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Wellspotted
Aug. 22, 2008, 12:13 PM
I've just been watching the Today Show. They ran two montages of Olympic moments, one featuring the athletes, the other featuring the Today crew in different activities, including various Olympic sports.

There was not a single equestrian moment.

Why was that, I wonder? Why do they ignore our sport? Why did they ignore one whole group of athletes?

Is it because we don't hold a paddle, a racquet, a saber, but reins in our hands and a horse between our legs? Is it because a horse is more than a boat, a BMX bike, or a bobsleigh?

Actually, they ignored two groups of athletes, the equestrians, and the horses themselves.

Is it because they just don't get the relationship between horse and rider? Is it because they've never experienced it themselves?

Jealoushe
Aug. 22, 2008, 12:16 PM
because regardless of the fact that it's an Olympic sport, they still think we are rich people who sit on something that does all the work. :no:

chukkerchild
Aug. 22, 2008, 12:37 PM
They probably ignored some other athletes too :P Was there ping pong? Synchro? Decathlon? I think a lot of the Olympic sports feel shunted to the side.

MsM
Aug. 22, 2008, 12:43 PM
Ummm, maybe cuz the equestrian wasnt even IN Bejing?

jse
Aug. 22, 2008, 12:49 PM
It's sad, however, I believe that the general population doesn't really pay much attention to our sport.
I believe they are more interested in the soccer and the swimming and the gymnastics.
There are a lot of sports in the Homelympics (how my niece calls the Olympics), that go unnoticed.

chukkerchild
Aug. 22, 2008, 01:04 PM
I do have a coworker who I was talking with one day-- she found out I rode and brought in some magazines and big-show programs she had from when she was younger. She's had stuff autographed by Ludger Beerbaum and met Albert Kley's horses and stuff, knows all the big names. I asked her, "Do you ride?" And she said, "No, I just really love the sport."

I was like, "Waahhh?"

Wellspotted
Aug. 22, 2008, 01:12 PM
Take her out to the barn, chukkerchild, and put her up on a horse! :yes:
(I know, I know ... easier said than done. One of my horsey friends, returning from a trail ride last week on his newly sound horse, met a couple who live nextdoor to the farm. The husband asked for a ride on his horse. My friend let him up--no helmet, no release, no knowledge of this neighbor. Husband cantered horse down the driveway. :eek: When my friend told me about it later I was speechless.)

I was like your co-worker when young. Knew the names (equine and human), loved to watch, had no horse to actually ride most of the time ... and not enough talent or money to compete.

Briaffer
Aug. 22, 2008, 01:29 PM
a little off topic, but I love how Erik Lamaz (sp?) pointed to his horse after his gold medal jump off. It actually made me teary eyed :')

Moesha
Aug. 22, 2008, 01:30 PM
I also think it is the length...let's be honest most people have very short attention spans and want instant results...with the exception of hugely popular sports like baseball and basketball...most of the olympic events they focus on are very quick, very much action packed and easy to follow...it is a clear cut and easy to understand process. Sure obvious faults are easy to spot in riding, but look at how confusing the dressage scoring was to dressage riders...this combined with elitism angle, I think combine to make it less focused on...it really is probably too much effort to explain and deal with the variable that might come up...

Moesha
Aug. 22, 2008, 01:32 PM
a little off topic, but I love how Erik Lamaz (sp?) pointed to his horse after his gold medal jump off. It actually made me teary eyed :')

:) That is awesome!!


Can I also add that I work in an international organization and just happen to work with a lot of Canadians...many who are not horsey at all.."know" him ,and "know" Ian Miller as a national sports hero...and have such a vast overall knowledge about show jumping compared to many of my fellow American friends and colleagues..

LisaB
Aug. 22, 2008, 01:40 PM
We won one team gold and we are far away from the action.

Wellspotted
Aug. 22, 2008, 01:50 PM
:) That is awesome!!


Can I also add that I work in an international organization and just happen to work with a lot of Canadians...many who are not horsey at all.."know" him ,and "know" Ian Miller as a national sports hero...and have such a vast overall knowledge about show jumping compared to many of my fellow American friends and colleagues..

