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marta
Jan. 8, 2008, 05:44 PM
so since my saddle is coming (yay!!!) i need to get fittings for it. i think i've decided on a mohair girth (this is an ap english saddle). any reason to go with any particular manufacturer? if so, which one?

patti
Jan. 8, 2008, 06:00 PM
I have, um, four mohair string girths from Teddy's business, all with D rings for breast collar attachments.

Two horses, each with two stages of porkiness each year.

Thumbs up from me. I run an endurance ride and Teddy is always generous in supporting us by donating prizes, so I like to support her business.

Good luck.

--Patti

marta
Jan. 8, 2008, 06:04 PM
fleece girth with wool felt backing. thanks for the suggestion.

patti
Jan. 8, 2008, 06:17 PM
... with both dressage and endurance saddles and thus long and short girths and four horses ...

So I actually have two of Teddy's fleece-backed dressage girths as well, one with elastic on both sides, one with no elastic. Super well made and stainless steel fittings so you don't end up with a perfectly useful girth with rusted-out fittings (a pet peeve of mine).

marta
Jan. 8, 2008, 06:56 PM
i see there is wool felt and some other stuff (webbing?).
do they wash well?

patti
Jan. 8, 2008, 06:58 PM
... and yes, they wash great. I throw them in the washer on cold and the gentle cycle and "free" laundry detergent and double rinse. Then I just lay them out to dry. One is about three years old, the other one year old and they look pretty much the same as the day I bought them.

tollertwins
Jan. 8, 2008, 08:35 PM
um....

who's teddy...?

patti
Jan. 8, 2008, 09:14 PM
The owner of Running Bear Farm tack shop.

I think it's www.runningbear.com and no, I don't benefit by giving you the information. I feel a bit like I drank the KoolAid. Just very much like her girths!

Auventera Two
Jan. 8, 2008, 10:52 PM
I have this one:

http://www.saddleuptack.com/webcat/subcat151.htm

That's about the cheapest I've ever found them online. I love the classic black and white stripe. Mohair is the best, from what I've read, so I'm really anxious to start using it.

islandrider
Jan. 8, 2008, 11:04 PM
I'm in love with this one:
http://store.nexternal.com/shared/StoreFront/default.asp?CS=slypner&StoreType=BtoC&Count1=369014918&Count2=286155343&CategoryID=3&Target=products.asp

from Slypneargear.com, the Montana Cincha Endurance Girth. Darn if they didn't raise the price as soon as i got mine and started telling everyone how great it is! I wash it often enough it dries well and fast. The saleslady was right in having me order one a bit smaller than I originally thought as it has stretched a bit. Want a 28, order a 26...I also have the cheaper black and white one, PM me if you are interested. It is also really nice but the buckles seemed to bug my guy more than his endurance contoured one.

marta
Jan. 9, 2008, 10:37 AM
my new saddle is an ap with short billets so i can't use the endurance or dressage length girths. i need the full length english girth. i see them in natural but not in that speckled 'color.' but that's ok. natural will do.

Auventera Two
Jan. 9, 2008, 11:49 AM
I have shopped literally for probably 2 months for a good mohair girth. Unforuntately, most of them are listed as string or cord girths, and are some form of polyester or rayon (as evidenced by their cheap price tag. ;)) I asked questions from endurance riders, and determined that the genuine mohair would be the way to go. The more I use various types of equipment, the more I'm coming to love natural fibers. I've completely given up on polyester fleece and neoprene against the horse or myself. :dead:

I started to become a believe in natural fibers because I have 2 seat savers - one an expensive merino wool, and the other a polyester fleece that was 17 bucks at the local tack shop. The cheap one is comfortable, but not nearly as cushy and energy absorbing as the expensive one, and it slips. Natural fibers naturally have a texture to them that grips. Synethics are slippery. Or so this is the results of my own personal "scientific experiment." :lol:

Dressage Extentions sells a full length German Trevia (spelling?) cord girth that's a little more expensive, but I'm not sure exactly what it's made of.

marta
Jan. 9, 2008, 12:12 PM
thanks!
and i tend to agree. especially in light of some recent discoveries re saddle pad i used to use.
so the new saddle pad will be real fleece or wool felt only.
that girth in dressage extensions is made of synthetic fiber.
i'll go with the montana cinch girth.

tollertwins
Jan. 9, 2008, 02:57 PM
well darn - i ordered a little BIGGER than what i wanted because of no elastic...hole punch, here i come!

