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freestyle2music
Aug. 31, 2008, 08:38 PM
Rumors that Rufus the horse of Brazilian rider Rodrigo Pessoa tested positive on doping are getting stronger and stronger now Rodrigo himself told the press "you can write about a positive A-testing, because that's seems to be true"


Rufus, het Olympische paard van Rodrigo Pessoa, wordt verdacht van doping. Op dit moment wordt er nog volop getest, maar het paard zou volgens het Duitse persbureau DPA, positief zijn getest voor een verboden substantie.
Pessoa, op dit moment op wedstrijd in Münster, werd telefonisch om een reactie gevraagd. De ruiter wilde in eerste instantie niet reageren maar zei toen opeens: "We moeten afwachten en kijken. Je kunt over een positief A-staal schrijven, want dat is niet compleet fout."
De internationale bond FEI wil de zaak vooralsnog niet bevestigen.

Eerder werden er al vijf gevallen van doping bevestigd tijdens de Olympische Spelen. Pessoa zou, indien de zaak wordt bevestigd, de vijfde springruiter zijn die wordt beschuldigd van het gebruik van doping. De Braziliaanse ruiter werd tijdens de individuele finale in Hong Kong vijfde.

canyonoak
Aug. 31, 2008, 08:52 PM
babelfish translation:

<<Rufus, the Olympic horse of Rodrigo Pessoa, become suspicious of doping. At this moment is there in abundance tested still, but the horse according to the German press office DPA, positively has been tested for prohibited a substance. Pessoa, at this moment on game in minster, were asked telephonically for a response. The rider do not want react in the first place but said then suddenly: " We must wait and look at. You can concerning a positive write, because that is not complete false." The international association FEI does not want confirm the matter as yet. Rather five cases of doping were already confirmed during the Olympic Games. Pessoa, if the matter it to confirm, the fifth springruiter will be be accused that of the use of doping. The Brazilian rider became during the individual final in Hong Kong fifth.>>


WOW, the FEI catches another major dope criminal arch-fiend!

I feel so much safer now, knowing the FEI is protecting horse sport!!!!!

ANd I particularly love the use of the word "doping" when applied to Equi-block and bandage spray and ultrasound gel!

And I just love the drug testing!

And what else do I love?

Why...I love the FEI! Maybe the FEI will get a gold star from WADA and go sit at the head of the class!

I award the Savanarola award to the fab drug testing team of the FEI. Long may you wear your dunce caps and lovingly touch your racks and pincers. ANd far be it from me to tell you that:
a) the earth revolves around the sun
b) your drug tests are ridiculously ,expensively, totally useless

ridgeback
Aug. 31, 2008, 08:54 PM
So does it say what tested positive with Rodrigo's horse?

DancingQueen
Aug. 31, 2008, 09:52 PM
Only that he tested positive for a prohibited substance.
I can read dutch and the babelfish translation is too funny. Makes me want to go get random stuff translated just to see what it does with he text. Ha ha!

Comes out understandable enough though.

canyonoak
Aug. 31, 2008, 09:56 PM
Although the FEI had no problems revealing capsaicin in the A-probe of the other jumping riders, and waiting until the Olympics were over to reveal the problems for Courtney K-D and Mythilus, in their infinite wisdom, the FEI has decided to wait until the B-sample is tested before announcing anything about Pessoa.

No doubt because other than interfering with Pessoa's life and reputation, the FEI is not screwing up their precious Olympic medals.

ANd yes, they have announced "it is another substance (than capsaicin)".

LexInVA
Aug. 31, 2008, 10:21 PM
I'm just waiting for them to find Viagra in some poor horse's sample. That would be a hoot.

Eventer13
Aug. 31, 2008, 10:41 PM
No doubt because other than interfering with Pessoa's life and reputation, the FEI is not screwing up their precious Olympic medals.

How would it screw up medals? Neither RP nor Brazil got anything.

belambi
Sep. 1, 2008, 10:28 AM
Update Doping / Medication Cases at the 2008 Olympic Games 01/09/2008 View online
The FEI has received notification of an additional and final doping/medication case at the 2008 Olympic Games involving rider Rodrigo Pessoa (BRA) and his horse Rufus. A test carried out on the horse following the individual final revealed an A sample that tested positive for the banned substance nonivamide, part of the capsaicinoid family and classified as a« doping » prohibited substance given its hypersensitizing properties, and as a « medication class A » prohibited substance for its pain relieving properties.


The sample was received by the laboratory on Saturday 23 August following the individual Jumping Final at which Rodrigo Pessoa and Rufus placed fifth. A preliminary hearing was held by teleconference at 17h00 on 28 August before a member of the FEI Tribunal and the suspension was confirmed on 29 August.

The B sample test is scheduled for Tuesday 2 September in Hong Kong.


