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NJRider
Mar. 26, 2008, 04:15 PM
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TropicalStorm
Mar. 26, 2008, 04:22 PM
you know, that's somethig that never would have occured to me to do...
wonder if anyone will actually donate?

I kinda wonder why she doesn't post her name or her horse's name ...

Kimberlee
Mar. 26, 2008, 04:25 PM
Does anyone know who this is?

NJRider
Mar. 26, 2008, 04:27 PM
I found it on a search with the keywords "dressage saddle".... am saddle shopping for fun. You also find a lot of other funny hits with this search, like these weird nude statues...?!

Coreene
Mar. 26, 2008, 04:27 PM
She will be the only one at the 2010 Olympics, which does not exist...

But admire her drive!

Lawn Ornament
Mar. 26, 2008, 04:28 PM
Did anyone notice she's shooting for the 2010 Olympics... that would be the winter Olympics???

Sandra6500
Mar. 26, 2008, 04:36 PM
7th in the rankings? No name? No mention of current level or scores? Makes me think she's not advertising towards dressage people but rather folks without a clue about dressage to whom her rambling will make sense.

Dressage Art
Mar. 26, 2008, 04:37 PM
Interesting idea. Have no idea who she is. Lovely turn out, but unfortunately on the photo her horse seems to be slightly on the forehand, as well as over flexed and BTV. May be she should post her FEI photo of better quality.

Mozart
Mar. 26, 2008, 04:41 PM
What sdonohue is ranked 7th in the world? Surely there must be an sdonohue on USEF show results if she is ranked 7th in the world (mind you , she did not say it was for dressage....;))

ToN Farm
Mar. 26, 2008, 04:44 PM
The horse, "Big Easy" is 14 and showing 2nd-3rd level.

see u at x
Mar. 26, 2008, 05:15 PM
Hmmm...if her name is Susan, she's from my area and in my GMO. I don't know her, but she's from Vienna, VA and runs a web design company. She also makes and/or sells horse treats called "Canter Crunchies." www.cantercrunchies.com

Could this be a joke?

Sandra6500
Mar. 26, 2008, 05:23 PM
The horse, "Big Easy" is 14 and showing 2nd-3rd level.

hahahahhaah.. Brilliant. Of course- so typical. Please stay tuned for MY ebay auction. In which for the small price of $25,000K you may come to a show with me and groom my horse. For 100K you too can sit in the trainers stand... or at least next to the judges box... or something.

merrygoround
Mar. 26, 2008, 05:23 PM
Entrepreneurial to say the least.

I second the BTV observation.

Melissa.Hare.Jones
Mar. 26, 2008, 05:25 PM
Hmmm...if her name is Susan, she's from my area and in my GMO. I don't know her, but she's from Vienna, VA and runs a web design company. She also makes and/or sells horse treats called "Canter Crunchies." www.cantercrunchies.com (http://www.cantercrunchies.com)

Could this be a joke?

Too funny! It IS one and the same... same photos on her site and ebay.

I don't have an ebay account, but would love to hear her reply to an inquiry about several of her claims.

For $100,000, I'll bet Anky would let you stand next to her on the podium.
:winkgrin:

Sandra6500
Mar. 26, 2008, 05:25 PM
I second the BTV observation.

Well it was just a matter of time before that came up. Should we discuss Rolkur now? :D

see u at x
Mar. 26, 2008, 05:31 PM
Too funny! It IS one and the same... same photos on her site and ebay.

I don't have an ebay account, but would love to hear her reply to an inquiry about several of her claims.

For $100,000, I'll bet Anky would let you stand next to her on the podium.
:winkgrin:

OMG, it IS her!!! :eek: I didn't scroll down far enough on the website to see the picture! I'm starting to slack off in my sleuthing abilities... ;)

OK, and I'm laughing my hiney off at that Anky comment. :lol:

ETA: I took a peek at her ebay feedback. Dear God, please forgive me for being mean by saying this, but maybe she'd have a wee bit more funding for the Olympics if she'd stop buying sparkly earrings on ebay!