Auventera Two
Jan. 9, 2008, 03:00 PM
Well, I've also read that they shrink MAJORLY when you wash them - so I guess it should all even out! :lol:

Marta - this is off topic, but can you elaborate on the saddle pads? I'm in the midst of a saddle pad debacle now. The people on the treeless saddle group really push the skitos, equipedic, haf, etc. I'm sorry but I just don't like the looks of them at all. After having spent $150 on a SMX Air Ride pad by Professionals Choice and found out it was a cheap, crunchy piece of cardboard junk, I'm really skeptical on these "special" pads. I'm trying to be open minded but of everything out there, the thick, heavy Toklat Woolback is appealing to me the most. And of course everyone says it's not suitable for a treeless saddle. I think half the fun of riding is shopping for the stuff. lol

marta
Jan. 9, 2008, 03:42 PM
sent you a pm

tollertwins
Jan. 9, 2008, 08:26 PM
Marta - can you pm me, too? Same issue w/ the pads....

Auventera Two
Jan. 10, 2008, 10:15 AM
I got a chance to ride in the new girth last night. It's definitely a very "short" 24". It's actually closer to 23". Maybe they do that because they know it will stretch??

I really like it. Didn't slip at all, seems well made, and really gripped the horse. I don't care for neoprene, or pvc. This was a nice change.

marta
Jan. 11, 2008, 02:44 PM
over $90 b/c of the length... ouch! it better fit, too, b/c they're not returnable:(

Auventera Two
Jan. 11, 2008, 03:25 PM
Hey, you know what, the more miles I put on, the more ok I am with dropping the dough on stuff that will actually WORK! :lol: I've gotten to the point that I am flat sick and tired of crap that doesn't fit, doesn't work, or is a general PITA. The girht was a lot of $$$ but I really like it so far and am glad I spent it. I hope you like yours too! :yes:

tollertwins
Jan. 11, 2008, 08:18 PM
mine was $90 because i got the endurance cut so that at least the front half fits his natural girth spot....

glad to hear they're working for somebody!! haven't gotten mine yet.

marta
Jan. 11, 2008, 11:20 PM
And got a slightly different one from slypnergear.
They had a much better price and they had it in stock unlike the first place.
$66 with shipping:)

I have not even as much as sat on a horse since november (we've only been ground driving) so this is v exciting.

tollertwins
Jan. 11, 2008, 11:30 PM
Know how you feel....Had a saddle - but lame horse. Retired that horse, got new horse. SADDLE FIT nightmare.... FINALLY got saddle....now it's me that's lame....

Auventera Two
Jan. 12, 2008, 04:14 PM
Sorry to hear you guys are having riding troubles! Ack, no fun. :( I rode 2 1/2 hours this morning in the new mohair girth. I really do like it. I guess I wish I'd bought the endurance style though, but this is fine for now. It does NOT slip, that's for sure. I love how easy the billets just slip into the keepers. My old girth you had to thread the billets through 3 sets of very tight keepers. What a pain. My only other regret is that I didn't buy a longer one. Oh well, live and learn.

marta
Jan. 12, 2008, 07:05 PM
what do you mean an endurance one? what's the difference between the endurance and the one you got? what did you get, a dressage one?

as much as i miss trail riding, i have to say that the 3 months off have been so beneficial. by working with her on the ground i had an opportunity to watch her move, see how stiff her LH is and then work with it to make it stronger and healthier. when we started out ground driving in november she'd literally look like she was dragging her toe on the LH when she first started trotting to the left. now the leg looks practically normal from the v. first stride. and i'm sure her topline has benefited from all this long and low work. i'm convinced that i see a difference. i hope my saddle fitter will confirm it when she comes with the saddle.
so things happen for a reason and if this time wasn't forced upon me, i might have some real serious issues with her soundness down the road. so it's not all bad:)

