Tell me about how much you love your old style WBs

[Stacie]

I need some hand holding.
I am going to take my very old style filly to a GOV inspection and I am nervous about how she will be received. She is out of old Hanoverian lines. She is gentle, lovely, athletic, has great movement, is very intelligent and sweet. But BIG. Big chest, big ears, big joints, deep neck. She was 12.2H at 9 weeks. Nothing modern and refined about this girl, at least not at 3 months old.
Please tell me about your beautiful old style WBs, how much you love them and all the wonderful things they have done so I know someone else at the inspection may love her as much as I do!

Update..Dam has injured her hock, so we are passing on the inspection and taking an AHS CP. See post #42 for link to pics :-)

[cloudyandcallie]

well modern just means you have more tb blood in a horse! or mre arab blood!
I have a Hessen, head is concave, but normal horse size, and as a friend said not as "refined" as some horses. He is 47% tb and 10% arab. I love clunky now, thought head was big when I first got him as it didn't look like my tb mare's head.
don't worry. if the inspection is conducted by european standards, your horse will do fine.
Cloudy was premium at his keuring in Germany. He doesn't look like a tb but he is just fine. But then I had a great tb mare with perfect conformation until her recent death. So I didn't want 2 tbs, I wanted one wb and one tb.
I've seen wbs with nicely shaped heads that that were much bigger than my boy's.
If I had the money I'd bring all his relatives over from the old country. to see his vater, go to www.smaaragd.com. Or see his grandfather, Samber on allbreedpedigrees.com

[Stacie]

I've seen wbs with nicely shaped heads that that were much bigger than my boy's.

OMG I love the old Hanoverian heads. I melt when I see one. Is that so wrong :lol:

[Faiths CremelloWB]

I have an older style WB mare. Her sire is Samber. She was brought over from Holland and is a registered KWPN mare. She is also approved for breeding with KWPN and RPSI. She was KWPN approved when I purchased her so I am not sure of the comments they made but her scores were good. I took her to RPSI and they did comment on her "older style" but they quite liked her. They loved her filly and she was a bit more modern but not really light like many of the WB's now. The inspectors were glad to hear I repeated the cross for the 2009 foal and that foal also is very very nice. The mare is such a sweet girl and a fabulous mover. If one just stood aside her and saw her size (chest, shoulder, barrel, head and bone size); they would not likely think she could move as effortlessly as she does. She is so light on her feet and is a very easy mare to ride. I LOFFFF her!!! Can ya tell??

Here is my mare, Princess Vera... http://www.blazingcoloursfarm.com/princessvera.html

and her 2007 filly by my stallion, Mirabeau. Mircedes http://www.blazingcoloursfarm.com/mircedes.html

And the same cross above (2008 filly) http://www.blazingcoloursfarm.com/mirastretta.html

Good luck at the inspection and if I was there I would be cheering her on!!!! Any pictures?

[Whitfield Farm Hanoverians]

I took a mare to an AHS inspection last year that was not well received. Wonderful horse. Great bloodlines, great mover but bigger type. Well put together. Beautiful.
I then sold her to a top FEI rider on the west coast. At her first show she won her 4 yr old young horse class. The international judges said that it was an honor to get to judge a young horse who moved so naturally uphill with such tremendous push from behind. Fabulous mare. Owner & her trainer say this is for sure a mare for the big tour.
I knew I loved the older style!!!
Also with such refined stallions out now I really love my older style mares. My main mare, a SPS Walt Disney/Duellant is a very big girl, not a clunker but not refined either & she continually produces wonderful moving horses. No amount of $$$ could buy her from me!

[Iron Horse Farm]

I just took my older Hanoverian mare to a GOV inspection. She was SPS in Germany, then earned her elite status, but she is older, heavier and thicker than they want these days. She would not have done well if I had presented her without her Hanoverian credentials, but they can still see what she once was. She was placed in the main mare book and the inspectors said that they hoped she was bred to something more refined. I laughed and told them, yes, Soprano. Doesn't get much more refined than that.