Mozart
Mar. 26, 2008, 05:40 PM
Showing 2nd level (are there world rankings for second level?) and hoping for a spot at 2010 Olympics (in the equine luge maybe?) Hmmmm not yet April 1 is it????

Could this be a prank played by some "friends"?

Coreene
Mar. 26, 2008, 05:46 PM
It is her that posted it. I did a question through email to point out that she had the Olympic year wrong and she replied.

No matter what she's doing now or whether or not you like her photo, good for her for thinking outside of the box.

InsideLeg2OutsideRein
Mar. 26, 2008, 05:47 PM
Did anyone notice she's shooting for the 2010 Olympics... that would be the winter Olympics???

It says 2010 WEG and 2012 Olympics (at least now it does) but if I'd be asking for 25K plus sponsorships, I'd post a picture of my horse being in front of the vertical and my heels being down and my seat not quite so much in chair position, but hey, I don't have the guts to ask in the first place :lol:

NJRider
Mar. 26, 2008, 05:52 PM
Is that her and her horse on the package of the Canter Crunchy Treats? At least her position is a little better on the treat package....

class
Mar. 26, 2008, 06:10 PM
i don't find anything admirable about this. she is just trying to scam people, pure and simple. when i get a nigerian prince's email i don't think, "good for him for thinking outside the box." or "boy, i sure admire his moxie." i think, "what a jerk."

Ambrey
Mar. 26, 2008, 06:11 PM
Well, either she's scamming or she is kind of deluded :( I suspect it is the latter, though. Maybe she's bipolar and having a manic episode?

BoyleHeightsKid
Mar. 26, 2008, 07:29 PM
ETA: I took a peek at her ebay feedback. Dear God, please forgive me for being mean by saying this, but maybe she'd have a wee bit more funding for the Olympics if she'd stop buying sparkly earrings on ebay!

LOL!! No kidding!! She can't be serious :lol:

ThatScaryChick
Mar. 26, 2008, 08:49 PM
i don't find anything admirable about this. she is just trying to scam people, pure and simple. when i get a nigerian prince's email i don't think, "good for him for thinking outside the box." or "boy, i sure admire his moxie." i think, "what a jerk."

It might be true that she is scamming, but I think she may actually be trying to come up with money in the hopes of going to the Olympics or WEG or whatever. Who knows, maybe in her mind she may have a chance of going and is training for this and wants to find sponsors.

Fantastic
Mar. 26, 2008, 08:52 PM
:lol::lol::lol: someone donated a buck as in $1.00.

Lambie Boat
Mar. 26, 2008, 09:03 PM
maybe we all should send 2 cents?

tartanfarm
Mar. 26, 2008, 09:07 PM
I'm not an experienced ebay person, but it looks to me like she did this before, earlier in the month.

Sdhaurmsmom
Mar. 26, 2008, 09:08 PM
FEIsomeday: Like you haven't already given it!:lol::lol:

Rival
Mar. 26, 2008, 09:11 PM
You guys shouldn't make fun of her. She very well could be ranked 7th in the world at the Special Olympics.....

Ambrey
Mar. 26, 2008, 09:14 PM
She very well could be ranked 7th in the world at the Special Olympics.....

That wasn't funny :(

BaroquePony
Mar. 26, 2008, 09:46 PM
Quoted by Ambrey:


Quote:
"Originally Posted by Rival
She very well could be ranked 7th in the world at the Special Olympics..... "

"That wasn't funny"

hahahaha ... OMG, what else can you say?

Wonder what's really in those Canter Crunchies.

cccsporthorses
Mar. 27, 2008, 03:28 AM
I donated a buck!! Just for fun!!

sidepasser
Mar. 27, 2008, 05:39 AM
I say if someone is willing to buy a piece of toast that has a burnt "Madonna" on it...for the absurd sum of 50,000 or whatever it was, maybe this person is on to something.

