Lainey and Frodo Thread

[EnjoyingRiding]

Someone on the other thread suggested opening a new one for news, so here it is. For those who don't know, Lainey Ashker and Frodo Baggins had a horrific fall. Frodo was sent to the clinic (though he couldn't walk in the trailer and had a trach), and Lainey is alert with a fractured (?) jaw. If anyone has updates, please post them!

Sending thoughts and prayers...

[Reds-n-Greys]

Jingles from PA for both

[TampaBayEquine]

Jingles for Laniey and Frodo ! Please, please, please let them both be ok!

[3horsemom]

jingles for both rider and horse. what another sad day for the sport.

[up-at-5]

Oh no! We just came from the park. I hope all is ok. Any news on the horse that fell at the foot bridge?

[goodymar1188]

Jingles from NC for Lainey & Frodo... she is such a great rider and Frodo is such a great horse...

I hope we hear an update soon...

[mbj]

Prayers for wonderful and brave Lainey and Frodo. I hate straight faced fences with something for a horse to duck under.Bad bad luck for a very accomplished pair. hugs to Lainey's mom and the rest of her family too!

[ButterflyIris]

We were there today and left after they took Frodo away in the van.

It was too sad for us to watch anymore. It was my husband's and my first time there, or watching any X-C for that matter, and we'll not go back. I knew that it was dangerous for the horse and rider, but seeing the black tarps up in person really drove the point home. It was just too sad.

I'm sorry if this offends anyone, but it is my truthful reaction to the situation.
I pray that rider and Frodo (what an awesome background he has!!!) make it out of this one.

[foxhavenfarm]

Oh cr*p!!! Sending HUGE jingles for Lainey and Frodo. I just saw her last weekend and she was really looking forward to Rolex. I haven't watched the feed yet because the on demand isn't loaded yet. I hope they are both ok!

[Kementari]

Jingles for them both... I know we were all hoping something like this wouldn't happen (we always hope that, of course, but now in particular given recent history)... :no:

[Platinum Equestrian]

Sending prayers their way... please update if you hear anymore on their conditions.

[RunForIt]

We were there today and left after they took Frodo away in the van.

It was too sad for us to watch anymore. It was my husband's and my first time there, or watching any X-C for that matter, and we'll not go back. I knew that it was dangerous for the horse and rider, but seeing the black tarps up in person really drove the point home. It was just too sad.

I'm sorry if this offends anyone, but it is my truthful reaction to the situation.
I pray that rider and Frodo (what an awesome background he has!!!) make it out of this one.

you have a legitimate reaction - one horse hurt or lost is one horse too much. Same for the riders.

[sofiethewonderhorse]

Hi Everyone,

My Hub and I were right in front of the Flower Basket when Frodo suffered a complete rotational fall.

The tarps went up, it took quite a while to get Lainey off the course.

I found it very encouraging that it took more time to move Frodo; as most of us are aware, if the injury is catastrophic, the horse is removed fairly quickly.

The tarps were up for almost an hour, AMAZINGLY, the vet's brought out a second trailer with a movable floor, Frodo was loaded into the second trailer and taken to a nearby vet clinic.

Keep jingles, prayers and positive thoughts for Lainey and Frodo.

And one more thing....keep jingles, prayers and positive thoughts for Karen and Hugh Knows.

Unforunately they were held up in the galloping lane parallel to the Flower Basket. They had to wait quite a while before being able to continue (like, at least 15 minutes if not closer to 30)

[Roney]

Massive jingles to Laine. I saw her horse go down last year at Jersey Fresh, and it was the most horrific, sad thing I've witnessed. No one should have to go through something like that twice...:no:

[Tiempo]

Hi Everyone,

My Hub and I were right in front of the Flower Basket when Frodo suffered a complete rotational fall.

The tarps went up, it took quite a while to get Lainey off the course.

I found it very encouraging that it took more time to move Frodo; as most of us are aware, if the injury is catastrophic, the horse is removed fairly quickly.

The tarps were up for almost an hour, AMAZINGLY, the vet's brought out a second trailer with a movable floor, Frodo was loaded into the second trailer and taken to a nearby vet clinic.

Keep jingles, prayers and positive thoughts for Lainey and Frodo.

And one more thing....keep jingles, prayers and positive thoughts for Karen and Hugh Knows.

Unforunately they were held up in the galloping lane parallel to the Flower Basket. They had to wait quite a while before being able to continue (like, at least 15 minutes if not closer to 30)

Thanks for the update, I'm sorry you had to witness that.

Holding tight to positive thoughts for both horse and rider tonight.

[EnjoyingRiding]

Thank you for the update, that must have been really, really hard to see. I'm thinking about Lainey, her family, and of course Frodo tonight...

[RedMare01]

Oh, no! How awful. I left right after Karen O'Connor, about 3:30, probably just before it happened. Major jingles for them...

Caitlin

[clivers]

Jingle, jingle, jingle!!!! Oh please not another catastrophic injury!!! :(

[TexasTB]

How terrible!
I was watching the webcast, then left for dinner and come back to all this! How tragic for Laine to go through this twice.. hoping that Frodo is going to be alright!

[yellowbritches]

Jingling like mad for Laine and Frodo.

We had been watching the webcast on and off all day, but I ended up leaving the barn early to go home and try and sleep off a migraine. The boss called and told me when they crashed....nearly impossible to try and sleep when you are worried sick :no: I was much relieved when he called back and said that Laine was alert, but had a broken jaw. Still jingling...very worried about Frodo.

[throwurheart]

I'm here at Rolex, but of course we don't know anything either. I did not see Laine and Frodo's fall, but I did see Quiet Man and Sarah go down, and that was not good either. Heartbreaking to see a horse struggle to get up and can't... they just don't stay down if they don't have to. He was behind screens for quite awhile, though the hold was not nearly that of Frodo's.

Does anyone know what happened to either horse?

Jingling for all...

[*FoxFire*]

Oh, no! How awful. I left right after Karen O'Connor, about 3:30, probably just before it happened. Major jingles for them...

Caitlin


Me too, and I am thanking God that I did. If I witnessed that I would have been beyond devistated. I was standing right there, but left when Karen was being held up by foot traffic in the galloping lane.

My thoughts and prayers are with everyone involved tonight. I'm sorry for those who had to witness this devastating event, and my heart really goes out to Lanie tonight.

Please keep us updated! ::Cry::

[dressagetraks]

COTH coverage says he is resting comfortably with a shoulder injury. The Quiet Man, I mean.

They only say that Frodo was transported to the clinic. No update at all listed on him. Jingles. And, of course, for Laine.

ETA: Actually, correction, COTH just says right front injury. The shoulder part came from another board. Could still be accurate, as they aren't incompatible.

[Beverley]

http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080426/SPORTS/80426015

[Kenike]

After reading what Beverly posted, I can't help but wonder if the LOR's crew and actors are aware (or if they care...but you know what I'm getting at)

Thanks for the info on the fall. It's been kind of hard to keep up. Rotational falls are horrid and just scare the crap out of me....even in the best of circumstances. :no:

[findeight]

Don't the USEA or the event organizers have any kind of public affairs official to handle this kind of thing?

Seems they should have some official channel to communicate facts in this age on instant information...and speculation.

Not that I think the news of poor Frodo is anything good if all was as described...but we don't even have anything official about the rider condition.

But even the race tracks have somebody to handle information.

[Kenike]

I couldn't agree more! I'm not even finding anything via google (though I'm also nursing a boy who has very suddenly spiked a 103 degree fever....:o)

[Samantha37]

Oh NO!
Poor Laine and Frodo.. my thoughts and prayers are with everyone involved

[JAGold]

Maybe Laine and her family haven't chosen to make a statement about her condition or the horse's yet or haven't provided that information to USEA. (I have no idea whether or not they have done so.) I would really like to know how they are both doing, too, but I think there are other concerns that take priority over keeping fans up-to-date, and that as much as we want to know immediately, we aren't entitled to know immediately.

[findeight]

Couldn't find a thing either other then that less then informative newspaper artical more about LOR then the the accident(s).

Hell I don't care if the horse was in LOTR or not, I want to know if he's dead and what injuries his rider suffered. Details on the other one, Quiet Man, would be nice as well and I read that rider took a pretty hard fall as well.

While it may be true privacy is important, this is a major event at a state park with 40k or so attending. Keeping details private only fuels the fire of rumor. Makes it look like there is little concern by those outside the industry as well.

[JAGold]

Hell I don't care if the horse was in LOTR or not, I want to know if he's dead and what injuries his rider suffered. Details on the other one, Quiet Man, would be nice as well and I read that rider took a pretty hard fall as well.

While it may be true privacy is important, this is a major event at a state park with 40k or so attending. Keeping details private only fuels the fire of rumor. Makes it look like there is little concern by those outside the industry as well.
And in good time, you and I and everyone else will know. But the people who need to know now -- people who can or should do something immediately -- do know. The rest of us can manage to wait a day, surely?

Is the need to know immediately anything more than morbid curiosity? Is there something you plan to do with the information right now, tonight, that cannot wait until the rider is ready to release information on her horse, her friend, her partner?

[throwurheart]

I just heard from grooms at Rolex that Frodo was euthanized. Laine has a fractured vertebrae and lost teeth, and no word on Quiet Man other than not euthanized.

[woodstock]

OMG- Biggest jingles and prayers all around. My heart just dropped. Not good, not good at all.

[dressagetraks]

I'm so sorry. Not a surprise given the on-site reports on the other thread but still awful news. My heart goes out to Laine. Best wishes for her recovery.

[Janet]

Official press release from the Kentucky 3 Day web site

Saturday, April 26, 2008
Press Statement #2

Frodo Baggins and Laine Ashker fell at fence 5. Ashker sustained injuries but was conscious, talking and able to move all extremities when she was transported to the University of Kentucky Hospital. She is currently under the care of the emergency and trauma services staff.

Frodo Baggins was immediately attended by a team of veterinarians. He was given intravenous fluids and supportive medications for shock and pain. After he was stabilized, he was sedated and transported by horse ambulance to nearby Hagyard Equine Medical Institute, where he was immediately attended by emergency personnel.

Further tests showed that Frodo Baggins had sustained a fracture at the base of his skull, as well as severe lung injury. As the prognosis was very poor, a representative of the family concurred that euthanasia was the most humane option for the horse. A complete necropsy examination will be performed. Everyone at the event is saddened by the loss of this brave horse.

Equestrian Events, Inc.

[c_expresso]

RIP Frodo.

Frodo did not make it, I just got word from my trainer who knows Lainey and her mom well.

[Tiempo]

I just heard from grooms at Rolex that Frodo was euthanized. Laine has a fractured vertebrae and lost teeth, and no word on Quiet Man other than not euthanized.

Shit...damn...in my heart I'm still hoping it's not true although my head says differently.

[Jazzy Lady]

shit... sincerest condolences for Laine and her support team. I couldn't imagine her pain.

[RoeVee]

:cry:

[Tiempo]

Official press release from the Kentucky 3 Day web site

My heart is just aching for Lainey.

Not what I wanted to hear.

There are just not enough words.