Auventera Two
Jan. 12, 2008, 07:30 PM
Oh tha's wonderful you can use the time off to figure out her lameness issue! Did she have an injury? It's too bad you haven't been in the saddle for a while but at least you can use the time for beneficial things, and come riding season you'll be all set to go again! :)

Yes, there's an endurance model that's 26 strings versus 14, and it's wide in the middle and skinny on both ends. I didn't choose it because I thought it would be too wide in the middle and cover too much area (looks like a roper girth), and also I wasn't sure if the 26 strings would get bound up. I wanted a single flat layer of strings against the horse. But, in looking at it now, the strings separate a little bit and you can see hairs stick through between the strings. Not a problem if the girth isn't too tight, or in the summer time. But this horse is SO unfreakingbelievablysensitve that a little hair pull will cause a snort and stomp and bite at her sides. Crazy mare. I should just renew her trace clip and that would solve that issue. She has not acted like her hair is being pulled, but she has acted that way with neoprene before.

marta
Jan. 12, 2008, 08:41 PM
oh well. i think my is the regular ap, probably 14 strings then.

kip had an injury to her LH hock about 5 years ago. she landed on a piece of an old pipe or some kind of a steel rod which was sticking out of the ground in her turnout (we just moved to that barn when it happened...). vet came out, looked at it, told me it could be real bad and left me with a tube of antibiotics. so i guess in light of his 'diagnosis' it wasn't so bad.
i realize now that that hock is much stiffer. well, i knew for a while that she doesn't like to stretch that leg back during trimming for example but didn't realize how much it affected her under saddle until i began ground driving.

tollertwins
Jan. 12, 2008, 09:41 PM
I got the roper looking girth 'cause the forward half will actually make it forward to the girth area.

I'm glad to hear it's not slipping....Husband sat on my horse for a little today, and I got back on with a 'what-in-he*l-happend-to-my-stirrups!!!!!'. His extra weight crushed the flocking more than I do - and the saddle had slipped around mr. mutton withers to where one side was about 3 holes shorter than the other side!

marta
Jan. 13, 2008, 08:04 AM
just when posting on the human HR monitor thread i realized that i may not be able to use my HR monitor (the human kind) with the mohair girth b/c it's not fuzzy!
i wonder if anyone has been able to use the mohair girth with the human HR monitor set up successfully...
i can't believe i didn't think of this before. i may have to return that girth and exchange it for a fuzzy type like a toklat:(

islandrider
Jan. 15, 2008, 10:35 AM
Someone mentioned their mohair girth had shrunk. I think if you wash them in hot water that is what might happen. Slypner gear has good, simple instructions. Wash in cold water, hang flat. They will still stretch a bit, not that much though for all the comfort!

dreamswept
Jan. 15, 2008, 01:27 PM
Someone mentioned their mohair girth had shrunk. I think if you wash them in hot water that is what might happen. Slypner gear has good, simple instructions. Wash in cold water, hang flat. They will still stretch a bit, not that much though for all the comfort!

I actually need to wash mine because I'm between horses. The last horse I used it on was the mare I was leasing. I have the black and natural striped mohair dressage girth from Saddle Up Tack because it has the 1.5" roller buckles I needed for my centerfire v-rigging billets.

They said to handwash cold (DO NOT machine wash) and lay flat to dry.

marta
Jan. 16, 2008, 10:14 AM
it's nice and soft. i like it! i want to keep it.
does it stay this soft or does it become more stringy with use?

islandrider
Jan. 17, 2008, 12:15 PM
It will stay soft and wonderful as long as you wash it in cold and lay it flat to dry...I've had mine nearly a year now and it is as soft and cuddly as it was the first day. AND I've washed it many, many times! I'm so glad this girth is catching on with folks, my horse and I just love it! (speaking of the roper style endurance anatomical mohair girth)

Diamond Jake
Jan. 17, 2008, 02:59 PM
A2- sorry to hijack- did you go to the UMECRA banquet this past weekend?

As for HRM's- I use mine with a PVC/Neoprene girth, and it works just fine. I have one cheap fleece girth, which really has to go.... but if I stick with wool or Mohair girths, I am constantly washing them. If I do not.. well, we get little fungi issues here once in a while that I do not want to promote.

Anyway- would love to see pictures of your girths in action.


