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hrfponies
Mar. 9, 2008, 07:51 PM
I am thinking of breeding my mare to Paparazzo... Has anyone ever encountered him or any of his offspring??
Any other nice hunter stallions I should consider??
I want a stallion with a great, super quiet disposition.
Thanks for your input!!:D
Taunton
Mar. 9, 2008, 08:09 PM
I have a holsteiner mare that I bred to him with a lot of TB blood. What a wonderful cross. The resulting offspring is very correct (so was mom), great feet (much better than the dam), big (16 hands now, big joints, nice bone), a tad lazy, a wonderful mover, chestnut (hoped for a bay), wonderful, wonderful temperment, very athletic. Can I say it again? Wonderful, wonderful temperment. Big improvement over the mare who can be a bit hot and insecure. My colt is rising two now and has always been a happy go lucky, confident young man who can be a bit of a clown. I have learned that no full water trough is safe, no halters hanging on the fence, or even trash can lids that might blow into the paddock become horse frisbees.
On another note, I have heard that if your mare's neck is not quite correct (as in length) that can be passed along since P's neck is beefy. Cindy is very good to work with, very helpful and honest with her opinions. Don Alfredo is very nice as well.
I would breed this mare back to him in a heartbeat.
Taunton
Mar. 9, 2008, 08:13 PM
Give Cindy a call and tell her about your mare. She is a wealth of information and very easy to talk to! Paparazzo should have a few youngsters under saddle by now and she could tell you about what they are like.
hrfponies
Mar. 9, 2008, 08:14 PM
I am glad to here you got a wonderful baby out of him. I really really like him, but my only concern is my mare is a Trakehner and she has a shorter neck. It looks like he also has a shorter neck than a lot of warmblood stallions.
But, my mare's full sister did not have the short more compact neck that my mare has so maybe it won't carry over too much!!
hrfponies
Mar. 9, 2008, 08:15 PM
Yes I will give her a call because my mare is currently in foal to Capital III and due on April 28th. I would like to foal heat breed her so I need to get moving!!
phoebe05
Mar. 9, 2008, 08:19 PM
I have a daughter......5th time US, with no lunge or running around prior to getting on our first walk around the arena 4 deer jumped the fence and came running at us out of nowhere. I halted and we proceeded to stand there and watch the show like it happened everyday. The deer raced by and jumped out we proceeded as if nothing ever happened :D
Her stride is so huge I don't like to lunge she learned how in 10 mins and I have done it once since. So far everything I have ever done has been like this she likes to learn but acts like she has done it all before. PM me if you would like more information.
If quiet temperment is your #1 I can't think of a better stallion. I can think of others that have great temperments:
Don Alfredo
Cunningham
Apiro
Popeye K
Chaleon
Redwine
Cabalito
I know I am forgetting some but just check the boards there have been many threads about this.
fish
Mar. 9, 2008, 08:31 PM
Hey, Phoebe-- did you ever have a chance to check out As Always (or see Crown Affair either)?
phoebe05
Mar. 9, 2008, 08:40 PM
No on As Always. I know Crown Affair very well PM or e-mail me :)
moonpie
Mar. 9, 2008, 09:54 PM
I had a Paparazzo colt - great, great temperament, nice looking, good mover (but the mare was a good mover and quiet). Lacked elasticity which was actually a determent to the mare - not very free in the shoulder but mare was more free. But, overall a nice colt. Just watch the correctness in the front legs, espeically the right front. I have seen enough to be called a trend that are clubby right front and sometimes toed out, some having had to have the surgery to correct.
LockeMeadows
Mar. 9, 2008, 10:46 PM
I had a Paparazzo colt - great, great temperament, nice looking, good mover (but the mare was a good mover and quiet). Lacked elasticity which was actually a determent to the mare - not very free in the shoulder but mare was more free.
We had a Paparazzo colt in 2006. Actually, I believe he is the only gray Paparazzo colt in the US. He was a very correct mover, but was a little tight in the shoulder. The lady that purchased him loved his movement and he should make a very fancy Hunter. My colt also had correct leg conformation, as did his dam. I would have liked a little longer neck, but everything else came out beautiful.
Pictured at three weeks old.
phoebe05
Mar. 9, 2008, 10:52 PM
Moonpie how old was your colt when you sold him? My filly looked a bit locked in the shoulder at times when she was growing I would constantly think how is that possible when I looked at her shoulder and she was so quiet I rarely would get to see her trot or canter....even chasing her wouldn't do much. Once she started to level out she had an amazing trot and canter. Lot's of suspension and power, huge stride and flat and sweepy for the hunters.
I wouldn't be quick to place the blame on the stallion for the right front feet or legs either no matter how many you have seen. He improved both on my filly. There are too many variables in feed etc. to point a finger at a stallion. He himself is not incorrect if he were and you saw that in the foals then maybe it would be worth mentioning.
It is interesting that the top sires for Hunter Breeding all have offspring with the "club feet" and you have to really wonder if those are just because the offspring are fattened up to go show on the line....just a theory.
spacely
Mar. 9, 2008, 10:55 PM
We had a Paparazzo colt in 2006. Actually, I believe he is the only gray Paparazzo colt in the US.
Nope, I know of another gray 2006 Paparazzo colt. He's now owned by Hunter's Grove & can be seen on their site. His name is Pardon Me.
I have met 5 Paparazzo babies. All were lovely, great temperaments & should do well in the ring.
Phoebe, I want to know about Crown Affair. Sending you an email...:yes:
lauriep
Mar. 10, 2008, 07:21 AM
It is interesting that the top sires for Hunter Breeding all have offspring with the "club feet" and you have to really wonder if those are just because the offspring are fattened up to go show on the line....just a theory.
No, it isn't, as we get babies in LONG before they begin to gain weight and they have this tendancy. I think it is much more due to farriers not knowing how to properly trim these problem feet. We have a wonderful guy who is able to turn these feet around in a few trimmings, if they are young enough, and get excellent results even on older horses. But he has to stay at it, trimming the young ones every two weeks.
Lives2Jump
Mar. 11, 2008, 12:10 AM
Tackpud has one! She is adorable :yes:
http://api.ning.com/files/DGcMHy8bvhmde4-25p890AhV0s6yThdPL964qvI88LY_/Suds1.jpg?width=425&height=379
paris35
Mar. 11, 2008, 05:30 PM
I have been a lurker for awhile on the boards and thought this would be a good first post. I own a 2 year old Paparazzo filly that I've had for over a year. She is the most easy going, friendly horse I have been around.
The first time she was lunged she was perfect, she just knew what to do. When I introduced the bridle she basically put it on herself. She's been to several hunter breeding shows and always is well behaved. The braider said she was the best baby she had ever braided! Everything has just been super easy with her, like she has done it all a million times before. It doesn't hurt that she has decent comformation, is a pretty mover, and has cute bling too. I can't wait to ride her.
My close friend also has a coming 4 year old Paparazzo gelding that has been very easy to bring along under saddle. He's a beautiful mover with a huge stride, very fancy and very sweet. She's been taking it slow with him because he has been growing so much, he will probably end up 17.2 h's by the time he's done. He has very correct conformation and is very flashy. He'll be one to watch for in the show ring soon!
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