[Kementari]

:cry:

I can't think of anything more to say. :(

[Meredith Clark]

I was just telling my mom about Frodo's story and how cool of a horse he was. I can't beleive this happened. Poor Lainey :(

[TB or not TB?]

Official press release from the Kentucky 3 Day web site:
Further tests showed that Frodo Baggins had sustained a fracture at the base of his skull, as well as severe lung injury. As the prognosis was very poor, a representative of the family concurred that euthanasia was the most humane option for the horse. A complete necropsy examination will be performed. Everyone at the event is saddened by the loss of this brave horse.

Oh man I just broke down when I heard this. I'm so sorry for Laine and for her team. Can't that poor kid get a break? :cry::cry::cry:

Is there anything us COTHers could do for her?

[RiverBendPol]

That is so damn sad. What a wonderful and noble beast. Oh poor Lainey. How does anybody get up in the morning after something as sad as this? I'm so terribly sorry. There are no useful words.:cry:

[buschkn]

RIP Frodo and GIANT jingles for Laine and all the connections.

I am so very sorry to hear this news. How much sadness can one young person stand? To lose your two long-time equine partners and a close friend to the sport you love, and all within a year, seems horrifically unfair. My heart goes out to her, she is a super rider and seems like a lovely person. :no::(

[beeblebrox]

The fall was horrible and shown one time (live) on screen around the horse park as the camera was following her ride. The coverage was immediately turned to others though. Unlike the fall at the footbridge by another rider horse team whose horse looked exhausted it looked as though Frodo just misjudged the fence and struck it and flipped end over end and landed REALLY hard on other side :-(

My thoughts and condolences are surely on his rider who has lost a partner and her support team....

[TexasTB]

This is the most incredibly tragic thing. And poor Lainey has had to go through this TWICE in a little over a year! How do you find the strength to get back in the saddle again after suffering such terrible loss?

May you rest in peace, Frodo :cry:

[quietann]

I'm crying. Can't say anything except how very, very sorry I am to hear this.

[dezeq85]

Oh man I just broke down when I heard this. I'm so sorry for Laine and for her team. Can't that poor kid get a break? :cry::cry::cry:

Is there anything us COTHers could do for her?

My heart is breaking for her. I would anything to dull the pain she must be feeling right now.:yes::sadsmile::no:

[up-at-5]

I'm crying. Can't say anything except how very, very sorry I am to hear this.

Me too.

I won't be coming back to Rolex, it's just too heart-breaking. I just want to make the 20 hour drive home and hug my horses.

My heart breaks for Frodo and for Lainey as well.

[Tuckertoo]

Noooo....so sad...this would be incredibly hard for anyone to go through, but I absolutely ache for Lainey because she's lost 2 wonderful horses and a good friend.

Jingles and condolences...

Godspeed Frodo Baggins:(:cry:

[OneWish]

Reading the news broke my heart. My condolences to everyone invovled.

[devcubber]

I totally got teary eyed watching her clear the head of the lake on Mazetto, thinking of Eleanor; now thinking about how she lost Frodo is breaking my heart:(

[FLeckenAwesome]

my heartfelt condolences to all who loved Frodo and Lainey and her family. I just can't imagine.....

Godspeed Frodo.

[LexInVA]

This is one of those rare occasions where I simply can't say much of anything. I literally can't find words for any of it beyond the simple musings of these few sentences. I just hope this is the end of it.

[Kenike]

Shit :cry:

RIP Frodo

[vineyridge]

The necropsy will be very valuable. I'm wondering if perhaps Frodo didn't suffer EIPH at the fence, lost enough impulsion that he chested it and flipped, and then fractured the base of his skull.

That poor young woman; what an awful year she has lived through. If she were to turn her back on the sport completely now, it would definitely not be from a lack of courage. :cry:

[dcm]

Prayers going out to Lainey and her team. So sad to hear about Frodo.

:cry:

[Heineken]

No words. Just so sad for Laine and her horse.

[eks]

My heart breaks for Laine and her family.

Here is a paragraph from the 4th part of her Rolex Featured Rider Installment...

"Most of all, I would like to thank my horses for being so patient and taking care of me through my mistakes and emotions. They are the reason for my happiness, my ambition, my disappointment, but most of all, my being. I love each and every one of them for showing me what it’s like to strive for perfection. I look forward to hearing each and every one of you cheer us on! Until then, heels down, sit back, and kick on"



All of us who love our horses are sharing her pain.

[tx3dayeventer]

OMG I just made it back to any sort of media after being away all day. I was rooting for Lainey to win the whole damn thing as we both did our 1st CCI* together back in 2000. I am in tears hearing this news :cry: She is a wonderful person and am very glad that she is ok. I am very sorry to hear she lost Fro-fro. I don't know what else to say. :cry:

[Milocalwinnings]

Damn... how awful. :( Thoughts and major Jingles being sent Laine's way.:no:

[goodymar1188]

RIP Frodo...

It's ashame when bad things happen to good horses and good people for that matter.

I am still jingling for Lainey to pull through her injuries without a problem.

[EnjoyingRiding]

Oh, no....the last thing anyone wanted to hear. Poor, poor Frodo. I'm sending prayers and thoughts to Lainey and her family. What a tough year she's had, the last person who deserves this.

[Lori T]

My heartfelt prayers go out to Lainey and her family. Poor Frodo. I am so deeply saddened to hear this news.

[Reynard Ridge]

Condolences to all involved.

[maxdog]

The necropsy will be very valuable. I'm wondering if perhaps Frodo didn't suffer EIPH at the fence, lost enough impulsion that he chested it and flipped, and then fractured the base of his skull.
:

That is my thought exactly. RIP, so sad:no:

[Classic Melody]

I was there viney, and I wish I could say that is what happened but it's not. My condolences to Laine. What an awful day.

[magnolia73]

Christ. This just sucks. Yet another sad ending for a brave pair. I hope the rider heals quickly, with no complications. :(

[monstrpony]

:no::no::no:

Condolences to all involved.

[Buffyblue]

My sincere condolences to all involved. Godspeed, Frodo.

[texang73]

Oh no. My sincerest condolences to Laine and her family at this time. I have met her and Frodo several times, and she is a lovely person and he was a great horse. A really neat horse.

Such a damn shame. :cry:

[chai]

What a terrible thing. My condolences to Lainey for the loss of Frodo and wishes for gentle healing for her in body and spirit. How sad.

[DLee]

Was so heartbreaking to watch the people trying to help him yesterday, running in and out of the screens. I have to say the crowd where we were was just stricken, silent, and respectful. :cry: I am just so, so sorry, there are no other words. :(

[AppJumpr08]

:no::(

Ugh... I was so hoping for no sad news from Rolex this year...

Jingles and Hugs to everyone involved.

[lgaither2]

It is hard to hear about things like this in general, but if you actually know Lainey it makes it even harder. Lainey (and her mom!) is probably the nicest person you will ever meet. She has the most bubbly and outgoing personality and it would be hard to find someone who loves her horses and the sport more then she does.
I am so glad to hear that she is doing alright. She has had some bad luck but always manages to bounce back and keep a positive attitude. I'm sure she will be back in the saddle as soon as she is allowed (most likely even sooner!).
I feel so bad for Lainey's loss. Lainey and Frodo were such an amazing team and always so much fun to watch.

[Gestalt]

RIP Frodo :( I am another horse lover that will never go to Rolex again. Both times I have gone, I've seen horses killed. That isn't good. :no:

[yellowbritches]

so sad :cry:

[maxxtrot]

crap, this is not what i wanted to hear, i saw the update on the rolex site last night but could not get on here to post. i had really weird nightmares last night and was hoping to wake up and things would be different. i just saw lainey last week, she was is so nice, cannot believe something so tragic can happen to the same person twice. she did not deserve this and my prayers and thoughts are with her and her family. praying for a quick and speedy recovery of her body and mind and spirit.

rip frodo :(

[ezmissg]

My heartfelt condolences to Laine and everyone associated with her 'team'.

My prayers that her love for Frodo and fond memories of their partnership will ultimately exceed the pain she must feel in her heart right now.

RIP, Frodo Baggins. :cry:

[J Swan]

My condolences to her on the loss of her horse.

I am glad she is not severely injured.

[*FoxFire*]

SO SO sad. RIP Frodo.

I feel so terrible for Lanie. Not only two animals, horses, or friends, but two PARTNERS! I can only imagine how much these animals mean to these riders with the amount of time they spend working together. My heart goes out to Lanie and her family, as well as everyone involved. I wish Lanie a speedy recovery with no complications.

One of the four featured pairs for Rolex this year too :( GAH so so sad! :'(

[galwaybay]

Don't the USEA or the event organizers have any kind of public affairs official to handle this kind of thing?

Seems they should have some official channel to communicate facts in this age on instant information...and speculation.

Not that I think the news of poor Frodo is anything good if all was as described...but we don't even have anything official about the rider condition.

But even the race tracks have somebody to handle information.

They do and Janet posted it later - but come on - give the organizers a chance - with the live webcast and people watching and typing posts as horses compete - organizers still need time to receive/confirm the status of any horse and rider.

That said - what a sad day... my heart goes out to those who suffered injury/loss of their equine partner

[BBowen]

Jingles and prayers for Laine to have speedy recovery. My heart just breaks for her, her family and all of those close to Frodo. I am trying very hard to remember her joy coming off the course on Mazetto and not her fall with Frodo.

[RunForIt]

Jingles and prayers for Laine to have speedy recovery. My heart just breaks for her, her family and all of those close to Frodo. I am trying very hard to remember her joy coming off the course on Mazetto and not her fall with Frodo.

My exact picture too - all the joy between Laine's entire support system...very obviously loving the horse and the sport and all the work, sweat, sacrifice, and care it took to bring them to that perfect moment...gone in the same day.

All I'm going to concentrate on today is feeling for Laine, her mom, her family and friends. :cry:

[EnjoyingRiding]

http://www.laineashker.blogspot.com/ the latest update on lainey is the first post. :no: Sending all my positive thoughts and prayers to lainey and her family...

[ToucheToujour]

Bad update on Lainey's blog:

http://laineashker.blogspot.com/

Laine was severely injured in the cross country course at the Rolex Three-Day event in Lexington, Kentucky yesterday, April 26, 2008. She was riding Frodo Baggins when the fall occurred. Laine was immediately airlifted to the University of Kentucky hospital where she remains in stable but critical condition in ICU. She suffered a severely broken jaw, a broken collar bone, and multiple fractured ribs. The fractured ribs pierced her lungs which both collapsed and she is currently on a ventilator. There are no surgeries scheduled yet as her lungs need time to heal to the point that she can breathe on her own again.

The family asks that you remember Laine in your prayers. This site will be updated daily with her progress so please check back here for news of her condition.

[findeight]

CRAP....

[arnika]

Sending all my prayers and thoughts for Laine and her family during this most difficult of times. She's a strong young lady and a tough competitor, she'll come through this and recover.

[TexasTB]

the only words that come to mind:

DAMNIT DAMNIT DAMNIT

Laine SO does not deserve this to happen to her! I will be keeping her in my thoughts this week for a speedy and full recovery

[FLeckenAwesome]

oh no!!!

i hope she gets better soon!!! how awful......and after knowing what happened to your pony too.....how awful!

my thoughts and prayers and jingles for her and her family and all of frodo's friends!