As for saddle pads- I use a Diamond Wool pad cut to fit my Tucker, and a Thinline pad on top of that. A friend of mine has just started using the Thinline Dressage oad with her Barefoot saddle. Still have not hear how that is going. She was using a Skito, with special pads and Lexan to boot, but was still getting white spots and sore backs.....

Auventera Two
Jan. 17, 2008, 05:54 PM
DJ - No, I didn't. :( Were you able to make it?

The more I read about the Skitos and "fancy" pads the more they scare me. It's either all good or all bad. It seems like people spend as much time and money on the pad as they do on the saddle. I ordered a Toklat woolback and I'm going to give that a shot for a while and see what happens. My gutt feeling all along about the fancy treeless pads hasn't been good. I might have to eat my words some day and go that route but I'd rather try other options first. I sold one of my Abettas to a woman who had horror stories about Supracor pads and what happened to her horses's back. That wasn't the first story I'd heard either. At the end of the day, I just feel more comfortable with good ole' fashioned wool. Of course that can go wrong too, but I'd at least like to give that a shot first, I think. After all this time of hating neoprene and fleece girths, I'm so glad I finally just bit the bullet and bought the mohair string girth. I only hope now that I continue to love it as time goes on. It wasn't the money, it was the "idea" of a string girth. But sometimes what's most simple is what works the best.

marta
Jan. 18, 2008, 10:56 AM
did you wash your mohair girth yet?
how does it look after the wash?

dreamswept
Jan. 18, 2008, 12:29 PM
did you wash your mohair girth yet?
how does it look after the wash?

I'm not A2, but I washed my mohair girth a few days ago. I hand washed it in cold water, rinsed well, and laid flat to dry. The leather backing's still a bit damp, so I'll probably put it back outside to let it dry in the sun, but the mohair itself is dry, and soft, and feels great.

marta
Jan. 18, 2008, 01:56 PM
that's what i hoped. i'm going to try it with the HR monitor. i really like the feel of the mohair. hope my mare agrees;)

tollertwins
Jan. 20, 2008, 06:47 PM
Yippee!!!

Mine looks like it's actually gonna hold the saddle in place - and the front of the girth makes its way WELL into horsies natural girth area!!!!

luvs2ride79
Jan. 20, 2008, 09:36 PM
I have a Billy Cook Mohair girth that has lasted me FOREVER! I like the roper style best. The next one I get will be one of those Smart Cinches in mohair. A friend of mine has one and I really like it.

I also use Skito (http://aretesaddlery.com/tack/index.php?act=viewCat&catId=14) and ThinLine pads (http://aretesaddlery.com/tack/index.php?act=viewCat&catId=15) and have been very happy with both of them! They are the only two "fancy" pads that I used that really work the way they claim. And, the nice thing about ThinLines is that if you don't love it, you can send it back within 30 days for a refund. I like the Skito because you can shim it and do all sorts of things with the foam if you have hard to fit horses.

citydog
Jan. 20, 2008, 09:59 PM
Dressage Extentions sells a full length German Trevia (spelling?) cord girth that's a little more expensive, but I'm not sure exactly what it's made of.

A2, it's a synthetic, and while not as nice a good quality mohair, it's my second choice. Less grippy, but they last forever, wash well, and the hardware (both St├╝bben and Courbette/Lemtex sell what appears to be an identical product) is really nice cast (not stamped) stainless.

My absolute favorite girths, coveted by all in my barn (for hunting, especially) are real mohair with elastic at both ends available in very limited sizes here (http://www.icefarm.com/tackstore/cat2.html). Expensive, but worth every penny. I brush any mud off them and occasionally swoosh in a bucket of cold water and leave them to dry flat. I think once a year I swoosh with some shampoo, rinse, dry flat. They look like new, pony loves them, and they are easy to tighten from the saddle. I don't think they're being made any more, and I did pick up a couple of bargain trevira girths that I'm going to have the tack repair lady experiment with adding elastic ends to. I dearly with Montana Cincha would start making them, as their quality is fabulous, but pony and I love the elastic more. :yes:

tollertwins
Jan. 21, 2008, 08:01 AM
If you go to 'teddy's site' that was mentioned earlier it looks like she can get elastic put on....at least there's an option for elastic ends at the the end of the girth section.