[Faiths CremelloWB]

I too would not part with my girl. Here is the old style head... gotta love it... http://www.blazingcoloursfarm.com/veraarrival%20012a.jpg

There are so many WB stallions now with quite a bit of TB blood. Though the stallion I bred my mare to has no TB blood and the foal is fabulous. As Whitfield Farm Hanoverians said... who moved so naturally uphill with such tremendous push from behind. Well said!!! That describes my mare quite well.

[pintopiaffe]

Well, my Trak mare was what the old timers would call "Handsome." She was 1/2 TB, but didn't show it. Spitting image of her sire, *Malachit.

She did not get Inspected (RPSI) until the tender age of 22... and Otto LOFFED her. Despite her lameness (why I got her, penetrating wound to stifle joint!) her lack of topline (lameness, third BIG foal on her) and her age...

She scored high enough to be in the MMB, but because of lack of DNA, could only prebook. That didn't matter to me. The comments made about here were just so lovely. She was very much Old Style, no doubt about it.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y6/pintopiaffe/2db5fe95.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y6/pintopiaffe/mountainwalk.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y6/pintopiaffe/serenemorning.jpg

Interestingly (to me, anyway :lol:) Otto suggested I breed her to Candidus, who leans more toward old type than modern. Would have made for a TANK of a foal, in a good way. ;)

[Donella]

To be honest, I am more of a fan of the modern type but I can definately appreciate what the older style has to offer. I think if the filly is correct and moves well, you should do fine. I recently bought an old style type mare because I love her correctness and serious power! She won her 1A prize at the Hano mare show 4 years ago, so they aren't THAT down on the bigger ladies. And there is nothing "pretty" about this mares head....
http://www.spruceviewfarms.com/main/?page_id=17

I had a heck of a time finding the right match for her in terms of fresh semen, as it seems more of the NA stallion base is focused around the tb type mare.

[showjumpers66]

Just be prepared for her scores to be lower ... it doesn't mean that they don't appreciate her or that she isn't wonderful or that she won't go on to be a fantastic sporthorse, but that she is a step behind in modern sporthorse breeding. We have a couple old fashioned mares in our herd that are tremendous producers when put to refining stallions. Their inspection scores were low, but their offspring score quite high and are of very good sporthorse type.

I prefer a more modern, medium framed horse as I feel that overall they not only hold up better in sport, but they are also more athletic and rideable.

On the flip side, the very warmbloody (old fashioned) horses tend to catch buyers' attention especially amateurs. Often, these horses remind them of another in their past.

pintopiaffe, your girl does not look old fashioned to me ... rather a grand dame! ;)

[Stacie]

... she is a step behind in modern sporthorse breeding. We have a couple old fashioned mares in our herd that are tremendous producers when put to refining stallions.
Recognizing that she is not, in fact, what they are now looking for, I wondered whether I should take her to inspection at all. Given that it's a *breeding* registry it seemed a little silly to take a filly that is not in line with the present focus.

[Donella]

Recognizing that she is not, in fact, what they are now looking for, I wondered whether I should take her to inspection at all. Given that it's a *breeding* registry it seemed a little silly to take a filly that is not in line with the present focus.

Hey! Don't think like that! Honestly, have a look at my mare. She was awarded 1A prize just four years ago at the Hano show at Spruce Meadows as a mature mare. She is as "old style" as they come (though she is not short in the leg). Like showjumper said, these mares can be outstanding producers when put to the right stallion....the Verband knows this!

Do you have any pics of her??

[showjumpers66]

I would absolutely take her! Just because she doesn't receive a premium award, doesn't mean that she isn't a nice filly. Even if she is a bit old fashioned, if she is a quality foal, they will still recognize her positive attributes. If she has all the other pieces, she can still be an important part of your breeding program.

Recognizing that she is not, in fact, what they are now looking for, I wondered whether I should take her to inspection at all. Given that it's a *breeding* registry it seemed a little silly to take a filly that is not in line with the present focus.

[FriesianX]

I LOVE the old style WBs - please don't let her drop out of the breeding pool. I think there are a lot of us who wish the WBs were less "modern".