[flyingchange]

I can't begin to imagine the emotional pain she is in. I am sure that the physical pain compares nothing to it. I woke up this morning and this fog of sadness immediately fell over me. I know that all she wants to do right now is go take care of her horse, and she can't. He's gone and she can't get up. Laine, I don't know you but you are in my thoughts. We are planting flowers today and I will plant them for you. They will be Frodo's flowers.

[EnjoyingRiding]

Yeah, I'm 5 hours ahead of you guys and after waiting up until 2:00AM for news I finally went to bed. I woke up about 10 the next morning and felt this sense of dread...then remembered why and went to check. Not the news I wanted to hear :no:.
We're all pulling for you Lainey - I'm sending positive thoughts and prayers your way.

[horsenut1966]

How terrible!
I was watching the webcast, then left for dinner and come back to all this! How tragic for Laine to go through this twice.. hoping that Frodo is going to be alright!

Could someone please tell me what happened to her the first time? I keep reading that on different posts and would like info.

[Cinnybren]

MY heartfelt condolences to Lainey and her family and team at the loss of Frodo. Also, best wishes to her for a speedy recovery. I cannot even begin to imagine what she is going through. I'm going out to hug my little herd. Godspeed Frodo.

[Hey Mickey]

This is one of those rare occasions where I simply can't say much of anything. I literally can't find words for any of it beyond the simple musings of these few sentences. I just hope this is the end of it.

agreed... I don't even know what to think.... its hard to comprehend.
I'm so glad I wasn't at that fence.

[c_expresso]

I just talked to a friend who saw the accident and said it was horrible. Frodo went down, got up, and then went back down....:cry::cry::cry::cry:

[flyingchange]

Could someone please tell me what happened to her the first time? I keep reading that on different posts and would like info.

If memory serves correctly, last May of 2007, Laine's horse, Eight Saint James Place, dropped dead soon after crossing the finish lines at the Jersey Fresh three star event. It was an extremely hot day - I believe the heat was blamed for the horse overheating to the point of death. Please somebody correct any errors here.

[frugalannie]

Prayers and jingles for Lainey and her friends and family. Lainey, I hope your recovery is uneventful and rapid.

And my deepest condolences on the loss of Frodo. Lainey and Frodo were a magnificent partnership, and will always be remembered as such.

My first awareness of Lainey was when she and her mother sang the National Anthem at Groton House one year. I was in the trailering area getting ready for Stadium, and I heard these two lovely voices wafting over the PA system a capella. I kept asking everyone what the recording was because it so captured me, only to find out it was a competitor and her mother singing live. I've followed her career since, and truly wish her and her whole team heart's ease as she recovers from her injuries.

[La Gringa]

Very sad news. It makes me sick to my stomach all these tragedies... it's really too much to take for me. I don't know how the riders keep going after all these bad events lately... it would be hard for me to.

Jingles for Laine's recovery.... I am sure she is heartbroken.

:(

[RiverBendPol]

Could someone please tell me what happened to her the first time? I keep reading that on different posts and would like info.

Horsenut, you can read all about it here, if you want to cry all day.
http://special.equisearch.com/blog/horsehealth/2007/06/another-event-horse-fatality-eight.html

[maxdog]

On her website is states she is on a vent-2 punctured/collapsed lungs....jingles:no:

[findeight]

At that, she is probably lucky judging from the descriptions of the fall. Hope her luck holds in the days to come.

[clivers]

RIP Frodo - you were a wonderful horse to watch and I'm sure an even more incredible partner to Laine.
Best wishes for a complete and speedy recovery Laine - from the heartache too.

[McVillesMom]

If memory serves correctly, last May of 2007, Laine's horse, Eight Saint James Place, dropped dead soon after crossing the finish lines at the Jersey Fresh three star event. It was an extremely hot day - I believe the heat was blamed for the horse overheating to the point of death. Please somebody correct any errors here.

The necropsy actually determined that the horse had a severe acute GI bleed.

I can't imagine how painful it must be to lose two horses so tragically in the space of less than a year. My heart goes out to everyone involved.

[Samantha37]

RIP Frodo...
My heart goes out to everyone involved :(

[horsenut1966]

Thank you for the info and links...I had read about her on the "featured riders" of Rolex.. I loved her story. I am sad for her and her family. It says the other horse she was riding was her friends...who had died at an event...too much : (

[Reds-n-Greys]

:cry: Godspeed Frodo:cry: Prayers for Laine

and thank you JRey for positng the link to that photo. They both looked so happy:sadsmile:

[One Star]

Beautiful pictures of Lainey and Fro Fro to remember him by:

[4Martini]

We are planting flowers today and I will plant them for you. They will be Frodo's flowers.

That is a great idea! I have a yellow rose I planted the day one of my good friends passed away (I got the call right after I had finished planting it- so I planted it as he went missing in his kayak in a really big rapid.)

I saw it budding the other day. I can't wait for it to flower. The bright yellow flowers always remind me of what a great fun person my friend was and make me feel a little better. I can't drive by his house without crying, but for some reason the big yellow roses always make me smile. It's hard to not remember the good times when looking at bright yellow.

Hugs to everyone! Jingles for Laine

[One Star]

How appropriate! Lainey always wears a yellow ribbon in her hair for showjumping. :)

[J. Turner]

God bless Lainey. Get strong and breathing on your own. Soon you'll have that awful ET tube out of your mouth. I hope you'll be breathing over the vent soon instead of it having to fill your lungs. I had a baby who was on and off a vent for almost 5 months and my heart goes out to you. I'm sure through all this equipment and pain and poking all you want to do is curl up in a ball and cry, but you can't. You can't even talk or sob to let it all out because of that stupid tube. Well, just know there are hundreds, if not thousands of horsepeople here who are here to help you bear the weight of your pain. Imagine thousands of people who have never met you are with you in spirit to mourn the loss of your best friend. Frodo may be gone physically but just remember, he is your angel, still carrying you through.

I hope you see this thread so you know how many people are pulling for you.

[flyingchange]

Well said J. Turner.

Laine - you are not alone. We are all with you holding you in our collective arms.

[dogchushu]

Lovely pictures One Star.

I'm not an eventer, but I did follow this pair. Lainey and Frodo seemed to have such a great partnership and showed so much joy in their endeavors.

Very sad. My thoughts and prayers go out to Lainey for a full recovery and all my sympathies for her loss.

[onwego]

Huge jingles for both riders, especially for Lainey's recovery!!!:(:(:( Jingles for both horses as well as they find their way across the rainbow bridge:(:( What a tragic weekend.

[c_expresso]

http://troutstreaming.smugmug.com/gallery/4597626_cJnCq#284648594_FQGn4
Pictures of their whole test Friday.

If I were Lainey I could never event again... and I bet you she will be back out there ASAP with Eric and Alex and Seajack, and that says something.

[pony grandma]

God bless Lainey. Get strong and breathing on your own. Soon you'll have that awful ET tube out of your mouth. I hope you'll be breathing over the vent soon inside of it having to fill your lungs. I had a baby who was on and off a vent for almost 5 months and my heart goes out to you. I'm sure through all this equipment and pain and poking all you want to do is curl up in a ball and cry, but you can't. You can't even talk or sob to let it all out because of that stupid tube. Well, just know there are hundreds, if not thousands of horsepeople here who are here to help you bear the weight of your pain. Imagine thousands of people who have never met you are with you in spirit to mourn the loss of your best friend. Frodo may be gone physically but just remember, he is your angel, still carrying you through.

I hope you see this thread so you know how many people are pulling for you.

I was there yesterday two fences over. I am crying as I read this thread and this really got me as I deeply feel that need to curl up in a ball and it breaks my heart knowing that she can't cry for her friend right now. I've had to euthanize two horses due to injury and you just never ever get over it. The only consolation that I had with it was that there really was no decision to make, it was already made. I never had to wrestle with that. It was the humane thing to do with your partner. The grief is unimaginable. God bless her and all of her support people. Our hearts are with you in every way.

[Platinum Equestrian]

What a beautiful pair. Hugs to Lainey and her family during this tragic time.

[Kenike]

So she's actually a lot more injured than initially reported. Not a surprise, but still not the news I think any of us were hoping to hear this morning.

Lainey, you're a beautiful, strong woman. Jamie and Frodo are frolicking together now, and both are with you always. Get strong, get better, and we'll all be here cheering you all the way.

[kookicat]

I didn't realise that there had been two awful accidents.

Huge jingles for Lainey. I watched her at Blenheim and she looks like a lovely person.

[IfWishesWereHorses]

Thank you for the info and links...I had read about her on the "featured riders" of Rolex.. I loved her story. I am sad for her and her family. It says the other horse she was riding was her friends...who had died at an event...too much : (


So tragic ;-(

Eric (Mazetto) belonged to Jonelle Richards (well known NZ rider) who produced him through to 4* level before selling him to USA based british rider Eleanor Brennan (who used to post on here...). Eleanor was tragically killed last year off another horse, and after her death her family passed Eric to Lainey to ride.

I have had Lainey's blog in my favourites since she posted about going to Hong Kong for the pre olympic event that was held last year and live vicariously through her posts lol!

Get well soon Lainey from down here in NZ.

[Platinum Equestrian]

So tragic ;-(

Eric (Mazetto) belonged to Jonelle Richards (well known NZ rider) who produced him through to 4* level before selling him to USA based british rider Eleanor Brennan (who used to post on here...). Eleanor was tragically killed last year off another horse, and after her death her family passed Eric to Lainey to ride.

I have had Lainey's blog in my favourites since she posted about going to Hong Kong for the pre olympic event that was held last year and live vicariously through her posts lol!

Get well soon Lainey from down here in NZ.


The story gets even more tragic. Lots of prayers being sent her way.

[c_expresso]

The story gets even more tragic. Lots of prayers being sent her way.

Laine was good friends with Eleanor; Laine was riding Mazetto/Eric in Eleanor's colors (gold/green) in honor of Eleanor, since riding at Rolex was Eleanor's dream. Laine had a great go on Eric yesterday morning and was near the top of the pack, after a double clear XC.

[Auburn]

I watched the fall on the screen in the Eq. Club tent. I have never actually seen a rotational fall and pray never to see one again. Laine is lucky to be here.

May God Bless her and her family in this time of pain and loss.

As someone else posted, I believe that this was my last time to go to X-country day at The Rolex. Having witnessed all of yesterday's falls, either in person or on the video moniters, I just don't think that my heart is in it to watch anymore. :sadsmile:

[Jazzy Lady]

From the Rolex website:

Family Statement for Laine Ashker
First and foremost we'd like to thank everyone - Laine's friends, fellow competitors, fans and organizers - for all of the incredible support and well wishes sent our way. Given the sheer magnitude of Laine's fall, we have a great deal to be thankful for. The good news is there was no injury to either the brain or spinal chord. While Laine suffered multiple injuries, including a badly broken jaw, broken ribs and clavicle, the main concern is with her collapsed lungs. She is progressing normally and is currently in reasonably stable condition in the ICU unit at the University of Kentucky Hospital. We appreciate your continued support and heart felt prayers.

