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NZEVNTR
Jul. 9, 2008, 10:13 PM
Does anyone have one? Here is the link: http://www.barnsby.com/bridlery/fts_magnetic_crown_piece/?RangeID=5 They look interesting. Just wondering what everyone thought:)

Meredith Clark
Jul. 9, 2008, 10:53 PM
So the magnetic waves helps calm the horse? Never heard of that but seems interesting. If I had an extra 72pounds laying around i'd buy one for fun.

deltawave
Jul. 9, 2008, 11:09 PM
No comment. :p

Kyrie
Jul. 10, 2008, 12:31 AM
I used a magnetic headpiece on my mare's halter when hauling her across country - I'm all for doing what I can to ensure my horses' comfort.

Has anyone actually tried any item (for horse or rider) that is magnetic - I have a magnetic bracelet (for RSI) and SWEAR by it.

At least you can't do any harm with magnets! :)

deltawave
Jul. 10, 2008, 06:57 AM
At least you can't do any harm with magnets!

As far as you know . . . ;)

DRTY.2
Jul. 10, 2008, 07:03 AM
I have a biomag magnetic underlay on my bed and it's FABULOUS!! I have an old ankle injury that has pins, screws and all sorts in it. Before I was given the biomag, I used to get quite a sore ankle when I got up in the mornings, after riding etc... now my ankle is fine 99.99% of the time... I LOVE it!!

Nightlace
Jul. 10, 2008, 07:23 AM
My friends and I have used Nikken magnetic headbands to calm our horses while hauling. With some horses, it seems to work well. One friend was boarding a recently gelded horse, who was pawing in his way to China in his stall. After putting the headband on him, he seemed to relax and stopped the pawing. His owner wouldn't ride the horse without the headband.

On the other hand, I have a very claustrophic horse who gets frantic in the trailer. While the headband may (or may not) have helped him, he was still frantic in the trailer.

For some horses, it may produce amazing results; for others, nothing.

Pandarus33
Jul. 10, 2008, 07:28 AM
I used to have magnetic inserts for my shoes/paddock boots. I was really skeptical but they did a great job keeping my feet from getting tired. When my daughter broke her wrist, we were told that it would be a minimum of 8 weeks in a cast due to the type of fracture. She wore a magnetic wrap on it 24/7 and it healed in five weeks.

I used a magnetic knee wrap (from Wal-Mart) on my Tb cross when he sliced open his leg and detached a front tendon. The knee healed faster and stronger than expected. I don't place a massive amount of praise to the magnets but if they helped the healing process along, I'm all for it.

From everything I've heard, they ARE NOT a miracle cure. That said, there is a lot of evidence that they simply increase blood circulation to the area and that helps healing. The same can be said for acupuncture, chiropractic and other "alternative" medicine. You have zealots claiming they can do everything under the sun and nay-sayers who claim they do nothing. Remember that glucosamine used to be considered an "herbal treatment". It's helped hundreds of thousands of people and horses lead a pain-free life from arthritis.

Not every treatment works for every person and this even applies to the medical world. Benadryl has no effect on me or my son. Caffeine doesn't touch my daughter but can keep me away with barely a sip of Sundrop soda after 7pm. Morphine was a terrific pain killer when I had menegitis. I was alert, active and pain-free. For my dad, it barely touched his pain and it kept my son in bed for more than 12 hours on a small dose. Penicillin can kill me but it's a fantastic cure for all sorts of infections.

I think more people need to apply a little common sense. There's no harm in trying the magnets however you shouldn't use them in the first 48 hours of a bleeding wound. If there's any chance of borrowing the head band first to see if it helps, you might save a few bucks if it doesn't have any effect.

vbunny
Jul. 10, 2008, 07:24 PM
For riding at home? I don't think they are legal for competition.

NZEVNTR
Jul. 10, 2008, 07:40 PM
I was wondering whether they are legal or not (have not checked rule books) but the photo on the website is a GP jumper in a competition. So maybe legal for jumpers????

deltawave
Jul. 10, 2008, 09:27 PM
glucosamine used to be considered an "herbal treatment"Glucosamine is not derived from herbs. Most of it is derived from shellfish, some is from plant sources (agricultural, not "herbal") and some is just cooked up in a lab. Alternative, nutraceutical, herbal, etc. are not interchangeable terms. :)

you shouldn't use them in the first 48 hours of a bleeding wound

Can you share where that recommendation comes from?