In any event, it does bring attention to the fact that it is hard, if not downright impossible, to get anywhere in the upper level horse world unless one has the right connections, a very good coach, an excellent horse and sponsorship.

I do believe three out of the four require money, the fourth..maybe not so much.

Lambie Boat
Mar. 27, 2008, 07:53 AM
way to make herself a laughingstock in the horseworld though

Halt At X
Mar. 27, 2008, 07:54 AM
I looked at the pic of her riding and thought to myself, there is NO WAY she is going to be riding in any Olympics or WEG with a seat like that.

That picture is at best a 1st level test. If she is ridng 2nd or 3rd, then she is a prime candidate for the Rider Qualification System!

ToN Farm
Mar. 27, 2008, 09:02 AM
What do you guys find so wrong with the rider's position? Besides that she has lifted her foot to aid and it is 'home' in the stirrup, her position looks good to my eye. It's just a little stiff looking.

Faults of the horse are not that it is btv. Give me a break; it's barely btv, which I don't find a huge fault anyway. What is a fault, is the the horse is not using his hind legs at all. They are just about straight, which no hock/stifle flexion. It looks like he is just powerless.

Andalucian
Mar. 27, 2008, 09:07 AM
I did get a response regarding the "7th in the world" bit:

"I just read my wording and I agree it is confusing. Sorry about that! I was not ranked 7th in the world in dressage. I was ranked 7th in the world in competitive baton twirling from the age of 11 to 17. I attended the National Championships for 10 years and was the National Champion at several events. I was one of the youngest qualified judges in the sport. I also traveled to Japan and taught twirling to Japanese trainers there to help spread the word and try to get Japan to support baton twirling as an Olympic Sport. It had been proposed as a Demo-sport for the 1980 Olympics, but that did not come to pass. At the time, baton twirling was a very big sport in America and the National Championship at Notre Dame lasted over a week, so my ranking was quite an accomplishment.

Thank you and sorry again about the confusion. It was not intended."

ESG
Mar. 27, 2008, 09:24 AM
Oh yes - baton twirling has soooo much to do with competitive dressage! :rolleyes:

And if you read the response to the next question, you'll see that she's getting ready to show 4th level, and needs money to train with Linda Zang.......................hence, the request for funding.

Poor woman. I hope the weather is nice in her world. :no:

thumbelina115
Mar. 27, 2008, 09:27 AM
This has GOT to be a joke.
Baton twirling? Pppppppppppppppft!!!!!
There is just NO way that this is real...

BoyleHeightsKid
Mar. 27, 2008, 09:27 AM
Faults of the horse are not that it is btv. Give me a break; it's barely btv, which I don't find a huge fault anyway. What is a fault, is the the horse is not using his hind legs at all. They are just about straight, which no hock/stifle flexion. It looks like he is just powerless.

These are not faults of the horse they all fall back on the rider.

egontoast
Mar. 27, 2008, 09:48 AM
[QUOTE] What is a fault, is the the horse is not using his hind legs at all. They are just about straight, which no hock/stifle flexion. /QUOTE]

Yes, what a strange photo to choose .

Jealoushe
Mar. 27, 2008, 10:00 AM
anyone who donates a dollar to this woman is the one in need of help. That is the most ridiculous sponsorship attempt I have ever seen. If it were genuine it could be a different story.

Mozart
Mar. 27, 2008, 10:44 AM
Oh. So the fact that she was ranked internationally as a teenaged baton twirler has great relevance to the fact as a 2nd/3rd level rider she believes she has a shot at the 2010 WEG's. No, that's not misleading AT ALL.

Sorry, there is thinking outside the box (good) and then there is misleading (bad).

Commander Cody
Mar. 27, 2008, 11:41 AM
I imagine (and yes, I have seen the pair) that most of her photos look about the same.

