Amy Tryon in the hospital?

[CoolMeadows]

Does anyone know what's wrong?

[snoopy]

IF...IF..she is indeed in hospital and it was related to her fall, this is another reason why I am thankful for the rule of one fall you are out. She is definately the personality to have remounted and continued.

I say this because Corinne remounted at rolex and even showjumped in great pain, but was admitted to hospital that evening with some serious injuries. You never know what damage you have done and how it could be compounded with yet another fall should that happen.

In any event, if this rumour is indeed true, I hope it is nothing too serious and she is on the mend.

[BigRuss1996]

IF... is in fact true my guess would be it is realted to her knee (which she had surgery on right before Rolex).

[In_The_Ribbons]

She probably had a nervous breakdown, after reading all the posts on this board related to her fall...

[Sightunseen]

She was hospitalized because of her knee and a fever

http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/3412077/Main/3411191/

[snoopy]

I have no idea to what extent her knee surgery was but I am amazed that she was able to train and compete so soon after the fact....Knee injuries take so long to heal.

[tbeventer]

Amy had a rough year of injuries... I met her close to 2 years ago and rode with her shortly after she had surgery on her shoulder. Then, last December, she was hit while driving. There was a Stephen Bradley clinic and the second day ended up at her barn. She even rode with a neck brace on right after the collision!

She's a tough cookie and deserves major kudos for powering through any pain she may have to be an asset to the US team! It takes a lot for a person to be self sacrificing for the good of the whole, which isn't something many are taught now adays.:)

[BigRuss1996]

This could also be why she might not have been riding Poggio as effectively as usual....I did think the fall was very uncharacteristic of both of them. I hope she is feeling better soon...Knee injuries are not fun.

[Shrapnel]

This could also be why she might not have been riding Poggio as effectively as usual....I did think the fall was very uncharacteristic of both of them. I hope she is feeling better soon...Knee injuries are not fun.

Exactly!!! :yes:

[bosox]

There was a Stephen Bradley clinic and the second day ended up at her barn. She even rode with a neck brace on right after the collision!

you are kidding right?:no:

[annikak]

Exactly!!! :yes:

yup...that makes sense. Hospital in Hong Kong...prob not fun to be sick and so far away....

[Ajierene]

So we won't send an unsound horse to the Olympics, but we will send an unsound person?

Personally, I don't think riding in a neck brace is 'tough', I think it is foolhardy. You prolong healing and greatly risk further injury.

In the future, maybe we should vet the human competitors and hold them to the same soundness standards that we hold the equine competitors to.

[JER]

Agreed it makes sense.

I thought she didn't look well walking out of the dressage ring. Her face was very red and she was breathing hard. And then I thought she looked very unfit on XC which surprised me because she's done a great job on Poggio over the years.

But if she was either already under the weather or coming down with something, that probably explains it. HK is not an easy place to stay healthy.

[J Swan]

In the future, maybe we should vet the human competitors and hold them to the same soundness standards that we hold the equine competitors to.

Oh that's ridiculous. Human athletes have all sorts of "unsoundnesses". Anyone over the age of 30 has got something wrong with them. The notion that a horseman has to be free of any soreness or injury is just plain ridiculous. There's an Olympic athlete competing while suffering from cancer, poor man.

There's a point where an injury or medical condition might be reason to keep a human from riding - but a soundness standard? Puhleeze. I know of no athlete that is "sound". Especially an equestrian.

[seeuatx]

Oh that's ridiculous. Human athletes have all sorts of "unsoundnesses". Anyone over the age of 30 has got something wrong with them. The notion that a horseman has to be free of any soreness or injury is just plain ridiculous. There's an Olympic athlete competing while suffering from cancer, poor man.

There's a point where an injury or medical condition might be reason to keep a human from riding - but a soundness standard? Puhleeze. I know of no athlete that is "sound". Especially an equestrian.