Carol Ames
Jul. 10, 2008, 11:10 PM
It would be worth a try:yes:

RAyers
Jul. 11, 2008, 12:25 AM
Does anyone have one? Here is the link: http://www.barnsby.com/bridlery/fts_magnetic_crown_piece/?RangeID=5 They look interesting. Just wondering what everyone thought:)

Just leave it in the kitchen and by morning you will magically have thousands of julian fries, it will make the coffee and clean floors, it is even a whipped cream topping too! And if you get one today, we'll throw in a set of ginsu knives!

It does everything! The Swiss Army brow band.

NZEVNTR, this is not aimed at you. This is aimed at the ad and all of the other ads like it. I swear if any of this were true, we would be living under high tension wires. Hold it, I did and now that I moved AWAY from the magnetic field, I am much happier.

This is were we must apply some common sense. If this works, then tin foil hats, or soaked rags around the head should work as well.

Reed

poltroon
Jul. 11, 2008, 03:22 AM
So the magnetic waves helps calm the horse? Never heard of that but seems interesting. If I had an extra 72pounds laying around i'd buy one for fun.

If you put them on backwards, does it make them irritable and loony?

Ghazzu
Jul. 11, 2008, 09:14 AM
This is were we must apply some common sense. If this works, then tin foil hats, or soaked rags around the head should work as well.

Reed

I submit that it would depend entirely on what one was soaking those rags in...:D

Pandarus33
Jul. 12, 2008, 10:06 AM
you shouldn't use them in the first 48 hours of a bleeding wound

Deltawave- I've been told that by my Orthopedic surgeon, chiropractor and general MD. While the first and last didn't specifically recommend it, they didn't have any problem with using it. If the magnets do indeed increase blood circulation, any clotting for a wound might be compromised if it hasn't had enough time to really solidify. Lots of people use Ibuprofen for injuries and it does tend to have blood-thinning properties as it is closely related to aspirin. Thinned blood doesn't tend to clot as fast or as well as "regular" blood. This I do know from experience and it's why I switched to Aleve. I think the 48 hour waiting period is known as a better-safe-than-sorry issue. After 48 hours, none had problems using the magnets but all three cautioned that they may or may not work and just to try it and see.

You are right about Glucosamine being agricultural and not herbal- my mistake. Still, there is still controversy about whether it works or not. I think it was in trials somewhere to see if there was any truth behind the claim- FDA-wise. I know this- when I'm off it, my joints stiffen and become incredibly painful. The same is true for two of my arthritic horses here.

deltawave
Jul. 12, 2008, 10:10 AM
I hate to burst your bubble, pandarus, but Aleve and ibuprofen have IDENTICAL platelet inhibiting properties. :)

The idea of increased circulation interfering with clotting is nonsensical, no matter who gave you that advice. Infinitesimal increases in blood flow, even if you buy that theory, would have no impact whatsoever on the ability of blood to clot. Inflammation and swelling always occur in the presence of a wound, and things clot just fine. Clotting takes place within two minutes, and after that it's done. This kind of stuff makes me nuts, sorry, not biting the messenger but advice like this tends to take on the shape of dogma so quickly and it's not backed up by ANY evidence whatsoever. :no:

So by God if my horse cuts her head I'm putting on the browband immediately! :lol: We were contemplating a magnetic crownpiece yesterday--different orientation, different effect: make quiet, lethargic horses hot and bold. :yes: Makes perfect sense--as "perfect" as thinking that a little magnet is powerful enough to influence our behavior. :rolleyes:

IfWishesWereHorses
Jul. 13, 2008, 07:00 PM
I bought one of those barnsby mag headpieces when they first came on the market. Used it once, never used it again.

It did make me $280 poorer though.

deltawave
Jul. 13, 2008, 08:59 PM
$280! Wow. I had no idea they cost so much. :no: