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*jumper*
Aug. 28, 2008, 12:40 AM
Here I was, thinking I was amid a group of respectful, helpful adults on COTH. Apparently I was wrong. :no:

Is it really that difficult to be respectful? Honestly, I know it's easier and funnier to ridicule someone or have a laugh at something they did or said, but does it give you more satisfaction than taking the high road? If not, then I'm glad I could be your entertainment for the day.

Many thanks to those who were kind and helpful. :)

greysandbays
Aug. 28, 2008, 02:34 AM
Are you just making up words to make yourself feel bright?

I'm pretty sure "equestrianism" isn't even a real word. Why would a word like "horsemanship" even need such an idiot identifier when the word "horsemanship" has served well in that capacity for at least several hundred years?

Anyway, "equestrianism" as a word wouldn't be having anything actually to do with HORSES. It would be having to do with the people who are equestrians.

Frank B
Aug. 28, 2008, 08:11 AM
Sounds like a religion to me! :lol:

caradino
Aug. 28, 2008, 10:26 AM
i am also fairly sure that "equestrianism" is not a real word.

pines4equines
Aug. 28, 2008, 10:45 AM
Equestrianism is all about riding-ism...:lol:

philosoraptor
Aug. 28, 2008, 10:47 AM
Is that really a word? Let me go look it up in my dictionaryism. brb

Eclectic Horseman
Aug. 28, 2008, 10:53 AM
Apparently it is in the Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary and has an established meaning-

"equestrianism."

E*ques"tri*an*ism\, n. The art of riding on horseback; performance on horseback; horsemanship; as, feats equestrianism.

<http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/equestrianism (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/equestrianism)>.

Sdhaurmsmom
Aug. 28, 2008, 11:01 AM
Sounds like a not-even-very-disguised plug for your blog.:winkgrin:

Honestly - you didn't really care what we thought about the term equestrianism, did you? You wanted us to check out your blog and get a bit of traffic.

Be honest, now!

goeslikestink
Aug. 28, 2008, 11:10 AM
ha ha-- whats in the real world in comparison is it one thing

one thing or serveral things

the equine industry is of many things and many spin offs so cant be learnt as one thing
why

for starters -- you use all your body and the horses to thats several things happen together
or

theres you- and a horse------and nothing happens - as before you get on it you got to catch it

equineartworks
Aug. 28, 2008, 11:19 AM
It's the tomato, tom*a*tow thing. :D

*jumper* not anything to do with topic really, but I would recommend placing photo credits etc. for the images on the site unless you took them in Beijing yourself. And if that is the case, do yourself a HUGE favor and watermark/copyright mark and credit them. You can get your blog shut down very quickly unless you cross your t's and dot your i's and people steal images from blogs constantly. :)

Jeff Wolf
Aug. 28, 2008, 12:48 PM
That's too bad that you can't ride. Good of you to cite your own circumstance to make the point, though.:)

We do a lot of that manure removal stuff, and feeding, and the shots of course, and pasture management. We have trained our own, or participated in their training, study diseases of the horse (and donkey), have a pretty elaborate medical kit, assist the neighbors with the foalings in the spring, and ride quite a bit, on our own propertry as well as the private and BLM lands to the south. Short of competing or showing, we pretty much do everything that could reasonably come under the definition of "horsemanship". We'll let others that have seen our place and our horses decide just how proficient we are at it.

Sorry about your "not riding" thing. Hope you get over that. We sure do enjoy ours!


"equestrianism" and "horsemanship"


example: I don't ride, but I feed horses and shovel manure. I feel that I practice good horsemanship, because it isn't about riding.

Sithly
Aug. 28, 2008, 01:01 PM
That's too bad that you can't ride. Good of you to cite your own circumstance to make the point, though.:)

We do a lot of that manure removal stuff, and feeding, and the shots of course, and pasture management. We have trained our own, or participated in their training, study diseases of the horse (and donkey), have a pretty elaborate medical kit, assist the neighbors with the foalings in the spring, and ride quite a bit, on our own propertry as well as the private and BLM lands to the south. Short of competing or showing, we pretty much do everything that could reasonably come under the definition of "horsemanship". We'll let others that have seen our place and our horses decide just how proficient we are at it.