:yes:

I mean good lord those 16 year old gymnasts have both ankles taped... and it ain't just to look pretty. We are touting the glory of the American swimmer guy who is recovering from pneumonia (or bronchitis or some such). He was in the hospital 4 days before his heat. At what level and sports are we going to enforce this "human soundness idea"?

I'm only 23 and I already have arthritic changes in an ankle I broke. I can pop my hip on bad days. In college all the horse girls would sit in the hall and see who could crack their knees the most. If we want humans to "trot out sound" say bye-bye to the story of 60 year old olympians.

I'm not arguing that perhaps she was not at the top of her game. Perhaps someone else was a better choice with regard to her recent surgery. But "soundness standards"? I guess I'd better quit riding now... I'd never pass the vet.

[LLDM]

She's a tough cookie and deserves major kudos for powering through any pain she may have to be an asset to the US team! It takes a lot for a person to be self sacrificing for the good of the whole, which isn't something many are taught now adays.:)

The problem is that it rarely works out like that broken little gymnast Carrie Scruggs(sp?). Most people just don't quite make it, which is hardly the point and no good for the"whole" or the "Team" or whatever.

I think it is a crime that those gymnasts are so broken at 16. Anywhere else and they would be up on child endangerment charges.

The Olympics are becoming less and less about the dream and more and more about the unrealistic fantasy. If we actually did get a silver medal on an unsound horse, I think I am done with the fantasy. It just costs too much for a couple of feel good moments.

SCFarm

[Robby Johnson]

Amy had a rough year of injuries... I met her close to 2 years ago and rode with her shortly after she had surgery on her shoulder. Then, last December, she was hit while driving. There was a Stephen Bradley clinic and the second day ended up at her barn. She even rode with a neck brace on right after the collision!

She's a tough cookie and deserves major kudos for powering through any pain she may have to be an asset to the US team! It takes a lot for a person to be self sacrificing for the good of the whole, which isn't something many are taught now adays.:)

I disagree entirely. I think it's downright stupid to "power through" anything. What's the benefit to anyone? You're not 100%, you do further damage to your body, and you still run the risk of messing up.

It might be admirable once, but expecting it to be the norm is foolish.

[grayarabpony]

I disagree entirely. I think it's downright stupid to "power through" anything. What's the benefit to anyone? You're not 100%, you do further damage to your body, and you still run the risk of messing up.

It might be admirable once, but expecting it to be the norm is foolish.

I agree. If she just had knee surgery, what the heck was she doing on the team?

[JER]

She even rode with a neck brace on right after the collision!

Isn't Amy a paramedic?

I'd like to know the reasoning there. Sounds questionable to me.

[LexInVA]

Isn't Amy a paramedic?

I'd like to know the reasoning there. Sounds questionable to me.

Yes, it does seem kinda odd but who knows the reasoning behind it.

[Ajierene]

Oh that's ridiculous. Human athletes have all sorts of "unsoundnesses". Anyone over the age of 30 has got something wrong with them. The notion that a horseman has to be free of any soreness or injury is just plain ridiculous. There's an Olympic athlete competing while suffering from cancer, poor man.

There's a point where an injury or medical condition might be reason to keep a human from riding - but a soundness standard? Puhleeze. I know of no athlete that is "sound". Especially an equestrian.

I don't agree with other major soundness in any sport - such as the gynmasts seeuatx mentioned. As seeuatx put it, they are broken as such a young age. It is not impossible to have a sound person over the age of 30. Would you send a horse to the Olympics that is obviously unsound or coming back from a knee surgery? No. Why is it OK to send a human?

In certain sports, certain injuries may be passable - but I will never understand why people think it is OK to go out on a horse when they are not right. Not being able to get into a two point or properly sit deep to aid in the half halt, etc. is not good for the horse. It can cause accidents. I believe it would be a great idea to have soundness standards for people, as well as the horses in equestrian sports.

Amy was a fire fighter, not a paramedic. Similar, but different.

[gully's pilot]

Actually, she was both a firefighter and a paramedic.