[goodmorning]

I think that the old-style mare's serve a wonderful purpose in today's breeding programs because they can match wonderfully with the more refined guys :yes:

[Lesley Feakins]

We have an older style Hanoverian mare that I wish we could clone. She was my personal riding horse before we started breeding her. She has all the qualities I want to reproduce and now at age 20 its likely her foaling days are coming to a close...she will go back to being my personal riding horse....so I would say take her. She might not get into the Premium book but that doesn't mean she can't produce premiums.

[DownYonder]

At our Oldenburg (GOV) inspection last year, one of the highest scoring mares there was an older style Weltmeyer daughter, The inspectors loved her, even though she wasn't the long-legged, refined, elegant type in favor today. We also had some older style mares at the inspection this year, and the inspectors made a point of saying that these mares can be very, very useful in breeding programs as long as they are paired with more modern type stallions.

My sense is that although Oldenburg inspectors favor modern, elegant types of horses, they also have an appreciation for any foal with good overall conformation, a good topline, correct gaits, elasticity, a good engine, and the ability to move through their whole bodies.

[RheinlandPfalzSaar]

Stacie, I hope you decide to take her - she is a lovely filly!

[europa]

I have a 20 yr old Nebelwerfer/Marbod Hanoverian mare who was accepted main mare book Oldenburg 2 years ago. The inspector commented that she was the older type with a "not so modern face".....hmmmmm. However, he said that the eyes tell it and that she was a wonderful broodmare. Funny thing is that in her day she would have been considered refined.

Long story short she has produced 4 gorgeous babies and is hopefully back in foal to Escudo II. The thing I love about her is that I can refine her or keep the substance which you can't always do with the lighter mares.

[Fairview Horse Center]

I wish she was mine :winkgrin: but here is one that could definitely eat hay in my barn!!!

Luna, mother of Olympic Salinero, and Olympic Seven Up :lol: :cool:

I think they have their uses. :eek:

[europa]

Hey Darlyn where did you find that picture of Luna I would like to see a larger version of her. She is awesome isn't she? Her and Salieri a match made in heaven.

[Fairview Horse Center]

I don't remember where I found it, but I there was not a larger version, unfortunately.

[Julz]

I love my heavy mares, and bought an old bloodline though a bit lighter type stallion. They made a beautiful combination or longer legs, a little lighter bone, and fabulous personality. One is MMB GOV, branded Westfalen but old Hanoverian lines top and bottom, and the other (who I sold, but still lives here) who is her full sister, also Westfalen, was only MB.

They both have produced really nice horses, and I can hardly wait to present my 6yo out of that combination to the GOV for breeding approval. They didn't think much of her as a yearling- big and gangly, looked really out of place in her body with a huge frame that hadn't even begun to fill out yet.

Mind you that you will only get MMB or MB or preMB- no premiums on mares. You'd have to take her to the Mare Performance Test to get the premium- at least, that's what I remember. DownYonder knows for sure.

[DownYonder]

Mind you that you will only get MMB or MB or preMB- no premiums on mares. You'd have to take her to the Mare Performance Test to get the premium- at least, that's what I remember. DownYonder knows for sure.

Oldenburg (GOV) doesn't have a premium mare BOOK - highest book is MMB. However, it does award mare premiums to top quality MMB mares. Premium Mare here in N.A. is the equivalent of the Verband Premium Stute (or VPS) title in Germany.

[Stacie]

Thanks for all your support. I feel much better already. She's three months old this week so I need to take some 3 month old pictures which I'll post later in the week.

[Fairview Horse Center]

Here is my old type girl. She is just a yearling in the photo. Tank girl. Boy can she move. She has that suspension and elasticity that the modern type just does not have.

[Stacie]

She is just a yearling in the photo.
:eek::eek::lol:
Darlyn, what is her breeding? How old is she now?

[Fairview Horse Center]

She is my answer to Luna! :winkgrin: :lol:

She is by my Hanoverian stallion, Oliver (West Coast-Gutenberg-Don Camillo) out of my Dutch mare Indiana (Obelisk-Poldi-Hayhook).

The rest of that cross is more medium type, but she got the old style from both sides!

She is now a 2 year old.