Sorry about your "not riding" thing. Hope you get over that. We sure do enjoy ours!

What a weird response. Is there some sort of feud between you two? :lol:

Jeff Wolf
Aug. 28, 2008, 02:00 PM
What? You think I misunderstood? You think that he wasn't talking about his own situation? :eek: ;)
(The original post has been altered for "clarification", you'll notice). :lol:

Hmm....hadn't considered that...:lol:

There are a couple of schools of thought out there about what constitutes "Horsemanship". 7HL and I disagree on the role riding plays in it's definition. I think you can be a horseman without riding, or a rider without horsemanship. In other words, riding by itself doesn't guarantee the rider is a horseman.

Horsemanship, in my opinion, involves the total emersion in the horse and includes all aspects of their use and care. Riding is fun, but I've known (and still do) people that could sit a horse and even stay on, but didn't know enough about their behavior or care. The aforementioned member believes that my wife and I do not approve of riding, or don't ride, or don't ride enough, or something. One or the other of us rides almost every day, so I'm not sure exactly what that's about, but it makes for some amusing exchanges. :D




What a weird response. Is there some sort of feud between you two? :lol:

Dispatcher
Aug. 28, 2008, 02:03 PM
Apparently it is in the Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary and has an established meaning-

"equestrianism."

E*ques"tri*an*ism\, n. The art of riding on horseback; performance on horseback; horsemanship; as, feats equestrianism.

<http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/equestrianism (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/equestrianism)>.


Oh god, what's next? Flatting? Lessoning? Clinicing?

caradino
Aug. 28, 2008, 02:15 PM
Oh god, what's next? Flatting? Lessoning? Clinicing?

as one who dearly loves this english language, this also frightens me a great deal...

Sithly
Aug. 28, 2008, 02:16 PM
I read the post before it was edited. I just thought your reply was oddly snide and personal, which didn't quite fit in the context of this thread. So naturally I thought it was the result of a 300-year family feud, that you two fought on opposite sides of a World War, or he'd kicked your dog.

Regardless, I don't disagree with your definition of horsemanship.

And for the record, I think "equestrianism" is a colossaly stupid word.

Eclectic Horseman
Aug. 28, 2008, 02:17 PM
as one who dearly loves this english language, this also frightens me a great deal...

Why? All language evolves with time. Dictionaries are descriptive, not prescriptive.

Dispatcher
Aug. 28, 2008, 02:33 PM
Why? All language evolves with time. Dictionaries are descriptive, not prescriptive.

I think the english language has evolved as much as it's going to. Words like lessoning, flatting, etc. are simply made up colloquialisms. Just because you can make a new sound does not make it a new word to be "officially" added to the entire language.

Made up words may increase your vocabulary and get added to dictionaries, but they do not follow protocol. Kinda like "ain't". It's a word, but it is still not proper grammar.

Eclectic Horseman
Aug. 28, 2008, 02:48 PM
I think the english language has evolved as much as it's going to. Words like lessoning, flatting, etc. are simply made up colloquialisms. Just because you can make a new sound does not make it a new word to be "officially" added to the entire language.

Made up words may increase your vocabulary and get added to dictionaries, but they do not follow protocol. Kinda like "ain't". It's a word, but it is still not proper grammar.

The english language is one thing--rules of grammar are another. But even the rules of grammar are not as set in stone as you might think.

Dispatcher
Aug. 28, 2008, 02:51 PM
The english language is one thing--rules of grammar are another. But even the rules of grammar are not as set in stone as you might think.


Well, that's true. But just becasue everyone starts using poor grammar, does not make it right. The rules of grammar SHOULD be set in stone. That's why they are "rules". But nowadays, it seems rules don't mean much to a lot of people.

Guess I'm just turning into a curmudgeon as I age........

*jumper*
Aug. 28, 2008, 03:31 PM
Whoa.

A) This is not "a plug for my blog." I don't care if you look at my blog, condemn it, delete it from your memory, whatever. Honestly.

B) I did not make up to word equestrianism. I could post links to a few different dictionary definitions of it, but that's already been done.

