Fresh Cooled Jumper Stallions in N. America

[Jumper Breeder]

Need some ideas (quick!). Looking for a jumper bred stallion - preferably one that has a performance record and some babies on the ground that is available fresh cooled in N. America. Needs to be tall and will (hopefully) add some height. Nothing with too substantial of bone and perhaps even a bit refining. Would prefer if stallion is approved w/major European breed registries; KWPN, Holsteiner, Hann., Oldenburg, BWP. TIA

[MagicRoseFarm]

Ironman fits your requirements very well.

www.ironmanonline.com

he is BWP approved.

[buschkn]

All of Edgar's stallions (Rainbow Equus Meadows) are fresh and jumper oriented. Campesino, though I don't think he is especially tall like you asked for. Beaulieu's Coolman in Canada is big and has tremendous jump. Quinar!

I know there are lots more but those pop in my head right up front. Good luck with your search!

[ShowjumpersUSA]

Campesino is still being collected for fresh cooled shipments. He's 16.2h, don't know if that's tall enough for you, but he is producing very leggy, refined babies. The hybrid vigor of Capitol I and Sacramento Song has proven to add length of leg and refine. Not only does he produce beautiful babies (RPSI's highest scoring in NA), he has offspring jumping and winning at the top of the sport. One of his offspring was rated 25th in the world by WBFSH. So, I'd say he meets your criteria unless you're looking for a 17h+ stallion.

[sixpoundfarm]

Off the top of my head:

Cathalido
Coromino
Landkoenig
Landfriese II

I am sure there are many other qualified individuals- I'd scan the AHHA roster to start.

[Oakstable]

Edelweiss de Bounce, approved by GOV.

He has the BEST French jumping bloodlines but the stallion was competed at FEI dressage.

Intro special for $600 this summer.

He is 17 H. With the AA bloodlines, I would expect him to be refining.

David Herndon is the contact.

[cyriz's mom]

October Hill's boys...She has a barn full, including Mezcalero.

[Edgar]

Yes, Edelweis DB is very pretty and good performance lineage and at a great price which may make it worth a try for you even without offspring, not sure about height with him. Landfriese II offers what you are looking for in a proven package, Grand prix offspring, Licensed sons, Easy to ride, leggy typey still available at $1277 www.landfriese.com - Super semen quality

[Oakstable]

(sent to me by Dave Herndon)

Go to this website -- the owner of I Love You. You will get I Love You in
the list of photos. Click on him and you can see his Origin, Performance,
etc. You can then click via his pedigree through to Alme and get the same
info.

These are fantastic horses.

http://www.brullemail.com/english/etalons/etalons_frame_set.htm


Dave Herndon

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There are some fantastic stallions already listed.

Edelweiss has his first foal on the ground and looks super leggy in the photo.

Dave said the semen is exceptional. Edelweiss is retired from competition, BTW.

[clint]

Synergy Sporthorses has Raffaello and Cotopaxi, both approved with major registries, Raffaello is in the AHS jumper breeding program. Both have performance records and both have sired very nice offspring. Excellent fresh cooled semen.

[carolprudm]

Go Irish!
http://www.irishdraught.com/horses/roster.php?sunid=17

Offspring of RID stallions can be inspected and registered RIDSH

Also check out the RIDSH roster. Offspring of these stallions can also be regietered

[Hillside H Ranch]

Landkonig really refined an older style mare of mine. He also added a tremendous length of leg. My mare is 16.1 and her Landkonig baby is almost 16.3 now as a 2 year old (according to his owner).

There is also Special Memories. He has a lot of blood and looks to add refinement. I'm using him this year on the above mentioned mare (waiting on her Campesino baby to be born). His owners just sent me the following email a few days ago :
"A Special Memories colt sold at the Elite foal auction in germany for 14K EU and tied for the 2nd highest price. He was purchased by Burkhard Wahler (Klosterhof Medingen) stud farm of Caprimond, Hoehenstein, De Niro and Clinton I among others. "

Several german breeders that I have corresponded with have said they can't understand why Special Memories isn't used more here in the U.S.; more and more breeders over there are using him now, via frozen. He is really a hidden treasure, just was never advertised much.

[Dinah-do]

Ikoon - in Alberta.

