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Auventera Two
Mar. 27, 2008, 04:21 PM
http://www.renegadehoofboots.com/

Check it out!!!!! :D :winkgrin: :D :winkgrin:

sublimequine
Mar. 27, 2008, 04:26 PM
:droooooooooooooooooool:

They're not HORRIBLY expensive, either... too bad I just bought a pair of Easyboots! :lol:

Auventera Two
Mar. 27, 2008, 04:33 PM
I want the pink ones http://www.renegadehoofboots.com/bootcolors.html so bad I can't stand it!!!!!! :eek:

Not fair!! I just bought 3 sets of Easyboot Bares. :lol: I LOVE the Bares, but dangit I want pink Renegades. :sadsmile:

sublimequine
Mar. 27, 2008, 04:40 PM
I want the pink ones http://www.renegadehoofboots.com/bootcolors.html so bad I can't stand it!!!!!! :eek:

Not fair!! I just bought 3 sets of Easyboot Bares. :lol: I LOVE the Bares, but dangit I want pink Renegades. :sadsmile:

I kinda like the green ones myself... :D

dreamswept
Mar. 27, 2008, 08:43 PM
There's none in turquoise, dang it. :p

What timing though, Mitch is getting his front shoes pulled tomorrow, and getting a barefoot trim (he's a Haffie, his feet are big and strong, I don't know why he had front shoes on when he doesn't need them)

I'll have to talk to the gal trimming him about the Renegade boots, I imagine Mitch probably need/want boots up front and the Renegades look really easy to put on.

matryoshka
Mar. 27, 2008, 10:28 PM
Another vote for turquoise! Though I was too busy looking at the mechanics to notice the colors much.

Did anybody notice that the boot length can be reduced some for wide feet and over-reachers? I'd also like to try the glue-on shoe. So much on my wish list, so little money to spend!!

kcmel
Mar. 27, 2008, 11:21 PM
Darn! They aren't making a large enough size yet for my easyboot "tweener". I would love to try them.

Petstorejunkie
Mar. 27, 2008, 11:44 PM
I am holding out for blue ones....
they do look cool, although i wouldn't jump in those, and we do just fine jumping in epics... dont know why perhaps because the material looks slick on these... :confused:
I cant wait to hear some user responses!

Maria Wachter
Mar. 28, 2008, 01:17 AM
My pony has a pair of the bright orange ones. I love the color on him. He's a black/bay color. I love the renegades!!! I've had them for about a month. I take them in all type of terrain, mostly rocky, desert stuff and they are wonderful!!! Everyone is going to love these boots!! Once my cavallo's fall apart, I'm going to get a pair for my arabian and qh. My friend got me on the renegade bandwagon. She's a farrier and has been riding in them since I've known her(about a year). She loves them too! Plus they send you extra straps for when the velcro stops sticking. You can change them out and they last twice as long!

Maria

Cashela
Mar. 28, 2008, 12:06 PM
How do they do in the mud???

I wouldn't mind jumping on the barefoot wagon if I had the green pair of renegades, can't afford them though

Kyzteke
Mar. 28, 2008, 12:26 PM
I notice the site doesn't mention any sort of guarantee or estimates on how long a pair will last.

Personally, I think $170 a pair IS very expensive. For a set of 4 (including S&H), I can have one horse shod all around for the entire competition year (six-seven months). The rest of the time my horses go barefoot anyway. If my horse blows a shoe, my farrier guarantees he will be out within a day or two to replace it at no charge...and, although that has rarely happened (once, with a horse with over reach issues), he would do it every week for the total six week period if he needs to.

So where is the advantage?

saratoga
Mar. 28, 2008, 12:34 PM
I think the advantage is just if you believe in keeping your horse barefoot :)
Though I think I am saving money, I used to pay $65 every 5 weeks for shoeing, now I am trimming myself.
I have been using Renegades since August. they have held up well. One pair, I did 2 50s, one LD and lots of trail riding at home and they are still in great shape, have to replace the velcro pieces a few times since then tho.