Having judged the Olympics and WEG, I wonder what Linda Zang would have to say??

Andalucian
Mar. 27, 2008, 11:57 AM
If anyone's just dying to make contributions, I do have a PayPal account. :D Sure, it's breed show stuff, not dressage, but my horse and I are actually qualified for Nationals this year in our event. He's undefeated in that division for the past four years, but we were unable to compete at Nationals in 2007 (I broke my foot at the show :sigh:) and I need back surgery to finish this season - way killing the budget here. Just in case those of you who are dying to throw money towards a cause would like options. :winkgrin:

(And yes, this is entirely tongue-in-cheek. Although I wouldn't turn down money... :p )

papony
Mar. 27, 2008, 12:10 PM
I think Linda would be appalled. This whole thing borders on a scam and gives dressage riders a bad name. It makes a mockery of qualified team candidates who deserve sponsorship and are thinking outside the box to raise money.

If everything goes perfectly, it will take more than two years (well past WEG 2010) to put enough muscle on this horse to carry himself in the collection required at Grand Prix, let alone the movements. Her headline and "encouraged misunderstanding" of her international experience indicates she is not an innocent horse crazy girl with a dream, but someone trying to mislead people into paying for her riding lessons.

I don't admire her moxy, I challenge her integrity.

see u at x
Mar. 27, 2008, 12:33 PM
Baton twirling? REALLY??? That's a sport??? And this relates to dressage HOW??? I guess they both require balance and precision, but even that seems like a stretch...

Granted, I will give her credit on her...um...CREATIVITY and she is probably a better rider than I am (she at least rides at a higher level than I do). It's entirely possible that she's a very lovely person to be around. However, her scores at 2nd and 3rd don't say, "WOW." Also, I can think of 10 other riders in the DC area who I would gladly give my spare change to for sponsorship, and they all ride PSG or above. It doesn't look as though she's ever shown above 3rd level, so I don't understand how she thinks she's going to be ready for the Olympics in 2012, much less WEG in 2 years.

It looks like her businesses are run out of her home, so if I were her, I would sell my house (or move out of my apartment in Vienna) which probably isn't cheap. Yeah, OK, so the market sucks right now for real estate, but that's beside the point. Isn't Linda Zang located north of Leesburg now? If so, Ms. Donohue could probably find someplace less expensive to live in that area and still work from home. Maybe board her horse someplace a little less expensive? Possibly get a part-time job? ;) I mean, that's what I did to pay for my riding lessons, but maybe that's just me.

I dunno...I think that most BNTs out there would be more than a little "surprised" by her audacity and possibly a little offended by her presumption that getting to Grand Prix is so easy that one can do it in 2-4 years.

Beasmom
Mar. 27, 2008, 02:45 PM
I wonder if she's read Jane Savoie's books about imagining positive outcomes and all that. Jane started out with even shakier creds, by her accounts.

This gal may be VERY serious about this method of fund-raising. Time will tell!

(Haven't visited her ebay page yet -- it takes so long to load new pages on the steam-powered computer...)

Ashby
Mar. 27, 2008, 07:37 PM
This really is pretty funny. What she was seventh in the world in was baton twirling when she was a teenager! :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Huntersmom
Mar. 27, 2008, 07:44 PM
When I first read her ebay page, I thought to myself, "how tacky".

Kathy Johnson
Mar. 28, 2008, 08:33 AM
I agree the photo shown is not good, because the horse is not using his hind legs (in this case there is a strong correlation between the hind legs and the position of his head). But he does look like a very nice, high quality horse. It may be with very good instruction, like with Linda Zang, that she could indeed get him to Grand Prix in a few years if she works really hard and nothing goes wrong. If he is schooling fourth and has piaffe and passage, it's not such a fur piece.

Getting to the Olympics requires some other indefinable element besides hard work, a great horse, very good instruction, and nothing going wrong.

