Capitol line -- stallion temperament/mind?

[veebug22]

Are there any disposition stereotypes for stallions/offspring in the Capitol line? Any stallions from this line that are known for having particularly good temperaments/minds? I'm absolutely smitten with Cassini II. Has anyone known any of his babies?

[camohn]

The only one I met personally was a CapitAl with an A
http://www.suesiscosunfield.com/stallion.php
And this one is a lovely tempered jumper stallion

[fish]

There was a thread a few months ago which provided links to a couple very good articles on Capitol I. Both of them emphasized the rideability/excellent disposition he possessed and passed on, in addition to marvelous jumping talent.

[Hillside H Ranch]

A mare that I own now had a Cassini II filly in 2006. She was a sweet baby and easy to work with (but a BIG, tall girl)!

Most of the Capitol sons I'm familiar with are reputed to have good temperaments; I love the line!

[spacely]

Here is the thread.

http://www.chronicleforums.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=118786

[showjumpers66]

Quiet and rideable :)

[ShowjumpersUSA]

The Capitol I temperament is legendary. Campesino is the only direct son of Capitol I standing in NA who is approved and licensed to breed with the Holsteiner Verband. His babies are fantastic! One of his babies was the highest scoring foal in North America on the RPSI approvals tour for 2007. He's the sire of several international showjumpers. One, Carlos Boy, was ranked by the WBFSH 25th in the world.

Campesino wasn't at stud in Germany for very long, but his few European born foals have grown up to be spectacular. Most of his American born foals have been premium.

Capitol I's are all famous for their work ethic and sensible temperament. Campesino is a grand old man at 18 years old. I have a recent video of him on my website Scrapbook page. A history of Capitol I is on the Reference Sires page.

Cassini II is also a great choice. All of the Capitol I sons are great choices. It just depends on whether you want fresh or frozen semen. Karen Reid of Foxfire Farm has the verband frozen of three or four Capitol I sons who are all approved and licensed with the Verband.

Bonnie

[mmt]

The temperament is amazing on the majority of these horses. I had an unapproved son of Carolus that I rode in dressage (although he was an amazing jumper). He was a teddy bear with a great work ethic. You can see the difference in temperaments of that line with others even in two and a half year old stallions that come through the licensing.

Furthermore, if I was to ever get a stallion to try to do the jumpers, I would actively look for a Capitol line just because of the temperament and scope.

[veebug22]

Thanks very much guys, very informative and helpful! Much appreciated.

[Oakstable]

So which stallions have Capitol top OR bottom?

Are they all grey?

[raffey1]

Campesino, Bratt z (damsire) , Indoctro, cassini I and II, Cathalido (back 3 generations), con Caletto (back 3) , Contagious (back2), corrado (damsire), Landstreicher (damsire), Lavita (damsire), Lord capitol (actually, his mom is Capitol's full sister), Chesapeak (back 3),Carvallo (back2)
They are not all grey, but frequently are (Indoctro is a direct son and is bay)

[ShowjumpersUSA]

So which stallions have Capitol top OR bottom?

Are they all grey?

The only "Reinzucht" son of Capitol I who is standing in North America, is Campesino. The special designation of "Reinsucht" is reserved for those few stallions in North America who were not only approved in Germany by the Holsteiner Verband, but were also 100 day tested and licensed to breed by the HV.

Campesino is out of a Sacramento Song mother, who is considered by many to be a "blue hen" in Holsteiner breeding.

[fish]

Campesino, Bratt z (damsire) , Indoctro, cassini I and II, Cathalido (back 3 generations), con Caletto (back 3) , Contagious (back2), corrado (damsire), Landstreicher (damsire), Lavita (damsire), Lord capitol (actually, his mom is Capitol's full sister), Chesapeak (back 3),Carvallo (back2)
They are not all grey, but frequently are (Indoctro is a direct son and is bay)

Add to these Cunningham (by Cassini I, by Capitol I, and out of a Contender mare), Czechmate (by Carthago, by Capitol I), Cascani (by Cassini I) and Torino (out of a Cassini I mare). I believe these are all grey, but the two Cunningham babies born here (out of 2 different mares) have both been bay.

