Lost Foal--Nursemare Available.... UPDATE necropsy results

[ThirdCharm]

Lost our day-old foal (no idea why yet, took it to the diagnostic lab this morning), dam is a great mom and has TONS of milk if anyone has an orphan foal --is there a central database somewhere?

Located near Charlotte, NC

Update... today got the necropsy results.... foal had slight haemhorrage around the brain consistent with mare standing up while foaling and 'dropping it on its head'.... obv not too horrible b/c it was up and about for a day and a half... from the condition of intestines the vet thinks maybe clostridium bacteria (sent samples to state) took advantage of the 'stressed' systems, went on the rampage and went septic.... She was born Thursday noon, got right up and nursed, was nursing when we checked her at 10 pm Friday, dead and barely cold at 8 am Saturday....? Can it happen that FAST?

Jennifer

[Hillside H Ranch]

Just want to offer my condolences :(.

[Sassenach]

:( So sorry to hear that.

[shea'smom]

Oh no! So sorry.
I have one coming any day... I'm not sure I am up to the worry. I don't think breeding is for me.

[MagicRoseFarm]

sorry for your loss, bless you for the offer

[FLIPPED HER HALO]

I'm so sorry for your loss! I know there is a group on yahoo for nursemares but I can't remember what it was. Do a search on here as I know somebody posted it up before.

[foxhavenfarm]

So sorry for your loss...

[carosello]

Good luck to you and your mare. I believe there is a website that has listings of foals that need mares and mares who can be nursemares. I will look around and see if I can find it.


OK found it!


http://www.cyberfoal.com/

[TouchstoneAcres]

I'm very sorry. It is so sad after the waiting and for the dam. Not that I hope for any orphans but it would be nice if some good from it. That's how I felt when I lost one anyway.

[ThirdCharm]

Thanks, I put her on the yahoo site and the cyberfoals....

Jennifer

[Foxtrot's]

Does a mare who refuses to stop milking even after her foal is weaned have any uses as a nurse-mare? I don't have a case right now, but it would be interesting to know she could be of use for a few months to save a baby. Would she re-ramp up to the needs of a foal? Would she accept one? She would not supply colustrom (sp) though.

I'm so sorry for the loss of the baby.

[Fallbrook]

Thanks, I put her on the yahoo site and the cyberfoals....

Jennifer

Jennifer -

So sorry for your loss. You might want to consider emailing or calling NCSU CVM. They may have a recent orphan.

[JB]

Oh Jennifer, I am so sorry to hear this! Huge thanks to you for offering your mare up for another foal:sadsmile:

[Molly Malone]

I'm so sorry for your loss

[3Dogs]

I am SO sorry! :no:

[fish]

Also sorry for your loss and hope you and your mare will succeed in finding some consolation in helping an orphaned foal.

To answer Foxtrot's question, the quality of mare's milk starts to decline fairly rapidly after 3 months as the foal's digestive system matures so s/he derives the bulk of his/her nutrients from other sources. Nutritionally, an orphan might therefore be better served by bucket feeding a good milk replacer.

[risingstarfarm]

I'm so sorry to hear about your loss. You are generous to be thinking of other foals at this time.

[Fred]

I'm so sorry for your loss, and for your mare.
take care
Gail

[ThirdCharm]

bump, results in first post....

[Daydream Believer]

I'm so sorry! How sad!

[LAZ]

I'm so sorry.

[pintopiaffe]

I am so sorry.

Yes, it can happen that fast. I had a rising 2yo flip over while being tubed for a choke. He was fine, then about 36 hours, was dead. No temp, no symptoms... of course we believe he had a brain bleed, though I wasn't able to necropsy.

But thank you for sharing that. Painful as I *KNOW* it is for you... this information helps us all.

[okggo]

I'm so terribly sorry about your loss :(

[Lesley Feakins]

So sorry for your lost.
It doesn't make it easier but sometimes it does help to know the cause.
Hugs to your mare.

[sporthorsefilly]

So terribly sorry to hear about your loss, one looks toward the joy of a new life, and to lose it suddenly, without warning is devastating.

[talloaks]

I'm so sorry to hear of your loss. Foaling time is very dangerous to both mare and foal. One of my mares foaled standing up but my vet was there to catch it, one reason I send my mares out to my vets for foaling. Actually I think that mare always stands for foaling.:eek:

[work4horse]

oh I am so sorry for your loss. Poor mare must be just wondering what happened to her foal. I know my mare would have stolen a foal a few years ago if she had had the chance after I had to put her filly to sleep. She was so confused and searched/cried for a few days before accepting the fact her foal was gone.

[grayarabpony]

Yes, it can definitely happen that fast. Blessed are the Broodmares should be called Cursed are the Broodmares, I thought after reading it.

Any takers for your mare as a nurse mare yet? I wish I'd known someone like you when my guy was orphaned 7 years ago. After reading the above book I kept expecting to go down to the barn and see him gone too.

Horses are so delicate. I am very sorry for your loss.

[Daydream Believer]

I'm so sorry to hear of your loss. Foaling time is very dangerous to both mare and foal. One of my mares foaled standing up but my vet was there to catch it, one reason I send my mares out to my vets for foaling. Actually I think that mare always stands for foaling.:eek:

I had to catch one last year and while I could not ease her down with her weight and being wet and slippery, I at least broke the filly's fall and protected her head and neck. Stuff like that can happen so fast. This mare was not usually one to do something like that.

[Blonde Filly]

So sorry for the loss of your foal!!! RIP little one!!!! :(

[Tiki]

Ohhhh, what a bummer. I'm so sorry for your loss. Breeding ain't for the faint of heart.

[ThirdCharm]

Yeah, I was kind of a wreck Sat/Sun wondering "was it something I did?" so getting the results yesterday was a relief.... we have three mares to breed for next year, so hopefully that will all go well....

Jennifer

[Foxtrot's]

Terribly, terribly sad. I am sorry.

[Cinnybren]

My sincerest condolences to you and your mare. Godspeed little one.

[maxxtrot]

jennifer- so sorry to hear of your loss. and yes, it can happen that fast. i worked with an equine vet for 6 years, and have seen it happen a lot. it never gets eaiser, i always have a tear in my eye, even when they are not mine :(

[Ghost]

So sorry to hear about your loss - so sad...

[classicsporthorses]

so sorry to hear of your loss.

[shea'smom]

Jennifer,
I am glad you got some results. I hope it gives you some relief. We just can not save then from everything.
Poor momma and poor baby.
Kathi

[ShowjumpersUSA]

Our mare shut down her milk supply last Sunday night. We put in a call to Jennifer and her SO. Within a very few minutes, they brought their nursemare to us. They're wonderful neighbors and we appreciate their generosity and thoughtfulness.

Our foal is doing well and our mare, on Domperidone, is producing milk again.

I am so sorry you lost your sweet foal, Jennifer. I know how heartbreaking it is to lose one of these little ones. Thank you for coming to the rescue of our little filly at such a difficult time.

Bonnie

[Foxtrot's]

So now the foal has two mothers?

[ShowjumpersUSA]

No, we were able to milk the nursemare and feed the milk to the foal until her mother began to produce milk again. We could have used milk replacer but having the mothers milk seemed better to me.

[Kristin J.]

I had a mare (Toots) who had been weaned from her foal for quite awhile, when a maiden mare refused to nurse her new foal. I never would of thought to used Toots for the foal, but when I turned Toots out she rolled in the sand and I saw that she still had a bag of milk. She happly took to nursing the foal and saved me much needed sleep from bottle feeding the foal.