As for the ebay ad, well, as they say say any advertising is good advertising. Across the country, we all now know who Susan Donahue is, so it was well worth it in terms of name recognition.

Stroupy
Mar. 28, 2008, 09:10 AM
If you check out the Q and A in the ebay section of her ad, you'll see she was ranked 7th in the world in baton twirling in 1980. I'm not very knowledgable about dressage, but is that a dressage discipline/level?:lol:

NJRider
Mar. 28, 2008, 10:34 AM
$100 bucks says Linda Zang has never heard of her.....

Piaffe~Passage
Mar. 28, 2008, 10:53 AM
Maybe all of the fellow breeders should do an auction on Ebay, since some, like me, are trying to breed for there FEI prospect, I mean I'd love to go to the olympics in 2020! :-D

JackSprats Mom
Mar. 28, 2008, 10:41 PM
I think you're all just jealous!

I mean who here can say that they were ranked 7th in the world in competitive baton twirling from the age of 11 to 17. I attended the National Championships for 10 years and was the National Champion at several events. I was one of the youngest qualified judges in the sport. I also traveled to Japan and taught twirling to Japanese trainers there to help spread the word and try to get Japan to support baton twirling as an Olympic Sport.

Com'on you know you all want to be twirling those batons :D She's already an international star! Japan would be no where in the baton twirling world if it weren't for her:yes:

Just think, today batons tomorrow an Olympic GP rider.......

pinecone
Mar. 29, 2008, 04:43 PM
I'm disgusted. I don't think she a clever marketer, I think she's delusional and/or dishonest.

I disagree with the thought that all publicity is good publicity. Now forever the name Susan Donahue can be burned in our memories as the delusional scamming baton twirling sparkly earring buying Second Level rider who wanted donations for riding lessons.

papony
Mar. 29, 2008, 08:23 PM
Pinecone -

I have to agree with you. I notice she has updated her "listing". It's still grossly misleading to someone who knows nothing about dressage. I am just dumbfounded that a second level rider who's claim to fame is scoring a 54% in the 2nd level AA division of the GAIG Finals less than 6 months ago (in which the winner scored a 68+%) on a 14 year old unmuscled horse has the nerve to take money on the pretense she has any chance to be a world class Grand Prix contender of merit in time for the WEG selection trials, which will likely begin with Devon in the fall of 2009....18 months from now!!!

It is one thing to have big dreams, it is another to solicit money for a delusion.....some might even call it fraud. it gives dressage a bad name.

vanheimrhorses
Mar. 30, 2008, 12:47 AM
OMG I went to dressage at Devon years ago as a spectator and Nicole Uphoff sat in our box and she borrowed a piece of notebook paper I had and she signed my program I am a fool I could have sold that program for $100,000 on ebay, she touched it, she might even have written notes on it or something else geez its a shame I lost it when I moved. oh she used my pen too, i would be rich by now

fiona
Mar. 30, 2008, 01:23 PM
Contemporary begging is just not classy.

sdonohue
Apr. 4, 2008, 12:59 PM
Nothing like having a little public humiliation and flogging to start your day. But, I agree with most of the postings in this forum. Yes, my ebay listing which was supposed to be fun and a "wouldn't it be lovely" came off as pretentious, delusional, and bad for the name of dressage. My only beef and it is a little one is I get tired of people knocking dressage when they don't know anything about it and I was surprised to see dressage people doing the same to baton twirling. No, it is not being a majorette in the parade or at a football game. It was a real sport. My real regret with it is that it didn't give me a good dressage seat! Speaking of which, I should have saved myself the time and public flogging and just posted my riding picture here. Would have gotten some great advice without all the humiliation! Thank you for the smack up one side of the head and down the other. I am feeling much more grounded now. Will see you at the shows with my sparkly earrings so you will know who the big twit was.

Anselcat
Apr. 4, 2008, 01:03 PM
Someone who takes a public flogging and still has a sense of humor is to be commended!