The last is her dad.

[europa]

I love her face and eye. LOVELY

[CathyKb]

Love, Love, Love my big old fashion girl. She was a GP jumper and her foals have been gorgeous and not old fashioned. As you can tell, I would love a pasture full of her duplicated.

Here is a slide show of her

http://s75.photobucket.com/albums/i296/cathykb/Picanto/?action=view&current=37b2a91f.pbw

A couple of current pictures at the young age of 18.

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i296/cathykb/Picanto%207-16-08/Picanto7-16-08008.jpg

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i296/cathykb/Picanto%207-16-08/Picanto7-16-08003.jpg

Pictures of her offspring

http://s75.photobucket.com/albums/i296/cathykb/picanto%20-%20foals/?action=view&current=8f0556c1.pbw

[Blacktree]

We have an older style girl (Weltstern/Viking Song), who is MMB w/ RPSI.

I love her to death! She is a big solid girl w/ a huge head and fantastic, powerful movement. Super sweet and mellow. I would love several more mares just like her for our program one day...

Here she is:
http://www.warmblood-color.com/Pages/Horses/Wicca/Wicca.html

Since our stallion is more refined (1/2 trakehner), it has been a good match. I have been very happy w/ her foals so far. :)

[Spike]

old Hanoverian lines. She is gentle, lovely, athletic, has great movement, is very intelligent and sweet. But BIG. Big chest, big ears, big joints, deep neck. She was 12.2H at 9 weeks.

i've been there, 2 weeks ago. We presented our Graf Top I/Celebes(CorofinoI)/Calypso I colt, who is hum... 13.1h at 10 weeks and was probably 12h at birth... :eek: He is not what we can call refined but what a lovely boy. He is prince charming in person! You know heads of the horse check game pieces?? (dont know how you call it in english). He is just like it...

He did not scored premium, perhaps as he did not demonstrated his lovely lofty trot, but instead a big, ground covering, full-of-joy canter that you see on older GP showjumping stars, and was in a butt high phase.

GOV judges did commented on his older style, and spoke about more refinement. But also highlited his great bloodlines, and improvement on the dam (who is Premium with Holsteiners), and jumper oriented conformation.

I'm pretty shure if he would have been eligible for full AHHA registration, this colt would have been more about holsteiners standards than Oldenburgs.If he was a filly, he would be a keeper. No doubts.

pictures of our BIG boy:

http://feqannonces.ca/annonces/cimages/40421.jpg

http://blufiles.storage.live.com/y1pmVxIqxUICQocAVf_te5gghwx_Bnyn-TY0CsLHUhrqNQrcBzwgPE3tWkucKWFLI1O

[Tasker]

I can't say enough about how much I prefer the type is not currently in fashion...but that is mainly due to the temperament & durability of the not-so-modern horses. I like being able to retire mine due to lack of time in their 20's... :)

My boy is definitely not 'modern' but has proven to cross _very_ well with TB, Anglo & those mares who carry at least 1/4 TB (or other) refining blood. He has a line bred pedigree which is what ensures the predictability in his babies - and I wouldn't trade him for the world! :)

[Stacie]

Tasker,
Is that you on your boy in your profile picture?

[Stacie]

I'm pretty shure if he would have been eligible for full AHHA registration, this colt would have been more about holsteiners standards than Oldenburgs.If he was a filly, he would be a keeper. No doubts.

pictures of our BIG boy:

http://feqannonces.ca/annonces/cimages/40421.jpg

http://blufiles.storage.live.com/y1pmVxIqxUICQocAVf_te5gghwx_Bnyn-TY0CsLHUhrqNQrcBzwgPE3tWkucKWFLI1O

Lovely boy. How old is he in his pics?
Can you elaborate on what the difference would have been had he been presented AHHA?

[Tasker]

Tasker,
Is that you on your boy in your profile picture?