[Royal Monaco]

Beaulieu's Coolman by Quidam de Revel has many offsprings performing on the ground. He is 17hh and refined.

http://www.fermebeaulieufarm.com/id83.htm

And Beaulieu's Conquest by Corrado I is almost 17hh and is a very refined stallion.

http://www.fermebeaulieufarm.com/id82.htm

Both stallions are approuved in many European studbooks like Zangersheide, BWP, Selle Luxembourgeois.

[Iron Horse Farm]

Coromino, Apiro, Cathalido............maybe Cabardino?

[goodmorning]

Quinar

[Oakstable]

Coromino produces leggy with good temperaments and lovely faces. I have a young mare in his first American foal crop. Beautiful canter.

[Hi Jump]

Cotopaxi , like Campesino is 16.2 h stallion approved by the Holstein Verband and standing in AHHA amoungst other registries, recent performance include a third in the Chrysler Grand Prix two weeks ago . He is producing jump in his offspring, but not what I would recommend for adding height and leg to mares consistantly beyond his own. His perfomance career at grand prix level is going to restrict his availability fresh cooled but he will have open dates and is available for collection throughout the next four shows.

Hanoverian Verband approved Raffaello however, is a very reliable producer of height and legginess with beautiful modern type with his young offspring exhibiting high degrees of athleticism but not yet under saddle. he himself has been competed successfully in jumper, hunter and dressage and was written up in Z magazine as one of the top stallion prospects for jumper in 1999 of the Hanoverian, Holstein, Oldenburg, Westfalen and Trakehner korung. I might add if your breeding operation is in Montana, your veterinarian needs a State issued Equine Semen Import Permit which Raffaello already has for shipping to Montana .


Synergy Sporthorses
http://www.synergysporthorses.net

[Star Creek]

October Hill's boys...She has a barn full, including Mezcalero.


Especially 17.2HH Nation's Cup Mezcalero !

[Kneigh]

I just measured my 15 month old Mezcalero daughter yesterday at 15.1 1/2". She's out of a 15.3 on-a-tall-day-mare. Mezcalero definitely added height to the filly.

[omare]

I have a coromino breeding paid for myself-but with the expense going up and too many horses-I have not bred back so it looks like my contract will expire before I get the girl preggers....the owner was really super great to work with so it is just my uncertainty with the market and costs.

I was a little disappointed to see he is placed with a dressage person after only light showing in the jumper ring,but maybe that is more affordable to go the dressage route vs the jumper route? (Oh we mare owners are so impossible to please-I know -we want a low stud fee but have the SO spend a $75,000 a year showing him! I guess I was hoping he would get more of a chance to prove himself in the jumper ring.....)

Anyway I wish someone could talk me into using the breeding! ;-)

[Oakstable]

Talk with Amy re an extension of the contract. Most stallion owners are aware of the uncertainity in the market, and will probably want your business next year if not this year.

I think the biggie is the access to the Corofino bloodline.

[Portia]

In addition to the excellent suggestions already provided, you might look at the young stallion Torino (Heartbreaker/Cassini I). He is 8 years old, 17.h, and currently showing at level 7, I believe, and has had the top scoring BWP foals for the last 4 years, IIRC. The two babies I have from him and the REAL Portia are wonderful.

Jump Start also has other very nice jumper stallions, as does Rising Star and Bannockburn.

http://www.jumpstartfarm.com/

[BELLA1]

You definately want that breeding. I have a 3 wk old filly by Coromino out of a MMB GOV approved TB mare that i couldn't be happier with. If you wonder why they moved him to dressage, you should look at the movement in his offspring. My friend and long time breeder that i bought the mare from had a colt by him about 5 years ago out of my mares dam. He is now doing very well in dressage and is a barn favorite. As far as Amy working with you, you just can't find better. She is definately "mare owner friendly" and is VERY helpful. If you haven't seen Coromino in person just imagine a big, sweet, playful puppy dog with wonderful movement. He just sort of looks at you like, "hey, are you here to play with me? Watch this!" My filly also has that great canter, even for 3 weeks, that everyone mentions about Coromino offspring. Do i need to keep on? You'll regret it if you don't! Good luck! Have I convinced you yet?

[Oakstable]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onu2A12-VxI

Hope this will play.

[BELLA1]

Corli is beautiful! I looked at her on your website while I was waiting for my little one to be born. Coromino really stamps his babies.