Stick around!

SillyHorse
Apr. 4, 2008, 01:05 PM
Really! You're a good sport. :yes:

Horsepower
Apr. 4, 2008, 02:33 PM
Actually, as an attorney, my reaction is that you have committed criminal fraud in your ebay postings and are likely subject to criminal prosecution. I suggest you remove these ads immediately and return any moneys you received. You have many misleading representations in your postings.

goingforbaroque
Apr. 4, 2008, 02:43 PM
Are people really going to sue her for a few $$$$???? Please!:eek: I would think that a bidder would have some responsibility in making an informed decision.

kkj
Apr. 4, 2008, 05:48 PM
I don't get why some people seem so outraged by this. I think it is funny. If I had a bunch of extra cash sitting around that listing might just compel me to send some her way (after I sent a bunch to end world hunger and save unwanted animals that is) End of the day, it is just someone trying to get as far as she can and looking for creative way to help her in that pursuit. Nothing wrong with dreaming and making an attempt to realize that dream. It is not an approach I would take, but it doesn't get a rise out of me either. She looks better than a lot of amateurs I see out there. I could pick her apart but why? She didn't ask for a critique. True I don't think she and her horse will be an international threat, but I don't see any harm in any of it. I also don't think it would hold up as fraud in any court of law. It may be a bit misleading, but out and out fraud, I hardly think so. If she was 7th in the world in baton twirling, that is a competitive sport. It would be a hell of a lot harder for me to do that than ride dressage. I just am not blessed with that sort of coordination, timing or grace. I remember this amazing baton twirler we had when I was in college. The girl was truly a site to see and I am not into dancing, cheerleading, ice skating what have you. And there are a lot of people out there who would think baton twirling is more of a sport than anything where a horse does most of the work. Some eccentric person just might want to sponser her. A person's motivation and the way they chose to spend their money can be illogical and unexpected. It is more likely that will happen than that she will win the lottery. A lot of people dream of winning the lottery, training their dream horse and taking the world by storm. So what? Let her dream and leave the poor lady alone.

Sandy M
Apr. 4, 2008, 06:12 PM
I don't get why some people seem so outraged by this. I think it is funny. If I had a bunch of extra cash sitting around that listing might just compel me to send some her way (after I sent a bunch to end world hunger and save unwanted animals that is) End of the day, it is just someone trying to get as far as she can and looking for creative way to help her in that pursuit. Nothing wrong with dreaming and making an attempt to realize that dream. It is not an approach I would take, but it doesn't get a rise out of me either. She looks better than a lot of amateurs I see out there. I could pick her apart but why? She didn't ask for a critique. True I don't think she and her horse will be an international threat, but I don't see any harm in any of it. I also don't think it would hold up as fraud in any court of law. It may be a bit misleading, but out and out fraud, I hardly think so.


Well, in that case. I have a baby (almost 4) that I bought a couple of years ago (still paying for him). He's a very fancy mover. I have dreams of high level competition, too. Why not send the money to me. I've shown through 2nd level with scores up to 64%. That would seem to match the e-bay lady's achievements, but I have a greenie, not a schoolmaster. Would you like to finance MY journey?

gloriginger
Apr. 4, 2008, 11:01 PM
Well, in that case. I have a baby (almost 4) that I bought a couple of years ago (still paying for him). He's a very fancy mover. I have dreams of high level competition, too. Why not send the money to me. I've shown through 2nd level with scores up to 64%. That would seem to match the e-bay lady's achievements, but I have a greenie, not a schoolmaster. Would you like to finance MY journey?

Yup- and I was the 10 and under North Carolina shot put record holder for three years. Now I have a mare that I'd like to show at the local level-so if anyone wants to send $ to me too that would be great. You can certainly take a picture with me if we get a ribbon, for $100k. ;)

I think the ebay post was a joke, from the response on here, sounds like she is a bit of a fun gal just playing around.