Yep...who else would be looking down & have their elbows not quite in??? :sigh: That's the big man himself just 5 short months post colic surgery! He is the epitome of stoicism & is just a joy each and every day. I am so incredibly lucky to have my Wally! :D :) Now my preference for the old fashioned type of horse is balanced as we have quite a bit of TB blood in our program and needed to 'cool' it a bit more for the AA market! It is too easy to breed horses that only professionals can ride with a lot of modern (read as sensitive, reactive & very forward with light mouths) blood - that's where this guy is perfect! Not that I am biased or anything! :lol:

[Mardi]

I love the heavier mares. I have two full sisters (Furioso/Zeus breeding). One mare is heavier than the other.

At the heavy one's mare inspection, she was a premium mare.

Her sister on the other hand, who is lighter boned, missed a premium award by one point at her mare inspection. The judge said she was too light boned, and needed more substance.

The inspection of course, is to evaluate breeding horses, not show horses.

The heavy one is in foal to Rousseau.

The lighter boned one had a great dressage career.

I look at it this way: everything goes in cycles. The breeding gene pool must retain some of the heavier types, otherwise it's all going to be light and airy horses being bred to each other. The day will come when it will swing back the other way, and the heavier types will be in vogue again.

Anyway, we have to have the big girls to give some substance to the modern look.

[nsm]

I personally don't care if a horse is "old" style or "modern". What I care about and what I breed for is performance. I just acquired an "old style" mare, Loulou 4 [ Literat by Lord out of Umaica a Dutch mare] infact quite frankly she is a tank. BUT-- she jumped S level very very sucessfully in Europe and jumped big Prixs here in the U.S. She just did a 75,000 one this fall. So do I care if she looks like a tank?? NOT. I will be presenting her in August, I am moderately concerned, but as long as she gets approved on some level so I can get papers on the foal, good enough. I adore her regardless of how she scores, plus I believe in this horse. I should mention she is bred to Ironman.

Nancy

[Spike]

Lovely boy. How old is he in his pics?
Can you elaborate on what the difference would have been had he been presented AHHA?

thanks stacie! He was exactly 2 months old on the first one and a little less on the second one. We didnt went to AHHA because Graf Top I is a Celle stute stallion and therefore, not approved with Holsteiners. The colt would have had only COP wich I didnt want to happen. His dam is MMP with AHHA ans 100% holsteiner but registered GOV at birth. So this colt is in theory 5/8 holsteiner as GT damsire is Calypso II... My mistake, I'm learning. No more Celle stute for an holsteiner mare. But I still LOVE what I've got!!!

I'm far far from being a pro in holsteiner breed, but I feel that holsteiners are more of jumper breed, and they are, because of the main stallions used in the past 30 years (Cor de la Bryere, Ladykiller, Capitol, etc) they are often (not ALWAYS) more substancial horses, more bone, taller sometimes, more framed than our lovely and modern oldenburg stallions. Even if Holsteiners are tending to add blood and refinement to get those more supple and "athletic" horses, faster on a course, they are far from the Sandro Hit oldenburg style... (wich was primary bred for jumpers but fortunately, ended up in dressage as everybody knows).

That's is why perhaps, bigger, old-style (not TOO old style but foals that are less refined-more framed than what oldenburgs breeder strive for) foals may be more in taste of holsteiner than oldenburg. ('m perhaps totally wrong on this one as I said I'm a young breeder who has a lot to learn still) There is nothing wrong with it, two different breeds who occasionnaly merge together via a stallion or a mare, but still two different breeds, so different standard. Both want excellent confo and good gaits, but perhaps the hyper fancy, refined, tb look extra compact mare who represent the epithom (spelling sorry) of Oldenburg's standard perhaps wont be the epithom of Holsteiner's perfect broodmare... That said, there's no doubt that both registry WILL recognize a good quality mare, and they will all agree on a good trot or a good confo.

But we are starting to be far from the OP discussion... I apologize.