Laine's Family

[Becka]

Laine, and her Mother are in our thoughts and prayers today. This is such horrible news. They were both so wonderful to my family and I when we went to see their horse 'Fishbones' some years ago.

I've followed along in her journey, and have, many times prayed for her success....I just feel awful for her today, having just read of her accident!!

We wish them the best and know only too well how the loss of this wonderful horse will be for them, having gone through the loss of a beloved equine friend, and family member ourselves.

Please know that you are in our thoughts and prayers today, and always!

Becka

[not again]

Years ago a good friend suffered a similar fall over a hinged coop at a horse show. It is a long recovery, but our prayers are for full healing and a return to good health. God bless the family during this time.

[MusicityBound]

When are we going to all wake up and realize eventing is not safe? Having attended Rolex all weekend and witnessed the falls this is the worst Rolex I have ever seen. It is a sport of risks but when people and horses are dying every year at this rate it is completely unacceptable. Eventing has huge problems that must be addressed and the sport must be changed.

[Robby Johnson]

There is much I would like to say about this but have a difficult time finding the words.

I sadly had a perfect few of Laine's fall yesterday. I, along with my friends, was standing at the rope perpendicular to the fence.

I have never seen a rotational fall. The sheer witness of it sent me to my knees. Laine is beyond lucky to be alive. The only thing I can say as a result of witnessing the fall is that the sport MUST be adapted to remove the risk of rotation. I will never forget seeing that as long as I live. It's an image that has been on replay in my head the past 24 hours.

[Sannois]

prayers and jingles for lainies Swift recovery!
I had moved away from the basket fence a few horses before her fall.
I still was in view and turned just in time to see his hind legs flip.
My heart breaks for her. Praying she will be on her feet in a hurry! :(:cry:

[hedmbl]

There is much I would like to say about this but have a difficult time finding the words.

I sadly had a perfect few of Laine's fall yesterday. I, along with my friends, was standing at the rope perpendicular to the fence.

I have never seen a rotational fall. The sheer witness of it sent me to my knees. Laine is beyond lucky to be alive. The only thing I can say as a result of witnessing the fall is that the sport MUST be adapted to remove the risk of rotation. I will never forget seeing that as long as I live. It's an image that has been on replay in my head the past 24 hours.

I had hoped to never see one as well. I was not at Rolex on saturday but was emailed a link of the fall earlier today. The image was absolutely horrific. I was shocked someone would post that video so soon after the accident when everyone is still reeling. Major jingles to Lainey, my heart really goes out to her and her family...from the looks of the fall we are quite lucky to not be mourning the loss of such a talented rider as well as a phenomenal horse.

[Paragon]

One of my "Facebook friends" put a link to the video in her status message. No real indication of what it was. I clicked on it... the clip is so short, I didn't have a chance to click away. Seriously horrifying.

[Samotis]

the kentucky website also said that The Quiet Man was also euthanized. Wow, so sad. I hope that Lainey will be ok.

[wanderlust]

Poor, poor Laine and Frodo. I saw the youtube video, absolutely horrifying. I can't imagine having seen it in person.

Jingles and hugs to Laine.

[RiverBendPol]

So tragic ;-(

Eric (Mazetto) belonged to Jonelle Richards (well known NZ rider) who produced him through to 4* level before selling him to USA based british rider Eleanor Brennan (who used to post on here...). Eleanor was tragically killed last year off another horse, and after her death her family passed Eric to Lainey to ride.

I have had Lainey's blog in my favourites since she posted about going to Hong Kong for the pre olympic event that was held last year and live vicariously through her posts lol!

Get well soon Lainey from down here in NZ.

Here's a cool picture-I did wonder why she was in green and gold. Thanks for this background. Lainey, we're all pulling for you...
http://www.useventing.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/MorningCrossCountryRoundsatRolexKentucky_C361/Ashker.jpg

[findeight]

Certain agendas? Are you kidding?

After years of not riding eventing myself but supporting fellow riders that want to do it, I no longer can do that and have been vocal about it.

It's the dead horse thing at the upper levels, almost every Rolex since I lived in the area and I read almost every **** has a catastrophic wreck. Not always rotational but made more likely to cause career ending injury or worse by the contruction of the fence.

Riders have a choice and choose to point the horse at something that could kill them both. For what? Personal glory? Failing to understand what can happen or thinking it won't happen to them?

Tradition? Come on...ducks and flower baskets?

So, yeah, I have an agenda. Dead horses and terrible rider injuries at the very top levels at increasingly regular intervals ands being told I just don't get the kick on at all costs so don't understand.

Guess not.

[annikak]

Lets not forget that this thread is about Laine- and Frodo. Not the sport in general.

I had met Laine in FL before, but only quickly.

This past Thursday, Laine and Eleanor's parents were at the USPC office for the dedication of the fund in Eleanor's honor. I spoke to Lainey for few moments and she is a very sweet young lady. We spoke about Frodo and Eric, and you could tell that she was thrilled to be there and how much she loved Frodo- how "special" he is! They handed out ribbons and buttons in Eleanor's colors that we wore on XC day. You could tell that what happened to Eleanor had been very very difficult for Lainey

But the moment that touched me the most was watching her talk to 3 young kids and their dad when they asked her questions. The one question was..."You ride him in all 3 parts???" and her very sweet comment, not at all condescending, was "I do!" and she went on to explain what eventing was about. Patient and kind. All good things. A

I was at the ditch in the coffin complex right after the flower jump. The view that each person had was indeed different then the jumbo-tron. I had my camera fixed on her as she headed toward the jump. My thoughts are with the Ashkers and their support team. There are indeed no words.

[ChocoMare]

Rt66Kix was an outrider at Rolex this year and was posted at the Flower Basket jump, so she saw the whole horrible thing live. She was in tears as she told me about it and I joined her. :cry:

My deepest sympathies to Laine on the loss of such a fine horse. My heartfelt prayers to her for healing: physical and emotional.

[2016 RoyalCrown KTug]

I was there yesterday two fences over. I am crying as I read this thread and this really got me as I deeply feel that need to curl up in a ball and it breaks my heart knowing that she can't cry for her friend right now. I've had to euthanize two horses due to injury and you just never ever get over it. The only consolation that I had with it was that there really was no decision to make, it was already made. I never had to wrestle with that. It was the humane thing to do with your partner. The grief is unimaginable. God bless her and all of her support people. Our hearts are with you in every way.


WOW! You just said that perfectly. Honestly, I could not have said it better myself. I lost Tug just about 18 months ago and I think about him everyday. I am still not 'over him' and never will be. its something that you live with and it haunts you and you would do anything in the entire world to see x horse one more time to tell him/her you LOVE them! Something like this you never get over, and thats why we all need to be unbelievably strong for Laine's sake. We are her base of support and need to be here for her, now and a year down the road.

RIP Frodo. I know Tug and a slew of other world-class athletes were there to guide you across the Rainbow Bridge. Thinking of you...

Gillian

[farmgirl88]

here is some photos of Frodo at Kentucky this year before his death. i just thought they'd be nice to share:

http://www.rk3de.org/photo_gallery_photo_view.php?id=521

and Lainey and Frodo's bio on the site:

http://www.rk3de.org/featured_rider.php?id=12

[relocatedTXjumpr]

We had just left that jump to walk to the ducks when we heard there was a fall.

We saw the tarps and the horse trailer and saw the second one pull in.

What was sickening for us, not seeing the actual fall, was the BobCat poor limestone over the impression Frodo had left on the ground, it looked just like a horse.

We left after that.

I cant even begin to imagine the magnitude of that fall, and I am thankful that we didnt actually see it.

My thoughts and jingles are with everyone envolved. and GodSpeed to Frodo and The Quiet Man.

[closetoperfectionfarm]

HMMMMM, so let's see, as many ULR and BNT and others on these threads say, it is a lack of training at the lower levels and therefore, that is a big reason for all the falls, well, which of these riders are "lower level riders"????????
Falls yesterday,
Laine
Sarah Hansel
Dorin North( 2 X I believe)
Heidi White
Boyd Martin
Corrin Ashton
Tara Ziegler
Almost Allison Springer by a hair
and then we have in the last few years
Ralph Hill
Darren C
Kim Meier
Elenor Brennan
and on and on..... so, which one of these is a LLR??????????????
I don't buy that theory at all.

[Fallbrook]

News Update at http://www.lex18.com/Global/story.asp?S=8236834&nav=EQlp

Includes video of comments by Laine's mother

[boppin along]

That is such great news..... does anyone kinow what kind of vest she was wearing because it sounds like that saved her life. WOW, every rib broken is unbelievable.
Best wishes to her and her family

[FrittSkritt]

boppin - I doubt it was the vest, they don't do much for crushing injuries. Unless it was a Woof Exo vest, but I don't think so.

[gchildean]

I don't know if this has been posted yet but Laine's webpage is posting daily updates from her family. The website is www.laineashkereventing.com.

[blackwly]

I found this very odd...the NBC affiliate in Nashville carried a story on Laine's accident tonight. Looks like the national media may be picking it up- Laine and Frodo have no connection to Nashville that I know of.

The story concentrated on Laine's injuries and featured interviews with her mom. They had shots of the picnic basket fence but not the fall itself.

Anybody seeing this popping up in the media? It can not be a good thing for our sport, I think...I'm still getting the NYT article emailed to me by everyone I know with the subject, "This isn't what you do, is it???"

[PCEventing]

How can anyone really be surprised??? There are alot of up and coming riders now who did not event in the olden days when you learned how to bravely gallop fences out of stride. We took the education of the horses and riders away by gradually eliminating steeplechase and "slowing them down" by increasing the technicallity. Now our younger riders do not know how to jump and come under paced at the bigger spread fences...evidenced from Lanie's last fall at Rolex several years ago where her horse bounced the footbridge when it was presented in a nearly collected canter for a fence that demands a balanced galloping attack. Not to pick on Lanie personally but it's a very large problem at nearly every show I have seen lately.

[RealityCheck]

There was also a pretty detailed article on the Lexington Herald website (I assume also in the paper itself) including a heart wrenching picture of The Quiet Man's fall, actually of him catching a leg and falling. The Louisville Courier Journal ran a short article Sunday morning about Rolex in general, and it included a brief statement about Laine and Frodo as well. Although I'm all for more media coverage of eventing, this is not the kind of publicity the sport needs.

[Jaegermonster]

I don't know if this has been posted yet but Laine's webpage is posting daily updates from her family. The website is www.laineashkereventing.com.

RIP Frodo, Jingles for Laine.
Is anyone else having trouble reading the updates? I get the site fine, but with the design of it the updates are half blocked by the graphics or whatever and hard to read.

[hookedoneventing]

why in the video footage link from the Lexington Herald do they make the statement that Laine was riding another horse for a friend who was sick and couldnt ride Rolex...did anyone catch this? Mazetto was Eleanor's horse...

[hedmbl]

why in the video footage link from the Lexington Herald do they make the statement that Laine was riding another horse for a friend who was sick and couldnt ride Rolex...did anyone catch this? Mazetto was Eleanor's horse...