[Carol Ames]

where, She remounted and finished:yes: contributing to the teams' gold medal;but, she was later found to have\sustained some serious/painful:( injuries;:eek: fractured ribs, plus a vertebrae in her low back; BOTH of which must have been extremely painful! remember that before you complain :mad:about her being on the team, again!:yes:

[Ajierene]

wher, She remounted and finished:yes: contributing to the teams' gold medal;but, she was later found to have\sustained some serious/painful:( injuries;:eek: fractured ribs, plus a vertebrae in her low back; BOTH of which must have been extremely painful! remember that before you complain :mad:about her being on the team, again!:yes:

Thanks for the clarification, gully's pilot.

Personally, I don't think she should have remounted. Winning a sporting competition of any sort is not worth risking further injury, in my book. It is just a sport, there will be other competitions and along the line you will always eventually find someone or some country better than you. Sports are not worth killing yourself over.

[Carol Ames]

Massive gloat?! would we?????!!!! SADLY:lol: YES1:oMay she have some peace and quiet :yes: with good care ;)

[Carol Ames]

believe it would be a great idea to have soundness standards for people, as well as the horses in equestrian sports.

[Beverley]

you are kidding right?:no:

I hunted in a neck brace for a week, once. Which is to say went out twice that week, actually. Truly, no big deal. Here I am 15 years later, fine as frog's hair.:cool:

[Carol Ames]

Personally, I don't think she should have remounted; and how would this forum have reacted? I shudder:eek: to think!:mad:

[Carol Ames]

Ah yes, the foolishness of youth !:lol:







I hunted in a neck brace for a week, once. Which is to say went out twice that week, actually. Truly, no big deal. Here I am 15 years later, fine as frog's hair.:cool: http://www.chronicleforums.com/Forum/images/buttons/quote.gif (http://www.chronicleforums.com/Forum/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=3444764)

[mazu]

So we won't send an unsound horse to the Olympics, but we will send an unsound person?

:eek:

You happen to catch Brentina's test? We seem quite fond of sending unsound horses to the Olympics!

[grayarabpony]

where, She remounted and finished:yes: contributing to the teams' gold medal;but, she was later found to have\sustained some serious/painful:( injuries;:eek: fractured ribs, plus a vertebrae in her low back; BOTH of which must have been extremely painful! remember that before you complain :mad:about her being on the team, again!:yes:

She was the drop score in Spain. Poggio looked entirely out of control on that course and I remember wondering what in the heck they were doing there.

[Foxtrot's]

Most top riders have to be tough as old boots and work through injuries. Most top athletes regard pain as part of the day. It sorts out the men from the boys, why they are there and we are here. They keep the therapists in business.
We have choices, horses do not, so there is a big difference.

[J Swan]

I don't even know where to start with that. You must never have participated in any physical activity at all, or you are very very young.

People have surgery and get back to their sport all the time. Athletes have all sorts of surgeries to repair damage caused by injury, age, or training. And yes, believe it or not, it is possible to participate in their sport afterwards. And it's even possible for horses.

Get some more experience in life before coming back and saying horsemen have to be "sound" to compete. Especially Olympic caliber horsemen. They don't get that far without wear and tear on their bodies. No athlete does.

I don't agree with other major soundness in any sport - such as the gynmasts seeuatx mentioned. As seeuatx put it, they are broken as such a young age. It is not impossible to have a sound person over the age of 30. Would you send a horse to the Olympics that is obviously unsound or coming back from a knee surgery? No. Why is it OK to send a human?

In certain sports, certain injuries may be passable - but I will never understand why people think it is OK to go out on a horse when they are not right. Not being able to get into a two point or properly sit deep to aid in the half halt, etc. is not good for the horse. It can cause accidents. I believe it would be a great idea to have soundness standards for people, as well as the horses in equestrian sports.

Amy was a fire fighter, not a paramedic. Similar, but different.

