Question about Olympic course

[BLBGP]

Curious - Are courses of this level generally set with unattainable optimum times?

[snoopy]

That is the current trend and debate...the courses have changed with the short format but times have not been altered to reflect the difference.

[gottagrey]

I heard the commentators tonight mention that the Course Designer did not think anyone would make the time - conditions have to be just right for horse, rider, footing/ground, and the weather. The course in Bejing was shortened because the officials were concerned about the heat and humidity - normally the course at this level would be longer with a longer time - I think Rolex is usually somewhere around 11 minutes, Bejing is somewhere in the neighborhood of 8 -

[snoopy]

has anyone given thought to the MEANING of "optimum" time...and put it inot context with todays upper level courses.


HMMM.....not very optimal when CD's are telling you that the time will be difficult or impossible.

[BLBGP]

has anyone given thought to the MEANING of "optimum" time...and put it inot context with todays upper level courses.


HMMM.....not very optimal when CD's are telling you that the time will be difficult or impossible.

In the Hunter/Jumper world, optimum means optimum. You're penalized for going over or under. But they only use optimum time for the lowest levels of Jumpers.

[Carol Ames]

HMMM.....not very optimal when CD's are telling you that the time will be difficult or impossible. http://www.chronicleforums.com/Forum/images/buttons/quote.gif (http://www.chronicleforums.com/Forum/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=3434531)

exactly the type of comment:mad: which less experienced riders may take as a challenge :eek:and be encouraged to go too fast; though how was Eleanor Brennan doing on time, when she fell?

[snoopy]

HMMM.....not very optimal when CD's are telling you that the time will be difficult or impossible. http://www.chronicleforums.com/Forum/images/buttons/quote.gif (http://www.chronicleforums.com/Forum/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=3434531)

exactly the type of comment:mad: which less experienced riders may take as a challenge :eek:and be encouraged to go too fast; though how was Eleanor Brennan doing on time, when she fell?



Carol as usual you miss the point of the post...slow down and THINK about it and perhaps you will figure it out...maybe not.

[ezmissg]

has anyone given thought to the MEANING of "optimum" time...and put it inot context with todays upper level courses.


HMMM.....not very optimal when CD's are telling you that the time will be difficult or impossible.

I agree 150%.

At this rate it should be renamed "No F-ing Way" time.. or the "NFW" time for short.

Other options:


"You're Crazy to Try" Time
"I Double Dog Dare You" Time
"How's Your Insurance" Time
"Not If We Can Help It" Time
"Not If You Care About Your Horse" Time
"Run To Death" Time


Seriously, this seems SO obvious! It could be implemented IMMEDIATELY. There is NO COST to implement it. There is NO EDUCATIONAL CURVE; anyone with a calculator can do it!

So, WTF? :confused: :confused: :confused:

[snoopy]

perhaps you could explain it to carol then? She has difficulty understanding this concept

[joiedevie99]

After watching the x-c rides, it seems like most riders did the reasonable thing with a ridiculously unreasonable time and set their own optimum time. Karen said in one interview she was shooting for within a minute of 8. The one rider who seemed to be trying for the unreasonable and scared me was Andrew Nicholson with Lord Killinghurst.

[retreadeventer]

I vote for NFW time.
That about sums it up...brilliant thinking!

The shortest Olympic course in history! All others have been ten minutes or longer...did you read Nancy Jaffer's discovery? We've been prepping wrong? Ah so... perhaps we need a few of those chopsticks .....in our ...... hair ...

[snoopy]

In this case those riders who went later in the day could basically figure what the optimun time was in relation to the other rider's times and aimed for that window.