Logic]

Could someone PM me the link?

[tweeter]

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f377/McDoodle420/DSC_0221.jpg
http://b0.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/00425/00/31/425201300_l.jpg

I'm sure one of my friends can lend me her gear!

Perfect! And of course we'll have to redo his trailer too. Maybe we can get the Crayola people to sponsor him. We're wear our crayola suits to all events and shows.

Wow, this is gonna be fun :D

[birdsong]

I'm in Fl too though much further to the south...Please PM the link to me too....please, please????

[Beethoven]

OMG!! Poor horsie! I seriously want him. Now if I only had the cash. I am a sucker for big bay TBs. I wonder if he really did x-ray that bad or it was part of the whole deal...

[Cherry]

If more than one peep wanted him, we could have a drawing of some sorts. I don't do leaping anymore, so I'd just be part of the syndicate.
A breeder in my neck of the woods donated a POA gelding to the local 4-H Club. Every year they have a drawing and the person whose name is drawn gets to take the horse for a project that year--they free lease the horse, get to pay all the bills and their own entry fees for showing. This has been going on for years and seems to work out swell. :yes: ;)

Let's just hope this would work out better than that paper horse that COTHers were sending around the country. Does anyone know where that thing is right now??? :eek: :uhoh: :confused: :winkgrin: :lol:

[Alagirl]

Flat Chance? He's MIA for years now! :lol:

[gieriscm]

Could someone PM me the link?

+1. Please!

[Woodland]

I saw the link $9K!!!!!:confused: Quite a profit!

[lorilu]

Please send me the link so I know what to look for up at Sumpter next Sat.... if he's there, I'll see him!

If anyone else goes out to the show, I look forward to meeting you, too!
Loretta

[mustangtrailrider]

My drama llama is spitting at me. Can someone puhleaze send me the link of his ad for sale? I too am curious.

I hope this boy finds a better situation soon.

[pattnic]

I would like to see the ad, too, please. :yes:

[Bluehorsesjp]

ok now I really need to see the link as well..... Anyone want to help me out?

[StruckByLightning]

Oh, fer cryin out loud...just tell us what name the horse is under so we can all go look for ourselves. :p You know we have no self restraint...

[eponacowgirl]

Oh, fer cryin out loud...just tell us what name the horse is under so we can all go look for ourselves. :p You know we have no self restraint...

Am I allowed? Because, honestly, I'm REALLY sick of sending PMs.

http://www.pedigreequery.com/costly+traits

Go forth and find him.

http://www.flsporthorse.com/index.htm

Mods, edit out if you feel the need. I'll just keep PMing till my fingers fall off.

[Chardavej]

I guess I'm an idiot but does that sight not have a search feature???

[SillyHorse]

No, that site does not seem to have a search feature.

Poor horse. :no:

[eponacowgirl]

I guess I'm an idiot but does that sight not have a search feature???

Look at Florida horses for sale, then scroll past the premium ads. :)

[HunterJumperz]

So that the OP doesn't get flooded with PM's- the site in question is my personally owned web site -see below.
The horse is listed under basic listings.

Also, if I may speak on behalf of the kids-please be easy on them. I used to know them and they are actually really sweet kids. Try not to hold them responsible for any parent/trainer deal.

[StruckByLightning]

Thanks for posting the link! :)

(and I most certainly sympathise with nice kids stuck with less-than-stellar trainers/parents. Though I will also add the caveat that parents can be crappy as 'horse parents' but good parents overall :p Not that from the first thread dad sounded like anything other than a jerk of a human being...)

[pony4me]

Thanks for the link. There were a lot of nice horses on there. I hope "T" gets a new home, a new bit and a great new family.

[Kenike]

Anyone else not surprised by this? Poor T. If I could, I'd just wire them money and have him sent out here....but it's not in the cards for now. Poor guy. I hope he finds a loving and responsible home VERY quickly. One that will allow him to restore his confidence and let him have fun.

[Halt At X]

Aren't they even asking for more money than they ended up paying for him?

[eponacowgirl]

Aren't they even asking for more money than they ended up paying for him?

Yeah, about 2500 more. :uhoh:

[eponacowgirl]

So that the OP doesn't get flooded with PM's- the site in question is my personally owned web site -see below.
The horse is listed under basic listings.

Also, if I may speak on behalf of the kids-please be easy on them. I used to know them and they are actually really sweet kids. Try not to hold them responsible for any parent/trainer deal.

Thanks HJ! And yes, I've been told through various sources that the kids are good kids, too. Betcha dad just wants whats best for his girls... and tried a taaaad bit too hard.:rolleyes:

[sspry]

I know it is just a snap shot in time but... is that really the best picture they could find for an ad? I feel sorry for this horse.

[eponacowgirl]

I know it is just a snap shot in time but... is that really the best picture they could find for an ad? I feel sorry for this horse.