[WBLover]

Had an old style Hanoverian mare that I loved--the fact that she was sound as sound could be, tough, and solid. However, she was hard for me to ride. Her barrel was just too big for my short stubby legs, and I could never sit that bouncy trot because I couldn't get my leg around her. But she was a great gal, and I miss her. Here she is:

She was by Wertherson, out of a Manitu dam (Manitu was VERY old-fashioned, flat croup, straight hind legs, heavy neck, and big boned!). In fact I think he was the very first AHS approved stallion!

http://picasaweb.google.com/notasoccermom68/Fizz

[ClaraLuisa]

Not a breeder here--but wanted to thank you guys for the loffly pics, and to add my 2 cents.
PLEASE keep producing the old style--when I am looking for a new horse in a few years, I want something as close to my dinosaur-headed 1991 Oldenburg mare as I can get!
CathyKb, she's a blaze-faced chestnut that looks an awful lot like yours. Does everything--dressage (3rd), jumpers, hunters (since speed scares me), trail rides, carries the therapy kids around when our Haflinger is off duty. Priceless horse. Don't let her kind die out:-)!

[Stacie]

Unfortunately, my mare hurt her hock and is not up to being inspected this year, so I've decided to get an AHS CP for my filly. I'm happy to have her pedigree formally documented. Sshe can be inspected as a broodie should I decide to breed her later.

I took some pictures today. Wzen is 4 1/2 months old. My husband, who is keeping her occupied, is 6 foot tall, so that should give everyone an idea of how big she is.
Some of the pictures are not quite in focus. I am seriously out of practice taking pictures. I'm going to keep trying :-)
She is out of Gracious Gold (Grusus) by Welcome S (World Cup I x Grebina)


(excuse the scrubby weeds. Mom and baby are in the dry paddock that is usually used for late term mares)
http://picasaweb.google.com/estrogeek/WzenSeptember132008#

[Sixth Sense]

I am pretty sure that Grusus is by Grundstein. Grundstein is well known for producing very large horses so your girl may very well end up in the 17 hh+. She's a lovely filly.

[3Dogs]

I have a wonderful two year old out of this mare - who sadly passed last year - full sister to El Bundy, and I consider her quite the old fabulous type: - maybe not the "G" line, but all the same:

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g189/raggedgarden/Etosha1.jpg

And Dad is old fashioned too, Corlando, a Calypso II, Rinaldo stallion.

Here is son and mum together:

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g189/raggedgarden/PJ.jpg

[ljshorses]

Oh my goodness, I love the older type mares! I actively seek them, lol. As another poster stated, with the influx of more modern type stallions, I like to have a mare that can keep a little substance in the gene pool. I currently have 4 older type mares. All did well at their inspections but all got comments that they need to be bred to a modern type stallion, lol like I have many choices not to. My Hemmingway mare (old Dutch/Holsteiner lines) bred to Rousseau gave me a gorgeous Fitst Premium colt and 5th in the championships this year! My Anhaltiner E/Frulingsball mare also bred to Rousseau gave a very pretty First Premium filly this year. I am currently waiting the first foal while I have owned her (produced a lovely IronMan colt prior) out of my Ferro/Saluut mare bred to Schroeder for a 2009 foal. Below are some pics of these hefty girls. My recent purchase is Hillary, an old style Holsteiner by Caesar out of a Le Santo mare and she is currently infoal to Wamberto. Can't wait to see this baby!

[BeastieSlave]

My moose at 3 months (I'm 5'6") and more recently as a yearling...
I love the look!

[Stacie]

I am pretty sure that Grusus is by Grundstein. Grundstein is well known for producing very large horses so your girl may very well end up in the 17 hh+. She's a lovely filly.
Thank you.
You are correct about Grusus. Grace has been sticked at 16.3H barefoot and slumping. Welcome is 17H, so it's good bet that Wzen will be 17H+ as well. She has the moves, too :-). Dad and GrandDad would be proud.

ljshorses --- who is the last mare in your pics line-up? Is that Hilary?
BeastieSlave - Can you believe how big they get so fast? Wzen got tall very quickly and has been much slower growing the last 1.5 months. I love his look.

[Mythology]

Take your mare to the inspections and be proud. Without the old style there would be no modern warmbloods. I love my old style imported warmbloods. They are so comfortable to ride and they throw predictable quality. They hold up beautifully to foaling and competition stress both mental and physical. There are so many refined stallions that you could easily modernize her offspring, but why- Premium foals are not everything, even inspectors make mistakes and have biases. Breed and ride what you believe to be beautiful, well conformed, and competitive in the top levels. Look at Sapphire- She's very baroque- but stunning and athletic. I wonder if I could buy an egg...