[Oakstable]

Thanks Bella.

I saw Coromino in person when he was in Valley Center and Corli has her sire's face and canter.

[BELLA1]

I'm having the same question of who to breed a jumper mare to that needs refinement and length of leg. The Holsteiner mare that I want to breed in 2009 is by Lacoste going back to Ladykiller through Lagos and out of a Rantares mare. She's very old style and heavy but was an incredible and very careful jumper until an injury ended her show career. Although i love Corimino, she has the Cor de la Bryere & Ramiro Z blood already so I was wondering what some opinions were on a good cross with her.

[tri]

I am also on the look out. I need height, length of leg, a bit longer length of poll but I do NOT want any more refinement. If anything, I am a bit too refined and need some more substance.

[sixpoundfarm]

I'm having the same question of who to breed a jumper mare to that needs refinement and length of leg. The Holsteiner mare that I want to breed in 2009 is by Lacoste going back to Ladykiller through Lagos and out of a Rantares mare. She's very old style and heavy but was an incredible and very careful jumper until an injury ended her show career. Although i love Corimino, she has the Cor de la Bryere & Ramiro Z blood already so I was wondering what some opinions were on a good cross with her.I am very pleased with the refinement, length of leg and athleticism of my colt by Vallado.
I would not consider my mare old style, but she is more rectangular, and is definitely a substantial girl. Her pedigree is Goodtimes (Caletto - Nimmerdor) Calvados- G. Ramiro Z.

Here is a photo of the colt from this weekend, he is just shy of 2 months old.

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g175/sixpoundfarm/08%20Foal/P7138645copy-1.jpg


FWIW, I suggested Coromino earlier in the thread, as I have a 2yr old by him that I like very much. He shares many of the characteristics noted by other posters regarding his temperament, good looks and great canter; he was out of a more refined dam, and Coromino definitely added some substance to him. He is somewhere north of 15.2- I last measured him in April I think, but he has grown a bit.
Here he is a week or so ago... http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g175/sixpoundfarm/06Coromino%20Colt/062808/P6288297copy.jpg

[Donella]

What about Le Primeur?. Just got imported and has a very very high combined breeding value and won both the jumping and dressage portions of his SPT for Hanover.
http://www.sprucemeadows.com/le_primeur.htm

[RedMare01]

I second (or third) Landkoenig.

I have seen three foals by him (all out of a Hol/Tb mare) that were really lovely and TALL. They all look to mature over 17 hands. The two year old filly is well over 16 hands currently. Leggy but with good bone and some substance.

Caitlin

[ThrghbrdJmpr]

I haven't bred to any of them yet, but I've always been a fan of the Wild Turkey Farm stallions. The smallest is 16.2h.. they're all supremely jumper bred. http://www.wildturkeyfarm.com/stallions.php4

[winsmorefarm]

I highly recommend any of the three stallions at Jump Start Farm - Balta'Czar, Torino, Aslan - there is also Quidam Jr. too!www.jumpstartfarm.com
The owners are very knowledgeable and professional regarding matching mares with stallions. They are great to work with and I have a foal by each of their stallions (except for Quidam Jr.), including my new colt by Aslan.
Check out pics at: http://s283.photobucket.com/albums/kk320/winsmorefarm/?albumview=slideshow
There are pics of the stallions, foals (some are mine, others were bred by JSF), etc.
Regards to all,

[ponygirl]

I'm going to third the recommendation of Torino. My trainer has the ride on him and this stallion is the real deal. Bonifide Sunday horse in scope and his temperament is fabulous as is rideability. He has captured the attention of some BNRs while he's been here in FL. He's also throwing fabulous foals. Just looks at the BWP inspection results over the past few years, with one of his offspring, Elio, being prelimary approved. Not too shabby!

[winsmorefarm]

Yes, Elio is also quite nice too. Torino has another son that I believe is a stallion prospect, although I'm not sure when he will be presented - perhaps this year? His name is Fidelio (owned by Avenir Farm) and I own his full sister, Giada (Torino/Jete/Columbus). At two years old now, she is around 16 hands, has refined features, gorgeous movement, very sweet personality and a powerful hind end (like her father). She was BWP U.S. Reserve Champion Foal in 2006 (beat by one point - by another Torino filly) and was BWP Yearling Champion last year. Of course, her dam, Jete isn't too shabby either, being the dam of Balta'Czar and Aslan too.