[gully's pilot]

Jane Sleeper couldn't jog her horse at Rolex--Stephen Bradley did it for her--and I mean, not either time, it's an old injury not a new one--but she looked damn good, and very happy, in the saddle.

While I think fresh broken bones are extreme, and head injuries not to be trifled with at all, I'm willing to put up with some degree of human unsoundness--I guess because in the past two years my husband has had two freak problems, both needing surgery and tons of rehab--and now he's facing another surgery, and he plays golf all the time anyhow, because golf is very important to him. As horses are to me. And, presumably, our Olympic athletes.

[LisaB]

I feel for Amy. REally I do. It sucks being sick in a foreign country. I hope it's just a flu bug (and not a bad one).
BUT, if you have problems with your body and there's a remote chance that would affect your riding before you ship out, why go? Again, I keep thinking of her lack of judgment and of the team selectors.
But yes, we should keep in mind the true grit of a rider. If you're already there, already competing, you have to finish. Karen did it with a broken collarbone. And we applauded her.

[LisaB]

Here's what Max wrote in her blog:
Riders are all good too, except Amt Tryon who is stuck in the hospital with an infection in her knee - an old injury that got aggravated when she fell on cross country.

Ewww, I hope she feels better! Poor thing

[Ajierene]

I don't even know where to start with that. You must never have participated in any physical activity at all, or you are very very young.

People have surgery and get back to their sport all the time. Athletes have all sorts of surgeries to repair damage caused by injury, age, or training. And yes, believe it or not, it is possible to participate in their sport afterwards. And it's even possible for horses.

Get some more experience in life before coming back and saying horsemen have to be "sound" to compete. Especially Olympic caliber horsemen. They don't get that far without wear and tear on their bodies. No athlete does.

You are misreading my 'soundness standards' to mean people need absolutely no aches and pains. Some are alright, but having had knee surgery recently, I believe she should have been vetted to be sure it would not effect her riding first.

Athletes do have surgery and get back to their sport all the time. They don't necessarily have surgery and go back to training the next day. It is possible Amy would have passed a vetting, but it is possible she would not have. I would prefer to know the athletes are going over as healthy as possible than already handicapped with an injury.

No, I did not see Bentina's test and I would be equally annoyed if I knew the horse was sent over lame.

[wannabegifted]

I just have to question the selection of Amy if there was a pre existing influential condition (knee injury) while some one else who was healthy with a healthy horse could have gone.

[BigRuss1996]

I don't think there was any question at the time of selections. She missed Rolex because she was rehabbing but she was there walking around on it and said I believe that she felt fine. I think the surgery was weeks before Rolex not necessarily the day before. It has been probably 5 months at this point which with todays routine knee sugeries (which I believe hers was ...not something huge) is fairly normal for full return to activity. It sounds like she tweaked it just right and it probably hurts like all get out. Instead of scrutinizing this to death I think we should wish her well and a full recovery.


I just have to question the selection of Amy if there was a pre existing influential condition (knee injury) while some one else who was healthy with a healthy horse could have gone.

[Beverley]

And I hope you realize how lucky you are! Ah yes, the foolishness of youth !:lol:

I hunted in a neck brace for a week, once. Which is to say went out twice that week, actually. Truly, no big deal. Here I am 15 years later, fine as frog's hair.:cool: http://www.chronicleforums.com/Forum/images/buttons/quote.gif (http://www.chronicleforums.com/Forum/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=3444764)

Nonsense. People who rely on luck should not go anywhere near horses, they'll get killed. I like the quote attributed to Wayne Lukas some years back, 'Thorough preparation makes its own luck.'

My advice to riders is 'know your own limitations.'

But I'll happily go with the definition of early 40s as 'youth.':)

[flutie1]

I just have to question the selection of Amy if there was a pre existing influential condition (knee injury) while some one else who was healthy with a healthy horse could have gone.

Huh? If one were to look at their records, I suspect every "ULR" has some sort of "pre existing influential condition." It's part of the nature of any sport when pursued to the hilt!