I wonder if they have that one framed on the mantle.

I give the poor horse credit for having his ears up, though...

[ChocoMare]

Oy vey. :rolleyes:

That horse is saint.

[Amwrider]

Aren't they even asking for more money than they ended up paying for him?

Wasn't dad proclaiming to everyone that he spent megabucs for the horse after...ahem...talking the sellers down?

I'll bet he feels like an idiot now pricing the horse for sale at $9k. Everyone will think he took a huge financial loss.

[birdsong]

bump...really curious what happens with T.

side note...I googled Dad and found him showing goats!!

[jeta]

I give the poor horse credit for having his ears up, though...


My observation as well....some horses just rise above their predicament and still try to do the best they can....This one must have a heart of gold......

[appychik]

Aww, poor boy. I hope he gets upgraded soon. He deserves it. :yes:

[eponacowgirl]

Do we have people going to the show this weekend?

[TBKate]

FolsomBlues and I can go to the show this weekend, if nobody near Winter Haven has checked on him yet. That is, assuming he's showing. Anybody find out if they'll even be at Sumter?

[Mini_Whinny]

I followed the original thread with horror and I am sure others saw this train wreck coming..it had whistles, blinding headlights and everything..but fell on deaf ears apparently.

Poor horse. I have never seen a horse jump like pegasus, and not in a pretty way. Let go of his face! Yikes! He is a saint for not dumping her off. You can see in his face he is being a patient guy. Hmm maybe his rearing is from being over bitted and having some chick hang off his face!

[eponacowgirl]

FolsomBlues and I can go to the show this weekend, if nobody near Winter Haven has checked on him yet. That is, assuming he's showing. Anybody find out if they'll even be at Sumter?

I'll bet her little sister is there showing, if not- she seems to be doing well. I think the update donkeyman posted was actually about the little sister, FWIW.

I guess if shes not at the show this weekend, someone gets to go incognito and check him out... armed with a snaffle bit! (And oh, I wish it were me...):lol:

[lorilu]

The closing date for the show was yesterday (Tues). Maybe they will post a class list on their website.
I'll be there on Sat after all. I'll keep my eyes open.
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[TB or not TB?]

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bump...

[Christa P]

Did he show?

BUMP
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Christa

[lorilu]

I was there yesterday for much of the day. I did not see him or hearhis name when classes were pinned..... maybe today?
Hopefully someone went down there and looked for him...
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[enjoytheride]

Ok, so I don't get why double reins are so evil and why someone can't sell a horse for more then you paid for him. Aren't you supposed to use two sets of reins on a pelham? Yeah it looks like an awful lot of bit for a hunter, but you see pelhams in EQ all the time. Hell I've seen people school in elevators then switch to the pelham to show. He also looks like he's jumping just about the same as with the orignal owner pic, his head might be more free with a less restrictive hold but his body and legs are still the same. I'm not sure how anyone can tell he needs back work from one picture.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v513/murrayprincess24/6.jpg

The add says he needs a quiet ride, maybe his current owner is a bit of a nervous nellie and he got a little fast with her. They tried a pelham then wisely decided to sell him when nothing else worked.

Since nobody here on COTH is ponying up the dough for a new home I hope he finds a better match with his next owner and that his current rider gets a more suitable horse for her needs and never wanders across this thread.

[KayBee]

Ok, so I don't get why double reins are so evil and why someone can't sell a horse for more then you paid for him. Aren't you supposed to use two sets of reins on a pelham? Yeah it looks like an awful lot of bit for a hunter, but you see pelhams in EQ all the time. Hell I've seen people school in elevators then switch to the pelham to show. He also looks like he's jumping just about the same as with the orignal owner pic, his head might be more free with a less restrictive hold but his body and legs are still the same. I'm not sure how anyone can tell he needs back work from one picture.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v513/murrayprincess24/6.jpg

The add says he needs a quiet ride, maybe his current owner is a bit of a nervous nellie and he got a little fast with her. They tried a pelham then wisely decided to sell him when nothing else worked.

Since nobody here on COTH is ponying up the dough for a new home I hope he finds a better match with his next owner and that his current rider gets a more suitable horse for her needs and never wanders across this thread.

You have to read the entire Florida Horse Saga (it may be in Favorites) to understand the interest over the ad.

[Woodland]

Ok, so I don't get why double reins are so evil and why someone can't sell a horse for more then you paid for him. Aren't you supposed to use two sets of reins on a pelham? Yeah it looks like an awful lot of bit for a hunter, but you see pelhams in EQ all the time. Hell I've seen people school in elevators then switch to the pelham to show. He also looks like he's jumping just about the same as with the orignal owner pic, his head might be more free with a less restrictive hold but his body and legs are still the same. I'm not sure how anyone can tell he needs back work from one picture.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v513/murrayprincess24/6.jpg

The add says he needs a quiet ride, maybe his current owner is a bit of a nervous nellie and he got a little fast with her. They tried a pelham then wisely decided to sell him when nothing else worked.

