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europa
Mar. 13, 2008, 10:24 AM
Anyone near me....within a couple hours drive to break my 3 year old? Suggestions.
Tamara in TN
Mar. 13, 2008, 04:52 PM
Anyone near me....within a couple hours drive to break my 3 year old? Suggestions.
what did you have in mind...drop off,drive in,full service ??? :)
jcotton
Mar. 14, 2008, 09:33 AM
What have you done with this 3 yr old? Saddled and/or bridled, ground driven, longed yet? Weight in the stirrups or leaned over his back? Is this horse comfortable with a human above his ears --ponyied around, have the saddle jossled(wiggled around) while being ponyied? Does this horse understand and respond to voice commands, "whoa" being very important.
These things will help your breaking trainer in making the transition to actually riding your youngster.
europa
Mar. 14, 2008, 11:24 AM
I would prefer someone with WB experience since they are alittle DIFFERENT shall we say. She loads and trailers like a champ and has had a bridle on her. I intend to work with her this summer then get her backed in late summer. I will sack her out and start hosing and clipping her again....in case she has forgotten. I don't want her trained just started basically.
eqsiu
Mar. 14, 2008, 11:30 AM
Would Lexington, KY be too far away? The girl who used to break my mom's Hanoverian/TB cross babies is now training at a barn there. She is excellent and has experience with warmblood temperaments.
europa
Mar. 14, 2008, 11:38 AM
could maybe do Lexington....send the info
Fairview Horse Center
Mar. 14, 2008, 11:57 AM
My starter does a super job, but this may be too far. You can see video clips of one she has started after less than 30 days under saddle. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-433733211610036512 Look for others of Denali from my list. She is about 10 miles away from my farm, in Centreville.
sporthorsefilly
Mar. 14, 2008, 01:31 PM
Fairview who does your starting? I need to get the 4 year old Arab in work. He is backed and good, but needs some mileage. I can only do so much and with the 5 year old and the 2 year old and the baby on the way...well I could use some help :) :)
europa
Mar. 14, 2008, 02:24 PM
WHHHAAAAAA why is everybody good up in your neck of the woods Darlyn?
I might actually just do it myself....heaven forbid. I am getting too old for this. HA HA
Oakstable
Mar. 14, 2008, 02:29 PM
How is starting a WB different from a TB?
eqsiu
Mar. 14, 2008, 03:12 PM
How is starting a WB different from a TB?
I've found a "duh" factor with warmbloods. They sort of look at you like "what on earth are you doing up there?" and then proceed with their normal activities. They seem to be less reactive, i.e. when you get on a horse with a hotter temperament, the first time you put your leg on they almost shoot out from under you. More flight response perhaps? Warmbloods kind of look confused and do nothing (or even tense up and freeze) until they figure out what you want. Once the initial stuff is over, they are very similar- train like any other horse. It's the "first times" that are different. I've seen several people immediately bring out the whip and spurs on babies, when all they need to do is figure out how the get the horse to understand.
Oakstable
Mar. 14, 2008, 04:17 PM
I have a WB/TB mare who had been backed by a jockey. The jockey rode in an exercise saddle with knees up to the shoulder of the horse. When someone got on her in a dressage saddle, with longer stirrups, the rider got bucked off when he put a leg on her. Any help on what we should do now? Lots of ground work has been done, and she is fine with the rider sitting quietly in the saddle.
Tamara in TN
Mar. 14, 2008, 09:02 PM
When someone got on her in a dressage saddle, with longer stirrups, the rider got bucked off when he put a leg on her. Any help on what we should do now? Lots of ground work has been done, and she is fine with the rider sitting quietly in the saddle.
sometimes here (in the old days) the solution was a dead steady leg on a heavy fendered western saddle (gaspI know :))...the shock that normally caused the bucking tirade was what the horse thought was a sudden application of a leg that was not there before...not so much "the leg" itself
the heavy stirrup fender of our roping saddles were hooked together underneath so that they were not unlike your english surcingle....the movement was stiffened and limited but not stationary,until it was not problematic...then a rider with no small amount of courage (as it takes courage to sit still and not "go fetal) mounted up and they went along with the companion horse....
as long as the rider was careful and steady the problem was normally solved...
Oakstable
Mar. 14, 2008, 09:41 PM
Thanks Tamara. That makes sense.
So she should go to a Western trainer to get her through this fear of the leg?
I used to use a cowboy but he is restricting his business to reiners.
Tamara in TN
Mar. 14, 2008, 10:25 PM
Thanks Tamara. That makes sense.
So she should go to a Western trainer to get her through this fear of the leg?
I used to use a cowboy but he is restricting his business to reiners.
I am partial to the western trainers....of course...but a good english feller should be able to manage something so basic...I'd avoid the "ground work solves all" and any "lunge them to death whilst trussed up like a turkey" types in either division :winkgrin:
it is a simple problem normally....and they can all do it so, over reacting to a leg is not line bred into any one breed:lol:
Fairview Horse Center
Mar. 14, 2008, 10:35 PM
The Warmbloods really need to get forward, and stay "in front of the leg", although to begin with, they don't understand leg, and it is more of a whip tap to get them forward, while showing them what a leg means. They already know what a whip tap means from the longeing.
We do longe them a time or 2 with stirrups down dangling to let them feel something bumping and moving there.
My starter is the Event rider Shannon O'Roark. 703.830.0969 www.cedarbrookfarm.com (http://www.cedarbrookfarm.com) (Her website is just started) She only takes on one horse at a time for training, as she has little kids at home, and a husband that does not want to spend too much time watching them when he gets home from work.
win
Mar. 20, 2008, 11:41 PM
Hello!!!
Beth Ravinsky-Repass...
IS still breaking and training!!!!
Four Winds Farm, Bristol Virginia
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