[tbeventer]

Most top riders have to be tough as old boots and work through injuries. Most top athletes regard pain as part of the day. It sorts out the men from the boys, why they are there and we are here. They keep the therapists in business.
We have choices, horses do not, so there is a big difference.



Well said! I know I've kept my chiropractor in some good business! An old back injury from being drug by a horse when I was 16, reared its ugly head again a few months ago when a youngster decided to jump a creek. For those considering an old injury an "unsoundness", I have to disagree. After the initial injury, I went on to be one of the top throwers (yes, track and field) in our state for 2 years in a row, then continued as a marathoner and rower in college. The injury never once effected me until a skiing incident that jammed the once hurneated (sp?) discs. So although that injury was pre-existing, I made a full recovery. I'm under 30 and don't get on a youngster without a back brace anymore.

For Amy to ride with an old injury or any injury is her own perogative. She's a big girl and able to make those decisions for herself, although I'm pretty sure she discussed it with her physician before making any rash decisions. The selectors are terribly picky about who they choose to represent.
Furthermore, Max's post stated the injury occured due to the fall on XC. Any "sound" person could have had that same fall and incurred a knee injury, as well.

[LisaB]

Boy, lately it's 'let's see how we can twist words around'. Are there lawyers infilitrating the boards? (sorry to all lawyers here, it's a joke!)
tbeventer, what Max wrote:
Riders are all good too, except Amt Tryon who is stuck in the hospital with an infection in her knee - an old injury that got aggravated when she fell on cross country.

She didn't re-injure her knee. She got an infection in there. period. no injury. probably just swelled up and had better get a look-see done on it.

[artienallie]

I don't think there was any question at the time of selections. She missed Rolex because she was rehabbing but she was there walking around on it and said I believe that she felt fine. I think the surgery was weeks before Rolex not necessarily the day before. It has been probably 5 months at this point which with todays routine knee sugeries (which I believe hers was ...not something huge) is fairly normal for full return to activity. It sounds like she tweaked it just right and it probably hurts like all get out. Instead of scrutinizing this to death I think we should wish her well and a full recovery.

Speaking as someone just 2 months out of knee surgery, I can vouch for the "normal for full return to activity". In fact, my "new" knee is stronger than my non-altered one, as I can no longer hyper-extend it. I was walking around normally less than a week after surgery.

I have stayed out of the saddle since my surgery, but that was a personal decision, made because my hot-headed mare was a bit too much for me while I was healing. If I'd still owned my happy-go-lucky draft cross, I'd probably have been back in the saddle a month ago, as my doctor had ok'ed light riding by that point.

She didn't re-injure her knee. She got an infection in there. period. no injury. probably just swelled up and had better get a look-see done on it.

Infection is probably worse than reinjuring, actually. They may have to go back in and clean it out, depending on the severity...

[Bravestrom]

I admire Ms Tryon and wish her well.

Best wishes for a speedy recovery.

[whatnot]

I wasn't surprised she fell. Her legs were braced, stuck out in front while she galloped around cross country. If her horse was being so strong, she didn't look like she was doing much to stop him. Looked like he was galloping on his forehand at that table. It didn't look like she did anything to balance him in front of the jump, only a hard yank about 10 strides out.

Not impressed with that cross country run up until she fell.

[Jealoushe]

Ha!

[Tuckertoo]

She's a tough cookie and deserves major kudos for powering through any pain she may have to be an asset to the US team! It takes a lot for a person to be self sacrificing for the good of the whole, which isn't something many are taught now adays.:)


Except for the fact that she was not an asset to the team. She did not finish!

I don't think you should just "power through" when you're competing at this level with another living being that is also put at greater risk when you're not feeling well. At that point it's not just SELF sacrificing anymore.

But none of us completely know the whole story, so I'm not getting too upset about anything.