I caught the same thing. Fact checkers must have been asleep at the switch.

[c_expresso]

New york times article about Lainey
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/29/sports/othersports/29eventing.html?ref=sports

[closetoperfectionfarm]

There is an update on her condition on her blog and a sweet statement from her Mom about the trophy named afterher horse St. James, that died last year.
I would like to write a personnal note to Valerie but I can't find where to send it on Laine's web site or blog, does anyone know the name of the farm or web address? My heart just aches for her.
Thanks

[LexInVA]

There is an update on her condition on her blog and a sweet statement from her Mom about the trophy named afterher horse St. James, that died last year.
I would like to write a personnal note to Valerie but I can't find where to send it on Laine's web site or blog, does anyone know the name of the farm or web address? My heart just aches for her.
Thanks

Crow's Ear Farm, Inc.
1745 Genito Rd.
Crozier, VA 23039

They are relocating to CA and selling their farm but that is their current VA address. Valerie has an AOL account but anything you send there might go straight into SPAM.

[Tazzie]

There is an update on her condition on her blog and a sweet statement from her Mom about the trophy named afterher horse St. James, that died last year.
I would like to write a personnal note to Valerie but I can't find where to send it on Laine's web site or blog, does anyone know the name of the farm or web address? My heart just aches for her.
Thanks

Can anybody fill me on what the St James Trophy is about? I know James's story, but what is the purpose of the Trophy itself? Thanks!

[horse-loverz]

On the first day of dressage on Thursday Lainey rode in the little golf cart with me and my friend after her first dressage ride. She was so excited and friendly and we both wished her well. I was near the jump when the accident happened and caught only the tail end of the fall but the aftermath will remain etched in my memory forever. I wish her a speedy recovery and hope that more safety measures can be taken. I am a weenie H/J wannabe myself and admire the courage that all you eventers have. It is a passion you have and is truly amazing and beautiful to watch when done well (even if it makes me wet myself a little:lol:) You are well rounded athletes and I hope that more can be done to keep the spirit of your sport alive but safe for all of you as riders and your mounts.

Sending get well thoughts to Lainey, and now Corrine from Ky.

[MandyVA]

I don't think today's lexington herald update has been posted--WARNING there is a pretty graphic photo of the fall: http://www.kentucky.com/779/story/389828.html

[ponyjumper4]

Crow's Ear Farm, Inc.
1745 Genito Rd.
Crozier, VA 23039

They are relocating to CA and selling their farm but that is their current VA address. Valerie has an AOL account but anything you send there might go straight into SPAM.

Her mom is relocating, but Laine had said she was staying in VA, unless that had changed.

There is an update on her condition on her blog and a sweet statement from her Mom about the trophy named afterher horse St. James, that died last year.

Eight St. James Place.

[LexInVA]

Her mom is relocating, but Laine had said she was staying in VA, unless that had changed.


Their farm website says they are relocating the business to CA. Laine would have nowhere to live and train if she stayed here unless she's already got a place of her own that nobody knows about.

[FrittSkritt]

Lex - that's (the relocating bit) been up since at least last year, don't know if it was still true... esp since they came from CA to VA specifically for eventing! :)

[LexInVA]

Lex - that's (the relocating bit) been up since at least last year, don't know if it was still true... esp since they came from CA to VA specifically for eventing! :)

Well their property is still listed on the market for sale at $775K. :cry:

[Sannois]

on how she is getting on?? Still jingling and sending good thoughts for her fast recovery! :yes:

[CurlyLindsay]

Do you think she'd get cards sooner if they were sent to her c/o UofK Hosipital ICU?



on how she is getting on?? Still jingling and sending good thoughts for her fast recovery! :yes:

Nothing posted for today, yet. But her mom has been posting updates to: http://laineashker.blogspot.com/

[Sannois]

Do you think she'd get cards sooner if they were sent to her c/o UofK Hosipital ICU?





Nothing posted for today, yet. But her mom has been posting updates to: http://laineashker.blogspot.com/
As of what her mom posted Yesterday she is getting slowly better, one of her lungs has sealed and she is taking so breaths on her own. Her vitals are improving. So very awesome what Buck and Karen are doing!
Thanks for the link! Still sending healing prayers! :yes:

[Marieke]

As a mom of a beautiful daughter I feel her love and pain. Boy, a big hug for her too.

[snickerdoodle]

From Laine's mom

Laine continues to progress well. Yesterday was hard on me because the nurses are gradually lowering Laine's sedation so if I went to kiss my daughter's precious forehead or hand she would wake and struggle to get up. It is a horrible situation to watch your own daughter caught between the zones of medication and reality.

Laine goes for surgery on her jaw thank God today. She is third patient in the OR room so time is still up in the air as to when she actually goes. I am ancious to see my girl's face afterwards. Her jaw will be wired shut and they are putting a trachea tube in so ventilating will be more effeicient and easier for her to withstand. Her lungs are doing so much better ....I am so THANKFUL for her combative spirit. That's John Wayne stuff right there. Michael and I will update her surgery later today when she gets wheeled back to her ICU slot. My girlfriend of 30+ years is the designer and "keeper" of Laine's website so she will be sure to post it immediately. I can't even start to thank ALL of you for your e mails, calls, cards, gifts, and mostly PRAYERS for my daughter's recovery.....I love each and every one of you and all your efforts are paying off. There is NOTHING more precious than your own child. NOTHING.

Which brings me to our boy Frodo Baggins. Briefly, our devastation will be felt for YEARS TO COME. Laine's partnership with her boy will never be equalled. He is gone. We have only memories. While I was running this morning I thought of how in shock not only I am in but my family around me that he is even gone. When I drive home to Crow's Ear Farm and see my black beauty is missing from the famous "Jamie field" and stall #2......it will be another whole round of heartache and void that both Laine and I will endure. Laine's partner gave her confidance. So much is now gone for my beloved daughter. I am extremely concerned as to how and if she will even pick up the broken pieces and continue on with her eventing carreer. It will be a choice and decision only she can make. I have deliberately NOT mentioned Frodo on our website because Laine DOES NOT KNOW about his dimise. When she was first flighted into emergency on Saturday Laine's hands were bound but she was able to finger out the letters F_R_O_D_O on her sheets......I protected her from the truth and said Katie her incredible groom was taking care of him. Katie thank God, was the only one with him and said he remained our 'champion' even till the end. So please, until I can find the right moment to grapple the strentgh and tell Laine.....let's keep this "mum's the word". I need your continued support on this. I do believe this task, will be one of the most difficult ones for me to carry out.....and nurse along for the months and years ahead. I THANK ALL OF YOU.

Valerie

FLASH UPDATE:
12 NOON

the OR room is unavailable today due to emergency priorities. Friday will be our targeted date. Laine is having a tracheoscomy as I write to better her ventilating and possible breathing on her own. I will update later tonight or tomorrow regarding her procedure today.

[DLee]

Oh God that made me cry. :cry: I am so, so sorry. Strength to Laine, her mom, the whole family, Frodo's people. :cry:

[Mollys Mum]

Oh, this just breaks your heart. That poor girl, that poor family. What a horrible tragedy.
I wish them strength and some modicum of peace. It's hard to imagine what it must be like to be at the center of that maelstrom. With all the discussion and controversy on the heels of this terrible accident, you have to remember it all happened in a split few seconds. We have the luxury of time--Lainey and Frodo did not. My heart goes out to them. :(

[TB or not TB?]

Oh my god. I'm just sobbing away. That poor, poor girl. What ever she may or may not have done, or what ever errors she may have made, NO ONE deserves that. It just breaks my heart.

[LexInVA]

I would recommend that nobody send anything written to the hospital until Valerie Ashker has broken the news to her daughter. Though we obviously have no idea when that will happen, we should respect her wishes in this matter. When Laine is feeling better or at least stabilized, those who wish to do so can figure out something to show her that we stand with her in her time of grief and healing.

[Kenike]

yup, that made me cry. Again. :cry:

I think it would be wise to wait to send things to the hospital until Ms. Ashker gives the word.

[ddashaq]

This is so incredibly sad.:( I wish strength to Laine and her family to get them through this, I simply cannot imagine what they are going through.

[SR Rider]

God bless Laine and Valerie and place your protecting and loving arms around them

Give Valerie the strength and wisdom of a caregiver protecting her health in the process; give Laine the strength to heal emotionally and physically.

God give Valerie the rights words at the right time and give superhuman comfort to Laine at that time

amen

[Gunnar]

Laine and family you are forever in my thoughts! Frodo will never be forgotten!:sadsmile: I pray Valerie has the strength and the wisdom to do what is right for Laine!:sadsmile:

Keep up the jingles everyone!:sadsmile:

[katherine w]

This has been so hard to read and follow. I just read Laine's blog on the Rolex website the other day and I read every inch of the COTH article so... We all gained this connection and now this. Laine is so young, May that youth hep her through this tough time and bring her healing. I admire her mother in having to make the choice about Frodo and now to keep it quiet as she attends to her daughter. She has no time to consider the sport or choices... Just the time to hope and pray and to one day find the words to tell Laine about her horse. May they all find strength.

[Debbie]

How very sad. Poor Valerie to have that news yet to break.

[relocatedTXjumpr]

I cant even begin to imagine. Her road to recovery will be a long one, but, if anyone can do it, she can.

Grab mane and kick on Laine.

[allpurpose]

God bless Laine and Valerie and place your protecting and loving arms around them

Give Valerie the strength and wisdom of a caregiver protecting her health in the process; give Laine the strength to heal emotionally and physically.

God give Valerie the rights words at the right time and give superhuman comfort to Laine at that time

amen

Thank you for this little prayer. It is so needed.

[jetandmegs4]

How sad, I can't believe how strong her mother is through all of this. Jingling hard for all involved.

[Mariequi]

Just a note that the editor called me back and left a message for me to call her. Haven't had time, but will call her tomorrow.

[retreadeventer]

Everyone please pray for Laine and for her mother. I have no special insight but from reading the updates she appears still in tough shape, and being on the ventilator and having the tubes is very dangerous, and scary for anyone who sits in the room with her. Her surgery pushed back to Friday -- can't be good news. Her jaw will be painful! Oh I hope she doesn't have too much to bear and can mend quickly, in all ways.
There but for the grace of God, go I -- Jingles and prayers.

[horse-loverz]

Speaking as an ICU nurse I thought I might explain some of the procedures and reasons for them. The tracheostomy (or trach) Lainey received is a routine procedure for someone who will be on the ventilator for a while or someone who will require jaw surgery and having the jaw wired shut as Lainey will and still need ventilator support. The trach will make weaning from the ventilator easier for her and will be more comfortable than the tube down the throat that she has now. Once Lainey is off the ventilator and doesn't need the trach anymore the trach can be downsized then removed and the hole heals over leaving a relatively small scar. The fact that the nurses are easing her sedation some means her lungs are more stable and they can let her become more aware. Sometimes we knock pt's out very deeply especially with severe lung injuries so that the pt doesn't work against the ventilator making it harder to adequately ventilate them and supply their body with plenty of oxygen. The fact that they are letting her wake up more shows she is doing better from that standpoint.