[ljshorses]

Thank you.
You are correct about Grusus. Grace has been sticked at 16.3H barefoot and slumping. Welcome is 17H, so it's good bet that Wzen will be 17H+ as well. She has the moves, too :-). Dad and GrandDad would be proud.

ljshorses --- who is the last mare in your pics line-up? Is that Hilary?
BeastieSlave - Can you believe how big they get so fast? Wzen got tall very quickly and has been much slower growing the last 1.5 months. I love his look.

No, the order left to right is:
NF Amayzing (Anhaltiner E-Fruhlingsball), Hillary (Caesar-Le Santo), Saretta (Ferro-Saluut), Melesta (Hemmingway-Ufarno)
I like the big girls best although I have 2 TBs and 1Arabian I cross to warmbloods as well, not to mention my daughter's sportpony we also breed (cuteness factor,lol).

[Cervalo]

[QUOTE=WarmbloodColor;3379865]We have an older style girl (Weltstern/Viking Song), who is MMB w/ RPSI.

I love her to death! She is a big solid girl w/ a huge head and fantastic, powerful movement. Super sweet and mellow. I would love several more mares just like her for our program one day...

Here she is:
http://www.warmblood-color.com/Pages/Horses/Wicca/Wicca.htmlQUOTE]

I have a Weltstern youngster too that I adore. I can't wait to see how he turns out. Weltstern makes wonderful babies. :)

[Sundown Farm]

You made me smile just thinking about my HUGE tank love of my life!! :D

Passion-- 1/2 Trak 1/2 TB (sire)-- reg. OLD. NA.. OMG, is she lovely! She has a VERY dishy face, like better than all of my arabs! BUT she has huge everything else... big trak ears, lots of bone, lots of fat, lots of expression, and OMG I love her!! lol

You cannot tell at all that she has tb in her... I dont know, it must have skipped some generations, because she is MASSIVE!

She is a big sweet heart too, and has good sense! She doesn't know how big she is, but is a very kind! She is very hunter, and has lofty, sweeping movement!

Pictures-- first mare on our broodie page... She doesnt even look big in the pics.. humph
http://www.sundownfarmva.com/ourbroodmares.htm The girl in the pictures is 5'7". The mare is an easy 17.1+ and I cannot get a weight tape within a foot and a half of either end!!!!! LOL

[MagicRoseFarm]

My favorite of all time... I LOFF The B-G - A combo... Loyal, noble, kind, workaholic mind with extreme natural balance and super walks and canters and good trots...

and my favorite pic of our old fashioned boy! :)

[HungarianHippo]

my Hungarian Horse (http://pets.webshots.com/photo/1354703180051052354krAMXX)

here's my chunky monkey. Quite simply, the horse of my lifetime.

[imajacres]

3 dogs, Etosha died?????????? She was awesome, Talley bought her thought us! Can you PM me please?

[camohn]

My mare is now 6...this pic was taken at her mare inspection at 4 before she filled out! She is now starting to mature this year at 6.....so one of those "slow to mature" WB types.....
She is by Santa Cruz o/o a For The Future (Furioso)/Inschallah mare. Her dam was a tank too in spite of that seemingly refined TB/ Anglo Arab breeding.I bred her to SC to refine her dam. It didn't work!
http://s82.photobucket.com/albums/j276/camohn03/?action=view&current=Scan0003.jpg

[Kinsella]

imajacres, I PM'd you as well...

Here are links to the full siblings to 3Dogs handsome boy. All are large and lovely, and the 3rd is the filly Etoscha had the year she died.

Cessna (http://www.triadfarminc.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/Cessnaconfweb.jpg)

Charlie (http://www.triadfarminc.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/Charlieweb.jpg)

Crazy Diamond (http://www.triadfarminc.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/CrazyDiamondOct3web.jpg)

[imajacres]

Kinsella, thank you, lovely pix. Thanks for the PM too. That is so sad. I really liked her.