Wishing her a speedy recovery. :)

[lucretia]

if you go to the beijing highlights feed you can watch that fall as much as you like its the first thing on it from several angles. whatnot has a point, if that is what 'powering' though the pain barrier does. here http://www.eurovisionsports.tv/olympics/ and then click on the highlights button on the left of the page.

[flshgordon]

She's a tough cookie and deserves major kudos for powering through any pain she may have to be an asset to the US team! It takes a lot for a person to be self sacrificing for the good of the whole, which isn't something many are taught now adays.:)

:lol: :lol: :lol: Yes.....thank heavens we had her because she was such an asset to the team and the sport as a whole:lol: :lol: :lol:

Give me a break....:no:

[asterix]

lucretia, that feed appears to only work in Europe. I was told I was in the wrong part of the world :D

[kookicat]

Knee injuries suck. :( I hope she's feeling better soon.

[lucretia]

lucretia, that feed appears to only work in Europe. I was told I was in the wrong part of the world :D

sorry asterix! i didnt know that x ;)

[LexInVA]

lucretia, that feed appears to only work in Europe. I was told I was in the wrong part of the world :D

Here's what you do, get a proxy address for a Euro/UK server from the public proxy server list, put that in IE under the network settings, and it should work fine.

[lucretia]

very clever. and if you can make it work itsa really good site. ots of highlights and live feed of all the equestrian though you probably have really good tv coverage anyway.

[wabadou]

Here's what you do, get a proxy address for a Euro/UK server from the public proxy server list, put that in IE under the network settings, and it should work fine.

Lex, for the technologically challenged, SPEAK SLOWLY IN VERY PLAIN ENGLISH :lol::lol:

How would we go about finding this "proxy address for a Euro server"?
I'd love to see it!

[skatepixie]

I don't agree with other major soundness in any sport - such as the gynmasts seeuatx mentioned. As seeuatx put it, they are broken as such a young age. It is not impossible to have a sound person over the age of 30. Would you send a horse to the Olympics that is obviously unsound or coming back from a knee surgery? No. Why is it OK to send a human?

In certain sports, certain injuries may be passable - but I will never understand why people think it is OK to go out on a horse when they are not right. Not being able to get into a two point or properly sit deep to aid in the half halt, etc. is not good for the horse. It can cause accidents. I believe it would be a great idea to have soundness standards for people, as well as the horses in equestrian sports.

Amy was a fire fighter, not a paramedic. Similar, but different.

It is acceptable for a human because they are choosing it. Horses are not able to make those choices, and so officials protect them via soundness checks. The athletes are adults (or at the very least, teenagers in some sports) and they have the ability to access their own pain level, risk, etc. I have taken, and would take, higher risks with myself than with a horse.

[Ajierene]

Skatepixie - I understand what you are saying in theory. I know plenty of instances where athletes of varying calibers are bullied into competing or practicing 'through the injury'. Athletes that did not feel they were healthy enough, but if children, they are bullied. This is similar to a parent making you clean your room. A lot of coaches have a similar type of relationship with their young athletes. This happened to my friend's daughter in high school - my friend had to intervene on behalf of her injured daughter. That, of course, can lead to problems with other teammates making fun of someone for bringing their parents in so they 'don't have to practice'.

In adults, guilt through being called a 'pansy' or playing on the athletes sense of team. This has happened in the major leagues on several occasions - especially before new return to play rules. While technically speaking they should be able to make their own decisions, many psychological tricks can be used to make them feel that they do not have a choice.

Then there are people like T Owens that played on a broken ankle in the Super Bowl. Speculation has it that he did it for the glory, not the team.

I am not saying that the USEF is anything like this, just offering some scenarios and reasons why vetting people is a good idea.

Say that Amy's knee really was not 100% but she felt she should be a 'team player'. Well, time to vet the people to make sure they aren't hiding anything that could be detrimental to the team.

Say that Amy's knee really was not 100% but she wanted the glory of the Olympics. Well, time to vet people to make sure they are not hiding anything that could be detrimental to the team.