[Portia]

That's nice to hear that Torino is really doing well in the jumpers.

I can tell you both my Torinos have wonderful personalities. The yearling colt is very good to work with, smart but sensible and brave. The filly is a big puppy -- she'd climb in your lap if she could. We think they're both something special :)

[Treasmare2]

I can't say enough good things about the stallions at Synergy Sport Horses. Lovely well bred horses throwing beautiful foals and the people managing the horses have alot of knowledge and are the most helpful ever. Coto, in particuliar, has my heart and he just loves to jump.

[GGStables]

Another COROMINO vote over here. Nope, it's not a conspiracy:D

The previous posts and video link of his offspring seem pretty accurate. My yearling colt is a doll baby! He's o/o a TB mare and despite Coromino refining, he seems to do the opposite where necessary: Adding substance and bone .

Cairo is easy, easy, easy, with a sunny disposition and a fabulous top line. Pretty face, LEGS, a canter that reaches like you can't believe. That boy has a presence I can't really describe. We bred to sell but cannot part with him!

Just purchased a big mare with Holsteiner bloodlines that include Cor dl Bryere, Calypso II and Ramiro (but seriously, is there ever enough of that in a jumper pedigree?) and have just bred her to Coromino. Fingers crossed for a kick@ss jumper and mover altho' I feel pretty sure I'll get it!:yes:

[ponygirl]

Yes, Elio is also quite nice too. Torino has another son that I believe is a stallion prospect, although I'm not sure when he will be presented - perhaps this year? His name is Fidelio (owned by Avenir Farm) and I own his full sister, Giada (Torino/Jete/Columbus). At two years old now, she is around 16 hands, has refined features, gorgeous movement, very sweet personality and a powerful hind end (like her father). She was BWP U.S. Reserve Champion Foal in 2006 (beat by one point - by another Torino filly) and was BWP Yearling Champion last year. Of course, her dam, Jete isn't too shabby either, being the dam of Balta'Czar and Aslan too.

Fidelio is slated to be shipped to Florida this month. It will be interesting to see Father and Son in the same barn.

[winsmorefarm]

I haven't seen Fidelio since he was a baby with his mom, Jete. Hopefully my girl Giada will follow in her father's and brother's hoofsteps to FL. next year sometime...that would make it even more interesting - a family reunion. Is Fidelio going to be with same trainer as Torino or someone else? Would love to see your foals too ponygirl. Take care.

[omare]

thanks for the good words on Cormino-I will try to work something out for next year.

I also have two Special Memories-the oldest is jumping me out of the tack and is only limited by my pocketbook as to where he goes and the other is a very elegant three year old colt. But as Special Memories is "family" I am admittedly biased. I have read that the SM's sire Abdullah did not consistently throw "big" and SM's dam was about 16 hands-so I would not expect SM to guarantee a big size. Mine are all moderate sized-probably mature around 16-16.1 which suits me as I am only 5'4"-but SM has also thrown some 17 hand ones. Good luck and have fun shopping stallions!

[ponygirl]

I haven't seen Fidelio since he was a baby with his mom, Jete. Hopefully my girl Giada will follow in her father's and brother's hoofsteps to FL. next year sometime...that would make it even more interesting - a family reunion. Is Fidelio going to be with same trainer as Torino or someone else? Would love to see your foals too ponygirl. Take care.

Yes, Fid will be going to my trainer by the end of this month. :) I only have one Coconut Grove yearling right now in my barn and she's currently built like a dragster. lol The Van Gogh B /Final Pool filly I had this year now belongs to a good friend of mine. Nice filly!

I've seen photos of your filly and she's lovely :)

[holsteinersrock]

Either one of our boys. Jumper bred out of the wazoo, but their foals can also MOVE! Will add height, modern, leggy.

Apart from that, lots and lots of frozen semen stallions are available, such as Cassini II, Indoctro, etc. Many of my favorite sires per fresh semen have been mentioned above, it all depends on the mare and your breeding goals. Con Caletto and Rollercoaster come to mind also, http://holsteiner.com/StallionRoster/2008StallionRoster/2008Stallions.htm and http://www.signaturefarm.net/

Anna