C) I figured it would be nice to see what other people think equestrianism or horsemanship is. I want to know what it means to them and how they interpret it. End of story.

Sorry if I came across in a different way. Sorry if I'm "making up" words. Search "equestrianism" on youtube, and you'll find a number of videos that try to illustrate that very word.

I don't know why this is such a big deal. I posted this same query on another forum and I already have a ton of great responses, more than enough for the article I want to write. :yes:

ETA: Thanks, equineartworks, for the tip. I've been meaning to do that. Most of all, thanks for saying so nicely. :)

And goeslikestink...I'd also like to thank you for you answer.:)

Beverley
Aug. 28, 2008, 03:43 PM
It doesn't appear in any of my preferred dictionaries e.g. American College Dictionary. But hey, making up definitions for made-up words can be fun, I'll give it a shot.

equestrianism. n. The practice of appearing to be a horseman without having acquired the actual knowledge of horsemanship.

synonym: Parelliism.

Gee, that was kinda fun.:cool:

zagafi
Aug. 28, 2008, 03:52 PM
Sadly, "lessoning" and "clinicing" seem to have always made their way into the vernacular. Drives me batshit crazy. Yes, it bugs me *that much*. I paid good money for that degree in English, you know!

greysandbays
Aug. 28, 2008, 06:19 PM
It doesn't appear in any of my preferred dictionaries e.g. American College Dictionary. But hey, making up definitions for made-up words can be fun, I'll give it a shot.

equestrianism. n. The practice of appearing to be a horseman without having acquired the actual knowledge of horsemanship.

synonym: Parelliism.

Gee, that was kinda fun.:cool:

:lol: :yes:

*jumper*
Aug. 28, 2008, 07:35 PM
Really?

I joined COTH a few years ago thinking I'd be able to discuss and interact with a more mature group of people (I'm 17 and was tired of the usual teen antics of other equine forums).

Clearly, I was mistaken. While I've gotten a ton of great advice here, I'm still amazed by how so many people can hide behind a screen name and be just plain mean and/or rude.

I thought the word was a real word. I am mistaken. Apparently a word has to be in all dictionaries known to man to be "real." Yes, I realized "equestrianism" is more of a slang term than a hard and fast word, but I have heard professionals in the equine industry use it. Silly me for thinking I could too!

pines4equines
Aug. 28, 2008, 08:26 PM
I kinda like clinicing...But would it be clinicking? Like colicking?

Sue from Auckland
Aug. 28, 2008, 10:26 PM
.....Guess I'm just turning into a curmudgeon as I age........ Can I join you in the curmudgeon corner? Although down here going flatting has been in the vernacular for many years (meaning to live in a flat/apartment with other people) - clinicing on the other hand just sounds wierd.

greysandbays
Aug. 28, 2008, 10:43 PM
Really?

I joined COTH a few years ago thinking I'd be able to discuss and interact with a more mature group of people (I'm 17 and was tired of the usual teen antics of other equine forums).

Clearly, I was mistaken. While I've gotten a ton of great advice here, I'm still amazed by how so many people can hide behind a screen name and be just plain mean and/or rude.

I thought the word was a real word. I am mistaken. Apparently a word has to be in all dictionaries known to man to be "real." Yes, I realized "equestrianism" is more of a slang term than a hard and fast word, but I have heard professionals in the equine industry use it. Silly me for thinking I could too!

Silly you is right. "Isms" are rarely good things: communism, socialism, racism, alcholism, the list goes on. What the hell made you think "equestrianism" had anything to recommend it?

*jumper*
Aug. 28, 2008, 10:53 PM
Silly you is right. "Isms" are rarely good things: communism, socialism, racism, alcholism, the list goes on. What the hell made you think "equestrianism" had anything to recommend it?

Do you enjoy ridiculing me? I already stated that I'm 17, and obviously am not blessed with the wisdom and gift for words that you are. Like I said, I joined to COTH a few years ago with the hope that I would learn and be able to discuss equine issues with adults. Can you not say something nicely? Is it really that difficult? It may be stretch for you, but try it some time. Please.

BCEVENTER
Aug. 28, 2008, 11:12 PM
*jumper* there is one thing I have learned (coming from a fellow younger COTH'er). Never ever ever post anything unless you are ready to be flamed for it- majory. I'm sorry everyone is being so rude.