Say her knee was 100% - well a vetting surely would have stopped this thread in its tracks.

[LexInVA]

Lex, for the technologically challenged, SPEAK SLOWLY IN VERY PLAIN ENGLISH :lol::lol:

How would we go about finding this "proxy address for a Euro server"?
I'd love to see it!

http://www.xroxy.com/proxy1027843.htm

There is one right there at that link for the European Union. You have to go into the settings of Internet Explorer, which you can do from the control panel by clicking on "Internet Options", then select the "Connection" tab, then click on LAN Settings, uncheck "Automatically Detect Settings", check "Use A Proxy Server For Your LAN", put the address and port numbers in the appropriate box, and check "Bypass Proxy Server For Local Addresses". If you do all that, I believe it should work for you. If that address doesn't work, you may have to try one specifically for the UK.

[purplnurpl]

Isn't Amy a paramedic?

I'd like to know the reasoning there. Sounds questionable to me.

Kind of goes hand in hand with:
Wasn't Darren the head of the safety committee??

Round and round we go with Rider Responsibility. So sad.

[J Swan]

5 months after a knee surgery and people are seriously trying to question this rider's decision?

There is absolutely no reason any of y'all should be questioning this rider's injury. She fell and reinjured it. It happens. Should could have done the same thing going down the steps. Has no bearing on her riding ability. She had a minor surgery - big whoop.

I'm starting to think many of you WANT riders to be injured or killed - just so you can have your little hen parties. (not referring to you, BigRuss).

Shut up and ride for 30+ years and see how "sound" you are. The purpose of having these surgeries is to resume full activity. People have all sorts of surgeries, including back surgeries, joint replacements, abdominal surgeries - and resume all activities pretty quickly. With their doctor's blessing. I foxhunt with people who have had multiple joint replacements and by God they're out there all season - 4 hours 3 days a week - and still outriding most of us.

Give me a break about "rider responsibility". This injury doesn't even remotely qualify.


I don't think there was any question at the time of selections. She missed Rolex because she was rehabbing but she was there walking around on it and said I believe that she felt fine. I think the surgery was weeks before Rolex not necessarily the day before. It has been probably 5 months at this point which with todays routine knee sugeries (which I believe hers was ...not something huge) is fairly normal for full return to activity. It sounds like she tweaked it just right and it probably hurts like all get out. Instead of scrutinizing this to death I think we should wish her well and a full recovery.

[magnolia73]

There was a British woman who finished the marathon very much in pain, but very competitive who was recovering from a surgery that left her unable to run until very close to the games- a month or two out. She trained using alternate methods. The willingness to risk it and push through pain is why people like that make the Olympics and we sit here watching it. It is what makes them different. Anytime you push yourself physical you will have pain and some injuries- it would be rare not to. Part of being an athlete is managing all of that.

Yeah- not fair to run a horse in the Olympics a few months after surgery- but humans can take of themselves. I think Tryon was not taking a huge risk and hope she feels better soon.

[pharmgirl]

Any updates on how Amy is doing?

[purplnurpl]

Round and round we go with Rider Responsibility. So sad.

well there ya have it. BigRuss has the in scoop and it sounds like Amy was fine before hand.

Betina Hoy always has knee braces on as well.
And there is our volley ball player that has her shoulder taped on. lol.

For some reason I was under the impression that she was gimping around before hand.

reinjuries stink.
And shame on me for judging.

I hope for a speedy recovery as well.

[Muck r us]

Update from Greg on the Team Tryon blog

http://teamtryon.blogspot.com/

[annikak]

Great blog- great writer and ... well, I can only imagine what pork shin tastes like (Gross!!)

Get well soon, Amy!!