Auventera Two
Mar. 28, 2008, 01:31 PM
I notice the site doesn't mention any sort of guarantee or estimates on how long a pair will last.

Personally, I think $170 a pair IS very expensive. For a set of 4 (including S&H), I can have one horse shod all around for the entire competition year (six-seven months). The rest of the time my horses go barefoot anyway. If my horse blows a shoe, my farrier guarantees he will be out within a day or two to replace it at no charge...and, although that has rarely happened (once, with a horse with over reach issues), he would do it every week for the total six week period if he needs to.

So where is the advantage?

The advantage is in having a choice to pick whatever you feel happy about. :) $170 is high if you compare them to the Easycare boots that run between $140-$160 a pair. Hoof boots definitely outlast shoes because the horse only wears them while ridden and not 24/7. On my QH, I've used one set of boots per season for the last 3 years. My Arab was just under saddle last year so I didn't even wear out a set on her. Hers could go another season if she hadn't outgrown them. Libbey of course is foundered and does only light trail so her boots will last probably 5 years.

But I trim my horses myself so I pay nothing for trims except the cost of tools. So boots end up being MUCH cheaper for me. But also the advantage of boots isn't just the cost. It's the fact your horse can be shoeless all day and all season except when you're riding.

Kyzteke
Mar. 28, 2008, 01:45 PM
On my QH, I've used one set of boots per season for the last 3 years. My Arab was just under saddle last year so I didn't even wear out a set on her. Hers could go another season if she hadn't outgrown them.

But I trim my horses myself so I pay nothing for trims except the cost of tools. So boots end up being MUCH cheaper for me. But also the advantage of boots isn't just the cost. It's the fact your horse can be shoeless all day and all season except when you're riding.


So you are saying that , on average (for a horse you are conditioning for and competiting in endurance rides), a set of boots will last just one season? One year, I should say?

As for trimming my own horses...I don't see that happening for me, I guess. If I only had one or two horses, maybe.... but right now I have 10 and the farrier has to come out to do the non-riding horses anyway, so might as well have him do the riding horses too.

I'm simply exploring the barefoot option at this point. All my riding horses have great feet and ALL my horses are barefoot 365 days a year unless they are being ridden. In the early spring when the ground is soft the two riding horses stay barefoot till June or so, then we shoe the front. By July I put them all around. Then they come off in November. Never had a problem.

But I'm riding them more now, and I'm always looking at newer, better options...the barefoot concept intriques me, but I really don't want to spend hundreds of $$$$ on stuff that doesn't work.

saratoga
Mar. 28, 2008, 02:05 PM
So you are saying that , on average (for a horse you are conditioning for and competiting in endurance rides), a set of boots will last just one season? One year, I should say?
.

I think its impossible to say how many seasons or years a boot will last, since everyone rides a different amount of miles and also do some of the miles completely barefoot. With my Renegades, I've probably used each boot for a total of 350 miles and the tread is still great. They have not needed repairs yet. The gaiters of the Epics tend to rip fairly frequently for me, so in my experience, there is more maintenance costs for those, but the boot itself has quite a long life.

Its worth a try, the boots. You may like the whole deal, and if not, you can always sell the boots on ebay for a decent price.

ayrabz
Mar. 29, 2008, 09:45 AM
ok...my guy is currently shod in the front---but has been barefoot most of his life until a popped hind splint required shoes for wedge pads to heal.
From there, we had four shod all around for awhile to support while re adjusting angle and get some heel back...now down to only fronts.