Beverley
Aug. 28, 2008, 11:19 PM
Hey Jumper. Your communication skills are just fine. Take a deep breath. Develop a sense of humor. And realize that the tone of the post as typed is often different than the tone of the post as perceived by the reader.

Recognize, when you are communicating with old farts, that if some of us heard a professional horseman use some newfangled term, we would be skeptical of that 'horseman's' ability. Recognize too that children of the '60s are maybe a little different. Maybe it was the brownies, maybe not.

If you wanted to be cross-generationally encouraging for input for your blog, you might consider something like 'I'm looking for input on how you define horsemanship, called equestrianism by some.'

If you want another idea for a blog, find and read Xenophon's writings on horsemanship. See whether you think that the writings from 2500 years ago are still valid today. I'll give you my opinion if you start a thread looking for input.:)

Nobody is ridiculing you, or even being particularly rude. They are ridiculing the idea. Know the difference. The ideas of Galileo and Newton and many others were widely ridiculed, too. So figure out how you want to handle ridicule. And rudeness, for that matter- you'll encounter it all your life. Up to you to decide whether you are going to let it bother you.:cool:

*jumper*
Aug. 28, 2008, 11:48 PM
Hey Jumper. Your communication skills are just fine. Take a deep breath. Develop a sense of humor. And realize that the tone of the post as typed is often different than the tone of the post as perceived by the reader.

Recognize, when you are communicating with old farts, that if some of us heard a professional horseman use some newfangled term, we would be skeptical of that 'horseman's' ability. Recognize too that children of the '60s are maybe a little different. Maybe it was the brownies, maybe not.

If you wanted to be cross-generationally encouraging for input for your blog, you might consider something like 'I'm looking for input on how you define horsemanship, called equestrianism by some.'

If you want another idea for a blog, find and read Xenophon's writings on horsemanship. See whether you think that the writings from 2500 years ago are still valid today. I'll give you my opinion if you start a thread looking for input.:)

Nobody is ridiculing you, or even being particularly rude. They are ridiculing the idea. Know the difference. The ideas of Galileo and Newton and many others were widely ridiculed, too. So figure out how you want to handle ridicule. And rudeness, for that matter- you'll encounter it all your life. Up to you to decide whether you are going to let it bother you.:cool:

Thanks for responding to me in a respectful manner. I agree that I took some posters' responses too literally, but I did find some of the things said a bit too rude, especially after I made it clear that I was uncomfortable with the way things were heading. Nevertheless, I realize that many of you are just having fun, but I did expect a little more respect. I should have worded my original post differently, as I did come off a touch strong. I did not in anyway mean for it to act as an advertisement, and I sincerely apologize if it did, because I myself hate seeing stuff like that on COTH.

With that said, I have heard "equestrianism" mentioned many times, and thus did not even consider it a faddish term or something one would make up. Again, completely my mistake, and I apologize for the confusion. I hope you all don't think I'm an idiot because of my logic, and I really do hope I gave you all a laugh.

Lastly, I have read a bit (and I emphasize a small sampling!) of Xenophon's writings, and found them incredibly fascinating and actually quite applicable today. I will definitely look into them more.

*jumper*
Aug. 28, 2008, 11:50 PM
*jumper* there is one thing I have learned (coming from a fellow younger COTH'er). Never ever ever post anything unless you are ready to be flamed for it- majory. I'm sorry everyone is being so rude.

:)

I should have learned by now, shouldn't I? :lol:

greysandbays
Aug. 29, 2008, 12:17 AM
Do you enjoy ridiculing me? I already stated that I'm 17, and obviously am not blessed with the wisdom and gift for words that you are. Like I said, I joined to COTH a few years ago with the hope that I would learn and be able to discuss equine issues with adults. Can you not say something nicely? Is it really that difficult? It may be stretch for you, but try it some time. Please.

Oh, pull your head out. What I said isn't even on the same planet with "ridiculing" you. When you get old enough to have some sense, you'll realize that people are doing you no favors by blowing smoke up your butt.