Annika

[Calamber]

I wish Amy well also but I do not subscribe to the theory of "gutting it through" or whatever kind of uber philosophy this superhuman drama qua Olympics is all about. If the ride is as poor as it sounds like and poor Poggio was running on the forehand because she could not get him under control, I think that speaks to the whole situation. But then, I was very, very sad about the previous crisis where it concerns Amy. Once you have made the decision to become a professional rider, some things seem to go out the window for financial and other reasons that are and will not be available to the general public. So in order to make any kind of reasoned judgement to determine what would have made that individual make that decision in that point in time becomes impossible and all we are left with is just why? If there were others who were as qualified without all of the other problems surrounding Amy, (not the least of which is the death of her other competition horse), I am also ashamed of the selection process. I just wish the US would get its act together, and not just referring to this situation with Amy by any means. I know she has made great sacrifices to do what she is doing, one would hope that those sacrifices would not continue to alter her decision making processes when it comes to her own safety and even more so for her mount. Riding for your country is different than riding for yourself.

[LAZ]

Jesus H. Christ--get over yourself!

This comes off as sanctimonious arm chair quarterbacking in a big way.

It sounds like Amy's horse was strong, he got a bit away from her, decanted her at a fence, she hurt her knee, had the bad luck for it to get infected and is a million miles away from home in a country where she doesn't speak the language. Not the outcome anyone foresaw or wished for, I'm sure.

I've been swamped and haven't been able to watch much of the Olympics, but athletes competing taped up and managed seems to be more the norm than not.

Best wishes to Amy and her crew for a safe and noneventful trip home.


I wish Amy well also but I do not subscribe to the theory of "gutting it through" or whatever kind of uber philosophy this superhuman drama qua Olympics is all about. If the ride is as poor as it sounds like and poor Poggio was running on the forehand because she could not get him under control, I think that speaks to the whole situation. But then, I was very, very sad about the previous crisis where it concerns Amy. Once you have made the decision to become a professional rider, some things seem to go out the window for financial and other reasons that are and will not be available to the general public. So in order to make any kind of reasoned judgement to determine what would have made that individual make that decision in that point in time becomes impossible and all we are left with is just why? If there were others who were as qualified without all of the other problems surrounding Amy, (not the least of which is the death of her other competition horse), I am also ashamed of the selection process. I just wish the US would get its act together, and not just referring to this situation with Amy by any means. I know she has made great sacrifices to do what she is doing, one would hope that those sacrifices would not continue to alter her decision making processes when it comes to her own safety and even more so for her mount. Riding for your country is different than riding for yourself.

[retreadeventer]

AMEN. Agreed, LAZ.
I get so sick of this after the fact analysis. Good grief. Would you please shut down your computer and go out and ride your horse?!

[Gunnar]

Update from Greg on the Team Tryon blog

http://teamtryon.blogspot.com/

Thanks for posting that! It puts all this talk in perspective to say the least!

Get well Amy! :sadsmile:

[flutie1]

Yay LAZ! You're my new hero!!

[gottagrey]

While many of you continue to make anything AT does turn into a bashing of her. She was selected to ride, and those of you who do not approve should somehow find out a way to get on the selection committee so that in 2012 you can pick out the soundest horse and rider combination that have not befallen to any injury or for that matter any inicident of what might be perceived as dangerous or unsafe riding. As far as the comment that she did not look good after dressage etc etc as many of us know the weather was not exactly ideal for many outdoor activities - pollution, heat, humidity etc. That is why the course was shortened. Many swimmers (and I would assume other athletes ) fell ill w/ some type of stomach issue - perhaps the same could be said for AT.

If you don't like or approve the woman that is fine, that is your opinion but why oh why does it seem like any time her name is mentioned it turns into a bashing. Leave the poor woman be.

[poopoo]

If you don't like or approve the woman that is fine, that is your opinion but why oh why does it seem like any time her name is mentioned it turns into a bashing. Leave the poor woman be.

Boo-hoo-hoo. Maybe because A) this is America B) people will never be able to forget Rolex 2007 C) criticism is part of becoming famous (as is hero worship)
Do you really think she gives a crap what people are saying about her on COTH BB's? Please......