This horse is base narrow (in the hind), and can interfere fetlock to fetlock with certain work-----therefore, heavy, bulky hind boots will not work with his slight clearance. I am curious about the glue on shoe.....can anyone elaborate on if they've used this?

thanks

ayrabz

Romantic Rider
Mar. 29, 2008, 06:15 PM
I am so getting those for my pony. My big horse has such soft feet she needs shoes to go ride just about anywhere. And some of the places we ride would wear out even steel shoes really fast. But my pony just needs some protection for rocky terrain, as she has good feet. We're paying 95 bucks every 4 and 1/2 weeks to shoe our horses. That's just too much.

matryoshka
Mar. 29, 2008, 10:52 PM
This horse is base narrow (in the hind), and can interfere fetlock to fetlock with certain work-----therefore, heavy, bulky hind boots will not work with his slight clearance. I am curious about the glue on shoe.....can anyone elaborate on if they've used this?

thanks

ayrabzA friend of mine is using rundown boots (possibly also called skid boots) effectively for her horse who interferes with the hind legs. They cover the entire fetlock without extending down the pastern or up the cannon. You might consider these if your horse cuts himself.

Maria Wachter
Mar. 30, 2008, 06:04 AM
They mostly last a good 8 months, ridden 5 days a week, even in rocky, desert conditions
Plus, they are amazing traction on paved roads and rocky terrain.

Maria


I notice the site doesn't mention any sort of guarantee or estimates on how long a pair will last.

Personally, I think $170 a pair IS very expensive. For a set of 4 (including S&H), I can have one horse shod all around for the entire competition year (six-seven months). The rest of the time my horses go barefoot anyway. If my horse blows a shoe, my farrier guarantees he will be out within a day or two to replace it at no charge...and, although that has rarely happened (once, with a horse with over reach issues), he would do it every week for the total six week period if he needs to.

So where is the advantage?

Gestalt
Mar. 30, 2008, 10:47 AM
I have a pair of Old Macs and they are a pita. They don't fit the horse I bought them for and to put them on every ride for the horse that can use them.... well, I guess I'm just lazy. If I use the boots they increase my groom/prep time to 40 minutes. With 3 horses to ride after work, I don't want to spend that amount of time. Brush, clean hooves, tack and go equals about 15-20 minutes per horse.

Yes, I would like something different than metal shoes, but the glue on ones aren't for everyday use and where I live, it's sand and rock. The horses' hooves wear down really fast without protection. Is there another boot out there that is quick to put on?

marta
Mar. 30, 2008, 11:48 AM
because according ot the measurement chart my mare's feet are smaller than the 00. but unlike easy care it doesn't give you info re how small of a foot can fit into those, it only gives one set of measurements. i have a feeling they'd be too large for her (she's 00 in bares).

Lookout
Mar. 30, 2008, 01:27 PM
Those look really fun, but what do they offer that other existing boots don't? They seem really rigid too.

Should I add them to my Hoof Boot page? Unfortunately I don't know anything about them. would someone with experience care to weigh in there?

http://barefoothoofcare.wordpress.com/hoof-boots/

And doesn't it seem like you'd want some kind of padding on the inside where the material touches the hoof?

saratoga
Mar. 30, 2008, 02:42 PM
The advantages to the Renegades is that they are extremely easy to put on and take off. You dont need any tools, you dont need any muscle or force.

They are actually much more flexible and have much more give than Epics for sure. The design really does seem to make more sense, taking into consideration the horse's anatomy.

Gestalt
Mar. 30, 2008, 04:04 PM
saratoga you give me hope. :) I need to see these used and talk to the usee. Looks like I should plan a trip to visit some endurance riders.

winona
Mar. 30, 2008, 07:53 PM
Cool! I will have to wait tho. Just bought a set of grips and some extra bares at the easycare sale. Maybe I'll have to resell them and try the renegades. First, I want to hear how they are in the mud in the northeast!! And, if they are truely as easy as people say to get on. With all the mud around hear, will it suck the boots off because of the gap between the pastern and sole area????

Have any rubs been reported??

matryoshka
Mar. 30, 2008, 08:15 PM
Gestalt, I hear that Cavalos are easy to apply. The Old Mac (originals) I have took some time to get used to, but now they go on much faster than Easyboots. And for Easyboots with gaiters, I prefer the Easy Up clips. They are much quicker and don't require standing on the buckle to close, nor do they need a strong hoof pick to open.