If an idea can't stand up to a trial by fire, it was a crappy idea to start with. The exploration of ideas is not a pink tea party or an "aren't I wonderful" preening session. It's a brual, torturous process that picks the bones of foolishness bare and leaves them to bleach in the glaring sun of enlightenment.

*jumper*
Aug. 29, 2008, 12:29 AM
Oh, pull your head out. What I said isn't even on the same planet with "ridiculing" you. When you get old enough to have some sense, you'll realize that people are doing you no favors by blowing smoke up your butt.

If an idea can't stand up to a trial by fire, it was a crappy idea to start with. The exploration of ideas is not a pink tea party or an "aren't I wonderful" preening session. It's a brual, torturous process that picks the bones of foolishness bare and leaves them to bleach in the glaring sun of enlightenment.

I don't so much mind your message--that the title of my blog is silly, unremarkable, faddish--but the way you get your message across. I don't expect this "trial by fire" to be trial by rainbows, but I do expect a little respect. It's in the way you word things; saying "The name 'equestrianism' is a bit pompous and perhaps won't be taken seriously; try a more mainstream and creditable term" is a much nicer way of restating some of the statements made earlier in the post.

I highly value respect, and if people choose not to return that same quality, I tend not to take their advice or opinions seriously. With that said, I think I'll take my crappy idea, bleached bones and all, and run with it. ;)

greysandbays
Aug. 29, 2008, 12:51 AM
Thanks for the insight. I think I'll take my crappy idea, bleached bones and all, and run with it. ;)

ETA: I never liked having smoke blown up my butt, so I guess I got lucky there, huh?

So you crab at me for NOT blowing smoke up your butt, then in the next breath you are whining that you don't like smoke blowed up your butt?????

Oh well, I guess that's the way a 17 year old mind works....

Beverley
Aug. 29, 2008, 11:01 AM
Jumper, on the one hand, in the general humanist sense, 'all' human beings on this planet deserve respect. On the other hand, I taught my kids, and I bet your Momma taught you, to respect one's elders. Age has its privileges. So, while it's great that you value respect, everyone should, it is a bit of a stretch to wade into a gathering of folks older than you and conveying a 'hey everybody, stop and respect ME' message, which you have, whether you intended to or not.

As greysandbays noted, any idea needs to withstand scrutiny and lively discussion. Like Harry Truman said, if you can't stand the heat, you need to get out of the kitchen. Respect is earned in part by seeing how a person deals with a little adversity.

War Admiral
Aug. 29, 2008, 11:21 AM
Jumper, on the one hand, in the general humanist sense, 'all' human beings on this planet deserve respect. On the other hand, I taught my kids, and I bet your Momma taught you, to respect one's elders. Age has its privileges. So, while it's great that you value respect, everyone should, it is a bit of a stretch to wade into a gathering of folks older than you and conveying a 'hey everybody, stop and respect ME' message, which you have, whether you intended to or not.

Well, but the problem there is that some people on the thread have been flat-asp rude to the kid, which is ill-mannered and certainly not deserving of HER respect. I think she's entitled to ask for equal treatment.

If you treat people with courtesy, generally speaking (though not here, as of late :rolleyes:) they will respond in kind.

I would like to ask the Grammar Cops just exactly HOW any 17-year-old is supposed to KNOW that "equestrianism" is "not a word", in your limited and restricted world view, when (a) her preferred dictionary includes it, and (b) every single day throughout the recent Olympics, the non-horsey mainstream TV, newspaper and online commentators have referred to "the sport of equestrian" and "equestrianism"?

Mind you: those terms drive me nuts, too, but I can certainly see how *jumper* would assume (quite rightly, too, as it turns out) that they are correct terms to use.

Welcome to COTH, *jumper*. Sorry they're giving you such a hard time. You're obviously literate & I'm sure you'll be an asset here. :yes:

*jumper*
Aug. 29, 2008, 12:15 PM
Thank you thank you, thank you, War Admiral. :) I felt like I was going crazy.

I already said that I apologize for my original message, twice, I believe, so no need to repeat. I never came here asking for someone to tell me what a great idea I had. I wanted opinions, and I guess I got them, just in a manner that wasn't as kindly as I would have expected. I learned--I'll know what to expect next time, and I'll be more careful on COTH.

