Calling all Connemara pedigree experts!!! :-)

[acottongim]

I have a pony filly (coming 3 in Sept) that is by this Connemara stud (now gelded). I know NOTHING about Con. pedigrees and have no idea of what is good, bad, excpetional, unusual, etc. Can anyone clue me in on the Connemara side of my filly's pedigree????? Pretty please with a cherry on top?? :D TIA!!!

http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/corner+oak+reveille

The filly's page on my website is here: http://www.emeraldacrestk.com/sassy.htm and is a huge work in progress (the TKs take up most of my time :( poor Sassy).

[goodpony]

Not sure what you want to know. Her pedigree is fairly common going back to Texas Hope out of a linebred Camus John. I have been told that the Camus John ponies are generally very typical, a bit old fashioned, and good movers. I know Tyan Travellers Joy was imported to the US from the UK and currently is with Legacy Connemaras. Im sure there are others who can contribute. she looks very cute!

[acottongim]

What does that matter in terms of a question about her pedigree? I bred the mare to the stallion, already own the filly, I"m just curious if there is anything significant (positive OR negative) in the pedigree. She is for sale, and if there is anything that I need to know (good or bad) it would be nice to pass along to any future owners... I only added the link to her page in case anyone was interested in seeing the filly, I'm not looking for a critique of her or anything.

[Sassenach]

Hi,

Taking a look at her sire's pedigree it's a bit of a mishmash to be honest.

Her great-grandsire Gilknocky Drumcliffe is quite well known as a dressage pony. Her great-granddam *Tyan Traveller's Joy was imported quite some years ago for a woman who wanted to breed ponies by Pat Lyne who is a renowned Connemara Historian and breeder and judge. Her ponies carry the Chiltern prefix.

For more information on *Tyan Traveller's Joy:
http://www.wildwy.fatcow.com/Joy.htm
http://www.legacyconnemaras.com/JOY.html - Joy's current owners.

She's got quite a bit of in-breeding on the bottom.

Blue Hills/Arthur ponies are basically Oak Hills bred ponies under different prefixes. Same bloodlines and names just change the Prefix. Oak Hills at its time was the largest Connemara breeding farm in the world. The owner was quite controversial because of his breeding practices - fathers to daughter and motheres to sons and half-siblings. He was a pig geneticist.

ETA: Sorry - the sire's pedigree oops! Teach me not to look at pony pedigrees I just got up from a nap :)

[acottongim]

Thanks! That is what I was looking for. I can go on and on forever on TK bloodlines, but the Connemara lines are greek to me! LOL. Any other info is greatly appreciated, but that will certainly get me started! :)

[Sassenach]

Thanks! That is what I was looking for. I can go on and on forever on TK bloodlines, but the Connemara lines are greek to me! LOL. Any other info is greatly appreciated, but that will certainly get me started! :)

I'd recommend contacting Wildwych Connemara Ponies - Mary will give you the best and most accurate information in your fillies case since she knows the bloodlines very well. :)

[goodpony]

I think you confused Gilnocky Drumcliffe with his half brother (same sire different dam) Gilnocky Ard Righ Mac Daire.

Here is a link to Drumcliffe http://www.baliusfarm.com/Connemaras.html

Sorry I just thought you were interested in what her pedigree might indicate about future potential...ie this line is known for x,y, z.

[acottongim]

That is ok goodpony -and that is actually helpful info, but since I have the pony I can tell what she is a prospect for LOL. She gets most of her jump from her mom not the sire - and she is a jumper/hunter/event type pony. A little much knee action for the flat in hunter (gets that from mom - she is hackney and was a small jumper pony A circut back in her day), but an AWESOME jump. Very bold so that is why I threw in eventing and LOVES to jump. Prob could do lower level dressage, but really doesn't have the temperment to do that. She did well as a weanling in a couple of DSHB (non rated) shows with a R judge, but would rather GO and jump than have the discipline for dressage.

I'm just curious about her lines on her sire side - like I said, I could go on and on about TK lines and what they are known for, what they throw, what the temperments are like etc, but the Connemara is a whole nother world for me. BUT if there was a sire/grandsire whatever that threw an Olympic hopeful I would want to know that! LOL

Thanks for the info!!!!

[goodpony]

Maybe you could tell me about this pedigree...not my mare but a clients. We just confirmed her daughter in foal (daughter is TB x Trakhener). She looks like a nice mare and I as I understand it she was a national high scorer at her foal inspection (not tk inspection)
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/freda

[acottongim]

Maybe you could tell me about this pedigree...not my mare but a clients. We just confirmed her daughter in foal (daughter is TB x Trakhener). She looks like a nice mare and I as I understand it she was a national high scorer at her foal inspection (not tk inspection)
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/freda


OLD OLD OLD lines... really cool!!!! Absatz very close up on the sire side... Preglestrand and Condus on the bottom... and some OLDER lines that I am not as familiar with... very very cool. Would personally like to have her as a broodmare (based on pedigree alone) to breed to some TK stallions... I'm very exhausted right now and just got done with barn chores (haven't even had dinner yet) but lots of dressage lines and like I said OLD lines - usually some of those sires/dams are much further back in the pedigree than what this mare has so it is way cool, at least to me. I'll pm you tomorrow or Tues some more info on the various horses in that pedigree. :D

[goodpony]

neat, thank you.