Should the B sample confirm the findings of the A sample the process will follow the Accelerated Medication Control Procedure during & after the 2008 Olympic Games which is part of the FEI Regulations for Equestrian events at the 2008 Olympic Games (Annex G), available on FEI Olympic website.

Evidence and written submissions will be requested and a hearing will be held before the FEI Tribunal. However it is up to the Person Responsible whether or not they wish to exercise or waive their right to be heard. The panel will then, in light of all the evidence received, take a decision as to the applicable sanction if any.


An update will be provided by the FEI following the result of the B sample and subsequently further updates regarding the hearing and final decision.

The competition results will be amended as indicated in the Tribunal’s final decision.

In terms of testing at the 2008 Olympic Games, all results have now been received, and there are no remaining cases to be reported.

canyonoak
Sep. 1, 2008, 10:38 AM
So let me get this straight.

Of the presumable 15 horses tested, 5 test positive for the same susbtance, more or less.

5 of 15 = 30%.

Athough according to their own news items, the FEI has had the protocol for thermography in place since 2006 and blared to the rooftops that they would be using thermography at Hong Kong...they,um, decided not to do so. Giving as a reason that the protocol which was ready in 2006 was now not ready in 2008.
This after a 3-year study done with University of California at Davis.

The FEI needs to be either re-organized or better still, replaced and re-staffed.

Not merely the drug test protocols, but the crappy PR, the ridiculous legal system, the emphasis on everything but the priorities of horse sport and horse welfare/health...the FEI is useless.

And just wondering aloud here: how come Pessoa got to go in the individual round but Tony Hansen did not?

Get the dunce caps ready.

belambi
Sep. 1, 2008, 10:44 AM
Excellent post. Worth keeping in mind that there was ONLY one pos test to any other product..and that was POSSIBLEY/PROBABLY/HOPEFULLY accidental transadimistered.
I hope every one has a really good legal team, I am curious as to why NO eventers have tested to this ingredient.

belambi
Sep. 1, 2008, 10:45 AM
PS..The pessoa test was from the INDIVIDUAL final..ie..the last round.After the comp.

PineTreeFarm
Sep. 1, 2008, 11:45 AM
So let me get this straight.

Of the presumable 15 horses tested, 5 test positive for the same susbtance, more or less.



I don't think anybody other than the FEI/lab/ioc knows how many horses were tested in total. I think FEI released number of horses tested for the team event but haven't seen a number for the individual competition .

At least two separate rounds of testing would have taken place. One for the team event and one for the individual event.

gottagrey
Sep. 1, 2008, 11:52 PM
babelfish translation:


WOW, the FEI catches another major dope criminal arch-fiend!

I feel so much safer now, knowing the FEI is protecting horse sport!!!!!

ANd I particularly love the use of the word "doping" when applied to Equi-block and bandage spray and ultrasound gel

I couldn't agree more !

Doping sounds a bit harsh - very Dick Francis -

EMWalker
Sep. 2, 2008, 12:10 AM
I agree with CanyonOak... 30% of the horses tested, testing positive for pretty much the same substance - very strange. I am getting a fishy smell... anyone else!?!?

Geneva
Sep. 2, 2008, 12:31 AM
I agree with CanyonOak... 30% of the horses tested, testing positive for pretty much the same substance - very strange. I am getting a fishy smell... anyone else!?!?That might make sense had all 4 of the original group of 4 positives not already publicly admitted to using products which contained the banned substance in question.

It was announced publicly that the intent was to test about 40% of the horses competing, and that was likely what was done.

Some 50 to 60 tests will be carried out, including all the first three horses in each trial as well as some others selected by the ground jury and the testing veterinarians. This represents about 40% of all competing horses.

http://www.fei.org/olympics/ANTIDOPING/Horses/Pages/default.aspx


And just wondering aloud here: how come Pessoa got to go in the individual round but Tony Hansen did not?

Get the dunce caps ready.LMFAO. Where's yours?

canyonoak
Sep. 2, 2008, 10:26 AM
Yah, belambi already pointed out that Rufus was tested after the individual round--so I will put on a SHORT dunce cap.

But the FEI gets the real ones--and they get to sit in the corner for a looooong time-out.

SHoddy testing, shoddy PR and general stupidity.

Those are the charges.

<g>

justalittlex
Sep. 2, 2008, 12:20 PM
It was probably a product in a gift bag.

only_sunshine
Sep. 5, 2008, 09:27 PM
The FEI needs to be either re-organized or better still, replaced and re-staffed.

Not merely the drug test protocols, but the crappy PR, the ridiculous legal system, the emphasis on everything but the priorities of horse sport and horse welfare/health...the FEI is useless.

Get the dunce caps ready.

Sounds like all governmental systems, to me. ; )

It sounds as if the FEI is waging its own War On Drugs ... and it is about as effective as the US government's. Maybe the International Equestrian Foundation would like to have some of Bush's cabinet after he retires. ; )

We should form a group called the Equi-Anarchists, and stage a War Against the (FEI) War On Drugs.