UK has traumas come in and they often bump stable planned surgeries. That doesn't mean that Lainey was too unstable for surgery it just means that more critical pt's came in and took her slot. Her jaw while a terrible break (from what I read on the blog) is a relatively stable injury compared to someone who's leg has been severed in an accident or a gunshot victim.

I worked at a trauma hospital for 7 years and have worked ICU for almost 9 years. I do not work at UK and do not take care of Lainey but this is just a clarification of how pt's like Lainey are handled.

I am jingling and praying for a quick recovery for Lainey. I have comforted and held hands and cried with family members of pt's just like her and I love my job very much. While not out of the woods Lainey sounds like she is progressing quite well for her injuries and her youth, fitness level, and determination will go a long way in making her recovery a quick one.

I also met Ralph Hill at Rolex this past weekend and that man amazed me. It is a miracle he is doing as well as he did considering the injuries he sustained. He told me every time he goes back for a checkup the Drs. tell him "You're not supposed to be alive!!" He loves that he proved them all wrong and is itching to do more in the saddle. He said he is tired of riding the lazy school horses and wants to do more. He is an inspiration to all!!

[annikak]

Thanks for that explaination.

I am jingling for Laine and her mom and family (and the Brennans, for that matter). I do feel that she is doing the right thing for her daughter- and that it must be the hardest thing ever to do. I pray to God that I will never be in such a situation- and admire her ability to post on the blog. I hope that she knows how much we care and are thinking about her.

I wish I knew what to do and how to do it to make things easier for them.

[vineyridge]

Moderators, could this thread be pinned up top? Like Darren's?

Will there be an fundraising for them, do you think? I wish someone would open a Cafepress shop or something like that with inexpensive choices--or open an account at one of the free fundraising sites. I could donate, but not much. I could buy something, but not something expensive.

[J. Turner]

Speaking as an ICU nurse I thought I might explain some of the procedures and reasons for them. The tracheostomy (or trach) Lainey received is a routine procedure for someone who will be on the ventilator for a while or someone who will require jaw surgery and having the jaw wired shut as Lainey will and still need ventilator support. The trach will make weaning from the ventilator easier for her and will be more comfortable than the tube down the throat that she has now. Once Lainey is off the ventilator and doesn't need the trach anymore the trach can be downsized then removed and the hole heals over leaving a relatively small scar. The fact that the nurses are easing her sedation some means her lungs are more stable and they can let her become more aware. Sometimes we knock pt's out very deeply especially with severe lung injuries so that the pt doesn't work against the ventilator making it harder to adequately ventilate them and supply their body with plenty of oxygen. The fact that they are letting her wake up more shows she is doing better from that standpoint.

UK has traumas come in and they often bump stable planned surgeries. That doesn't mean that Lainey was too unstable for surgery it just means that more critical pt's came in and took her slot. Her jaw while a terrible break (from what I read on the blog) is a relatively stable injury compared to someone who's leg has been severed in an accident or a gunshot victim.

I worked at a trauma hospital for 7 years and have worked ICU for almost 9 years. I do not work at UK and do not take care of Lainey but this is just a clarification of how pt's like Lainey are handled.

I am jingling and praying for a quick recovery for Lainey. I have comforted and held hands and cried with family members of pt's just like her and I love my job very much. While not out of the woods Lainey sounds like she is progressing quite well for her injuries and her youth, fitness level, and determination will go a long way in making her recovery a quick one.

I also met Ralph Hill at Rolex this past weekend and that man amazed me. It is a miracle he is doing as well as he did considering the injuries he sustained. He told me every time he goes back for a checkup the Drs. tell him "You're not supposed to be alive!!" He loves that he proved them all wrong and is itching to do more in the saddle. He said he is tired of riding the lazy school horses and wants to do more. He is an inspiration to all!!


I hadn't read the latest update. I hadn't realized Laine had been trached. Although it's serious, it will make a big different in her comfort. I am not a medical professional, but a trach mom. Malcolm had a trach for 2 1/2 years. When he was ventilated, he was so much more comfortable with the trach creating the airway, than an ET tube down the mouth, through the larnyx and down the trachea. In many ways it's much more invasive than a trach as an ET tube (an subsequent reintubations, if necessary) can do damage.
This is an ET tube through the nose with ventilator tubes attached:
http://family.webshots.com/photo/2719172980089794230txkYol
This is the same week with a trach, but unventilated:
http://family.webshots.com/photo/2455191580089794230ifbbnR


Laine probably wouldn't be able to talk much with an ET tube, but with the trach she should be able to talk if there's not swelling in the trachea or upper airway. She'll just have to take a breath and cover the opening of the trach, the air will be diverted up and out through the vocal chords and she'll have some vocalization. Of course if her jaw is wired shut, that's a whole other issue. She'll have much more freedom of movement with the trach because they are not as likely to let you move around, once she's ready, with an ET. People with trachs/portable vents are mobile.

A new tracheostomy causes irritation of the mucus membranes around the site and she'll have to be suctioned to move that sputum (lung gunk) out so it doesn't sit in the lungs and cause an infection. Because of her collapsed lungs and broken ribs she won't have the strength to cough it up herself. Hopefully, she'll be off the vent and out of the trach by the time she's that strong.

The stoma (hole) can close very quickly. If the trach comes out by mistake you have to move quickly to put a new one in. (Plus the breathing aspect ...)

Here's a picture of Malcolm's stoma in the middle of the trach change:
http://family.webshots.com/photo/1526832243083214396WGgTmk

This is Malcolm in the pre-op room getting checked out by the nurse before his surgery to reconstruct his trachea. The contrast isn't very good in the picture, but you can see there is a little depression under the trach (called suprastomal collapse). Some people who have that need surgery to correct it. Sometimes it is just cosmetic and needs no surgery unless for cosmetic reasons. Malcolm's whole trachea was redone so his stoma was close surgically.
http://family.webshots.com/photo/2510895360089794230EIimnW

I have have a series of pictures of my doing a trach change on Malcolm when he wasn't quite one. It's not gross. In fact my gloved hands block the stoma most of the time. But it gives you a good idea of what a trach looks like, although Laine's would be much bigger.

Here is the link to a trach change and suctioning (at home). For professionals, this is a "clean" procedure, not "sterile" at home.
http://family.webshots.com/album/526826386zikyPZ
www.tracheostomy.com

Suctioning can be uncomfortable as it literally sucks the breath out of you, but if done probably it shouldn't hurt. The depth of the catheter used (they have centimeter markers) is measured against the length of the trach tube. In a child one should never go about 1 cm beyond the end of the trach tube. If you do, you risk traumatizing the carina (cornina) which is the point of flesh where the trachea branches into the two bronchial tubes (it's the point of an upside down "V"). Sometime nurses aren't careful. Sometimes you have to remind them NOT to do deep suctioning. Malcolm has had bruising and scar tissue from nurses suctioning too deep.

Trachs are scarey, but they are not the end of the world, and for Laine it should not be permanent unless she has some airway obstruction/collapse we don't know about. Malcolm's airway swelled and scarred nearly shut (about 3 mm diameter) because of long-term ET intubation. It is probably better that she does have a trach.

You can see the difference in comfort level, even in a baby. (Now if you browse, you'll see him just a few hours after the operation to insert the trach with was traumatic for such a small baby and he indeed was puffy and gross looking.)

With trach: (Ah, I can smile and move my mouth and touch my face!): http://family.webshots.com/photo/1344114942045565162vrIrqn
vs.
without trach/with ET tube and vent lines
http://family.webshots.com/photo/1330888009045565162YFjtGS

Most people are downsized in the trach (meaning the diameter of tube is narrower) so they start to breath around the cannula (tube) and also through their mouth. Eventually, they may "cap" the trach so the patient can breath totally through the mouth/nose for a trial period in the hospital or at home. The trach stays in to keep the airway "patent" - open - in case there is a problem. Eventually, they'll decannulate (take the trach out). Depending on how long the person has had the trach and if there was any airway collapse, the stoma usually closes up on his own.

I wish Laine all the best in her recovery. I know UK is a great hospital. We go all the way from Georgia to Cincinnati for Malcolm. There a lot of very good hospitals in that area, much thanks to wonderful philanthropists and horse people like the Lindners (h/j people).

Working against the ventilator is kind of hard to explain, but essentially the ventilator makes you take a breath at certain intervals set on the machine (also the depth of the breath), but if you're too awake your breathing rate is higher and if you're uncomfortable, which I hear it can make you panicky to have this machine breathing for you, you start to breath "over" the vent. That could mean you're taking more breaths than programmed, deeper breaths, etc. Also you're using more energy that the medical folks want to go towards healing. Most sedation meds (morphine derivatives) are respiratory depressants, meaning they lower the resp. rate, which is one reason why they can kill you. So it's a double edged sword, keeping you sedated helps you heal faster because your energy/nutrition goes where the body needs it most, but sedation also requires ventilation at a certain dosage. Laine probably needed the ventilation to keep her lungs inflated. Even when you breath out, a certain amount of air stays in your lungs to keep them inflated (there is a word for it - tidal volume?), but with a collapse, the lungs need help staying inflated. I think she would gradually be weaned off the vent first showing her lungs could stay inflated during expiration. Eventually she might even go on CPAP (at least they do this with kids) to give her that extra puff so she doesn't have to work as hard, then down to wall O2.

I hope this help people understand some more from a family's point of view. I wish I could give her mom a big hug. I hope she's not there in June, but I'm taking Malcolm to Cinci for a check up. I hope one day I can give Laine a hug and tell her and her mom how brave they are. Maybe they'd like to see what Malcolm went through, though different circumstances.

[ponygrl]

During Rolex when people were posting that day either from KHP or watching the webcast there was mention of them traching Frodo.

Do any vet-types have insight as to why that would be done? I was talking with my ICU nurse mother (also a horse person) and we weren't exactly sure how his injuries warranted that... heck, I didn't know they even trached horses. I figured there was some sort of intubation for big surgeries (colic, etc) but never really thought about a trach on a horse.

[ponyjumper4]

Moderators, could this thread be pinned up top? Like Darren's?

Will there be an fundraising for them, do you think? I wish someone would open a Cafepress shop or something like that with inexpensive choices--or open an account at one of the free fundraising sites. I could donate, but not much. I could buy something, but not something expensive.

ThinLine is one of Laine's sponsors, in fact, we were her first sponsor and I believe she was one of the first riders we sponsored as well under current ownership. Laine is very dear to us so we are currently accepting donations on her behalf on our website, as well as a Laine Ashker Package, which includes her favorite ThinLine products where 30% of the sale price of each package goes to Laine.

[Becka]

Poor Valerie!

Our thoughts and prayers are with her this day and in the many days ahead.

When I first met her, she had just lost someone very dear to her....and through it all, she was a very gracious, kind, and caring person. [If Laine hadn't told me of her loss, I wouldn't have known what she was going through.]

We had gone to her place to have a look at a horse listed for sale, and she sat there on the bleachers talking with us as if we'd known each other for many years. She's a very wise horse person herself! She and Laine offered to let my daughter come stay there with them so that Laine could work with her....we'd never met before! If the distance wasn't so far, we would have loved to let our daughter train with Laine!!

