RIP Feuertanzer

[spacely]

I saw on another board that Feuertanzer (http://www.freebreeding.com/) was euthanized over the weekend due to severe colic. I know there are quite a few over here who have kids of his. RIP.:(

[Cinnybren]

My sincerest condolences to his connections. Godspeed Feuertanzer.

[Hi Jump]

This is very sad news about Feurtanzer , and disturbing to me how many stallions eventually succumb to colic. I think despite not ever having had a colic, it is one of my biggest fears for my stallions.

My condolences to those involved with Feurtanzer,
Lisa , Synergy Sporthorses

[misita]

OMG!! Godspeed Feuertanzer.:(

[cccsporthorses]

I know its so sad they refunded my money this weekend, I am really sorry,

[Fairview Horse Center]

Very sorry to hear this. My condolences to Jennifer and his owners. He was a lovely boy.

[alliekat]

How very sad.

[Maddie]

Oh no, this is so heartbreaking to hear. We've had 3 stunning foals from this stallion and had planned to use him again in the future. All of our foals were uniform and consistently showed their sires influence. My sincere condolenses to his owner and breeder. What a loss to the sporthorse breeding community. If anyone has a purebred Trak filly of his they would like to give away let me know....

[buschkn]

Very sorry to hear of this. He was a gorgeous horse and it sounded like people were always happy with his babies. Poor handsome boy. Hugs to his humans who are grieving his loss. :(

[Horsecrazy27]

OH MY GOSH!! How sad. So sorry to hear. RIP boy.

[VirginiaBred]

:( May I say once again how much I HATE colic?!!!!!!!!!

[Oakstable]

How sad. He was fairly young.

[MagicRoseFarm]

very sorry to hear this news,he was a very lovely stallion.

[Ladybug Hill]

I have always had a soft spot for this stallion. I hope he didn't suffer too much and was with the folks who love him.

[JB]

Oh NO!! It is always so sad to hear of a nice stallion passing, horrible to hear when it's from something other than in their sleep :( I had fantasies of breeding to him one day :(

[Tiempo]

How sad. My condolances to his owners :cry:

[mzm farm]

So sad to hear the news!:cry:
He was a very nice stallion, young and with so many good qualities.
I got a beautiful colt by him, sadly it was not a filly. Colt is for sale, I was really hoping for a keeper filly out of a very special mare, perfect lines to cross with my stallion. Guess I won't get another chance at that combo.

My sincere condolences to his humans. How traumatic and unexpected, the worst :(

[mbj]

I HATE colic, and am so sorry for the stallion and his people who loved him. So sad.

[Dressage-ryder]

How sad :( My thoughts are with his owners...

[RheinlandPfalzSaar]

How horrible, he was a gorgeous stallion. RIP

[nsm]

That is so very sad, RIP beautiful guy. My deepest condolences to his owners-

Nancy

[Bugs-n-Frodo]

I hate colic too! How awful! My sincerest condolences to both is owner now and his prior owner, Jennifer, I am sure she is upset as well. What a loss, he was a lovely boy. We have lost so many great Trakehner stallions in the past 3-6 months, I just can't believe it.

I am so sorry to Feuer's family! :cry: You are in my thoughts. RIP Feuer! You will be missed greatly!:sadsmile:

[EquineLVR]

I too find it extremely disturbing at how many stallions die of colic - I wonder why that is?

God Speed Feuertanzer and green pastures..

[jreventer]

Very sorry to everyone involved with Feuer.

I have a lovely gelding by him and have recommended Feuer to many mare owners based on my gelding. What a shame...

[Edgar]

That explains why Cindy never came to pickup her shipping containers over the week-end and I could not get a hold of them. Bless their soul! I had just left a message about what happened with that, now I feel very bad. RIP Feuer.
He had very good semen and I froze and stored some last year so they can still breed a few mares if they choose to. Gosh that is sad.

[dbaygirl]

I too find it extremely disturbing at how many stallions die of colic - I wonder why that is?

God Speed Feuertanzer and green pastures..


Okay, this was a very nice stallion and it is shocking to me that yet another stallion has died from colic...the second one this week according to this board, ie Graf Genius. Is anyone/any university doing any studies to determine why colic seems to be the number one killer of stallions in particular? Personally, I have my own opinions. Colic is caused by a number of things, the biggest being confinement and stress. Many stallions live in isolation AND confinement. It is NOT FAIR. If people cannot give a stallion a decent social setting with room to move, don't have one. Sorry, but it's just time to say something in a public format about the way stallions are kept, treated and fed. Please don't flame me for saying this....I do realize not ALL stallions are kept inappropriately and that not all stallions die from colic. I think that if you don't have space for a stallion, don't board him out somewhere in some fancy jailhouse that confines him behind bars all day long with often very little turnout and the turnout is usually just a glorified outdoor stall without a roof on it. I have no idea what Feuertanzer's situation was > I'm referring to the large numbers of stallions lost to this condition. Isn't it time we start investigating the cause, considering the mounting numbers of deaths? I would be interested to know what the common lifespan of a stallion is. A stallion is a horse and I don't see why his life should be shorter than everyone else's.

RIP Feuertanzer. I don't breed Trakehners, but I would have bred to this one. He was gorgeous and I'm upset that he had to die too soon. My condolences to his owners.

[pintopiaffe]

Oh... :cry: Many thoughts and prayers to his owners, past & current...

His foals are amazing.

I've always appreciated the way he was made available too. I personally think it is quite a loss to those who always dreamed of owning a Trakehner--and he was the stallion to make it possible for them.

[pintopiaffe]

Dbay... colic is the number one killer of HORSES, period. We hear more about the stallions, because there is more press about them to begin with, and someone posts about it... you just don't hear about my beautiful, 8yo lifetime dream fulfilling mare who twisted her gut leaving her orphan filly with me...

To make blanket statements about stallions dying of colic because of turnout or lack thereof is a rather large leap to conclusion... :no:

[Kenike]

oh wow :no:
My condolences to his people...and another who absolutely HATES colic!

[spacely]

To make blanket statements about stallions dying of colic because of turnout or lack thereof is a rather large leap to conclusion...

Exactly. If you feel the need to discuss it, start a new thread.

My condolences to all connected with him. He carried some of my favorite Trakehner lines. What a loss. I HATE colic.

[Dazednconfused]

Okay, this was a very nice stallion and it is shocking to me that yet another stallion has died from colic...the second one this week according to this board, ie Graf Genius. Is anyone/any university doing any studies to determine why colic seems to be the number one killer of stallions in particular? Personally, I have my own opinions. Colic is caused by a number of things, the biggest being confinement and stress. Many stallions live in isolation AND confinement. It is NOT FAIR. If people cannot give a stallion a decent social setting with room to move, don't have one. Sorry, but it's just time to say something in a public format about the way stallions are kept, treated and fed. Please don't flame me for saying this....I do realize not ALL stallions are kept inappropriately and that not all stallions die from colic. I think that if you don't have space for a stallion, don't board him out somewhere in some fancy jailhouse that confines him behind bars all day long with often very little turnout and the turnout is usually just a glorified outdoor stall without a roof on it. I have no idea what Feuertanzer's situation was > I'm referring to the large numbers of stallions lost to this condition. Isn't it time we start investigating the cause, considering the mounting numbers of deaths? I would be interested to know what the common lifespan of a stallion is. A stallion is a horse and I don't see why his life should be shorter than everyone else's.

RIP Feuertanzer. I don't breed Trakehners, but I would have bred to this one. He was gorgeous and I'm upset that he had to die too soon. My condolences to his owners.

I don't believe this is the appropriate time or place to be slamming how other people keep their stallions, especially since for all you know, he could have had 24/7 turnout. It only serves to anger people - maybe if you have such an issue with how people keep their stallions you should start your own thread on it - not derail one that is full of condolences and best wishes for his owners :no:

[dbaygirl]

Dbay... colic is the number one killer of HORSES, period. We hear more about the stallions, because there is more press about them to begin with, and someone posts about it... you just don't hear about my beautiful, 8yo lifetime dream fulfilling mare who twisted her gut leaving her orphan filly with me...

To make blanket statements about stallions dying of colic because of turnout or lack thereof is a rather large leap to conclusion... :no:

Lighten up, people. Like I said, don't flame me. It's an OBSERVATION, not a blanket statement or a non factual leap to conclusion (but thanks for your blind insinuation that my OPINION and OBSERVATION merit public correction in the middle of a loved stallion's RIP thread). I wrote the above out of concern for the way so many stallions are dying lately. You're right. It could be a topic for a new thread. But this one is the one that bothered me the most because I've followed the free breeding threads on him, loved his type and felt like I knew him better than some of the others. These forums are a seeing eye for those of us who live far away from the horses spoken of here. I have a right to be upset that this horse died of colic and to express myself as everyone else has. I do not feel the need to dissect your posts and decide whether they are appropriate or not. So, once again, I repeat that there is a need for research on why stallions in particular die so often from colic.

I apologize to the other posters for this unsolicited interruption to your expressions of sympathy and grief for the loss of this beautiful stallion.

[dbaygirl]

I don't believe this is the appropriate time or place to be slamming how other people keep their stallions, especially since for all you know, he could have had 24/7 turnout. It only serves to anger people - maybe if you have such an issue with how people keep their stallions you should start your own thread on it - not derail one that is full of condolences and best wishes for his owners :no:

"serves to anger people"? Please! Does it anger you that companies research to make people's lives better? to make horses' lives better? It is YOU who are derailing this thread. If you kept your comments to the issue at hand, namely: A STALLION HAS DIED FROM COLIC, there would be no need to correct YOU.

If you stop hammering the keyboard there and focused on the true content of my post, you would have possibly noticed that I referred to stallions in general and specifically noted that I was NOT referring to this stallion's whatsover as I do not know it. So, like you have suggested to me, perhaps you should get your facts straight.

Further, it's not nice to "slam" people for their actions, unless they do it on purpose. Many do it in ignorance.

I can't help but notice that you do suit your forum handle. I'm sorry, but perhaps I should not have even responded if you are that dazed and confused. :-) (Would it be possible to order a copy of your booklet entitled "Forum Etiquette" as it appears I am ignorant in that regard.)

[cheekyhorse]

That is so sad, my thoughts are with his people. He was a beautiful stallion.

[elly]

My thoughts are with Jennifer and the rest of Feuertanz's family - my own FEI gelding just returned from UGA, after being treated for a severe case of colic. The fear of losing him still sits like a stone on my heart and I am so grateful, that he was able to come back home to us, safe and sound.

Godspeed Feuertanz

[camohn]

Dbay... colic is the number one killer of HORSES, period. We hear more about the stallions, because there is more press about them to begin with, and someone posts about it... you just don't hear about my beautiful, 8yo lifetime dream fulfilling mare who twisted her gut leaving her orphan filly with me...

To make blanket statements about stallions dying of colic because of turnout or lack thereof is a rather large leap to conclusion... :no:

SO sorry from this end. While we love all our horses I think it IS harder to lose a stallion because they had to have been extra special to someone to have kept intact from the beginning.

I do agree with the above post though. The only one we lost to colic was also mare (5 YO) from a post foaling twist colic.

[Hocus Focus]

My sincerest condolences to all involved. Very sad. I have admired his type and have seen and photographed a few of his stunning foals. I have also found the free breeding program so kindly offered to be a departure from the norm and a true reflection of an owner's great love of their horse. His legacy lives on. I salute all involved in this sad hour for a hugely generous and selfless contribution to sporthorse breeding. May your good friend rest in peace.

[okggo]

I just saw this, how terribly sad. I've always had such a fond appreciation of Feuer and the beautiful babies he produces. I remember seeing a palomino Feuer/Draft/paint one time and met the dam. Feuer truly over-hauled the baby with his correctness and grandeur.

My condolences to the owners, and at least they can be thankful that through their wonderful service and fees, he was able to stamp so many babies for the future.

[TKR]

Sincere condolences in this terrible tragedy. He was extremely lovely and had so much to contribute as a breeding stallion. I'm glad he has many lovely babies to carry his name.
PennyG

[yellow rose]

That is so sad. I just bought a coming 2 year old Feuertazner filly and she is lovely. Too many good horses have died this week it seems :(

[La Gringa]

This is a shock and very sad. I thought he was a beautiful Stallion.

My condolences..

:(

[Wayside]

So sorry to hear of this. Everyone close to him has my sympathy.

I have a yearling filly by Feuertanzer, and couldn't be happier with her. Every time the farrier comes out he tells me I should breed my mare back to Feuer again, he likes that filly so much. Had I been breeing her instead of riding her, I wouldn't have hesitiated to repeat that cross.

[Sonesta]

{{{{{{{{{{{HUGS}}}}}}}}}}} to the Feur family. We will truly be missed.

[incahoots]

There is a greater risk of colic in horses that are confined and kept away from the herd. That goes for horses at the upper levels of sport as well. Those that are kept in stalls, little turnout and no interaction with other horses and frequently shipped colic more than those kept in a more natural setting. However, have you read the threads lately on the two yearlings running into each other and breaking their necks? Or the frequent pasture injuries? I have never had a horse colic (knock on wood) they are kept in small groups in large turnouts or pasture but I have had injuries and alpha horse problems. Difficult decisions how best to manage horses. They are very, very fragile creatures. Feurt left a great legacy....many sons and daughters who will go on to bring great happiness to their owners....RIP

[lilypondlane]

How heartbreaking! My condolences to his family and all who knew him. What phenomonal bloodlines he had and so young. A great loss to the Trakehner world.

[Reiter]

OMG! I so hoped I misread the title and this is all a mistake! :(
My deepest condolences to Feuertanzer's family. What a great loss to the breeding community! His legacy will live on in his foals! RIP Feuertanzer!

[Home Again Farm]

Sincere condolences to his owners. :cry:

[LongLeaf]

Oh no! My most sincere condolences to his current and previous owners. He was an amazing boy who passed so much of himself to his babies. My 2006 gelding is just fabulous, and unfortunately sold so I was hoping to breed one more Feuer baby this year. What a heartbreak.

[Holly Jeanne]

What a very sad loss to his owners, to Jennifer, and to those who admired this beautiful boy. I'm so sorry!

[mirrabook]

Sincere condolences to Feuertanzer's owner and family. Such a tragic loss.

[Dawn J-L]

What a terrible loss. My condolences to those who knew and loved him.

[M.K.Smith]

My condolences. He was one of my favorite warmblood stallions and produced many lovely foals. Colic took the life of Winston's sire earlier this year. In 1992, I lost my 1st horse to colic. I hate colic. My condolences- RIP Feuertanzer

[SportNCurls]

Add me to the list of those thrilled with his babies...I was hoping to do a repeat breeding. Feuertanzer is the one horse that interested me in adding trakehner blood to our breeding program. I've been looking at others, but kept coming back to HIM... the search continues

:(


My sincerest condolences to his family. I am so sorry to hear of his passing. more so then can be expressed in this little box.
*hugs*

[grayfox]

My condolences to his people. He was a lovely stallion.

[Utah]

Such a shock today. My condolences and sincere wishes for peacefulness to his family.
I didn't rebreed for one reason or another last year, and had been thinking of it for this year. Unfortunately, that decision is now made. Fortunately, I have a flaming redhead daughter of his, my first and so far only foal...was supposed to have been for sale but quickly became not for sale.
Thanks for my pretty, sassy little girl, Feuer.

[Freebird!]

You know, when my horse broke his leg in a freak paddock accident, I don't think I would have liked to come on COTH, to read posts about the causes of leg breaks, etc.

Anyway, huge condolences to family - he was gorgeous.

[Nootka]

OH my I wish it wasnt so:cry: I have rec many mare owners to use him.

[dressagejudy]

I have one of Feuer's foals. He is a coming 4 year old and I wouldn't hesitate to buy another one. This comes as a shock to me. I'm so sorry for all those who knew and loved him.
Judy Gargano

[Fred]

I am so very sorry for the loss of this beautiful horse. My most heartfelt condolences to all who loved him.

[Astraled]

:cry:

Condolences to Mt Pleasant Stallion Station and to his previous owner, Jennifer. It was inspiring to read how much they believed in him.

[PalominoMorgan]

Condolances to all who loved this great stallion. I seriously considered him for my mare too. I didn't get around to breeding her to anyone, but he would have been a lovely stallion for a sporty morgan mare. *sigh* Hugs to all who miss him.

[RiddleMeThis]

First and foremost I wanted to say I am extremely sorry for the SO of this amazing stallion. He truely was amazing.



"serves to anger people"? Please! Does it anger you that companies research to make people's lives better? to make horses' lives better? It is YOU who are derailing this thread. If you kept your comments to the issue at hand, namely: A STALLION HAS DIED FROM COLIC, there would be no need to correct YOU. No its you who derailed this thred. The thred is not abut the cause of the death it is about the horse. This is not the time or place to be discussing causes of colic. It is completely disrespectful to put down a SO for keeping practices that you dont even know they do RIGHT AFTER their stallion dies. I mean honestly come on now people.

If you stop hammering the keyboard there and focused on the true content of my post, you would have possibly noticed that I referred to stallions in general and specifically noted that I was NOT referring to this stallion's whatsover as I do not know it. So, like you have suggested to me, perhaps you should get your facts straight. This thread is about a SPECIFIC stallion. Not a random what cauases stallions to die or what causes colic

Further, it's not nice to "slam" people for their actions, unless they do it on purpose. Many do it in ignorance. Yours was most definately purposeful

I can't help but notice that you do suit your forum handle. I'm sorry, but perhaps I should not have even responded if you are that dazed and confused. :-) (Would it be possible to order a copy of your booklet entitled "Forum Etiquette" as it appears I am ignorant in that regard.)Yes you are very ignorant in that regard.

[Draygonfyne]

My condolences as well...what a beautiful stallion.

[jlmckinley]

My condolences to Feuer's owners and all that loved him. He is one amazing and beautiful stallion.

We have a 2 y.o. gelding by Feuertanzer that resembles him very closely. Feuer will indeed live on in the legacy of his lovely offspring.

[poniesforlife]

Oh my gosh that is soooo sad! He was special and how his owners offered him for free breeding was amazing! GOD BLESS him and his owners!

[shawneeAcres]

First my SINCERE condolances on the owners loss, I too had considered breeding to him, he was so gorgeous.

Second, as soon as I saw this thread and the one on Graf Genius, I knew SOME unfeeling poster would have to jump in and start a trainwreck on stallions and colic!!! I have a stallion, he has never coliced. Have other horses who have. They all get basically the same care, stallion is out right now 24/7 and when competing out for at least 5 - 10 hours. Other horses as well, only difference is he does live "alone" but able to see both his two year old filles just across the drive and broodmares in the pasture about 100 yards from him. I see no correlation between incidence of colic and stallions, or how they are managed. Colic just "is" when you have horses, most vets will tell you that in a large majority of cases you simply cannot find a definitive cause. So why can't the poster who started this c**p leave well enough alone!

[DownYonder]

FWIW, stallions are at higher risk for colic because of the possibility of testicular hernia – a risk factor that mares and geldings do not have. Also, I heard from a UGA vet many years ago that testicular hernias are seen most frequently in dressage stallions and Tennessee Walker stallions because of the way these stallions are expected to use their hindquarters – i.e., very active hindlegs with “deep” striding that places a fair amount of strain on the underbelly/groin. I don’t know if that is what caused Fuertanzer’s colic – probably not, since I believe he was retired from riding – but stallions don’t have to be in work to suffer from testicular hernia or related colics.

At any rate, I am very sorry to hear of Fuertanzer’s passing. He looked like a beautiful stallion and was certainly loved by many. My sincere condolences to his people.