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Glimmerglass
Mar. 3, 2008, 01:28 PM
Like any list the author's selections can be debated, however there is at least one film I've never seen on this list: 1956's "The Killing" and 1978's "Casey's Shadow"

(as spied by Equidaily.com)

Bill Christine (LA Times) "Top 10 horse-racing movies of all-time" (http://www.horseraceinsider.com/blog.php/west-coast-wash/comments/lets-go-to-the-movies/#comments)

abridged list (click on link above for more details about and why chosen)


10. "A Day at the Races," 1937**

9. "Casey's Shadow," 1978 (http://imdb.com/title/tt0077303/)

8. "The Black Stallion," 1979

7. "National Velvet," 1945

6. "Bite the Bullet," 1975

5. "Premieres Armes," 1950

4. "Seabiscuit," 2003

3. "The Killing," 1956 (http://imdb.com/title/tt0049406/) - rated by IMDB as the 141st greatest film of all time ....

2. "Champions," 1984

1. "Phar Lap," 1983 (http://tomburlinson.homestead.com/pharlapphotos.html) - I added in a link to a fan site

** TCM just showed this last month; I DVR'd it and couldn't despite three tries get through the first 40 minutes - I'm just not a Marx Bros. fan. Edited to add this youtube.com clip someone did of the film (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3qU2Tr9iy4)

Other movies have passing elements of racing in them - like the great 1971 Michael Caine flick "Get Carter" (http://imdb.com/title/tt0067128/) with racing from Newcastle Racecourse.

johnnysauntie
Mar. 3, 2008, 01:34 PM
I have to throw "Run for the Roses" in there, circa 1977. That was the year I 'discovered' horse racing (not a bad year, huh?) and to my third grade brain, that movie was the coolest.

WindyIsles
Mar. 3, 2008, 01:37 PM
Phar Lap :sadsmile: It broke my heart as a child.

pinkdiamondracing
Mar. 3, 2008, 01:43 PM
Casey's Shadow-- saw it in the theater when I was about seven. It still is one of my favorites, and I wish I had it on DVD. Other than that, I would have to say Phar Lap--what a tearjerker

Glimmerglass
Mar. 3, 2008, 01:47 PM
Casey's Shadow... and I wish I had it on DVD.

I'm sure copies can be had for less, but Casey's Shadow on DVD (http://www.bestprices.com/cgi-bin/vlink/043396101418IE.html)

caffeinated
Mar. 3, 2008, 02:15 PM
I just can't believe that Let it Ride (http://imdb.com/title/tt0097731/) isn't on that list....

Laurierace
Mar. 3, 2008, 02:16 PM
How can Dreamer not be on this list??? I am outraged!! Just kidding, that movie made me want to gouge my eyeballs out, I thought racing stripes was more realistic! I remember Casey's Shadow vaguely, that was a good one.

DLee
Mar. 3, 2008, 03:42 PM
I actually liked Dreamer a lot. I just had to avert my eyes from the scenes in the sling and such. Kind of like not watching Spirit lap water and have eyebrows. There's always something.

Texarkana
Mar. 3, 2008, 04:12 PM
Dreamer....

*giggles hysterically*

I am embarassed to say that I've only seen two of the movies on this list. I think I need to do some catching up!

Tiramit
Mar. 3, 2008, 04:42 PM
I'm kind of shocked that the Black Stallion is below some of the others. For artistic purposes and glorious pan shots alone it should be higher up, not to mention that lump in my throat I always get during the final race!

Casey's Shadow biased me against white footed horses, LOL. Every time I see one, particularly a chestnut, I hear Walter Mathau singsonging "4 white socks cut off its nose and feed it to the crows...."

Phar Lap. So sad. Seabiscuit, National Velvet and A Day at the Races are all great (I like old movies). Champions is awesome if not a bit, well, British. I have the Aldaniti race on DVD and it's awesome.

Let it Ride should be on the list!

rcloisonne
Mar. 3, 2008, 05:01 PM
Phar Lap - hands down the best racing film ever.

pinkdiamondracing
Mar. 3, 2008, 05:03 PM
As a cast member of Dreamer, may I plead the case for it by saying, the focus of the movie was not the horse racing, it was about the family, and how racing both drovfe the family apart, and ultimately racing brought the family back together. And yes-- I know Laurie-- as a person also within the racing industry I thought a lot of the horse racing parts were Hokey. They tried to make the racing scenes as authentic as we could, and I know the paddock scene at the Breeder's cup wasn't realisitc--because we don't hang the overgirths around the horse's necks, but we had so many horses on that shoot, it was the only way I could ensure the right horse had on the right size overgirth.

JER
Mar. 3, 2008, 05:08 PM
"The Killing" is terrific. More so if you like Sterling Hayden.

I am not generally a fan of Stanley Kubrick unless I'm looking forward to a nap. But back before he was *Stanley Kubrick*, he could make a taut, thrilling movie, like this one or Paths of Glory, both clocking in at under 90 mins.

Thanks for posting the list.

dressagetraks
Mar. 3, 2008, 05:26 PM
Loved Phar Lap, although so sad.

I've never seen a few of those. Have to look them up.

I actually had an aide client (my PT job is as a home health aide) switch off Dreamer almost to the end. She was watching it one day as I cleaned her house, and she said wasn't that a neat horse movie. So I was pointing out horsey holes in it. She finally shut it off to finish after I left.

Although I must admit, I know one that makes me gag worse. Have any of you ever seen the old alleged Seabiscuit movie with Shirley Temple? If you haven't, don't bother looking it up. The description gives you all the info you need to make a decision.

Xctrygirl
Mar. 3, 2008, 05:33 PM
TOTALLY agree about "Champions"

It was an amazing story in real life and the movie did it justice brilliantly. Sure its British, but it's a totally inspiring true story from that side of the pond.

There is another one but I can't think of it. I know I saw it and adored it. But damn if I can think of the name of it.


~Emily

Calico
Mar. 3, 2008, 05:39 PM
Have seen all of these except Premieres Armes. Champions is fantastic! (does anyone know how to obtain this movie nowadays?)

Saw Bite the Bullet in the theatre - the slow motion scenes of horses struggling and collapsing in the desert of heat exhaustion are still vivid 30+ years later. It's a bit gruesome, if I remember correctly.

Kyzteke
Mar. 3, 2008, 05:47 PM
Like any list the author's selections can be debated, however there is at least one film I've never seen on this list: 1956's "The Killing" and 1978's "Casey's Shadow"

(as spied by Equidaily.com)

Bill Christine (LA Times) "Top 10 horse-racing movies of all-time" (http://www.horseraceinsider.com/blog.php/west-coast-wash/comments/lets-go-to-the-movies/#comments)

abridged list (click on link above for more details about and why chosen)



** TCM just showed this last month; I DVR'd it and couldn't despite three tries get through the first 40 minutes - I'm just not a Marx Bros. fan. Edited to add this youtube.com clip someone did of the film (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3qU2Tr9iy4)

Other movies have passing elements of racing in them - like the great 1971 Michael Caine flick "Get Carter" (http://imdb.com/title/tt0067128/) with racing from Newcastle Racecourse.

Wow -- now I know I really AM a horse racing film geek.

I have everyone of those films on tape/DVD EXCEPT "Bite the Bullet." Anyone seen it available? I LOVED that movie, but haven't been able to find it except on video.

I have Casey's Shadow on VSH -- I didn't think much of the movie, but it was filmed down where I use to train racehorses and first got my trainer's license, so I have a soft spot for it. The red brick church in the opening credits is the church I got married in and the "bush" track with all the Cajuns is where I used to fit up my horses....it's where I met my future ex-husband (also a Cajun).

Memories....

As far as racing movies that are accurate, I would have to go with Phar Lap and Champions.

"Dreamer," -- wow -- was that a stinker. They kind of lost me when I noticed that Dreamer the Filly had a penis.

Tiramit
Mar. 3, 2008, 08:39 PM
Have seen all of these except Premieres Armes. Champions is fantastic! (does anyone know how to obtain this movie nowadays?)
.

I've seen it on Amazon and Ebay in the past. You might start there.

Wait, I found it for you ;o) :
http://www.amazon.com/Champions-Julie-Adams/dp/B000O5B4D8/ref=pd_bbs_3?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1204594697&sr=8-3

La Gringa
Mar. 3, 2008, 08:46 PM
I really liked Seabiscuit.. and for more than the races. The importance to the era, the 30's, the DEPRESSION, and how much it meant to people. Seabiscuit got more press in 1938 than any famous human of the time!

I love how the movie was done, the reference to families, struggle, and the idea of having a purpose.

It was a very well done film, and I loved it.

I also loved the Black Stallion, but I was so young when I saw that.. and read all the books.. it doesn't stick out in my mind as much now.

Seabiscuit it is for me.. and the fact that my new OTTB looks exactly like the horse they brought out as "War Admiral" in that scene at the stables at night, is also a plus for me. :winkgrin:

Drvmb1ggl3
Mar. 3, 2008, 08:48 PM
Is Seabiscuit not a bit American, or Phar Lap not a bit Australian? Lads, good racing is good racing.

Champions is head and shoulders above the others on the list. Well acted, with one of the leading actors of his generation, John Hurt, as the main actor. The horse footage is second to none, some of the cinematography of the horses on the gallops at Lambourn is gorgeous, and the racing and training scenes are the real deal. Plus, Aldaniti got to play himself in the movie.

Here's the race that inspired (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mCBxtcNqZE) the film. I saw a pub full of grown men choking back tears that day, a very emotional race. BTW, the 2nd placed horse/rider were an inspiring story of their own. Spartan Missile was owned-bred-trained AND ridden by 54 year old John Thorne. He also had bred the dam, Polaris Missile, who herself had ran in the National, ridden by Thorne's son. Thorne sadly died in a fall several months later.

Laurierace
Mar. 3, 2008, 09:04 PM
As a cast member of Dreamer, may I plead the case for it by saying, the focus of the movie was not the horse racing, it was about the family, and how racing both drovfe the family apart, and ultimately racing brought the family back together. And yes-- I know Laurie-- as a person also within the racing industry I thought a lot of the horse racing parts were Hokey. They tried to make the racing scenes as authentic as we could, and I know the paddock scene at the Breeder's cup wasn't realisitc--because we don't hang the overgirths around the horse's necks, but we had so many horses on that shoot, it was the only way I could ensure the right horse had on the right size overgirth.


I try really hard to cut horsey movies a little slack as I know I am more familiar with the subject than their general audience. The list of things "wrong" with Dreamer was so long I would type my fingers off listing them all. And I don't mean the mare being a gelding part, I understand that, geldings are more predictable to work with. I just don't understand why it had to be so ridiculous though. Mariah's Storm was a pretty good story in and of herself. If you want to do a movie about her, then do it about her. Leave out the hanging in a sling three feet off the ground, and the blood test to show she is infertile, and the sheiks paying the entry fees and an exercise rider as a jockey, spotting the field a quarter mile lead while your exercise rider puts his foot back in the iron with his hand...oh wait, I said I wouldn't make a list!

Acertainsmile
Mar. 3, 2008, 09:23 PM
We were at Keeneland when they were filming part of Dreamer... it was very interesting to say the least.. the movie however, was a huge dissapointment.

I also try to give these racing movies a break... I barely made it through Ruffian... I dont think anyone has mentioned that film on this thread either..hmmm.

I would love to see a well done film about Man O War... I remember hearing something about a movie being done, but have yet to hear anything further..

Anyone know?

TwoArabs
Mar. 3, 2008, 10:00 PM
I love all those movies but what still can bring tears to my eyes is the you tube 73 belmont where Secretariat takes the triple crown. when the announcer says he is runnibg like a tremendous machibe I lose it.

Glimmerglass
Mar. 3, 2008, 10:00 PM
I would love to see a well done film about Man O War... I remember hearing something about a movie being done, but have yet to hear anything further.

I haven't seen anything about that myself. The recent book on Man O'War was an exhaustive detailed record on him and didn't lend itself, as per say, as the basis of a screenplay. One of the rubs is that his owner wasn't overly likeable or even really colorful.

Now Willis Sharp Kilmer, owner of notables Exterminator and Sun Beau, would make for an exceptionally interesting character in a movie about Old Bones. The problem there is that Seabiscuit somewhat set the formula for that type of tale: unexpected results from a horse, large fan base, heavy media coverage, successful owner in business who built up a stable, etc.

Least we forget inhind sight: Exterminator and MOW both were very popular when then ran (http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9804E0DD153AEF33A25752C3A96E9C94 6896D6CF) - some folks rewrite history to suggest the masses came to Spa to see just MOW which wasn't the case.

I digress - William Nack (who didn't fare well with his Ruffian book or his tie-in with the ESPN Films movie of the same) did say he was working on a Secretariat movie that had been optioned out to a production company. Who knows if it will get a green light. I'd rather another big feature movie like Seabiscuit (with a $50M budget) then a highly compromised cable tv movie.

A Funny Cide movie was pitched, a deal inked, and was to have gone into production for TNT (Turner Films) but was shelved after he dropped a could of races and time moved on.

JER
Mar. 3, 2008, 10:18 PM
A glaring omission from the list: The Belles of St. Trinian's (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0046766/).

A hilarious riot of a movie.

Schoolgirls kidnap a racehorse and plot a betting scandal. These girls are scheming, brawling, anarchic, unredeemed hellions. It doesn't get better than this.

Scottish actor Alastair Sim plays the headmistress's brother. He also plays the headmistress herself, in very dubious drag.

Slewdledo
Mar. 3, 2008, 10:35 PM
"Kentucky" should have made it, if only for the cameos and performances of the famous horses that portrayed the movie horses. :winkgrin:

"Dreamer" was great. When I saw it in the theater, most of the crowd was actually cheering during the race. Watched it one night with our (Hispanic) farm manager who loved it and showed it to his daughter who also loved it. Good movie. :)

La Gringa
Mar. 4, 2008, 08:34 AM
I thought Dreamer was a cute film. I don't get too picky about horse movies, I know there are going to be flaws sometimes with the horse reality of it.

The storyline was cute, and Dakota Fanning was great in it. She's a good little actess.

:)

DLee
Mar. 4, 2008, 09:29 AM
One of the best parts of Dreamer to me was location and the cinematography. :yes: It came out when we were in the planning stage of moving here.

My favorite will always be Phar Lap, although I never watch the end anymore. The slow motion shots of the workout where he figures out running always gives me goosebumps.

As far as not sticking to a story based on another story, the latest Flicka comes to mind... omg. Why even bother to name it Flicka?:rolleyes:

riverbell93
Mar. 4, 2008, 11:14 AM
"Champions" is also available on Netflix, which is how I just watched it. What is it with horse movies that 99% of them have these long, goony stretches where a horse gallops in slow-mo to bad music? At least most of these are low-budget, but the very high-profile mess "Seabiscuit" did the same thing. Bleh. Anyone see the bizarre old faux-documentary about Seabiscuit that his owner did? I loved the scene where a guy aproaches a barn, supposedly in KY, where the baby Seabiscuit has just been born, and it's extremely clear that said barn is in California.

For related movies - The Heist. It's a caper movie from 1989 that centers on a racetrack. It starred Pierce Brosnan and was pretty good.

And to broaden it out to TV - does anyone watch that show Wildfire on ABC Family? I've seen promos for it, but it looks unbearable.

WhiteCamry
Mar. 4, 2008, 11:37 AM
Like any list the author's selections can be debated, however there is at least one film I've never seen on this list: 1956's "The Killing" and 1978's "Casey's Shadow"

(as spied by Equidaily.com)

Bill Christine (LA Times) "Top 10 horse-racing movies of all-time" (http://www.horseraceinsider.com/blog.php/west-coast-wash/comments/lets-go-to-the-movies/#comments)


Bill Christine repeats the oft-remarked bit about King Charles, who played The Pie, being either a son or grandson of Man O'War.

Does anyone have info on King Charles' exact pedigree?

SleepyFox
Mar. 4, 2008, 11:44 AM
Thanks for posting the list - there are several I need to check out. I know I saw Champions, but I don't remember it - must try to find it.

I've always liked Casey's Shadow. I thought Walter Matheau (sp?) did an excellent job and they really captured the bet-the-grocery-money attitude well. On the other hand, Dreamer - which I have to admit was better than I thought, but I had LOW expectations - drove me nuts with the typical Hollywood portrayal of "poor horse people" - the old, but in-perfect-condition truck and trailer, the gorgeous home and barn with just slightly peeling paint, etc. Gag! I find dished piled in the bathtub a la Casey's Shadow a lot more believable! (Does that mean I need to start running with a higher class of horse people?):lol:

Kytzeke, that's very cool about the church and other memories!

Pinkdiamond, also very cool about working on Dreamer!

We have such an interesting group of people on here. :)

WhiteCamry
Mar. 4, 2008, 12:09 PM
Other honorable mentions:

Saratoga - Clark Gable and Jean Harlow in her last movie. She's a daughter of a breeder who's engaged to some rich dork because the farm's fallen on hard times. Needless to say, she falls in love with a roguish but lovable bookie.

Broadway Melody of 1938 - Judy Garland sings in yet another one of her "Hey, gang! Let's put on a show" movies from the '30s. Could also be called "Everything and the Horse," which should be a title if it isn't already. 6-foot-3 Buddy Ebsen plays a steeplechase jockey trying to win money to keep the horse and put on a show.

Thoroughbreds Don't Cry - Judy sings again. Mickey Rooney rides the horse. Sophie Tucker doesn't.

Hidalgo - One for the endurance set. You know how it was greenlighted - Seabiscuit meets Lawrence of Arabia. Should have been more interesting. Wouldn't turn it off if I surfed into it, though.

Racing Stripes - Zebra colt wants to race. Children's fare, one-dimensional, hokey but what the hell?

Black Beauty - Not a racing movie but hello? It's Black Beauty!

Glimmerglass
Mar. 4, 2008, 12:11 PM
Bill Christine repeats the oft-remarked bit about King Charles, who played The Pie, being either a son or grandson of Man O'War.

"Hollywood Horses" (http://www.animalcomp.com/archives/horses/HorsesmMotivation.html)


Elizabeth Taylor may have been a budding beauty in 1944, but all eyes were on a black thoroughbred, named King Charles, in the MGM flick National Velvet. Taylor was 11 years old when she made the film, which also starred Mickey Rooney. But the real headline grabber was the lead horse in the movie, called The Pie, played by King Charles.

Why all the fuss over the lead horse? Well, King Charles was the grandson of racing legend Man O’ War, and many bought tickets just to see him in the film. Taylor and King Charles became very close during the filming, and the movie’s producer, Pandro S. Berman, gave the horse to the young child star after the film was completed. That was King Charles’ only movie appearance.

If anyone can track down this out of print book Elizabeth Taylor: "Nibbles and Me" (1946) (http://www.amazon.com/Elizabeth-Taylors-Nibbles-Me-Taylor/dp/0689853343) - written by her when she was 14 - is talks about King Charles.


Recounted here are such stories as the happiest birthday of her life, when she was given King Charles, the horse who was called The Pi in National Velvet, because only Elizabeth could ride him.

National Velvet memories (http://horsefame.tripod.com/1Nvelvet.html)


His real name was King Charles a seven year old thoroughbred - a red sorrel with a white stripe on his face and white socks in all for feet. The Rivera Country Club in West Los Angeles, California was where King Charles and Elizabeth first met. This horse was owned by a society woman and trained as a show hunter and jumper. The owner offered King Charles for Elizabeth to ride and she grew fond of the horse and eventually became the equine star of the National Velvet movie. King Charles is the grandson of Man O War .

Glimmerglass
Mar. 4, 2008, 12:24 PM
As you can see from my prior posting on King Charles and National Velvet at least two of the websites are in conflict on what KC looked like let alone who his grand-sire was ;)

Bill Christine responded to a few people asking about omitting "Let It Ride" (http://www.horseraceinsider.com/blog.php/west-coast-wash/comments/lets-go-to-the-movies/#comments)


“Let It Ride” was on my also-eligible list. It’s based on a novel by Jay Cronley, who writes a horse-racing column on the Internet. I loved the line in a bar where Richard Dreyfuss is hitting on Jennifer Tilly and finds out that she’s, I think, only 17. “Seventeen?” Dreyfuss says. “I’ve got a dog older than that.”

Back stories on “Let It Ride”: Nancy Dowd, the screenwriter (she also wrote “Slap Shot”) had her name removed from the credits. Also, Jay Cronley, who wrote the novel that led to the film, told me that the funniest scene ended up on the cutting-room floor. The movie was to start with Dreyfuss, trying for the cure, speaking to a Gamblers’ Anonymous meeting, when robbers come in and rob everybody. Dreyfuss, figuring there’s no moral to this, heads back to the track. Cronley, whose book was centered around Oaklawn Park, not Hialeah, said the scene was hilarious, but the film ran long and something had to go. Maybe next time “Ride” will crash the list.


“Boots Malone” (1952) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0044437/) was on my also-eligible list. It’s usually not listed in William Holden’s oeuve, but he’s seldom been better. Also for a horse movie to focus on a jockey agent makes it a picture ahead of its time.

WhiteCamry
Mar. 5, 2008, 01:39 PM
Glory (http://imdb.com/title/tt0049268/) - Filmed on location at Calumet Farm. Includes the actual 1955 KD footage - Swaps over Nashua.

horselips
Mar. 5, 2008, 07:01 PM
Let's see.. when I was a child I remember a b&w movie titled Wall Of Noise. I think with Tyrone Power.

And a couple other very old ones, Pride Of The BlueGrass,
and The Return Of October.

Not saying they were all that great, but that's all there was ;)

MIsMyName
Mar. 5, 2008, 07:52 PM
Shergar - 1999

Shergar is based on the true story of a champion race horse, abducted by IRA terrorists, then rescued by an orphaned boy.

also ...

The Derby Stallion (with Zach Efron)

WhiteCamry
Mar. 11, 2008, 02:51 PM
Before I left for work this morning on TCM I caught the first 30 minutes of Keep 'Em Rolling (http://imdb.com/title/tt0025342/), from 1934. It was the usual boy-and-his-horse schtick except that the boy was Walter Huston as a grizzled WW1 soldier who lost and won back his stripes every week or so, and the horse was an artillery horse named Rodney. It had a hokey scene bit where the major orders the combat-injured Rodney shot instead of saved but our plucky hero stands up to him, saying what a hero Rodney is for pulling that howitzer through the shelling all by his lonesome. It also had an interesting early scene with Huston exercising Rodney just like you'd see at any other farm.

Glimmerglass
Mar. 11, 2008, 03:39 PM
Shergar - 1999

Shergar is based on the true story of a champion race horse, abducted by IRA terrorists, then rescued by an orphaned boy.

Egads - let's not mention that is the context of the top 10 [best] list or else we're apt to see Jeff Bridges turkey of a movie - Simpatico (http://imdb.com/title/tt0174204/).

sporthorsefilly
Mar. 11, 2008, 03:54 PM
In addition to "Kentucky,"
what about "Maryland"
and the "Homestretch."

By the way both Kentucky and Maryland were produced by Gene Markey...who eventually became Mr. Calumet Farms!

As a child, I watched Cornell Wilde and Maureen O'Hara in the Homestretch so many times, I think I could recite the lines! the ending is adorable they go back to the breeding farm in Maryland and live happily ever after...guess that part sunk in really well :)

Kimberlee
Mar. 11, 2008, 04:26 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sHp_vHofvY

Here is 40 seconds of another "Grand National" courtesy of youtube.

- or this one - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfocQfCL5io

NMK
Mar. 18, 2008, 10:05 AM
Well, hubby and I went to see this at the Cleveland Film Festival. It made both of us laugh, and both of us cry (which is not easy for the SO). It is a wonderfully paced, thrilling, and hilarious ride. It gets four hooves up and it got a standing ovation in Cleveland, which it deserved.

It goes to the very top of my movie list, period, let alone a horse movie.

Nancy

Glimmerglass
Mar. 18, 2008, 11:17 AM
It goes to the very top of my movie list, period, let alone a horse movie.

Good to hear about that with First Saturday in May!

In the realm of documentaries there are others like

On The Muscle: Portait of a Thoroughbred Racing Stable (http://www.ponyhighway.com/otm.shtml) - shot in 2001/2002 and released in 2005 featuring a "young" The Tin Man :)

Laffit:All About Winning (http://www.laffit.net/movie_trailer.html) - narrated by Kevin Costner

Alagirl
Mar. 18, 2008, 01:27 PM
I just can't believe that Let it Ride (http://imdb.com/title/tt0097731/) isn't on that list....


HAHAHAHAHA:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

NMK
Mar. 18, 2008, 01:59 PM
There are so many great moments in The First Saturday In May, I would not know where to begin. I do not want to spoil it for anyone. Suffice it to say the trainers are as diverse as the colors of horses running that year. And some of the comments from their families and children are priceless.

If you get a chance, see it on the big screen. It will be well worth it.

Nancy

snbess
Mar. 18, 2008, 03:18 PM
Casey's Shadow-- saw it in the theater when I was about seven. It still is one of my favorites, and I wish I had it on DVD. Other than that, I would have to say Phar Lap--what a tearjerker

Hey, me too! I was on vacation somewhere and we did that because it was raining out. I'm sure I would think it was cheezy now, but it was great then!
Sandra

LKF
Mar. 18, 2008, 03:20 PM
Hollywood Type of Racing films:
Phar Lap
Ruffian
Black Stallion
Seabiscuit

Wellspotted
Mar. 18, 2008, 03:35 PM
National Velvet
Champions

Glimmerglass
Mar. 19, 2008, 01:44 PM
Re: First Saturday in May documentary and theater release/distribution (http://tcm.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=44143) ...


Churchill Downs Inc. has partnered with Truly Indie and filmmakers John and Brad Hennegan to distribute their award-winning documentary "The First Saturday in May" to U.S. theaters for a week-long national run in 18 major markets starting April 18. A special one-night Louisville premiere is scheduled for April 13 at the Louisville Palace Theatre.

MIKES MCS
Mar. 19, 2008, 03:42 PM
I love all those movies but what still can bring tears to my eyes is the you tube 73 belmont where Secretariat takes the triple crown. when the announcer says he is runnibg like a tremendous machibe I lose it.

Hi don't mean to intrude , just lurking over from the Hunter Jumper threads... Had to comment.. I WILL NEVER FORGET THAT RACE .... My Heart didn't beat, I didn't Breath , the whole world stood still and he just kept cruising and cruising and cruising, it was if there was no other horse out there with him .. Will thier ever be another horse like him.. I don't think so.

gwenrowdy
Mar. 20, 2008, 10:15 AM
Here's a list to pick and choose from:

http://www.horse-races.net/library/list-movies.htm

Glimmerglass
Mar. 27, 2008, 01:39 PM
First Saturday in May documentary and theater release/distribution (http://tcm.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=44143) ...

One of the Hennegan brothers was on a radio call in program and he said that while the movie release is slated for just one week the film will stay in theaters if the box office receipts are good enough to stay longer.

Worth noting is that Lexington KY will have the movie aired there ( www.kentuckytheater.com ) starting April 18th so hopefully if it stays a bit longer they might get some uplift from Keeneland and Rolex 3-Day.

Luckily for me it will be shown in Chicago in a theater not too far away :)

Official list of theaters to air the movie (http://www.thefirstsaturdayinmay.com/2008/03/11/opening-in-a-city-near-you/)

With the DVD they will start taking orders just prior to the Kentucky Derby and ship them out a couple weeks after the first Saturday in May. So you'd get a copy before the Belmont Stakes.

NMK
Mar. 28, 2008, 11:37 AM
Glimmer and others, if you can, see this movie on a big screen. I had forgotten how absolutely stunning some of these colts are, Lawyer Ron in particular. But rememer the movie is just as much about the people in the horse's lives as it is the horses themselves. But oh, on the big screen they are spectacular.

Enjoy
NMK

DLee
Mar. 28, 2008, 01:23 PM
I am glad to see it is going to play here! I had looked at the site and they didn't mention us yet. Plus I love that old movie theatre.

Larksmom
Mar. 28, 2008, 01:39 PM
I'm kind of shocked that the Black Stallion is below some of the others. For artistic purposes and glorious pan shots alone it should be higher up, not to mention that lump in my throat I always get during the final race!

Casey's Shadow biased me against white footed horses, LOL. Every time I see one, particularly a chestnut, I hear Walter Mathau singsonging "4 white socks cut off its nose and feed it to the crows...."

Phar Lap. So sad. Seabiscuit, National Velvet and A Day at the Races are all great (I like old movies). Champions is awesome if not a bit, well, British. I have the Aldaniti race on DVD and it's awesome.

Let it Ride should be on the list!

I have never seen Let it ride, but The Black Stallion has the BEST racing racing even on screen. And Champions is awesome. I have that on vhs.

Larksmom
Mar. 28, 2008, 02:02 PM
I love all those movies but what still can bring tears to my eyes is the you tube 73 belmont where Secretariat takes the triple crown. when the announcer says he is runnibg like a tremendous machibe I lose it.

My niece, who was the same age as my late great Dr. Pepper, was born at the end of April in 1973. I have often thought about her being less than two weeks old when Secretariat began his Triple Crown roll. I agree it makes me tear up when I hear it. I watched it all on tv and to prove I couldn't pick a winner in a two horse race, my horse was Sham!!! [course I wan't a bit disappointed!!!!] I don't think anyone will ever beat his time, do you?

Lcsd114
Mar. 28, 2008, 11:39 PM
"Champions" is my favorite horse racing movie ever. I cannot watch it without bawling my eyes out when Bob Champion and Aldaniti are leading. Through my tears, I'm yelling at the screen for them to keep going, even though I've seen it dozens of times and I saw the race on the day.
In fact, it was that race that led me to fall in love with the Grand National. I was 6 years old and my parents and I were watching the race. When it was coming to the conclusion, we were all in tears. My parents because they had followed the story and me because the horse I'd chosen, Royal Mail, wasn't going to win!!!!:lol: It was only later that I read about Bob Champion and saw the movie.

Jane
Mar. 29, 2008, 02:21 AM
I saw First Saturday in May when it premiered at the Tribeca Film Fest in NYC last summer, I can't remember if I posted about it here, but it was an extremely well made piece of work, it surpassed my expectations in many ways -- being it was a documentary based on horse racing at one of the top film festivals in the country, I was really surprised to find out that all shows were sold out, not only was every seat in the theatre filled, there were a long line of people who had been waiting in line patiently hoping to get tickets the day of the showing were turned away.

The Hennegan brothers are really cool, awsome guys. They have such a passion for horses and the sport, all very evident in the film; it's really nice to see how this is all turning out for them. I also thought the way they handled the closing of the film, regarding Barbaro, was pure class, just as what they're doing with 25% of the box office the opening week -- donating to equine research.

Fred
Mar. 29, 2008, 08:30 AM
"Champions" is my favorite horse racing movie ever. I cannot watch it without bawling my eyes out when Bob Champion and Aldaniti are leading. Through my tears, I'm yelling at the screen for them to keep going, even though I've seen it dozens of times and I saw the race on the day.
In fact, it was that race that led me to fall in love with the Grand National. I was 6 years old and my parents and I were watching the race. When it was coming to the conclusion, we were all in tears. My parents because they had followed the story and me because the horse I'd chosen, Royal Mail, wasn't going to win!!!!:lol: It was only later that I read about Bob Champion and saw the movie.

I'm with you and the others on Champions. I stand up screaming and crying, urging him on. every time. It's a beautifully done film, the opening scenes of the horses galloping has me crying right from the start. The fact that it is actually the incredible Aldaniti himself makes it even more special. That's HIM!
My sister had just died of cancer when the film came out, and it made it more poignant and painful at the time.

I love National Velvet, loved The Black Stallion - in all of these horse movies there has to be 'willing suspension of disbelief' - but it doesn't make them any less moving or meaningful.
When little Elizabeth Taylor is telling her dad why she won't send Pie to the US " when I asked him, he broke his heart for me"... I just bawl. It was also a very powerful wartime movie, showing the strength, courage and determination of the Brits - against the odds.


Seabiscuit too was beautifully done. Very evocative of the times, not just sentimental, but gave a real idea of the importance that horse had in the lives of so many people.

I can't watch Pharlap, more than the once. I hate it when the horse dies, or when you know what is going to happen.

Secretariat's Belmont stretch run? always incredible, amazing. I stand and stare and hold my breath the whole time, and of course cry my eyes out.

thanks for posting the list, it makes for a fun discussion. I'm all tearful now, thinking of these wonderful movies.

Romany
Apr. 1, 2008, 06:15 PM
Is Seabiscuit not a bit American, or Phar Lap not a bit Australian? Lads, good racing is good racing.

Champions is head and shoulders above the others on the list. Well acted, with one of the leading actors of his generation, John Hurt, as the main actor. The horse footage is second to none, some of the cinematography of the horses on the gallops at Lambourn is gorgeous, and the racing and training scenes are the real deal. Plus, Aldaniti got to play himself in the movie.

Here's the race that inspired (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mCBxtcNqZE) the film. I saw a pub full of grown men choking back tears that day, a very emotional race. BTW, the 2nd placed horse/rider were an inspiring story of their own. Spartan Missile was owned-bred-trained AND ridden by 54 year old John Thorne. He also had bred the dam, Polaris Missile, who herself had ran in the National, ridden by Thorne's son. Thorne sadly died in a fall several months later.

Drvmb1ggl3 - thanks so much for posting the Youtube link to Aldaniti's Grand National - (although it only shows the first half of the race, still worth watching).

The Grand National is less than a week away!

http://www.aintree.co.uk/pages/grand-national/

halo
Apr. 1, 2008, 09:28 PM
I adore The Black Stallion to this day, and can put the DVD and watch it anytime....even at my...ehem....age. And Champions....guaranteed to make me cry, even tho Ive seen it dozens and dozens of times. Just the fact that it is the real Aldiniti makes it special. First time I saw it, I was so smitten by the movie; but the ending, and the little blurb at the end just before or after the credits...I forget.....makes me bawl every time I read it. Im such a sucker.

Casey's Shadow, I just loved. Not as perfect as The Black Stallion and Champions, but a great story, with a great cast, and a gorgeous horse.

Phar Lap was terrific, too, as was Seabiscuit. All movies I can watch any time.

WhiteCamry
Apr. 2, 2008, 01:19 PM
Drvmb1ggl3 - thanks so much for posting the Youtube link to Aldaniti's Grand National - (although it only shows the first half of the race, still worth watching).

Better look at Drvmb1ggl3's link again. I just watched the whole race.

Glimmerglass
Apr. 3, 2008, 08:59 PM
The BloodHorse 'Talkin Horses' did a Q&A with the Hennegan Bros. (First Saturday In May) today - it wasn't spectacular (they seem to be a bit too apt to kid around) but a few things are cited regarding them and the film:

Apr 3, 2008 "John & Brad Hennegan Directors, Producers and Writers" (http://www.bloodhorse.com/talkinhorses/HB040308.asp)

Excerpt


I had never spent so much time with horses to really see their individual personalities. Jazil was very laid back and almost like a family’s golden retriever. Brother Derek was a mean SOB and would bite you if he had the chance. Barbaro was really inquisitive and he always wanted to run.

NMK
Apr. 4, 2008, 03:52 PM
The golf scene is priceless in that film. Straight out of Caddyshack with a twist of..not bourbon.

Nancy

Glimmerglass
Apr. 8, 2008, 06:18 PM
I was looking up another topic and came across this reference to the filly Hallowed Dreams, who currently is tied for the modern-day North American record of 16-victories in a row, and was owned by the man who was the inspiration for Casey's Shadow: Sports Illustrated 7-24-00 "Hallowed Be Thy Name" (http://vault.sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1019778/index.htm)

Excerpt:


Last Saturday in the 11th race at tiny Louisiana Downs near Shreveport, the hearts of 7,123 spectators stopped for 1:09[4/5] while a dark bay filly named Hallowed Dreams covered six furlongs. The three-length victory was the undefeated 3-year-old's 16th straight, tying the modern American record set by Citation in 1950 and equaled 46 years later by Cigar. "Hallowed Dreams and I are true Cajuns," said Lloyd Romero, her trainer and co-owner. "We've brought the record to Louisiana for the Louisiana people."

Romero is the screwiest of the cast of screwballs surrounding Hallowed Dreams. The bluff, gruff onetime state trooper is best known as the father of jockey Randy Romero, who made his name with the great Personal Ensign. That filly retired in 1988 at 13-0, a distaff standard Hallowed Dreams surpassed on June 3 in a $30,000 handicap at Evangeline Downs.

As stubborn as a talking mule, Lloyd refuses to race Hallowed Dreams in a graded stakes or outside Louisiana. "If horses from other states want to challenge mine, they can come here," he says. "Last I checked, planes flew in both directions."

In fact, no Romero nag has left Louisiana since 1975, the year he took his unbeaten quarter horse, Rocket's Magic, to New Mexico for the Ail-American Futurity. With 16-year-old Randy in the saddle, the 2-1 favorite finished third. Two months later, Rocket's Magic broke down and had to be destroyed.

The sad tale inspired the 1978 movie Casey's Shadow, in which the character based on Lloyd was played by that old railbird Walter Matthau, who died on July 1. "Walter probably looked down excitedly on Hallowed Dreams today," Romero said after her victory on Saturday. "If an angel can pee in his pants, Walter probably did."

Dispatcher
Apr. 9, 2008, 07:46 AM
I just received my copy of Champions. Can't wait to watch it!

asanders
Apr. 12, 2008, 10:35 PM
How can Dreamer not be on this list??? I am outraged!! Just kidding, that movie made me want to gouge my eyeballs out, I thought racing stripes was more realistic! I remember Casey's Shadow vaguely, that was a good one.

LOL!!

Glimmerglass
Apr. 17, 2008, 11:59 AM
One of the "also mentioned" films from the original Top 10 was Boots Malone from 1952 staring the late Bill Holden (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boots_Malone) as the jockey agent. It was aired on Turner Network Classic this morning (4-17) and will be again Wednesday, April 30,2008 6:00 PM EST (http://www.tcm.com/thismonth/article.jsp?cid=177605&mainArticleId=161065)


"Even people who don't know a mare from a gelding will find the racing lore entertaining," declared The New Yorker in its review of Boots Malone (1952). The New York Times observed that "the rough assortment of horse trainers, jockeys, agents, touts and granite-faced track employees forms a sharp and amusing caboodle. It is loaded with details of jockey-training and other track techniques, all shot in actual horse parks."

Those are good notices for a movie that is today essentially forgotten. Boots Malone was, in a sense, "forgotten" even at the time of its release. Producer Milton Holmes sued Columbia Pictures for $1 million for not publicizing and distributing the film according to the contract. He claimed that Columbia spent less than 5% of the customary amount to publicize it, that small houses were used for first-run bookings, and that the studio released the picture too late to qualify for Oscar consideration, even though they had told him it was potential Oscar material.

Larksmom
Apr. 25, 2008, 06:17 PM
Casey's Shadow is schedualed on Sat 7:00am central time. oh! on TCM. I haven't seen it for twenty years but I know I liked it alot. I am taping as there are no commercials on TCM.

WhiteCamry
Apr. 29, 2008, 10:12 AM
Casey's Shadow is schedualed on Sat 7:00am central time. oh! on TCM. I haven't seen it for twenty years but I know I liked it alot. I am taping as there are no commercials on TCM.

Why not just buy a tape or DVD?