I would think the Renegades would have an advantage over EasyCare products in the low profile. Butch got a cut where the gaiter goes, so I can't use his Bares on the front until it totally heals. PIA. We're using Old Macs for now. I keep thinking the OM will rub, but they haven't yet. Butch bent the buckle in the OM back strap, so I had to cut the strap off. So far they've stayed on even in deep mud and at decent speeds. You occasionally have to check for sticks and debris that might get inside the boot if you use them without the gaiter (pastern wrap).

Diamond Jake
Mar. 31, 2008, 09:55 AM
I have been riding in my Old Macs for the past month, and they are starting to get to me.

Great..... I am certain I will be buying a pair of Renegades soon. As soon as my paycheck allows!
A2, I am comin' after you!
:winkgrin:

rmh
Mar. 31, 2008, 04:38 PM
The website doesn't give you any ordering info. Can you order directly or is it still through a "foot care specialist"?

dreamswept
Apr. 6, 2008, 01:10 PM
I'd be interested in finding out too, in getting them.

birdsong
Apr. 6, 2008, 04:03 PM
Haven't seen these in person but I still like my Old Mac G2. They look to have more tread on the sole and with a proper fit they really aren't hard to use. I used mine in the mountains, fording rivers and traveling over boulders and slipper shale with NO problems!! I could do a commercial for them , I was so pleased.

AZ Native
Apr. 7, 2008, 06:11 PM
The website doesn't give you any ordering info. Can you order directly or is it still through a "foot care specialist"?

As of last month that was the case. DH has a new client that wanted the boots, so client had to find a trimmer who does the trim Kirt advocates, which is the trim DH does .Kirt is a professional trimmer himself.
The new client is one of the top riders in the Mt. region. We are excited to see how she does in the Renegades. She is excited to go barefoot, inspite of most of her fellow competitors telling her she's '' crazy ''. Her first 50 is comimg up at the end of the month. She will be packing Bares as a back up.If I remember, I'll post and let you know how she does.

Romantic Rider
Apr. 7, 2008, 08:08 PM
I just emailed the company to order mine.

cdalt
Apr. 28, 2008, 09:35 AM
Can you tell me the e-mail address to inquire about ordering? Also, does anybody know if the boots be available in larger sizes soon? My horse's hoof measures 5 1/4 inch width and the website just lists up to 5 as the largest size. Thanks!

rmh
Apr. 29, 2008, 11:28 AM
My horse is almost 5 1/4. They said I could try it for two weeks and if it didn't work they would refund my $ except for the shipping. So far I like them. I have had one come off but I believe if was because I didn't have the backpiece far enough up on the heel bulb.

cdalt
May. 1, 2008, 08:49 AM
I did e-mail the company (turns out their e-mail is at the bottom of the home page -duh!) and they said they are coming out with a wider version of size 2 by the end of May and will have more large sizes in the near future. So I plan to hang in a wait a bit longer to make sure I get a good fit for my horse.

Daydream Believer
May. 2, 2008, 08:31 PM
Any decent farrier in my area is charging $150 or more for 4 shoes. The cheaper farriers are quite scarey and not someone I'd want putting a nailed on shoe on my horse...much less a trim. For boots that would last a season or more, they are a bargain. I might just have to get my boy a pair. I haven't found a situation where he needed a set yet but you never know!

Pippigirl
May. 3, 2008, 01:03 PM
The advantages to the Renegades is that they are extremely easy to put on and take off. You dont need any tools, you dont need any muscle or force.

They are actually much more flexible and have much more give than Epics for sure. The design really does seem to make more sense, taking into consideration the horse's anatomy.

How does the Regegade boot compare to the Cavallos? The Cavallos are extremely easy/quick to put on and in muddy conditions are easy to clean. The Cavallo boot is also cheaper to buy.

kozykidscompany
May. 14, 2008, 12:00 PM
I notice the site doesn't mention any sort of guarantee or estimates on how long a pair will last.