[Hillside H Ranch]

The only "Reinzucht" son of Capitol I who is standing in North America, is Campesino. The special designation of "Reinsucht" is reserved for those few stallions in North America who were not only approved in Germany by the Holsteiner Verband, but were also 100 day tested and licensed to breed by the HV.

Campesino is out of a Sacramento Song mother, who is considered by many to be a "blue hen" in Holsteiner breeding.

Campesino is another stallion here in the US who, IMHO, doesn't get used enough. I love the Capitol line so much that I'm expecting a Campesino baby this year, as well as two Indoctro babies!

[ShowjumpersUSA]

Campesino is another stallion here in the US who, IMHO, doesn't get used enough. I love the Capitol line so much that I'm expecting a Campesino baby this year, as well as two Indoctro babies!

Thanks for your kind words, HHR.

Actually, probably because of my own philosophy about breeding and my stallion in particular, he doesn't get as many breedings as he could or should (in some people's estimation). I limit his breeding to only those mares I believe will have the best chance of producing a top notch sport horse. I do this because he's older, has already proven himself and has such special bloodlines, I don't want to mess up his legacy by letting him breed to the wrong mares.

We've done something kind of interesting this year, though. To help grow the nonprofit American Holsteiner Horse Association (AHHA) and to put good Holsteiner foals on the ground here in the US, we have given free breedings to all mares coming into the AHHA in 2007 and 2008. By all mares I mean all A, Q, and Holsteiner stamm mares. The breedings are good for one year after the mare is approved and there are only three stipulations:

1. The mare has to be new to the AHHA

2. The mare must have approval scores of 45 points or higher

3. Mare owner pays all collection and shipping fees. Booking and stud fees are waived.

[ponygirl]

I just have to clarifiy the Reinzucht designation so folks don't think it's only reserved for stallions. A precondition of this designation is that both parents of the horse are breeding horses inscribed in the Holstein Verband studbook. This means that even American born (german stamm) can be declared Reinzucht if they meet the pre-condition. Also, offspring of the Reinzucht mares are also Reinzucht if the mares are bred to Verband approved and performance tested stallion. So if you guys have a reinzucht mare, Campesino is Reinzucht so resulting foal would also be reinzucht. :)

[EquineLVR]

Thanks for your kind words, HHR.

Actually, probably because of my own philosophy about breeding and my stallion in particular, he doesn't get as many breedings as he could or should (in some people's estimation). I limit his breeding to only those mares I believe will have the best chance of producing a top notch sport horse. I do this because he's older, has already proven himself and has such special bloodlines, I don't want to mess up his legacy by letting him breed to the wrong mares.

We've done something kind of interesting this year, though. To help grow the nonprofit American Holsteiner Horse Association (AHHA) and to put good Holsteiner foals on the ground here in the US, we have given free breedings to all mares coming into the AHHA in 2007 and 2008. By all mares I mean all A, Q, and Holsteiner stamm mares. The breedings are good for one year after the mare is approved and there are only three stipulations:

1. The mare has to be new to the AHHA

2. The mare must have approval scores of 45 points or higher

3. Mare owner pays all collection and shipping fees. Booking and stud fees are waived.

WOW that is AWESOME!! Makes me want to get my mare approved Holsteiner - the funny thing about her is she is registered KWPN but she comes from Holsteiner stamm 6928!!

[ShowjumpersUSA]

WOW that is AWESOME!! Makes me want to get my mare approved Holsteiner - the funny thing about her is she is registered KWPN but she comes from Holsteiner stamm 6928!!

Nice! You really should take her to AHHA. Her mother line has produced some nice stallions including Athletico and Canaletto. She would be a great addition to the AHHA mare book.