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freestyle2music
Aug. 26, 2008, 03:07 PM
The coverage continues :


http://horsus.nl/olympischespelen/bekijken/757722/

Did you notice that Salinero can halt <bigsmile>

STF
Aug. 26, 2008, 03:34 PM
HE CAN HALT........ WE KNOW THAT!!! ANY HORSE CAN HALT, CANT THEY???

ANKY DOES NOT MAKE HIM HALT (WHICH IS OBVIOUS) AS AN INSULT OR SLAP IN THE FACE TO OTHERS.

WTF, she is NOT EVERYONE's HERO THEO. WE DONT ALL GET UP AND "WANA BE ANKY"..............

BELIVE IT OR NOT............

Sebastian
Aug. 26, 2008, 03:38 PM
HE CAN HALT........ WE KNOW THAT!!! ANY HORSE CAN HALT, CANT THEY???

ANKY DOES NOT MAKE HIM HALT (WHICH IS OBVIOUS) AS AN INSULT OR SLAP IN THE FACE TO OTHERS.

WTF, she is NOT EVERYONE's HERO THEO. WE DONT ALL GET UP AND "WANA BE ANKY"..............

BELIVE IT OR NOT............

Not that I don't agree with you, STF... But, maybe a cup of Decaf is in order... :winkgrin:

Seb :)

freestyle2music
Aug. 26, 2008, 03:46 PM
HE CAN HALT........ WE KNOW THAT!!! ANY HORSE CAN HALT, CANT THEY???

ANKY DOES NOT MAKE HIM HALT (WHICH IS OBVIOUS) AS AN INSULT OR SLAP IN THE FACE TO OTHERS.

WTF, she is NOT EVERYONE's HERO THEO. WE DONT ALL GET UP AND "WANA BE ANKY"..............

BELIVE IT OR NOT............

WoooW STF why are you speaking for the rest of the world.

Please replace WE with I. Or are you part of some Royal family :lol:

And..... it was more to show how we welcome our heroes back home.

ridgeback
Aug. 26, 2008, 03:47 PM
HE CAN HALT........ WE KNOW THAT!!! ANY HORSE CAN HALT, CANT THEY???

ANKY DOES NOT MAKE HIM HALT (WHICH IS OBVIOUS) AS AN INSULT OR SLAP IN THE FACE TO OTHERS.

WTF, she is NOT EVERYONE's HERO THEO. WE DONT ALL GET UP AND "WANA BE ANKY"..............

BELIVE IT OR NOT............

AMEN:)

Sebastian
Aug. 26, 2008, 04:10 PM
WoooW STF why are you speaking for the rest of the world.

Please replace WE with I. Or are you part of some Royal family :lol:

And..... it was more to show how we welcome our heroes back home.

As you well know...she speaks for a lot of us, Theo. Even I have to admit that your worship of Anky is getting a little juvenile. And, your desire to rub peoples noses in it is becoming a little more than rude.

Seb :)

slc2
Aug. 26, 2008, 04:19 PM
Oh for heaven's sake. If she was an american and had won three gold medals for YOUR country, you would be throwing flower petals in her path too, and you'd be strangling all the anti rollkur people with your bare hands.

Oh and look, the curb shank is all the way back when there is no tension on the reins.

And what is that? The horse is standing there like an old trail horse, with the reins hanging down, for a whole interview. Like what most people who watch dutch tv have seen many many times.

Welcome to COH, where you can actually get in trouble for LIKING someone.

YOU ALL need some decaff.

Mozart
Aug. 26, 2008, 04:26 PM
HE CAN HALT........ WE KNOW THAT!!! ANY HORSE CAN HALT, CANT THEY???

ANKY DOES NOT MAKE HIM HALT (WHICH IS OBVIOUS) AS AN INSULT OR SLAP IN THE FACE TO OTHERS.

WTF, she is NOT EVERYONE's HERO THEO. WE DONT ALL GET UP AND "WANA BE ANKY"..............

BELIVE IT OR NOT............

Not raised with older brothers I take it? Just askin' ;)

Mardi
Aug. 26, 2008, 04:32 PM
since I don't speak Dutch.

But I did see a very quiet horse, resting in cross ties and meandering down a country road.