They love their horses SO MUCH!! I'm sure this is going to be VERY hard on them both....as we read from her on the blog. It's just so sad.

She's a VERY strong woman!! So, if 'anyone' can make it through this rough time, and get her daughter through it, I feel she's one to do it. My heart just breaks for her!! For 'both' of them....

God Bless them and help them through this horrible time.

Becka

[CurlyLindsay]

I just found a page on the University of Kentucky Hospital website that lets you fill out a form and they print and deliver to patients.

While her mother has asked that Frodo not be mentioned for the time being, I'm sure general well wishes and prayers would be appreciated: http://www.ukhealthcare.uky.edu/eGreet/

[Tiki]

Even when you breath out, a certain amount of air stays in your lungs to keep them inflated (there is a word for it - tidal volume?), That would be the residual volume. The tidal volume is the amount of air moved with each breath.

being on the ventilator and having the tubes is very dangerous, and scary for anyone who sits in the room with her.Why would you consider being on a ventilator and having an ET, NT or trach tube dangerous????? It is, as opposed to dangerous, life saving. It may be scary to someone who does not have a medical background, but dangerous????? I'm very curious as to why you think that.

[J. Turner]

That would be the residual volume. The tidal volume is the amount of air moved with each breath.

Why would you consider being on a ventilator and having an ET, NT or trach tube dangerous????? It is, as opposed to dangerous, life saving. It may be scary to someone who does not have a medical background, but dangerous????? I'm very curious as to why you think that.


Dangerous .. wrong word. Can have side effects, mistakes can happen, yes? Extended intubation can lead to tracheal stenosis in infants, children and adults, but life saving, yes. Can mistakes and injury to the larynx/trachea take place? Yes. I just meant there are risks.

[hookedoneventing]

There is a new update on her website this afternoon, sounds like she is still making progress:

"It's been five days since Laine's terrible fall and with each new day we've been blessed with signs of progress. One of the emotional elements of healthcare management is to prepare families for both good and bad days. The proverbial emotional roller coaster ride. So, far our set backs have been few and Laine's forward steps have been consistent. One backward step came about last night when Laine's fever suddenly spiked up to nearly 103. It was determined that she had an infection and a case of pneumonia; both being complications that are quite common with a lung injury of this sort. They started her on three seperate antibiotics and her fever has already come down significantly as a result.

The good news is that Laine's lungs continue to gain strength and her doctors have again lowered the level of assistance being contributed by the ventilator. At one point, Laine was drawing almost all her own breaths. It turned out to be a bit premature, so they went back to the previous settings. Laine's jaw surgery is now scheduled for first thing Friday morning. The plan is to plate the lower jaw line and then reset the right upper jawbone and then wiring it all together.

As far as Laine's attitude goes, she is an amazing kid. They've begun to cut back the level of her pain/comfort meds so from time-to-time, she'll drift back into consciousness, opening her eyes and trying to get herself oriented. She's begun to ask the obvious questions, like what happened and where am I? Not a moment after she was asking about her beloved horses, Frodo and Eric. Keep in mind that communication is now done by lip reading and hand gestures because the tracheotomy has rendered her vocal chords temporarily inoperable. There is a certain "fiest" in Laine today and while the communication process is very frustrating, she was tried desperately to communicate in her sedated state. There was one point that Laine was particularly struggling to ask the nurse something that she couldn't make out. Eventually, they were able to determine that she was asking for a mirror. Now, while that's normally a simple request, one has to think about the benefits of providing it in this instance. We did, she looked for a moment and then drifted back into a peaceful rest."

[snickerdoodle]

The latest update from the blog

It's been five days since Laine's terrible fall and with each new day we've been blessed with signs of progress. One of the emotional elements of healthcare management is to prepare families for both good and bad days. The proverbial emotional roller coaster ride. So, far our set backs have been few and Laine's forward steps have been consistent. One backward step came about last night when Laine's fever suddenly spiked up to nearly 103. It was determined that she had an infection and a case of pneumonia; both being complications that are quite common with a lung injury of this sort. They started her on three seperate antibiotics and her fever has already come down significantly as a result.

The good news is that Laine's lungs continue to gain strength and her doctors have again lowered the level of assistance being contributed by the ventilator. At one point, Laine was drawing almost all her own breaths. It turned out to be a bit premature, so they went back to the previous settings. Laine's jaw surgery is now scheduled for first thing Friday morning. The plan is to plate the lower jaw line and then reset the right upper jawbone and then wiring it all together.

As far as Laine's attitude goes, she is an amazing kid. They've begun to cut back the level of her pain/comfort meds so from time-to-time, she'll drift back into consciousness, opening her eyes and trying to get herself oriented. She's begun to ask the obvious questions, like what happened and where am I? Not a moment after she was asking about her beloved horses, Frodo and Eric. Keep in mind that communication is now done by lip reading and hand gestures because the tracheotomy has rendered her vocal chords temporarily inoperable. There is a certain "fiest" in Laine today and while the communication process is very frustrating, she was tried desperately to communicate in her sedated state. There was one point that Laine was particularly struggling to ask the nurse something that she couldn't make out. Eventually, they were able to determine that she was asking for a mirror. Now, while that's normally a simple request, one has to think about the benefits of providing it in this instance. We did, she looked for a moment and then drifted back into a peaceful rest.

[horse-loverz]

Why would you consider being on a ventilator and having an ET, NT or trach tube dangerous????? It is, as opposed to dangerous, life saving. It may be scary to someone who does not have a medical background, but dangerous????? I'm very curious as to why you think that.


I think that anyone not accustomed to seeing a person lying in bed with tubes coming out of several places and beeps and pumps and monitors overwhelming. That is what I was trying to explain in simple terms that her procedures and machines are routine treatment for her injuries and to hopefully show that they are not dangerous and how they are helping her.


You wouldn't believe some of the questions I get asked about pt's and their machines and while some may seem silly to me I often have to take a step back and realize that this is not an everyday scene for most people and start explaining things at the most basic level.

Keeping my fingers crossed for a quick and uncomplicated recovery for Lainey.

[closetoperfectionfarm]

OH, that update brought tears to my eyes, I just want to hug that poor dear mother who is being so brave and strong, how heart wrenching for her.
I'm not religious but I an praying HARD now for them.

[caffeinated]

I wish I could reach through the web and give her mother a hug. It does sound like consistent positive steps, but man is it heart wrenching. I can't imagine what they're going through right now.

[McVillesMom]

During Rolex when people were posting that day either from KHP or watching the webcast there was mention of them traching Frodo.

Do any vet-types have insight as to why that would be done? I was talking with my ICU nurse mother (also a horse person) and we weren't exactly sure how his injuries warranted that... heck, I didn't know they even trached horses. I figured there was some sort of intubation for big surgeries (colic, etc) but never really thought about a trach on a horse.

It was my understanding that immediately after the accident he had significant bleeding from his nose. I can only assume that there was enough blood accumulation in his nasal cavity that he was unable to breathe normally.

[NeverTime]

During Rolex when people were posting that day either from KHP or watching the webcast there was mention of them traching Frodo.

Do any vet-types have insight as to why that would be done? I was talking with my ICU nurse mother (also a horse person) and we weren't exactly sure how his injuries warranted that... heck, I didn't know they even trached horses. I figured there was some sort of intubation for big surgeries (colic, etc) but never really thought about a trach on a horse.

Just speculating, but I would imagine it was for the same reason they did it to Laine: a severe lung injury that was compromising his ability to breathe. The press release about the decision to euthanize the horse said that he had suffered a skull fracture and a severe lung injury, so that explanation would stand to reason.

[ponygrl]

but how would a trach compensate for a lung injury without a ventilator (I didn't hear about him ventilated at the scene) - it would just avoid him breathing through his mouth/nostrils and use a hole in his throat to get air in and out.

[TBCollector]

Originally Posted by ponygrl
During Rolex when people were posting that day either from KHP or watching the webcast there was mention of them traching Frodo.

The EMTS at the scene were also saying that Frodo was euthanized on course. We later found out this wasn't true. Maybe it's the same thing with the webcast mention of the intubation...?

[horse-loverz]

If there was an upper airway obstruction due to swelling it may help. They can bag ventilate in the field vs ventilator. At least that's how it would work in humans.

[monstrpony]

Jingles and hugs for all the needed strength for Laine, her mother, and those around them. What a difficult thing to have to go through. :(

[moonriverfarm]

Someone who watched the live feed said they saw Lainey and Frodo both get up, she remounted and they both collapsed. True?

[hedmbl]

Someone who watched the live feed said they saw Lainey and Frodo both get up, she remounted and they both collapsed. True?

False. Frodo got up once, I believe, then went down again.

[RunForIt]

miles and miles away, but this morning, I ran every minute with Valerie.

If ever there was a meaning in "kick on" - you are the one who will find it...so glad you have running to sustain you, to quiet you. Bless you. You are not alone...

[EnjoyingRiding]

I really, really admire Lainey's mom. Her updates are making me choke up. Come on Lainey, pull through!

Thanks, Horseloverz and Jturner for your explinations, they cleared up some of my questions while reading the blog.

[annikak]

UPdate-
sit quietly by my daughter's bedside and begin to realize what the "roller coaster" ride is all about.
Laine is aggitated because she wants answers to questions that neither her mom or dad can understand. Her communication skills are crippled by a moraphine drip line and the incredible frustration in this 10 x 10 room is emotionally exhausting. So vivid the memory of tragedy paling the one of victory.
My one source of strength comes from a home page website where I know thousands of our friends are supporting us with prayers & love.
I feel it. I hold it. And I thank each and EVERY one of you for it. That "it" keeps me returning to her tiny room with a comforting smile.
Valerie

Who ever said that laine got up was totally TOTALLY wrong. That is the stuff that makes me nuts- speculation leads to even more rumors. Downright lies make me even MORE nuts. Good of you to check to make sure that things are totally on track...the best we can do.

Sorry- pet peeve of mine- huge one in fact!

[Carol Ames]

Time to re ride courses she rode in the past ;:replay the videotape in the brain; ;)That is how I kept my sanity during my first month:eek:s confined to bed , first intheICU later in the nursing home ( ugh!)reminders of those courses and emotions keep us going; You might jut say the names of certain courses or rides which were especially meaningful to her;)

[Kenike]

I don't know anything other than what was reported, but I'd imagine they put the trache tube in and bagged him, just as a human would have done when emergency assistance is needed.

Horse-loverz, great explanation! Please accept this nursing student's thanks :)

[horse-loverz]

I don't know anything other than what was reported, but I'd imagine they put the trache tube in and bagged him, just as a human would have done when emergency assistance is needed.

Horse-loverz, great explanation! Please accept this nursing student's thanks :)

No problem.. Good luck in school!!! I loff my job and cannot imagine doing anything else.

[Marieke]

I wish I oculd just hug her mom. What a strength she must have. I have the blog bookmarked, hope that I will have her strength if I ever need it.

[Reds-n-Greys]

Someone who watched the live feed said they saw Lainey and Frodo both get up, she remounted and they both collapsed. True?