Personally, I think $170 a pair IS very expensive. For a set of 4 (including S&H), I can have one horse shod all around for the entire competition year (six-seven months). The rest of the time my horses go barefoot anyway. If my horse blows a shoe, my farrier guarantees he will be out within a day or two to replace it at no charge...and, although that has rarely happened (once, with a horse with over reach issues), he would do it every week for the total six week period if he needs to.

So where is the advantage?

The advantage is the hoof can work as nature intended it to. Much better blood flow to the hoof, lower resting heart rate, faster recoveries, less joint damage.

kozykidscompany
May. 14, 2008, 12:05 PM
I have Renegade boots and love them! I live in the muddy Northwest and have had no problems! I have a picture of the boots after a 15 mile conditioning ride. I will see if its possible to post. I tried epics they stayed on fine but the gaiter rubbed. If you use vet wrap it helps stop the rubbing but I think wrapping with vet wrap much cause heat!.
You won't see blue Renegades becuase they turn black in the sun. The new glue ons are the ticket for race day!!
diane

Lookout
May. 14, 2008, 10:46 PM
I have a sizing question on the Renegades which I posted on Horse Care

http://www.chronicleforums.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=147757

and I don't know how to move it over here. Could I possibly ask people to head over there and give me your insights? Thanks.

JHUshoer20
May. 15, 2008, 01:15 AM
The advantage is the hoof can work as nature intended it to. Much better blood flow to the hoof, lower resting heart rate, faster recoveries, less joint damage.

Ridiculous. Can you cite any proof of this? And try to find some credible research and not links to BUA sites.
George

Moderator 1
May. 15, 2008, 08:26 AM
JHUshoer20, you're welcome to disagree with information provided by other posters, but instead of inviting a discussion that will by nature have to leave the topic's main point (that there's a new model hoof boot released), provide the reasons why you disagree.

Other readers can decide for themselves whose perspective they value on that point.

Thanks!
Mod 1

Soltera
Jun. 3, 2008, 11:38 AM
Has anyone ever tried using one brand in front and another behind? Easyboot Bares in front, say, and Cavallos behind? Have to check the thickness, of course, but has anyone tried that?

matryoshka
Jun. 3, 2008, 11:34 PM
Yep, I used Old Macs on front and Easyboots on back of the OTTB. He has very round front feet which are perfect for OM's, and oblong hinds which are perfect for Easyboots.

Also, in one of the recent COTH magazines two top-10 completers of the Biltmore 100 had Renegade glue-ons in front and nailed-on shoes on the hinds. They completed, meaning the horses were sound at the end of the 100 miles. The horse who won the Biltmore 100 was totally barefoot. They had used some kind of pad, which they said came off early in the ride. The horse was fine.

JLR1
Sep. 5, 2008, 01:25 PM
As far as sizing, I find they are similar to Easyboot sizing and horse shoe sizes.. My mare was a 0 in a shoe, Easyboot, and Renegades. By far Renegades are the BEST. Easy on and no rubbing issues. She needed to wear them 24/7 (in a pasture) for a few weeks and never had an issue with them coming off or causing rubs. A friend of mine has a quarter horse with clubby-ish feet and unfortunately, the Renegades don't fit (I don't think she has found a boot that does fit correctly).

matryoshka
Sep. 6, 2008, 07:23 PM
A club foot might do well with the Renegade glue ons. Boots just aren't made for club feet, and even if the fit were decent, they'd still want to turn unless they were glued on.

birdsong
Sep. 6, 2008, 08:17 PM
My question is regarding the firmness of the boot. My friend loaned me new Davis boots that didn't fit her horse and I found them to be so soft and flexible that they didn't work for us.

I have old Mac G2 for the other horse though and they are wonderful except they are more difficult (but not impossible) to put on and off.

Do the Renegades stay on well...twist? rub?

matryoshka
Sep. 6, 2008, 08:28 PM
I've never tried the Davis boots (meant for riding?). They look like they'd rub.