So, when do we get to see Salinero ? :)

slc2
Aug. 26, 2008, 04:44 PM
I have seen videos of the horse at home before. Anky and her horses are filmed and interviewed quite often. In general he is very quiet and well behaved.

grayarabpony
Aug. 26, 2008, 04:51 PM
Not that I don't agree with you, STF... But, maybe a cup of Decaf is in order... :winkgrin:

Seb :)

:lol:


But STF I thought you didn't care. ;)

:lol::lol::lol:

JessandLoki
Aug. 26, 2008, 04:51 PM
It very kind of loosely(VERY loosely) reminds me of a school horse that I competed on a while back. She was a bit more sensitive and foreward to begin with, but was very capable of walking and halting nice and quietly during hacks and lessons. Fast forward to a show, even a really, really tiny one, and if you attempted to halt her she'd dance every which way at best and explode at worst. If I had to halt her at any point during a class where she was alone in the ring, my trainer would tell me to "pause" and keep going before I aggravated her and hope that the rest of the ride would make up for it. So, I can sympathize with her, especially because this was a little tiny pony mare that was just a little tricky, compared to 17+ hands of something that is most like 10x harder to ride.

canticle
Aug. 26, 2008, 04:51 PM
Theo, welcome to COTH. Where people don't CARE about Anky or the Dutch/Germans. What's the difference again? :lol:

grayarabpony
Aug. 26, 2008, 04:55 PM
since I don't speak Dutch.

But I did see a very quiet horse, resting in cross ties and meandering down a country road.

So, when do we get to see Salinero ? :)

:lol:

Maybe he just gets hyped up when he sees a dressage ring... his groom was bragging after the Athens Olympics about about how laid-back he is....

Auventera Two
Aug. 26, 2008, 05:03 PM
This bears a striking resembalance to the lashing I took when I posted that on conditioning rides I often let my Arab trot for the first few miles rather than force her to walk because she HATES walking. It's easier for both of us if I let her get it all out of her system, and then ask for the walk. Sure she "will" walk if I force the issue but she's not happy about it, and it's just more heartache for me by forcing the issue. She's a 5 year old super fit endurance horse who wants to GO. I was vehemently chastised for skipping steps, allowing holes in my training, encouraging bad manners, etc.

But on another thread when somebody else does it, it's just fine. It's ok for a top rider to blow off the halt because - gee, I don't want to piss off my super hot horse. Geeze, don't ya love the internet?? :lol:

(Just so you know the rest of the story, I started her on magnesium and raspberry leaves and most of that nervous energy has fizzled away. I now begin all my rides at the walk and only ask for the trot when I'm well away from home. Amazing what a couple supplements can do for a horse.)

sm
Aug. 26, 2008, 07:41 PM
Oh for heaven's sake. If she was an american and had won three gold medals for YOUR country, you would be throwing flower petals in her path too, and you'd be strangling all the anti rollkur people with your bare hands.

She would have never even made the team, not with Klaus as coach. And not with the open-to-the-public warm-ups at the qualifiers here.

Even Klaus openly critizes her in a dvd available at the tack stores, entitled "working towards success." Something about not a role model...

sm
Aug. 26, 2008, 07:46 PM
Did you notice that Salinero can halt <bigsmile>

From day one the horse could halt. So what? He is doing EXACTLY as he was trained when not halting.

dutchmike
Aug. 26, 2008, 08:25 PM
Is it possible that Theo is an Anky stalker?. Almost start to think he has a crush on her:eek:

Equibrit
Aug. 26, 2008, 10:10 PM
Strike up the band - the horse got home.

Yaaaaaaaaaaaawn.

petitefilly
Aug. 26, 2008, 10:14 PM
Strike up the band - the horse got home.

Yaaaaaaaaaaaawn.

:):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):) :):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):)

Bless, you, I really needed some comic relief tonight. I see six white horses, and a 42 piece brass Omp-pah band set to go! Big orange flags on every horse!

Equibrit
Aug. 26, 2008, 10:15 PM
Judy Garland too!

Sebastian
Aug. 26, 2008, 10:30 PM
Judy Garland too!

And, Mickey Rooney too??!!?? :yes:

Seb :cool:

Fixerupper
Aug. 26, 2008, 10:42 PM
OMG people...you are having the good vs evil debate centered on dressage!!!! He is a lovely horse that is extremely volatile (Dutch...you don't say!!) she is a lovely rider with a very volatile horse and a very volatile husband/trainer. It mostly works. You all diss her when she takes chances and you diss her when she doesn't, the poor dame can't win!! Isabel and Debbie's horses came apart way worse than Salinero did in that venue (as did multiple others) she isn't doing everything wrong or right... FGS...get over it!

grayarabpony
Aug. 26, 2008, 10:45 PM
Somebody else needs a little less caffeine....

msrobin
Aug. 26, 2008, 10:51 PM
Thanks for posting the video. He looks wonderful. I have nothing bad to say about her or Salinero.

Fixerupper
Aug. 26, 2008, 10:54 PM
Somebody else needs a little less caffeine....


phew...over it now ;)

Equa
Aug. 27, 2008, 08:12 AM
I LOVE Salinero. I have a smaller version at home. Very fun to ride. Very reactive. Very trainable. But capable of 42% at Novice level dressage. Not hot, just reactive and interested. Energizer bunny at home in the paddock.

So I am glad he is safe at home.

slc2
Aug. 27, 2008, 08:36 AM
Grow up, people, if certain coaches had anky on their team they'd be grinning a mile wide about the medals she would win for the team and yelling 'whatever works!' and 'many roads to rome!'

ridgeback
Aug. 27, 2008, 08:57 AM
Grow up, people, if certain coaches had anky on their team they'd be grinning a mile wide about the medals she would win for the team and yelling 'whatever works!' and 'many roads to rome!'

Yep but some have a different view on what road to take and feel some roads are less comfortable way to many bumps in the road:)

freestyle2music
Aug. 27, 2008, 09:05 AM
Yep but some have a different view on what road to take and feel some roads are less comfortable way to many bumps in the road:)

Mostly these people will hang around training level the rest of their life's.

ridgeback
Aug. 27, 2008, 09:23 AM
Mostly these people will hang around training level the rest of their life's.

So are you saying Anky's way is the only way?

canticle
Aug. 27, 2008, 09:32 AM
Mostly these people will hang around training level the rest of their life's.
How's the view from down there? :lol:

BahamaMama
Aug. 27, 2008, 09:56 AM
So are you saying Anky's way is the only way?

The #1 and #2 riders of the last twelve years used the same toolbox to get there.:lol:

Keepthepeace
Aug. 27, 2008, 10:08 AM
Wow! I can't beleive that some of you people actually think that Anky doesn't halt and throws away marks to say screw you to the judges! That's nasty. Salinero is a volatile horse. I think that sums it up. I don't think there is a plot to piss the judges off. :eek:

Keepthepeace
Aug. 27, 2008, 10:11 AM
Mostly these people will hang around training level the rest of their life's.

...and bitch about others rising to fame on COTH! LMAO

ridgeback
Aug. 27, 2008, 10:14 AM
The #1 and #2 riders of the last twelve years used the same toolbox to get there.:lol:

Does Isabell use it to the extent of anky? I have never seen the pics like I have Anky so does she only use it at home? Don't get me wrong Anky has been very successful I just happen to really dislike her method. Some of the top reiners are very successful but if you saw how they worked their horses you might think it's downright cruel and there must be a better way for both horse and rider. You cannot control what the judges do and fads come in and out so really you can only train the method that works best for you and your ethics...JMHO

belambi
Aug. 27, 2008, 10:48 AM
She would have never even made the team, not with Klaus as coach. And not with the open-to-the-public warm-ups at the qualifiers here.

Even Klaus openly critizes her in a dvd available at the tack stores, entitled "working towards success." Something about not a role model...


Is this why the USA is a leading dressage Nation?

freestyle2music
Aug. 27, 2008, 11:22 AM
She would have never even made the team, not with Klaus as coach. And not with the open-to-the-public warm-ups at the qualifiers here.

Even Klaus openly critizes her in a dvd available at the tack stores, entitled "working towards success." Something about not a role model...


But when Klaus wanted to butcher down Riexinger, he asked the Dutch for support :cool:

sm
Aug. 27, 2008, 11:28 AM
which makes Klaus one smart guy. Still has abslolutely nothing to do with how he picks a team.


Is this why the USA is a leading dressage Nation?
I don't know anyone who actually contributes and financially sponsors the team who wants to change the USET head coach, I think most all are satisfied.

ButterflyIris
Aug. 27, 2008, 11:36 AM
I like that Theo gives us news from abroad.

If you're not interested in it, you don't have to read it.

hijumpin1
Aug. 27, 2008, 03:26 PM
He's a gorgeous horse:). Congrats to Anky, well done.

InsideLeg2OutsideRein
Aug. 27, 2008, 04:00 PM
Theo, welcome to COTH. Where people don't CARE about Anky or the Dutch/Germans. What's the difference again? :lol:

Ohh but the Germans are sooooo very different from the Dutch in their officially sanctioned approach to training, the Germans are much more --um--horse friendly in a classical sense. And I mean, Klausi is German, after all :D

(Disclaimer: I am German and obviously biased! :yes:)