This is going to date me ...
I remember reading a magazine article years ago about the Beatles. A fan asked if any of them like to ride horses. One of the Beatles (can't believe I can't remember which one!) replied that they had ridden "four fat donkeys" on a beach once, but he doubted if that put them in a show jumping class. I remember being impressed that the Beatles knew enough about horses to know what show jumping was!

In subsequent years I've learned that "nonhorsey" people in some other countries know a lot more about horse sports than nonhorsey people do in the US.

Like the wonderful article someone posted in another thread here
http://www.chronicleforums.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=161774&highlight=dentist
about the fans welcoming the German team home at the airport. Would that happen here in the US?

Link to article about airport welcome:
http://www.buschreiter.de/hongkong25.html

jse
Aug. 22, 2008, 05:42 PM
Ian Millar is such a person, my favorite moments were just seeing him smiling and happy for his team mate!
My husband says that he's schooled in the same ring with him before and he is the ONLY one who will stop and say hello, ask you your name etc.

Reiter
Aug. 22, 2008, 06:06 PM
In subsequent years I've learned that "nonhorsey" people in some other countries know a lot more about horse sports than nonhorsey people do in the US.

I think that's largely due to the fact that equestrian events in Europe are shown on prime time TV like Baseball and Basketball over here! Boy do I miss that! :(

Lessonlady
Aug. 22, 2008, 06:20 PM
Yes, I have met Ian Millar on several occasions and he is delightful! Not only an amazing rider, also a good Dad and a good horseman! I wish he and Rodrigo Pessoa rode for the USA! :-D

jse
Aug. 22, 2008, 06:24 PM
Yes, I have met Ian Millar on several occasions and he is delightful! Not only an amazing rider, also a good Dad and a good horseman! I wish he and Rodrigo Pessoa rode for the USA! :-D

Oh I bet he is a good Dad! I was saying to my husband last night how he is like the "dad" of the team. He seems so supportive and just an all around nice guy. It would be so incredibly nice to have him with the US! :)

spurgirl
Aug. 22, 2008, 11:49 PM
It would be nice if they did some sort of daily overview,and at least MENTION the Equestrian team,(and other lesser known sports)and show them on the podium when they medal...I think if I had to sit through one more replay/interview with the gymnasts,I was going to gag.Don't get me wrong,I watched many of the gymnasts' routines,but I don't need it rehashed 650 times!!Same with Phelps-ABSOLUTELY the world's greatest athlete right now,but show a few other things,could ya???When they got to evaluating his swimmers' physique,I was wondering if they were going to discuss twig n' berries stats,too:eek:...Watching tonight,my 17 YO daughter commented "Boy,Mom where did they find this guy?(Meaning Bob Costas)He's a real jerk".Mary Carillo (former tennis great?),is doing human interest stories,and he is so condescending to her.I'd like to slap him!!What a doofus:mad:!

hunterjumpereqrider62
Aug. 23, 2008, 12:07 AM
seriously tho, who cares if anyone likes our sport or finds it interesting. it sucks that its not on tv more often or anything, but theres a lot of sports that people dont pay attention to. to be honest, i dont care what anyone thinks of the sport whether they think its boring or not.

Fixerupper
Aug. 23, 2008, 12:28 AM
I suggest that everybody who watched any part of the Olympic equestrian sports on NBC/NBC streaming/CBC Bold ought to write/e-mail the respective stations and let them know how many hours of your undivided attention it got. It's all about advertising dollars on tv and even the net. If they don't know how many 'bums are in the seats' they can't sell the airtime. Vote early and vote often!

Party Rose
Aug. 23, 2008, 06:53 PM
It's sad, however, I believe that the general population doesn't really pay much attention to our sport. Gotta' disagree. Last I heard (and these old ears could be deaf by now) that stadium jumping was the number two specator sport in the world, only second to soccer. It's a USA thang' and my guess is that the networks get much more money in advertising from the sports that they already air. Funny though that there is so much track and field aired (even more than soccer), that not many Americans run T&F and it's a sport that most people seem to watch when the Olympics come around. Go figure!

