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goodpony
Mar. 10, 2008, 12:59 PM
Wow! I just saw where Carol at superior equine sires has the living Legend: Dexter Leam Pondi in Stock--you just cannot have too much Carna Bobby!....

http://www.dailymotion.com/related/2656580/video/xlhrf_dexter-leam-pondi_animals

Pony Jumping Machine!

GreyDun
Mar. 10, 2008, 01:40 PM
LOVE this guy... does anyone know anything about his foals? I don't mind "hot," if I'm keeping it for myself (which is the plan).

I'd probably breed my Premium purebred mare to him - you can see pics of her on my Chronicle of My Horse page: http://www.chronicleofmyhorse.com/profile/EmilyDaily - scroll down to see her conformation pics.

If anyone has any comments on this guy, I'd love to hear them!:D

BravAddict
Mar. 10, 2008, 02:05 PM
Nothing more constructive than: I love him!

grayarabpony
Mar. 10, 2008, 02:36 PM
Dexter Leam Pondi has a ton of offspring on the ground, doing well at shows too.

This is a coming 4-year-old stallion son in France:http://dailymotion.alice.it/violineii/video/x19pkl_quitus-pony_animals

His website http://www.elevage.du.luot.free.fr/quitus.html has information about his sire as well.

aude
Mar. 10, 2008, 04:08 PM
Sandrine (élevage du Luot) sold Quitus a little under a year ago to élevage Tartifume, I'm sure you'll find a website if you google it.
His offspring tend to be a bit complicated, and he tends to sire small ponies even though he is very tall (around 1.51m), over here in France he has sired a certain number of C size ponies (that is under 1.41m). Practically all his offspring have the same expression, you can recognize them immediately.

goodpony
Mar. 10, 2008, 05:52 PM
I've been told pretty much the same with respect to Dexter's offspring being more sensitive and athletic than some other lines...but might be worth the gamble---such a beautiful athletic stallion :)

aude
Mar. 10, 2008, 06:12 PM
I find his offsrping aren't very "chic" so I would try to use a pretty refined mare
He has another good stallion son, Ice and Fire d'Albran, he's in Denmark now (lots of links if you google him)

goodpony
Mar. 10, 2008, 06:14 PM
LOL you dont have to sell me on Dexter or Ice and Fire (both are lovely..and I'd love to use either one)...I have two Connemara stallions who suit me just fine! I think EZ said our older stallion was going to be on your nat'l assoc. website or magazine or something? She is a VERY COOL photographer! And I just had the nicest request for a photo of our younger stallion to be used in teaching a class on conformation.

Sassenach
Mar. 10, 2008, 07:01 PM
Great news :yes: I'd love to breed my mares to him. He's a non-dilute too.

erinwillow
Mar. 10, 2008, 07:33 PM
yay! what a great opportunity for the American breeders of Connemara ponies!

Aude, is he still riding with the younger woman from France? Ca serait *cool* quoi! ;)

erinwillow
Mar. 10, 2008, 07:34 PM
I find his offsrping aren't very "chic" so I would try to use a pretty refined mare
He has another good stallion son, Ice and Fire d'Albran, he's in Denmark now (lots of links if you google him)


Qu'est ce que ca veut dire, "chic" en ce sens la??

Sassenach
Mar. 10, 2008, 07:57 PM
I find his offsrping aren't very "chic" so I would try to use a pretty refined mare
He has another good stallion son, Ice and Fire d'Albran, he's in Denmark now (lots of links if you google him)

Ice and Fire D'Albran's granddam Westside Little Madam is half-sister to my stallion's granddam Westside Cassandra (same mother). I'd love to breed one of our Quietman fillies to Dexter. The one filly we have our orphan Windy Isles Quiet Lady has a lot of jump and performance blood in her and I think she'd be an interesting cross with Dexter (something to ponder for the future...)

tempichange
Mar. 10, 2008, 08:22 PM
I know it's rather OT, but... what was the music on the first vid?

erinwillow
Mar. 10, 2008, 09:23 PM
I know it's rather OT, but... what was the music on the first vid?Isn't it the coolest!! This video,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXrKG7qjQc8 is the absolute BEST!! A young French girl is his rider. . I think the music is Lincoln Park. . it *so* fits him :winkgrin:

aude
Mar. 11, 2008, 06:26 AM
Qu'est ce que ca veut dire, "chic" en ce sens la??