[Sassenach]

I think you confused Gilnocky Drumcliffe with his half brother (same sire different dam) Gilnocky Ard Righ Mac Daire.

Here is a link to Drumcliffe http://www.baliusfarm.com/Connemaras.html

Sorry I just thought you were interested in what her pedigree might indicate about future potential...ie this line is known for x,y, z.

Oops yes I did :)

I repeat I should not look at pony pedigrees until I'm sufficiently woken up from naps :lol:

[GAEventer]

If you want a little background on her grandsire, Balius Turlough, and what he was like, I'll tell you what I know. I actually had the opportunity to ride him a few times. He was a nice mover, and very bold. Most importantly his temperment was WONDERFUL. He was gelded, however, and is being used as a driving pony.

[acottongim]

If you want a little background on her grandsire, Balius Turlough, and what he was like, I'll tell you what I know. I actually had the opportunity to ride him a few times. He was a nice mover, and very bold. Most importantly his temperment was WONDERFUL. He was gelded, however, and is being used as a driving pony.

I'll take any info that anyone is willing to share! You can PM me with the info if you don't want to share with everyone! :) THanks!!!

[erinwillow]

[QUOTE=acottongim;3256178]I have a pony filly (coming 3 in Sept) that is by this Connemara stud (now gelded). I know NOTHING about Con. pedigrees and have no idea of what is good, bad, excpetional, unusual, etc. Can anyone clue me in on the Connemara side of my filly's pedigree????? Pretty please with a cherry on top?? :D TIA!!!

http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/corner+oak+reveille

Hi there acottongim,

Sorry so late to post. . . I never seem to be on top of these things. . .at any rate, I thought I'd just mention a thing about the Oak Hill ponies in your pony's pedigree.. .we happen to have on our farm a very nice little mare, Summerstreet Mountain Heather who, on paper at least looks ghastly with all that Camus John on her dams side (and if you ever see a photo of Camus John, you'll know what I mean) yet, Bless Her, she is the absolute sweetest, most correct little filly around, an absolute DOLL! Here's her pedigree, http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/summerstreet+heather

[Villager]

I just bought a 9 year old gray half-bred mare- lovely cob size-can do anything with her-safe safe, safe on trails, roads,by myself. Loves to jump (leave that to my niece) lovely temperament. To me, her breeding is a mystery-Her sire is Hideaway's Irish Yankee. Her registered name is L.P. Irish Mist.

This mare was bred and raised on a farm in Southern Ontario. Her sire came to Canada from New York state- maybe 15 years ago. Anyone know of his lines, progeny, and what he was good at?

Would love to know as she is a wonderful mare and a forever. pony-at 15.1hh

[Sassenach]

I just bought a 9 year old gray half-bred mare- lovely cob size-can do anything with her-safe safe, safe on trails, roads,by myself. Loves to jump (leave that to my niece) lovely temperament. To me, her breeding is a mystery-Her sire is Hideaway's Irish Yankee. Her registered name is L.P. Irish Mist.

This mare was bred and raised on a farm in Southern Ontario. Her sire came to Canada from New York state- maybe 15 years ago. Anyone know of his lines, progeny, and what he was good at?

Would love to know as she is a wonderful mare and a forever. pony-at 15.1hh

You can contact Hideaway Farm:
http://www.hideawayconnemaras.com/

They should be able to give you the information you want :)

[goodpony]

Are you sure thats an L.P. or could it possibly be I. P. as in "Irish Park Connemaras" who are in Canada. Irish Park stood/stands the stallion Hideaways Sebastion who I think is a full brother or half brother to Go Braugh.

[carolprudm]

That is ok goodpony -and that is actually helpful info, but since I have the pony I can tell what she is a prospect for LOL. She gets most of her jump from her mom not the sire - and she is a jumper/hunter/event type pony. A little much knee action for the flat in hunter (gets that from mom - she is hackney and was a small jumper pony A circut back in her day), but an AWESOME jump. Very bold so that is why I threw in eventing and LOVES to jump. Prob could do lower level dressage, but really doesn't have the temperment to do that. She did well as a weanling in a couple of DSHB (non rated) shows with a R judge, but would rather GO and jump than have the discipline for dressage.


Look a few generations further back and you will find Carna Bobby twice, always nice to have as a jumper.

My first horse was a probable Connemara who would rather GO than do dressage. He learned that he got to GO after he did his dressage correctly, however long it took. He actually became quite good at dressage.