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cuatx67
Mar. 15, 2008, 05:58 AM
I have an imported Holsteiner mare with german papers that I've never presented to any registry here. I will be breeding her for the 1st time this year and the stallion I'm interested in is approved both AHHA and ISR/Old (as well as a few others). Do any of you have any experience or preference between those two registries? I'm trying to decide which one I should have her inspected by.
Thanks for any advice/insight.

Edgewood
Mar. 15, 2008, 07:08 AM
There is a topic on AHHA on www.uncouthbb.com/forum (http://www.uncouthbb.com/forum) under the "breeders chat" subgroup.

You might want to read it if you don't get many responses. I don't know the AHHA so I cannot comment.

DownYonder
Mar. 15, 2008, 07:36 AM
Your mare would also be eligible for MMB approval with Oldenburg (GOV), and the stallion may be also. You might want to check and see if he is on the Oldenburg stallion roster - http://www.oldenburghorse.com/Oldbrg-Stallions.htm. Even if he is NOT on their roster, he may be eligible for a breeding allowance if he meets certain criteria. You can contact the office for more info or PM me.

talloaks
Mar. 15, 2008, 09:01 AM
I've been with many registeries over the years and still am, but prefer to register my foals with the ISR/OLDNA since they are a very receptive organizaton, have many inspection site, brand the foals, score the foals at the inspection at give ribbons one throught three depending on the number of foals present, and have year end awards. I've been with them since 1988 and have been very pleased. The AHHA is one registry I have not been a member of so can't say one way or the other. But a definite yes for ISR/OLDNA.:)

ponygirl
Mar. 15, 2008, 09:26 AM
You know, once upon a time I would of said go AHHA with the mare... You could also look at Zangersheide. Quite a few folks I know have taken mares Zangersheide. GOV is another as is RPSI and ISR. Good luck!

Reiter
Mar. 15, 2008, 09:54 AM
I would go with AHHA not because I prefer the registry over ISR/Old but because that is what her (and the stallions) bloodlines are. The only reason I would go with another registry is if there are no AHHA inspections in your area!

Oakstable
Mar. 15, 2008, 11:40 AM
You need to look at the registeries' requirements for foal papers. If you are required to take the mare and foal to an inspection, make sure there are likely sites in your area.

I'd start with the AHHA. You have other options as others have mentioned.

Oakstable
Mar. 15, 2008, 12:52 PM
Whoa. OP, keep doing research on the AHHA. I wasn't aware of so many organizational problems until I read a thread in another forum.

cuatx67
Mar. 15, 2008, 01:11 PM
Thanks for the responses.
I would be breeding the foal for myself. But, hypothetically, if I did end up needing to sell the horse sometime down the line, do you think one registry is preferable over the other? Does one have a reputation for higher standards? If you were horse shopping would the registry make a difference or do you just look at the horse?

Fairview Horse Center
Mar. 15, 2008, 01:29 PM
the stallion I'm interested in is approved both AHHA and ISR/Old (as well as a few others

Dutch! ;)

f4leggin
Mar. 15, 2008, 01:29 PM
I have been with the AHHA for 9 years - all my horses are inspected and registered with them. It is a small oraganization - there is good and bad with that - the quality of AHHA horses remains high - in fact most of the fighting recently has been because some people want to lower standards, and others want just the opposite - the folks who want higher standards are prevailing.

Hope this helps.

Jill

incahoots
Mar. 15, 2008, 01:31 PM
Asking here which registry is better is dangerous. I think it's whatever registry is better for you. It is expensive to have your mare and foal inspected (around 500 for everything, most registries) so you want to choose a site within close proximity to keep your costs under control. I't difficult to haul the mare and foal a long distance and always worries me a little about stressing the babe. I don't believe your choice in registry will affect saleability, however I do believe having the foal registered will. Old/ISR has more sites, AHHA and GOV have a bit more stringent requirements for mares in my experience and RPSI may be the easiest to get stallions through. These are all just my experiences. Others have different opinions and you'll have better luck changing peoples mind on their political affiliation than on what registry is the best.

2foals
Mar. 15, 2008, 03:46 PM
I use both registries and have overall been happy with both, possibly a little happier with the AHHA. If I were in your shoes, I would probably go with the AHHA, simply because as another poster pointed out, that is the most representative of your mare's bloodlines. However, if in the future you decide to breed her to a stallion of another warmblood breed, you could always use the Old NA.

f4leggin
Mar. 16, 2008, 10:40 PM
To the OP - perhaps your mare was inspected in Germany by the Hol Verband? I have imported a few mares, didn't check before hand, and was pleased to see they had already been inspected. If she was inspected by the HOL verband - she will not need to be re-inspected. Foals inspections are not required by the AHHA for registration. Her inspection info will be on her pink papers, or you can check with the AHHA for assistance.

Jill

cuatx67
Mar. 17, 2008, 06:02 AM
f4leggin - I had just assumed she was not presented in Germany b/c she was young when imported. I'm looking at her pink papers and don't see anything noted. Would it be in the section on the back that is blank except for "Vermerke des Verbandes der Zuchter des Holsteiner Pferdes" or Sonstige Vermerke"?

FMulder
Mar. 17, 2008, 02:36 PM
.................or you could register your mare and foal with Zangersheide.

http://www.zangersheide.com

cuatx67
Mar. 17, 2008, 06:38 PM
Is Zangersheide just for jumpers?

risingstarfarm
Mar. 17, 2008, 08:42 PM
If you are looking for additional options, I thought you should know that your mare is eligible for the MMB of the Belgian Warmblood Breeding Association. While the BWP is primarily a jumping registry, there are many exceptional dressage horses and dressage stallions in the registry as well. The stallion you are using should be recognized, if he is licensed with multiple registries.

I urge you to contact any of the registries that interest you for the most complete information!

FMulder
Mar. 18, 2008, 02:19 PM
Zangersheide is only about jumping, and only about performance.

tri
Mar. 18, 2008, 06:41 PM
I've posted about the stuff going on with the AHHA....and other registries..... for quite some time now (years). It is nothing new and the stuff pulled by this BOD, the last BOD and the folks that came before is pretty par for the course.