MagicRoseFarm
Apr. 5, 2008, 01:49 AM
Sue, I admire your attempt, 4 years ago I started competing recognized dressage.

As a small breeder for over 20 years I had kept only ONE of my offspring for myself, the very first, sacrificing the rest as future breeding stock or selling them for funding to continue my breeding program. In 1999 I bred a colt that I knew was extremely special. He was the 4th generation of our homebreds. In 2001 I tore out my ACL and did major other damage to my knee. I was two years healing and was told by doctors that I am over 40 , its time to change my life and restrict my riding.

The special horse turned three. I had help to start him. On the fourth ride in mid August, 18 months after my injury, I took him back and rode him myself. 45 days under saddle I won the under saddle at Dressage At Devon with him. He grew into an 18 hand stallion. I never wanted a stallion, but this horse was the best riding partner I could ever dream of, a great mover with an incredible mind, and an incredible pedigree to match. Prior to this horse I had started youngsters and sold them. My own education was severely lacking but my horsemanship was good. I worked extremely hard in lessons, and marketted him for breeding at expos to help support the lessons and competitions. We consistantly scored in the high 60's and into 70's at training and first. I finished USDF in top 25 year end. I was reserve Champion GAIG and BLM at training and first. I was 17th in the USDF Nationally at year end for Freestyle Challenge. I even did the FEI 5 year olds with him , and I did not belong competing against the professionals, but we held our own very well.

I knew I needed help, so I worked my butt off and got sponsorships. I can tell you how hard it is, ITS TOOUGH. Our future looked very promising, Beste Gold had started working toward some of the FEI movements in hand with my coach, but I was his sole rider/trainer and we were learning as we went along. We were ready to compete and win at 2nd level 3 and 4 to qualify in 06 for the championships.

After entering our first show, my horse had a breeding accident. The last collection of the year, it ended his career in 20 seconds, and maybe mine too. Beste Gold lay on the operating table most of the day at New Bolton, on the day they eithanized Barbaro. WHat a horrible day. There were complications, five different casts and massive tendon damage from them rubbing.I was devastated, but we have trudged along. He was riding sound after 9 months of rehab etc., but real work proved too difficult after more than a year on three legs.

I had done all I promised for my sponsors and they hung in there. and we showed his offspring from my little breeding program on my little farm. I busted my butt for them and they stuck with me after he was injured, as hopeful as I was for a full recovery.

With their help, Beste Gold was nationally ranked #6 in the 2007 USEF Sire of DSHB prospects. At the AGE OF 8 years old!!!!! His oldest showing offspring were three years of age, and only one barely under saddle. He and his Dam's sibling Gold Luck ( who is now in his late teens) were the only two American bred stallions in the top 10.

While I wish it was different for Beste Gold and I, I am very thankful.These sponsors did allow me great opportunity. For three years I had the priviledge of learning and competing with an incredibly kind, and talented horse that I dearly love. Their support allowed me enough faith that I COULD save his life when it was threatened.

Its been a very rough ride, and I am starting over, with one of his first offspring, the fifth generation of my little breeding program. Selfishly, at 48, I am pulling my riding life back together to go on. And I am thankful to those who believed in us the first time around, because they inspired me to push for more.

Keep fighting for your dream.

Horsepower
Apr. 5, 2008, 11:52 AM
To the poster who asked about people suing her for a few dollars: I did not say she was exposed to a CIVIL suit. I said she was exposing herself to CRIMINAL fraud. A prosecutor's office or U.S. attorney's office could go after her criminally.

sdonohue
Apr. 5, 2008, 04:23 PM
Thanks for the legal advice. I had already told the woman who bid $1 she didn't need to pay. The one other bidder has already been informed that he can have his money back if he would like.

I've removed my ad.

Thank you again.