This whole thread is a mess, and I'd like not to dwell on it.

caffeinated
Aug. 29, 2008, 12:25 PM
Oh, pull your head out. What I said isn't even on the same planet with "ridiculing" you. When you get old enough to have some sense, you'll realize that people are doing you no favors by blowing smoke up your butt.

If an idea can't stand up to a trial by fire, it was a crappy idea to start with. The exploration of ideas is not a pink tea party or an "aren't I wonderful" preening session. It's a brual, torturous process that picks the bones of foolishness bare and leaves them to bleach in the glaring sun of enlightenment.


Have you ever said anything nice to anybody on here?

Beverley
Aug. 29, 2008, 12:25 PM
Well, but the problem there is that some people on the thread have been flat-asp rude to the kid, which is ill-mannered and certainly not deserving of HER respect. I think she's entitled to ask for equal treatment.

If you treat people with courtesy, generally speaking (though not here, as of late :rolleyes:) they will respond in kind.

Offhand I don't know Jumper's gender, but as you note in the last line above, looks like equal treatment was dispensed!

Honestly, sometimes I think rudeness is in the eye of the beholder. In rereading the posts (some of them seem to have disappeared), people are mostly reacting to an idea, a newfangled madeup word, not to the poster. 'Shoot the messenger' syndrome- maybe. Some of us do bemoan the dumbing down of the English language- and people have been doing that for decades.

I don't personally lose a whole lot of sleep if someone is rude to me. Their problem, not mine. Life's too short to worry about things I can't control. I probably have a much thicker hide than some, but really, this BB seems pretty tame to me in terms of manners, compared to others I've seen over the years.

Jeff Wolf
Aug. 29, 2008, 01:17 PM
I've not been a member here too long, but others have told me - and I've seen for myself to some extent - that this forum tends to be meaner-spirited and snarkier than others. I don't know why that is, but I don't think it has to be that way.

Does it cost extra to make a point with courtesy? One can be courteous without blowing smoke...somewhere. I have a daughter Jumper's age. the quickest way to get her to stop listening is to start from a position of disrespect and harshness.

Treat people better than you have to. At some point they may teach you they aren't worthy of respect, but until then, what is the harm? :cool:

tkhawk
Aug. 29, 2008, 01:40 PM
Well I must confess I never heard of the term "Equestrianism" before. But I did check out your blog and it looks nice...

ArtilleryHill
Aug. 29, 2008, 04:01 PM
From an article in the British newspaper The Evening Standard's online edition from July 28, a piece by Andrew Gilligan. Posted in another COTH forum, but the last line caught my eye:

At a recent Standard debate, Olympics chief Lord Coe said having the equestrianism at Greenwich would open up the sport to new inner-city audiences. The blunt truth is that Greenwich will shut out not just potential new followers of equestrianism but also many of the people who already watch.

Good gracious. Twice, no less!

Gem Twist
Aug. 29, 2008, 05:44 PM
:rolleyes:

Jumper, I have no idea why you got this kind of response for a question like this. It's totally ridiculous.

Incidentally, I always thought that equestrianism is a noun meaning "equestrian sports." I've found, after looking it up, that it is.

You write very well. Keep writing, keep posting, forget about all these grumps.

*jumper*
Aug. 29, 2008, 06:53 PM
:rolleyes:
Incidentally, I always thought that equestrianism is a noun meaning "equestrian sports." I've found, after looking it up, that it is.

I've found that there a few different meanings for it. I think it's just something that people have gradually adopted as a sort of blanket word for horsemanship, riding, etc. The definition I have on my header I copied word for word from some dictionary website a year ago; I have no doubt there are a few other definitions of it out there, and I'm sure yours is just as valid! (I actually like the one you mentioned better!)

And thank you very much for the compliment. :)

greysandbays
Aug. 30, 2008, 01:29 AM
Have you ever said anything nice to anybody on here?

Yup.

JoZ
Aug. 30, 2008, 01:43 AM
Yup.