The live feed switched away from Laine and Frodo right after the fall and focused on Karen. It was announced that that they were both up ~ we heard Nigel say it over the speakers and I think Kerry or Amy may have echoed that report. But it was not shown that they were up.

The info on the trach being called for ande used came to the thread from kt, I believe, who's husband was transporting the vet to the fence with the equipment.

[cindylouwho]

Each time I read the blog, tears come to my eyes. I can feel her pain. My thoughts and prayers are with them. I also pray to the horse Gods for Frodo. As I am sure your horse (and other pets) wait for you at the gates of heaven. God got a great horse that day.

[sofiethewonderhorse]

Someone who watched the live feed said they saw Lainey and Frodo both get up, she remounted and they both collapsed. True?

Absolutely did not happen. Frodo did get up once, he then went back down and didn't get up again...not even to get on the ambulance.

[J. Turner]

I think I read in one of the press releases that they intubated him and bagged him. That would mean an ET tube.

[Lamma70]

It looks like Laine got through the jaw surgery okay...this was just posted on her blog. Whoo-hoo! Jingle! Jingle! for a very speedy recovery.

Michael and I looked at one another and gasped with surprise! LAINE STILL HAD ALL HER TEETH! Dr. Gal said the surgery went better than expected!!!! Her mandible break was repaired with 2 plates and a screw.....she sheared a tooth but it was still there to wire her jaw straight. If she did not have the lung issue Dr. Gal said he would have sent her home!!! No exterior scars!
Yes, as I am sitting here with anticipation to see our daughter.....I feel the strength of all your e mails and phone calls....supporting Lainey and the love of our family. I can't tell you how INCREDIBLE I feel right now!!!!! The green light is bright with hope across the lake.
ALL OF YOU......thank you. Thank you for bringing us into your lives and keeping us safe. Our gallant boy Frodo I know has watched over his loving partner...and I am sure when Laine was under anesthetic....she could feel his soft muzzle nudging ever so gently on her sweet face.
Laine will be able to see us in an hour or so. I will walk confidantly down the hall thru her ICU doors.

thank you my dear dear friends. thank you.

[tx3dayeventer]

YEAH!!!!!!!!!! :):):):):) That is awesome news!!!

[annikak]

Fantastic news!!!!!!

[eks]

What fantastic news! Her family sounds like they are wonderful people.

The part about Frodo made me cry...

[Davignport]

What wonderful news. May God watch over her and her family and help her to get well..

[animaldoc]

Horses (unlike many other species) are obligate nasal breathers. So if their noses are obstructed, they will suffocate (remember all the sponges killing horses in racing?). With bad trauma (like Frodo had) there may have been enough damage that he couldn't breathe out his nose and had to have a tracheostomy (where you cut a hole from their neck to their trachea)- you can put an endotracheal tube through a tracheostomy and ventilate them. This could be done in a horse that was conscious but traumatized/sedate. If the horse was unconscious/anesthetized you can pass a tube through the mouth into the trachea to ventilate.

I wasn't there, so I don't know exactly what they did, but thought that might help explain.

[Kenike]

I read her blog each day....a couple times a day in some cases. It always makes me tear a bit (as a mom), but today absolutely made me cry. It's no wonder Laine is as wonderful and strong as she is....look at her amazing mother!!
I've had a few people email me about Laine, too. Non-horse people. I linked her blog to mine after I wrote about the accident and it is being viewed by so, so, SO many people. Each and every person is touched in ways that just can't be imagined. A lot of prayers are being said for her, as well.
I'm so thankful the surgery went well. :)

[Gunnar]

Godbless Valerie for being so strong for Lanie! The surgery sounds like it went well and that the road to recovery is paved in gold! :) JIngling for Lanies! :sadsmile:

Of course Godspeed to Frodo and of course The Quiet Man! You are my heroes! :sadsmile:

[Lamma70]

Kenike,
I have been reading her blog almost every day too, and this one today made me cry (not that the others don't). It is good news for Laine, but just the mentions of Frodo make me choke up. I never even knew Frodo, and have never met Laine, but I read their journal on the Rolex page and they seemed like a great pair. I hope Laine will be okay when she hears the news of Frodo. That's not going to be easy. But with such a strong mother and friends, she will have a great support system.

That poem at the top that is dedicated to Frodo made me cry too, but it is a great poem for a great horse.

[roki143]

I, like so many others, have been following the blog daily, and would like to give props to Valerie for being so open and forthcoming with information at what must be one of the hardest times for her. Many of us relate to Laine, or remember her because of her kindness and being so informed is comforting...

So, thank you valerie!

[Tazzie]

What wonderful news about Laine! Her mom writes so well, when reading her blog I feel like I am right there with her.

[zagafi]

Many prayers and positive thoughts still going out to Laine and her family. I love seeing good updates!

[Kenike]

Has anyone linked or sent this thread to Valerie?

[ToucheToujour]

Does anyone have Valerie's email? I have a message I'd like to send along...

[LexInVA]

Does anyone have Valerie's email? I have a message I'd like to send along...

I dunno if she'd want me to just dump it here for everyone to click on it or not but it is on the Crow's Ear Farm homepage if you want to get it.

[ToucheToujour]

Thank you, LexInVA!

[TB or not TB?]

Hmm their real estate listing is gone. How odd. :confused:

[LexInVA]

Hmm their real estate listing is gone. How odd. :confused:

It's still on the broker page and it has been re-listed with "Drastic Price Reduction!". Whatever that means. Here it is. (http://www.realtor.com/realestate/crozier-va-23039-1094619721/)

[arab_roots]

The first time I had heard the poem was in the movie "Dreamer". When I read it just now I started to tear up. Frodo was a great ambassador to our sport. Jingling hardcore for Laine and her family!!!!! May Frodo and Quiet Man run free in fields of eternal green.

[Reds-n-Greys]

What wonderful news!!! Go Lainey!! We're all pulling for you!!

[EnjoyingRiding]

The first time I had heard the poem was in the movie "Dreamer". When I read it just now I started to tear up. Frodo was a great ambassador to our sport. Jingling hardcore for Laine and her family!!!!! May Frodo and Quiet Man run free in fields of eternal green.

That's where I'd heard it before! Thanks, I couldn't remember and it was driving me crazy...

It's perfect for Frodo, and Quiet Man...and so many other horses who put so much heart into Eventing.

Such great news about Lainey! Keep it up girl!

[FLeckenAwesome]

continuing to send prayers, cyber hugs, and jingles for laine, her mom, and her family.

hopefully she'll recover quickly and will be able to grieve in peace.
RIP Frodo.


that last picture of their dressage test....the one where they are both smiling....just brings tears to my eyes! i would hold onto that picture in my brain forever! it's just such a great shot.

[retreadeventer]

I do not know how you tell someone that the horse did not make it, but they did - and how seriously in danger she was, and if there was a choice, as a parent, one would choose the child and not the horse but not by much.
I have had to tell owners about bad news with horses. It is not easy. It take courage.
I guess you talk about the quality of their relationship, the bond they had, the strength each gave to one another, and how those gifts, however great and however difficult to live without, are not going to go on forever. They are gifts, given by God, and then, we He feels we have learned what we need to learn, they go back to Heaven.
Great loving relationships are the most important thing in the world. On tombstones it does not say great event rider or where you finished at Rolex. It says Loving Wife or Beloved Husband. Anyone who has loved a horse as Laine obviously does has already been given a great gift, greater than I may have with my horse, whom I love very much. They shared a lot, and that is why it hurts when they leave us, but it is what they left us learning that is important, and what we do with that knowledge in the future that matters, not that they are gone, or that someone should be blamed.
I hope sincerely that everyone gives Laine's family as much support as possible through prayer or whatever dedication one practices. :)

[TeddyRocks]

Godbless Valerie for being so strong for Lanie! The surgery sounds like it went well and that the road to recovery is paved in gold! :) JIngling for Lanies! :sadsmile:

Of course Godspeed to Frodo and of course The Quiet Man! You are my heroes! :sadsmile:

GodSpeed...

Go Laine!!!

I cried when I read the part about Laine feeling Frodo there with her. WHAT an amazing woman her mom must be...

[Blkarab]

While I'm not an event rider--I'm so very touched by all the support the eventing and equestrian community has given to each other and the two riders hurt at Rolex, especially Laniey.

I have been so moved by all of this. Just reading the posts and then the releases by Laniey's mom, I have been moved to tears time and time again. Words could never express the pain that the family must be going through during this time. The uncertainty of Laniey's condition and the added heartbreak of losing such a beautiful, fine horse and friend.

I'm rallying for Laniey's recovery and I have been reading the posts for any updates. I'm sharing her story with my dressage friends who don't know what happened over the weekend at Rolex and we are brainstorming for ways that the dressage community in our area can help her out.

I have gone out every day and hugged my beautiful horse and tell her how special and beautiful she is and it's stories like this one that remind me how precious and limited the time is that we have with our partners.

Laniey's family is in my prayers. They will need tons of support for her healing, both physically, but most importantly mentally.

[ezmissg]

I just checked her site again, and there is an incredibly poignant entry from her dad today.

As a mom, I cannot imagine the horror through her mother's eyes. Then, you stop to consider her father as well, and his anguish. It must make the hurt even that much greater for Valerie. At least, I know it would for me.

There will always be that "thing between Daddies and their Little Girls".

Continuing to jingle and pray for each of them.

[Gunnar]

The message from her Father is more than I can bear! What eloquent and thoughtful parents Lainie has! She will be lucky to have their support thru this terribly tough time in her life! If only she could be spared the sad news but she cannot!:sadsmile:

Thanks for taking such good care of your daughter. You set a fine example for all parents in the world!:):sadsmile:

Once again I have to add Godspeed to Frodo and the Quite Man! You will never be forgotten for your bravery and your big hearts!:sadsmile:

I am still jingling for you Lanie! :sadsmile:

[annikak]

Wow- his post is amazing. True, and helps put all the pictures of what they are going thru in order.

:cry::sadsmile: How can it be both? But it is...

[deltawave]

as a parent, one would choose the child and not the horse but not by much.

Huh? Not in my world. Love the horses I certainly do, but they are not in the same universe as my human family.

[retreadeventer]

Delta you know what I mean, Lainey's mom and her love their horses very much.
Pray for her health and continued recovery and for her family's strength to help her thru.

[Erin Pittman]

Does anybody have an email address for Laine's mom? Steuart would like to send her an email, but I didn't see a way to contact her on the blog. If anyone can PT me, that would be much appreciated.

Her blog brings tears to my eyes every time I read it. What an amazing family!

[annikak]

Ifyou go to her webpage for the farm, there is a contact link- that is what I used.

[Erin Pittman]

Ifyou go to her webpage for the farm, there is a contact link- that is what I used.

Thanks. I had already tried that and the only page that was working was the entry page (no links). But after reading your email, I took a chance and doug a little and found it. Thanks again.

[Bravestrom]

Not to upset anyone with this but there are some lovely dressage pictures on the site of a well known canadian eventing photography some might enjoy seeing.

http://www.photosbybailini.com/g1/2008_rk3de_riders_LAshker_Frodo

Best wishes to all for a speedy recovery