Lambie Boat
Apr. 5, 2008, 05:56 PM
That's SUSAN DONOHUE and BIG EASY people. They'll be wrapping it up here today. Don't forget to tip your waitress and have a safe drive home

sdonohue
Apr. 5, 2008, 10:14 PM
Actually, it is just Susan. As in most things dressage, it is usually the fault of the rider, and although it would be nice to share the blame, I cannot find Big Easy complicit in this one bit. I swear he didn't touch a hoof to the keyboard :-)

SillyHorse
Apr. 6, 2008, 10:42 AM
:lol:

Sonesta
Apr. 6, 2008, 11:00 AM
I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm inclined to cut her some slack and let her off the hook as having learned the hard way about thinking things through before going forward with a plan.

She's even come forward with a nice acknowledgement of her error.

Keep riding, girl. You may get there some day - especially with a cheerful attitude towards criticism.

Melyni
Apr. 6, 2008, 08:34 PM
Actually this does make me think a bit, just exactly what was criminally fraudulent about this.

There is nothing inherently criminal about trying to raise money to send oneself to a sporting event, not matter wether you are qualified or not.
I do recall a few years ago a British ski jumper called Eddie the Eagle, he got himself declared for the Uk and got to go to the Olympics, then of course there is the famous Jamaican Bobsled team!

I am not a lawyer, but if this was a genuine attempt to raise funds by a rider, I'd say the only think that could be considered "fraudulent" would have to the qualifications claimed, inasmuch as the "7th in the World" was misleading without the qualifier of what sport it was.

Susan made no claims to be a charity nor to promise anything she could not deliver. I'd think pretty poorly of any public official who wasted public funds trying prosecute someone for this.
There are far more important things going on for public officials to worry about IMHO.

Susan if PM me I do have an idea for your cookies.
Yours

FancyFree
Apr. 6, 2008, 08:39 PM
Well, in that case. I have a baby (almost 4) that I bought a couple of years ago (still paying for him). He's a very fancy mover. I have dreams of high level competition, too. Why not send the money to me. I've shown through 2nd level with scores up to 64%. That would seem to match the e-bay lady's achievements, but I have a greenie, not a schoolmaster. Would you like to finance MY journey?

Yes mine too! I'm in a similar situation to yours. We should market together. I think we have to put FEI in there somewhere to let people know that we are 'Lympic caliber. :lol:

Sandy M
Apr. 7, 2008, 10:46 AM
Yes mine too! I'm in a similar situation to yours. We should market together. I think we have to put FEI in there somewhere to let people know that we are 'Lympic caliber. :lol:

Well, we could say that we're aiming for the FEI Young Horse competitions for 4/5 or 6 year olds! LOL (I'll be satisfied to do a decent Intro test by the end of summer - he's the poster boy for ADD).

FancyFree
Apr. 7, 2008, 11:32 AM
Well, we could say that we're aiming for the FEI Young Horse competitions for 4/5 or 6 year olds! LOL (I'll be satisfied to do a decent Intro test by the end of summer - he's the poster boy for ADD).

:lol: I sometimes think mine is Bipolar. Pas de deux for us?

Sandy M
Apr. 7, 2008, 12:40 PM
:lol: I sometimes think mine is Bipolar. Pas de deux for us?

Possibly. How well would you boy match up with an Araloosa that's pushing on to (and probably past) 16.2 at not quite 4 years old. Chestnut, blaze, two hind socks, snowflake hip blanket. ROFLOL

On a semi-serious note: Had I the talent, I do wonder if he COULD do the FEI Young Horse Tests competitively. He's really a LOVELY mover. We'll never know - I don't have the money/time/talent for that. We'll just work our way along through the regular levels. Fortunately, with regard to all the qualification brouhaha, I'm already qualified on my old horse. Not that 3rd level is in my immediate future!! Another thing pointing out the silliness of the qualification proposal: I could take bebe out and make a fool of myself at 3rd level, since I'm qualified on ANOTHER horse. *shrug*