I think a link would be appropriate.

silver2
Aug. 30, 2008, 01:47 AM
Equestrianism is when you, like, lesson a lot with a trainer and even clinic with the judges but then you go to a show and you are not the winningest horse there but you still stud your horse out and the colts do really well, especially the fillies, but you're totally cool with it and buy beers for everyone anyway.

At least I think so. I'm not so good at Boogle.

holyhorsesbatman
Oct. 11, 2008, 08:22 PM
i.e. It doesn't appear in any of my preferred dictionaries e.g. American College Dictionary. But hey, making up definitions for made-up words can be fun, I'll give it a shot.

equestrianism. n. The practice of appearing to be a horseman without having acquired the actual knowledge of horsemanship.

synonym: Parelliism.

Gee, that was kinda fun.

Main Entry: COTHers
Pronunciation: \ˈbiches\
Function: noun pl.
Etymology: Middle English bicche, from Old English bicce
Date: before 12th century

1: the females of the dog or some other carnivorous mammals
2 a: lewd or immoral women; b: malicious, spiteful, or overbearing women —sometimes used as a generalized term of abuse
3: things that are extremely difficult, objectionable, or unpleasant
4: complaints

zagafi
Oct. 12, 2008, 09:22 AM
i.e.
Main Entry: COTHers
Pronunciation: \ˈbiches\
Function: noun pl.
Etymology: Middle English bicche, from Old English bicce
Date: before 12th century

1: the females of the dog or some other carnivorous mammals
2 a: lewd or immoral women; b: malicious, spiteful, or overbearing women —sometimes used as a generalized term of abuse
3: things that are extremely difficult, objectionable, or unpleasant
4: complaints



OMG! Thank you for the best laugh I've had in a while!

Kementari
Oct. 12, 2008, 03:55 PM
Silly you is right. "Isms" are rarely good things: communism, socialism, racism, alcholism, the list goes on. What the hell made you think "equestrianism" had anything to recommend it?

I'm not overly fond of the coinage either, personally, but I'm excited to learn that you agree that Republicanism and conservatism are not "good things" - though I wonder about the beef you have with realism, heroism, or even Judaism. :rolleyes:

greysandbays
Oct. 12, 2008, 09:44 PM
I'm not overly fond of the coinage either, personally, but I'm excited to learn that you agree that Republicanism and conservatism are not "good things" - though I wonder about the beef you have with realism, heroism, or even Judaism. :rolleyes:

The key word here would have been "rarely". There's way more bad isms than good isms. Anyway, I'm not sure there is any such thing as "Republicanism" -- or Democratism, either for that matter.

As this "equestrianism" word stands, it's stupid. It would be like saying communistism, socialistism, alcholicism, racistism, realistism, ect. An -ism suffix modifies a word to extend its meaning. It makes no sense to add it to a word that is already a modification of the orginal.

jeano
Oct. 13, 2008, 07:50 AM
i object to eveyone's equestrist statements.

Raji
Oct. 13, 2008, 10:12 AM
Respect - Consideration or thoughtfulness. An archaic word soon to be removed from Webster's dictionary due to misuse.

When civilization as we know it is long gone, the future linguists will have an easier time deciphering "isms" that were used than they will the use of WWYD, LOL, BNT, BRB, etc.

I commend any young person for asking that their inquiries be treated respectfully as long as they were respectful inquiring. Elders should be treated with respect but they have the obligation to also be respectful. We do not see a lot of that today especially on the internet.

There are several posters that I would not take lessons from or send my horse into training with due to their apparent lack of respect (consideration or thoughtfulness)

Just My Humble Opinion (lost the cheat sheet so had to spell it all out)

2DogsFarm
Oct. 13, 2008, 11:17 AM
Can I join you in the curmudgeon corner? Although down here going flatting has been in the vernacular for many years (meaning to live in a flat/apartment with other people) - clinicing on the other hand just sounds wierd.

Sigh...I knew my Curmudgeon Badge would be arriving in the mail shortly when I noticed a lot of people saying "So, I go...then he goes" in place of "I said" and "he said/replied"

To the OP:
Sorry I didn't see your original post. But this board has an Ignore button for those you feel post responses that you consider nasty or have no value to you.
Or, like me, you can just ignore them.
This is an internet BB, not like you have to live with these people.