Since nobody here on COTH is ponying up the dough for a new home I hope he finds a better match with his next owner and that his current rider gets a more suitable horse for her needs and never wanders across this thread.


The pictures you posted made for interesting observation - hmmmm.....

Agreed on the pelham. I am not a fan for the youth horse to need one, but when i fox hunted my horses were by and large in a pelham - I wish I knew about elevators back then - LOL! see I had this horse......

And selling for more money? I do it all the time - it's business. HOWEVER the previous seller was SO jacked around by the present owner/seller it's hard not to get irate over this one. :(

[gloriginger]

Ok, so I don't get why double reins are so evil and why someone can't sell a horse for more then you paid for him. Aren't you supposed to use two sets of reins on a pelham? Yeah it looks like an awful lot of bit for a hunter, but you see pelhams in EQ all the time. Hell I've seen people school in elevators then switch to the pelham to show. He also looks like he's jumping just about the same as with the orignal owner pic, his head might be more free with a less restrictive hold but his body and legs are still the same. I'm not sure how anyone can tell he needs back work from one picture.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v513/murrayprincess24/6.jpg

The add says he needs a quiet ride, maybe his current owner is a bit of a nervous nellie and he got a little fast with her. They tried a pelham then wisely decided to sell him when nothing else worked.

Since nobody here on COTH is ponying up the dough for a new home I hope he finds a better match with his next owner and that his current rider gets a more suitable horse for her needs and never wanders across this thread.


Your post is like someone who sees the sequal to a movie without seeing the original and then asks questions, and is confused why they don't get the joke. You need to read the original thread, all of it, to understand the situation.

[eponacowgirl]

Your post is like someone who sees the sequal to a movie without seeing the original and then asks questions, and is confused why they don't get the joke. You need to read the original thread, all of it, to understand the situation.

Just popping in (after a weekend away) to say "what they said!" and see if anyone made it to the show this weekend?!

[Christa P]

Oh, boy, guys... this could get fun.

Note: This came from my friend, and there are three sides to every story (hers, theirs and the truth).

The FL owners called my friend on Monday... told her about how HORRIBLE "T" is and how he keeps getting worse and worse and they can't even get him IN the ring at shows anymore...

Last weekend, as soon as the girl mounted he started shaking and sweating, and he wouldn't walk in the gate- he was rearing and someone had to grab him and help her off he was so bad.

Oh, and do you want to buy him back?

Hellllooooo, seriously?! Needless to say, my friend is slightly distraught. She looked for him briefly but didn't find him on equine.com or dreamhorse.

Come on COTHdogs, find that horse!

I'd also be interested to know if this is true or not.



This is the first post from this thread and the main reason people figure he needs work.

Christa P

[Iron Horse Farm]

Ok, so I don't get why double reins are so evil and why someone can't sell a horse for more then you paid for him. Aren't you supposed to use two sets of reins on a pelham? Yeah it looks like an awful lot of bit for a hunter, but you see pelhams in EQ all the time. Hell I've seen people school in elevators then switch to the pelham to show.

Double reins aren't evil, however, they should be used by someone who can already ride and control a horse. Putting them in the hands (literally) of someone who is a nervous nellie in order to give her more control is asking for a disaster. When youknow a student hits her horse in the face at every fence, the answer is not to give her more bit! A good trainer knows this and would have either spent another year at home with horse and rider combor OR gotten nervous nellie a more suitable mount. But you know, there is no money in schooling students at home.

[SaraTx]

bump

[eponacowgirl]

NEW UPDATE!

Search youtube for:
Ice 080928

The email that was attached to the video link was from the FL trainer to her mom in IL (my friend's trainer). It basically said that "big sis" can't ride the horse, but "lil' sis" (trainer's pride and joy) can, shes the one riding in the video. Big sis can't handle the reality of that fact, so they're selling him. Trainer then snarks on the family a little bit. Cute, huh?

[Alagirl]

On youtube..... :eek:

Priceless!

[Woodland]

NEW UPDATE!

Search youtube for:
Ice 080928

The email that was attached to the video link was from the FL trainer to her mom in IL (my friend's trainer). It basically said that "big sis" can't ride the horse, but "lil' sis" (trainer's pride and joy) can, shes the one riding in the video. Big sis can't handle the reality of that fact, so they're selling him. Trainer then snarks on the family a little bit. Cute, huh?

Saw it - for an O/F horse there wasn't much o/f :( 9K - what are they smoking :confused:

[horse-loverz]

I liked how they said that they have a full set of x-rays and he is 100% sound..... didn't they get the origional seller to lower price due to problems found on those x-rays???? These people are real pieces of work and don't deserve animals if they are going to treat them like Kleenex. :no: