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warmbloodzrock
Jan. 16, 2008, 05:05 PM
I know this is a HUGE question but just curious to see which stallion some of you would consider to be the textbook definition of the perfect (or as close as it comes) sport horse stallion. Which stallion do you all consider to be the best at passing on the following qualities to their offspring....

-Temperament, spirit, willingness
-Conformation
-Movement
-Jumping ability
-Overall Athletic Ability

Please also take in to consideration the quality of sperm and the best at "swimming efficiently" :lol: when it comes to the stallion who has your vote.

Renae
Jan. 16, 2008, 05:07 PM
I think sport horse is too broad of a term for your query. Are you talking about dressage horses, hunters, jumpers, eventers, carriage driving horses, endurance horses, reining horses? They could all be called sport horses, and all have different specialized needs.

pwynnnorman
Jan. 16, 2008, 05:20 PM
Oh, that's easy. His name is Mine. :winkgrin:

showjumpers66
Jan. 16, 2008, 05:32 PM
Capitol I or Quidam de Revel and preferrably a combination of both

holsteinersrock
Jan. 16, 2008, 05:48 PM
Contender.

See http://www.holsteiner-verband.de/cms/front_content.php?client=1&lang=2&parent=8&subid=8&idcat=32&idart=198

To my knowledge he is not available per frozen semen in US, unless somebody has it in a bank vault..???

His relatives are available. Go to holsteiner.com and follow links.

Cassini I and II are other favorites, but this is more towards the hunter jumper market, did you notice Cunningham is offered at the AHHA auction? http://www.ewarmbloods.net/AHHA/stallions.php#cunningham

Anna

talloaks
Jan. 16, 2008, 07:20 PM
Sandro Hit :winkgrin:

Cartier
Jan. 17, 2008, 09:48 AM
Oh, that's easy. His name is Mine. :winkgrin:
ABSOLUTELY!!!

It so depends on the breeding goal and what the specific mare - stallion combination produces. Contender’s kids have been very impressive in performance. I doubt you’ll be disappointed with one under saddle. At some point in the future, we'd breed again to a C line stallion in a heart beat. Sandro Hit has been an inpressive producer, he makes beautiful, marketable babies, hard to take you eyes off of ‘em. Our Sandro Hit 2005 - Sandro D seems to be taking forever to mature. He’s not yet backed, so can’t say much more, except that he is an absolute teddy bear.

Fairview Horse Center
Jan. 17, 2008, 10:19 AM
If I use all of your criteria for Dressage, but also with good jumping ability, and add in marketability, I would have to go with Olivier (and I personally do hope to this spring for Nevada's mom :winkgrin: ). He is a high profile boy that has it all IMO, and I would not trade a breeding to him for any other (living) stallion in the world.

europa
Jan. 17, 2008, 12:13 PM
Salieri (himself a grand prix jumper) sire of the #1 dressage horse Salinero and also of Seven-up (grand prix jumper)..........basically that says it all for me if you can produce a jumper and dressage horse both at olympic level.

Arko III for sheer jumpability.

Argentinus isn't too shabby either.

IMHO

Fairview Horse Center
Jan. 17, 2008, 01:20 PM
Salieri (himself a grand prix jumper) sire of the #1 dressage horse Salinero and also of Seven-up (grand prix jumper)..........basically that says it all for me if you can produce a jumper and dressage horse both at olympic level.

aaahhh, but both were out of Luna :yes: :winkgrin: She could certainly eat hay in my barn - even at these prices. :D

EquineLVR
Jan. 17, 2008, 02:30 PM
Darco
Calido I
Burggraaf
Voltaire
Acord II
For Pleasure
Rio Grande
Baloubet du Rouet

Really truly depends on your mare.. There are many great stallions.

YankeeLawyer
Jan. 17, 2008, 04:09 PM
aaahhh, but both were out of Luna :yes: :winkgrin: She could certainly eat hay in my barn - even at these prices. :D

My thought exactly. You have to consider that Lungau damline, that also produced Brentina and Barclay II, who were both at Athens also.

I think the OP's question is hard to answer. The best sporthorse stallion is the one that is the best match for a particular mare. I can list a number that I love, but whether I would use them depends wholly on the mare in question.

Home Again Farm
Jan. 17, 2008, 06:08 PM
I think the OP's question is hard to answer. The best sporthorse stallion is the one that is the best match for a particular mare. I can list a number that I love, but whether I would use them depends wholly on the mare in question.

That is precisely what I was thinking. :winkgrin:

krfarms
Jan. 18, 2008, 02:27 PM
any stallion that gets your mare in foal, produces the "best" mix possible, and the resulting foal is not accident prone and survives until he/she is 3 to start training!!!!!

Blonde Filly
Jan. 18, 2008, 02:41 PM
Oh, that's easy. His name is Mine. :winkgrin:

PERFECT ANSWER!!!:D

not again
Jan. 18, 2008, 07:45 PM
Let's see...
1. gets all mares pregnant on one cover.
2. all foals are perfect in conformation, color and gender.
3. all foals are all born knowing how to do everything their future rider wants.
4. all foals never need vet or farrier.
5. all foals never try to get loose, pitch trailer fits, or break blankets or equipment.
There have to be more....:)

maple_brook
Jan. 19, 2008, 10:25 AM
My thought exactly. You have to consider that Lungau damline, that also produced Brentina and Barclay II, who were both at Athens also.

I think the OP's question is hard to answer. The best sporthorse stallion is the one that is the best match for a particular mare. I can list a number that I love, but whether I would use them depends wholly on the mare in question.

I was thinking Lungau too. He appears as the dam sire in soo many really nice top competition horses.

And absolutely have to agree that you just simple can't pick just one. There are many great stallions who have contributed to the sport horse world. The list is a long one for sure!

RonaldGroen
Jan. 19, 2008, 02:00 PM
Jazz

Fairview Horse Center
Jan. 19, 2008, 05:32 PM
I was thinking Lungau too. He appears as the dam sire in soo many really nice top competition horses.

Letkiss is by Lungau, and his daughters are very good producers. He has been very under used.

FMulder
Jan. 20, 2008, 02:02 PM
That's an unanswerable question. You can only go on what a stallion has produced. In jumpers there is only one - Quidam de Revel, who is untouched by any other stallion other than his closest rival Darco. These two are head and shoulders above the rest.

Ghazzu
Jan. 20, 2008, 02:05 PM
Darco


Really truly depends on your mare.. There are many great stallions.

Gotta agree with that.

Quazzle
Jan. 22, 2008, 06:57 AM
That's an unanswerable question. You can only go on what a stallion has produced. In jumpers there is only one - Quidam de Revel, who is untouched by any other stallion other than his closest rival Darco. These two are head and shoulders above the rest.

I completely agree, however, I think a stallion should 'suit' a mare to have good results.It's also about the 'match' between the stallion and the mare. A high quality mare, like Opaline des Pins, mother of Quintus, Jus de Pommes, Tresor d'opaline, can also produce champions with any stallion.
Personally I am a huge fan of Contender, Silvio I and Chin Chin.

okggo
Jan. 22, 2008, 08:33 AM
Let's see...
4. all foals never need vet or farrier.
....:)

Ok, having put my share of vet's children through college with vet bills, I'd jump on that band wagon FOR SURE!! Routine farrier/vet no problem, but you find a stallion with a NO INJURY guarantee on its offspring....sighs...

Seriously, I can't think of a best. I guess I'll go with King of Diamonds...