GrayTbred
Aug. 23, 2008, 07:43 PM
Funny though that there is so much track and field aired (even more than soccer), that not many Americans run T&F and it's a sport that most people seem to watch when the Olympics come around. Go figure!

Track and field sends lots and lots of athletes. That's lots and lots of hometown crowds waiting for their favorites, which attracts TV coverage.

linquest
Aug. 24, 2008, 01:33 AM
Gotta' disagree. Last I heard (and these old ears could be deaf by now) that stadium jumping was the number two specator sport in the world, only second to soccer. It's a USA thang' and my guess is that the networks get much more money in advertising from the sports that they already air.

I really doubt that and am sure flat racing is the most watched equestrian sport. Show jumping isn't nearly as universal as many other sports since it's more of a Westernized cultures thing. Not a huge spectator sport (or even a well-known one) in much of Asia/Africa. I don't think there's an official world ranking of most-watched spectator sports, but I've heard that the next most popular ones after football/soccer are cricket, rugby, baseball, auto racing, tennis, hockey, golf (not necess in that order).

Wellspotted
Aug. 25, 2008, 07:04 PM
Originally posted by Reiter:

... equestrian events in Europe are shown on prime time TV like Baseball and Basketball over here!

On prime time TV? Oh, what a wondeful world, where such things are! If only that were the case here, I would probably watch prime time TV!

only_sunshine
Sep. 5, 2008, 10:44 PM
Is it true that Chris Kappler gave his medal back after Royal Kaliber was put down? If that is true, I think that is the realest example of sportsmanship ever.

I don't think you would ever see an athlete in another Olympic sport giving his or her medal back if a teammate died.

Foxtrot's
Sep. 5, 2008, 11:59 PM
Kris Kappler gave back his medal? Why? To protest the footing?
Didn't hear that. What good would that do?

belambi
Sep. 6, 2008, 09:18 AM
Just a brief note re the beatles. paul and Linda McCartney are/were HUGE appaloosa fans.They rode with us when they came over many years ago.One of the most amazing stories I read was here
http://www.texhorseman.com/pamgrace.htm

YankeeLawyer
Sep. 6, 2008, 07:43 PM
Gotta' disagree. Last I heard (and these old ears could be deaf by now) that stadium jumping was the number two specator sport in the world, only second to soccer.

Showjumping is #2 to professional football (soccer) in England, but I don't think it is #2 worldwide.

rcloisonne
Sep. 9, 2008, 03:50 PM
Just a brief note re the beatles. paul and Linda McCartney are/were HUGE appaloosa fans.
Yes. And as Linda was an outspoken animal rights activist and PETA supporter, she (and Paul)) received some well justified criticism after a photo appearing in a national magazine caught them riding their horses tacked up in leather saddles and bridles. I forget how they talked their way out of that one. ;)

belambi
Sep. 11, 2008, 01:37 AM
LOL.. I didnt know that..They certainly used leather gear at my place.

Triplicate
Sep. 11, 2008, 09:01 AM
A million years ago, a friend stopped by the tent at a major horse show and asked if her friends could come by with their kids and see the " big horse " ( her words ).
We said sure and when her friends came by it was Paul McCartney and Family. We all said hi, " ignored the who he was " part and even gave his kids bareback ride on the horse.
When it was all over, he walked over and thanked us for doing something special for his family. He was very happy that his family had done this and no one had made a fuss.
What some people miss is that horse shows is a pay to play sport. As such, the so-called famous can go show their horses can enjoy the competition & time at the shows without being mobbed, in fact they are ignored for the most part, except to comgratulate them when they do well in a class. The horses, for the most part are safe, and everyone can do their own thing.
I, for one, would not enjoy showing with the press racing around lots of fans. In another life I have done that and it is not fun.

Daffodil
Sep. 11, 2008, 10:43 AM
If only they did, Reiter, if only they did!!

Indy
Sep. 11, 2008, 04:51 PM
Showjumping is #2 to professional football (soccer) in England, but I don't think it is #2 worldwide.


I was in England during the last half of the Olympics and actually got to watch the Showjumping team finals at a pub. Walked in there to grab a beer, turned around and saw horses on the TV, and there were people in there actually watching it too. We got to drink beers and watch showjumping. It was so cool.