I find his offspring have a very pony like head. NOT very refined.
He's currently still recovering from his injury during 2007 European CHampionships, I don't know if he'll be jumping any time soon

Sassenach
Mar. 11, 2008, 07:22 AM
I find his offspring have a very pony like head. NOT very refined.
He's currently still recovering from his injury during 2007 European CHampionships, I don't know if he'll be jumping any time soon

:( Hope he recovers.

I much perfer a pony head over a more horsey one so him passing on an extremely pony head is definitely not an issue with me. :)

erinwillow
Mar. 11, 2008, 09:31 AM
I find his offspring have a very pony like head. NOT very refined.
He's currently still recovering from his injury during 2007 European CHampionships, I don't know if he'll be jumping any time soon

merci, je voix ce que vous voulez dire. . .c'est vrai, "trop" poney ne me suggere pas de la qualite mais une tete "trop" de cheval ne me plait pas beaucoup non plus :winkgrin: moi, J'aime les gros yeux ronds avec de la qualite. . . (thanks for putting up with my french. . . )

EZ
Mar. 11, 2008, 10:29 AM
I think EZ said our older stallion was going to be on your nat'l assoc. website or magazine or something?

Unfortunately, not anymore!!! I'm bummed. They put the last french supreme champion instead.
Congrats for Jack Jack. I saw the pictures on the list, he looks great! How is he under saddle?

It is not decided yet if Dexter will stay in France for his retirement of if he'll go back to Italy for a last season with his italian rider; Filippo. I'm sure if he recovers soon enough we'll see him back in the show ring next year.

I'm thrilled that Dexter is finally available in the US and I'm eager to see his american offspring.

Some of the best ponies Dexter produced (connemara or not). Google them, you'll find pictures of them: Magic Leam Pondi, Kiboutz de Kermoal, Je suis un pondi, Jobic de Coatreal, Idefix du Menhir, Iena de l'Aulne, Illico Roscoat, Indienne des Genets, Ix de l'Aulne, Ice and Fire d'Albran and so much more. But these ones might give you an idea of what he produces.

goodpony
Mar. 11, 2008, 11:52 AM
Hi EZ, Thats ok....French National Champion seems like a very good choice to me :).

And I very much hope that Dexter is used well here in the US. I would love to use him but with two young pony stallions who are just getting started--ya know!

Jack Jack was super! He was very good about steering and stopping and moving off the leg. I think he is going to be a super performer (and a super jumper) given time and miles. WE really like him! Though I have to say Eclipse must have been very jealous as he was absolutely awesome when I had him out on Monday. He really is the most fun pony to ride!

EZ
Mar. 14, 2008, 11:02 PM
I'm glad Jack is doing so good.

I also wanted to add that superior equine sires has Machno Carwyn, the european pony champion (he won it twice). Not a connemara but a VERY good welsh pony: http://www.machno-carwyn.ch/english/index.html

GAEventer
Mar. 15, 2008, 06:13 PM
Does anyone know about the motility/quality of his semen? Or what the success rate is? I called Superior Equine sires and they don't have that information yet.

Sassenach
Mar. 15, 2008, 07:24 PM
Does anyone know about the motility/quality of his semen? Or what the success rate is? I called Superior Equine sires and they don't have that information yet.

I think I heard somewhere (don't quote me on this) that all of his foals are results of breeding with frozen semen due to his heavy competition schedule. So he's definitely proven that he gets mares in foal and has resulting offspring frozen semen-wise.

aude
Mar. 16, 2008, 06:30 AM
I don't know what the quality this year is, a couple years ago it was very average quality.
I just looked it up on the Haras Nationaux website:
in france in 2006 bred to 46 mares, 28 foals born
for 2007 I don't know since the foals aren't all born yet.
If you send an email to the syndicat linaro (www.syndicatlinaro.com) they will probably be able to give you the exact figures

erinwillow
Mar. 16, 2008, 06:14 PM
How many in total are interested in this sire? Carol has stated that she will need a minimum *committment* of 15 orders to even be able to fully offer Dexter--I have written to commit, anyone else? Are we near 15 yet??:confused:

erinwillow
Mar. 16, 2008, 06:20 PM
I don't know what the quality this year is, a couple years ago it was very average quality.
I just looked it up on the Haras Nationaux website:
in france in 2006 bred to 46 mares, 28 foals born
for 2007 I don't know since the foals aren't all born yet.
If you send an email to the syndicat linaro (www.syndicatlinaro.com) they will probably be able to give you the exact figures

Hello Aude,

Surprised to see Dexter listed as only #6 on the Syndicat Linaro site, http://www.syndicatlinaro.com/Top10Connemara2006.html

I am impressed with Thunder du Blin--a pony who shares many genetics with our newest foal: Willow's Lord of the Dance :D Yes!

Here are the pedigrees for comparison, Thunder du Blin has the famed sires Thunder as well as Carna Dun and Lavalley Rebel, http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/thunder+du+blin

Here is our "Luke"
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/willows+lord+of+the+dance

Great stuff!

aude
Mar. 17, 2008, 06:01 AM
thunder is a great pony, he sired soooo many ponies, even today he has quite a lot of mares. But he's small, and he tends to sire really puny ponies
a link to a video with one of his sons, Hors Pair http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/hors%2Bpair/video/xu723_hors-pair_sport

poltroon
Mar. 31, 2008, 03:43 AM
I'm glad Jack is doing so good.

I also wanted to add that superior equine sires has Machno Carwyn, the european pony champion (he won it twice). Not a connemara but a VERY good welsh pony: http://www.machno-carwyn.ch/english/index.html

That is a fantastic stallion. I bet he'd sire amazing half-bred horses, too. The pictures are amazing - and he was 4th over those jumps one year with a 12 year old child. !

We so need a pony jumper championship like the Europeans have. Wouldn't it be cool to have a series of regional championships at least?

hluing
Mar. 31, 2008, 06:17 AM
Yes it would! It would also be great to have a young pony championship that focused on the pony...not the rider. That way adults could also showcase fabulous young ponies...and down the line, we would have moe pony schoolmasters for kids.

poltroon
Mar. 31, 2008, 11:32 AM
I'm going to start a thread over in H/J land. :D

equestrianrider
Apr. 21, 2008, 09:12 PM
We called about Dexter, and committed to 2 orders. but she said, that the 15 had not been met. Does anyone know how many more we might need? I'm going to try to contact anyone i think might be interested, but I pray we can get 15!

GreyDun
Dec. 16, 2008, 09:19 PM
I'm dragging this thread back up again (the sport pony thread reminded me) - does anyone know if his semen is available in the US? I thought that I'd heard that rumor going around... and if so, who's the provider? Anyone have any info? I'd email the person who stands him, but the website is all in French...and I don't speak French. ;)

Sassenach
Dec. 16, 2008, 09:39 PM
I'm dragging this thread back up again (the sport pony thread reminded me) - does anyone know if his semen is available in the US? I thought that I'd heard that rumor going around... and if so, who's the provider? Anyone have any info? I'd email the person who stands him, but the website is all in French...and I don't speak French. ;)

His semen is indeed available in the US. :yes:

A friend of ours has 2 Connemara mares in foal to Dexter and due in summer 2009. The semen quality was excellent - 2 out of 3 mares (one a maiden) took on the first try and it was then decided that the third mare would not be tried again and left open.

goodpony
Dec. 16, 2008, 09:53 PM
he is available through Superior Equine Sires (http://www.superiorequinesires.com/).

Sassenach
Dec. 16, 2008, 09:55 PM
he is available through Superior Equine Sires (http://www.superiorequinesires.com/).

:yes: That's what our friend used.

goodpony
Dec. 16, 2008, 09:58 PM
Did you see there are two new Connemara stallions available through SES, both German, both approved Hanoverian (????), but I am a little scratching my head on what they have done with respect to performance out side of breed shows?

GreyDun
Dec. 16, 2008, 10:09 PM
Excellent! Thank you for the link :)

poltroon
Dec. 18, 2008, 04:10 PM
Prices are lower here:
http://www.stallionsnow.com/stallion-ad-130421

and pictures etc here:
http://www.connemara.de/

I think the approved Hannoverian thing isn't meaning the breed/registry, but some sort of accreditation about the quality of the frozen straws?

Professionally collected, stored and shipped through our hanoverian States Stud in Adelheidsdorf/Celle and additionally tested and certified for its quality by the Hanoverian THH.

hluing
Dec. 18, 2008, 04:58 PM
Nope, these Conny stallions have been inspected and approved by the Hannover Pony and small Horse society.

goodpony
Dec. 18, 2008, 05:58 PM
Right the local pony breeding group for that region. I am pretty sure those lines are represented in the US through at least two or more stallions both here and in Canada (by fresh).

On another note, I read where the three year old Connemara Mare *Glenormiston Annashee was Champion overall Breeds represented at her 2 week performance test (Baden-Wurtemburg) with an outstanding overall score of 7.95. Annashee is very closely related to my three year old pony :)

erinwillow
Dec. 20, 2008, 02:22 PM
Interesting thread. . .re: Dexter, for some reason I'm confused. . last year Carol informed us that there needed to be a total of 5 orders of frozen for Dexter in order for her to import, maybe three is enough?? Well, congrats to those mares in foal to him. . .I'm sure the babies will just be little jumping beans!:winkgrin:

Re: the other two german connie stallions listed on SES. . the first one listed: Pattys Veuve Clicot is actually not that closely related to ponies already here in N. America. Though he shares a sire with other ponies here, the damline is completely different, http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/pattys+veuve+cosmic Also, Pattys Look at Me has been gelded.

The other fellow, Rhinstroems Mighty Man has some lovely and unique breeding for the N. America context. He has some pretty excellent ponies very close up in his pedigree, http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/rhinstroems+mighty+man which might make him appealing to the N.American breeder. I think he's young though, no? So perhaps time will tell if his progeny are the next superstars ;)

GAEventer
Dec. 20, 2008, 09:12 PM
A couple of friends of mine, and myself included, were interested in purchasing Dexter's frozen semen from Superior Equine Sires. Friend called yesterday, and they're already sold out! If they sold out that quickly let's cross our fingers that Carol will order more for this year.

erinwillow
Dec. 21, 2008, 09:58 AM
GAeventer, well please do keep us posted! How very exciting :winkgrin:

goodpony
Dec. 21, 2008, 11:29 AM
Re: the other two german connie stallions listed on SES. . the first one listed: Pattys Veuve Clicot is actually not that closely related to ponies already here in N. America. Though he shares a sire with other ponies here, the damline is completely different, http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/pattys+veuve+cosmic Also, Pattys Look at Me has been gelded.

The other fellow, Rhinstroems Mighty Man has some lovely and unique breeding for the N. America context. He has some pretty excellent ponies very close up in his pedigree, http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/rhinstroems+mighty+man which might make him appealing to the N.American breeder. I think he's young though, no? So perhaps time will tell if his progeny are the next superstars ;)[/QUOTE]

Patty's Dreama Littl Dream (http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/index.php?query_type=horse&done=y&horse=PATTYS+DREAMA+LITTLE+DREAM&g=5&small_font=&cellpadding=0&l=&t=&sire_bgcolor=CCCCFF&dam_bgcolor=FFCCCC) is similarly bred to this fellow, with a reasonable stud fee.

As well as Pattys Etoile De Paris (http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/index.php?query_type=horse&search_bar=horse&h=PATTYS+ETOILE+DE+PARIS&g=5)

Also the mares Pattys Brown Sugar, Pattys Meredith & Pattys Noblesse Oblige.

erinwillow
Dec. 21, 2008, 11:53 AM
Right the local pony breeding group for that region. I am pretty sure those lines are represented in the US through at least two or more stallions both here and in Canada (by fresh).

I guess my response had more to do with this comment. . the idea that "the line" was already represented here in the US. Though all the ponies are from Patty's stud I still see quite a variety in individual pedigrees so wasn't sure what you meant by "lines" unless you are referring to one specific pony in a pedigree. But as we all know each pony in a pedigree will influence the "whole" and hence a completely different damline might influence a particular pony in all sorts of various ways. Just my two cents . . interesting topic really

On another note, I read where the three year old Connemara Mare *Glenormiston Annashee was Champion overall Breeds represented at her 2 week performance test (Baden-Wurtemburg) with an outstanding overall score of 7.95. Annashee is very closely related to my three year old pony :)


Annashee is by *Caslte Baron himself and quite a gorgeous gal! Would be cool to post a link to her website so others can view her. .she is FAB:winkgrin:

goodpony
Dec. 21, 2008, 02:52 PM
Merely pointing out that there are several similarly bred ponies present in the US. There are also several breeding stallions carrying various combinations of Irish, English and Danish breeding.....Glenormiston Cuchulain is a wonderful example of imported breeding available in the US that stems from a known Danish Female Family:Roundstone Lass (http://www.connemaraponny.org/mares/rlass.htm)

Anyhow, Might be worth further investigation if one is interested in using these either of these guys. With respect to the uniqueness of the damline, its not one Im familiar with?

erinwillow
Dec. 21, 2008, 03:05 PM
Merely pointing out that there are several similarly bred ponies present in the US. There are also several breeding stallions carrying various combinations of Irish, English and Danish breeding.....Glenormiston Cuchulain is a wonderful example of imported breeding available in the US that stems from a known Danish Female Family:Roundstone Lass (http://www.connemaraponny.org/mares/rlass.htm)

Anyhow, Might be worth further investigation if one is interested in using these either of these guys. With respect to the uniqueness of the damline, its not one Im familiar with?

To whom are you referring, Mighty Man or Veuve Cosmic?? both?? :lol:

erinwillow
Dec. 30, 2008, 03:36 PM
NEWS FLASH!! I just received news from Carol at SES that Dexter is again being offered for 2009. I think the deadline is March to get orders in--how cool is this???:winkgrin: Here is the link to her site: http://www.superiorequinesires.com/stallions/dexterleampondi.shtml

yay! go jumping pony breeders go! :D

EZ
Jan. 1, 2009, 10:38 PM
NEWS FLASH!! I just received news from Carol at SES that Dexter is again being offered for 2009. I think the deadline is March to get orders in--how cool is this???:winkgrin: Here is the link to her site: http://www.superiorequinesires.com/stallions/dexterleampondi.shtml

yay! go jumping pony breeders go! :D

Better use him!! He is having surgery pretty soon for his limping issue. He won't be collected early this year, if at all... :no:
I am definitely going to use him on my mare. Probably next year, don't want to wait too long...

Sassenach
Jan. 1, 2009, 10:40 PM
Better use him!! He is having surgery pretty soon for his limping issue. He won't be collected early this year, if at all... :no:
I am definitely going to use him on my mare. Probably next year, don't want to wait too long...

You're going to breed him to Oleander?

That should be a lovely cross! :)

goodpony
Jan. 2, 2009, 12:51 AM
I'm calling dibs on that one :D whoo wee! If Ole goes missing....she is NOT at my house.

EZ
Jan. 2, 2009, 01:29 AM
You're going to breed him to Oleander?

That should be a lovely cross! :)

Hopefully, yes! Breeding is not my priority but I kind of want to use Dexter before he is not available anymore. So it's next year or never...

How are you, by the way? It's been a while... Happy New Year!! I am sure you went home for the holidays, how is your lovely stallion?

Lisa, I am watching you :lol:

goodpony
Jan. 4, 2009, 07:19 PM
I just noticed a son (might have been a brother) of his on the market at ewarmbloods....looks very nice :)

equestrianrider
Jul. 16, 2010, 11:25 AM
he's here! (we've been trying for the past few years to get some Dexter and it's been a trial) Its been so hectic getting everything to pass, but we received a phone call today that our tank had passed customs in NY and should arrive early next week! (i saw this thread on google so had to spread the news)
Let's just pray now that our mares catch and everything goes well there!

poltroon
Jul. 16, 2010, 11:53 AM
he's here! (we've been trying for the past few years to get some Dexter and it's been a trial) Its been so hectic getting everything to pass, but we received a phone call today that our tank had passed customs in NY and should arrive early next week! (i saw this thread on google so had to spread the news)
Let's just pray now that our mares catch and everything goes well there!

Good luck, and I look forward to seeing how the babies turn out! He is such a powerhouse - I wish we had as good a showcase for our ponies on this side of the pond as the European pony jumpers.

Sassenach
Jul. 16, 2010, 11:00 PM
he's here! (we've been trying for the past few years to get some Dexter and it's been a trial) Its been so hectic getting everything to pass, but we received a phone call today that our tank had passed customs in NY and should arrive early next week! (i saw this thread on google so had to spread the news)
Let's just pray now that our mares catch and everything goes well there!

Best of luck!!

A friend of ours had a Dexter Leam Pondi filly out of his nice Connemara mare (think she was the first in the States) but he sadly lost her at a few weeks of age last year :( he's hoping to try again in a year or so.

He was very happy with the quality of Dexter's semen but has the good fortune of being near a VERY good equine reproduction station so that helped.

Good luck!