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Drvmb1ggl3
Dec. 11, 2007, 02:20 AM
A white TB does something (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jt7ARX0xJcM) other than stand around and look pretty.

Of course this horse was bred to do something, the colour was a complete accident.

RiddleMeThis
Dec. 11, 2007, 03:23 AM
Is he actually a white, max sabino, or is he just a gray?

Ladybug Hill
Dec. 11, 2007, 08:26 AM
The horse looks to have the pink skin of a max sabino and the fairly even white coloration of a max sabino.

alliekat
Dec. 11, 2007, 08:36 AM
What ever his color he is awesome and his jockey rode that race beautifully!!!

Daydream Believer
Dec. 11, 2007, 08:37 AM
A white TB does something (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jt7ARX0xJcM) other than stand around and look pretty.

Of course this horse was bred to do something, the colour was a complete accident.

Why the snark? Sounds like someone trying to pick a fight. :yes:

Blonde Filly
Dec. 11, 2007, 08:57 AM
Why the snark? Sounds like someone trying to pick a fight. :yes:
That is exactly what I thought when I read the post. ;)

camohn
Dec. 11, 2007, 09:12 AM
And who is he?

Drvmb1ggl3
Dec. 11, 2007, 09:36 AM
And who is he?

She (http://www.pedigreequery.com/yukichan) is a 2yo by Kurofone.
No one notice the famous silks?

Blonde Filly
Dec. 11, 2007, 09:40 AM
Interesting the sire is a gray and the dam is the white TB in the pedigree. First time I think, I've seen a white with a gray parent. Cool Filly! :winkgrin: And what a race to come form behind like that and blow the doors off of the whole pack in the end. :D

Do you know how much she has won so far and how many starts?

Black Forest
Dec. 11, 2007, 09:42 AM
She (http://www.pedigreequery.com/yukichan) is a 2yo by Kurofone.
No one notice the famous silks?

Ohh - well done ! I was trying desperately to make out something that sounded like a name! The picture is much better than the video clip in terms of making out the color - she looks definately like a Maximum Sabino rather than a grey

Oh and I would not recognize any silks even if they waved in front of my eyes for hours

Ladybug Hill
Dec. 11, 2007, 09:42 AM
Well maybe I am stupid but I didn't think the OP was snarky. It can't turn into a fight if you don't respond to it as though it was picking a fight. I have been so impressed with the general attitude of the boards in the last week. Good and heated discussion without getting too out of control.

Let's see if we can discuss color without quite as many emotions. The whites in the racing industry have been there with several examples already. Not a brand new thing. I honestly don't personally know of ANY color breeder that does not want their stock to be high quality--some breeders just may be more knowledgeable than others.

Ladybug Hill
Dec. 11, 2007, 09:44 AM
Tell me about the sire--I am not as knowledgeable about some of the pedigrees as I should be. Don't see that pedigree in the database.

ThirdCharm
Dec. 11, 2007, 09:47 AM
I don't think many TBs continue their racing careers to the point where their coats would have "greyed out" to 100% white. Eight, ten years old or more? And she would have had to be bald-faced (not common in TBs) to not have dark around the eyes/muzzle.

Nice run.

Jennifer

Texarkana
Dec. 11, 2007, 09:49 AM
No one notice the famous silks?

You're really preaching to the wrong crowd here...
:winkgrin:

...and, this filly's color shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone. She's out of a white, Halo-line mare.

M. Owen
Dec. 11, 2007, 09:52 AM
If you look at the pedigree, the mare's dam is a maximally expressed sabino too. There are two good pictures of the dam if you follow the links.

vineyridge
Dec. 11, 2007, 10:02 AM
The dam has dropped three white foals, including this one.

That filly is one fine looking gal. Just beautiful.

Daydream Believer
Dec. 11, 2007, 10:23 AM
Well maybe I am stupid but I didn't think the OP was snarky. It can't turn into a fight if you don't respond to it as though it was picking a fight. I have been so impressed with the general attitude of the boards in the last week. Good and heated discussion without getting too out of control.



Well, when the post is "for you color crowd" and then it's worded like "look a colored horse that actually does something and was bred to do something other than be pretty" and "his color was an accident" than I read some snark into it. I also like the atmosphere on the boards lately and that is why I mentioned how the post came across to me.

Ladybug Hill
Dec. 11, 2007, 10:29 AM
I went back and reread--yes I could see the snark, but honestly if a non color breeder wants to point out that a horse can be "colored" and be "successful" then honestly that person is pointing out what we have said all along! :lol:

So I guess you could choose to read it as a supportive statement! (and take whatever snark they intended right out of the post!)

siegi b.
Dec. 11, 2007, 10:34 AM
I just can't get over seeing them race in the "wrong" direction... :-)

Ladybug Hill
Dec. 11, 2007, 10:36 AM
I just can't get over seeing them race in the "wrong" direction... :-)


That totally freaked me out. I know that some places do go to the right. Which countries do that.

Tiki
Dec. 11, 2007, 10:53 AM
Yeah, racing to the right - eek!

Gorgeous, gorgeous mare, and man can she run. She won going away. What an absolutely incredible pedigree on her. She's got the best of the best on top and bottom. Imagine, a white horse with a gray sire. What happens when she finally goes gray at 8 or 10 :D:lol::winkgrin::):eek:;):D Tee hee hee!!!

JER
Dec. 11, 2007, 11:12 AM
She's a big girl. Didn't think she was only two.

L&L
Dec. 11, 2007, 11:23 AM
I just can't get over seeing them race in the "wrong" direction...

Unh??????:confused: looks like they're runnin forwards to me :confused::winkgrin:

alliekat
Dec. 11, 2007, 11:32 AM
Unh??????:confused: looks like they're runnin forwards to me :confused::winkgrin:

Too Funny:lol::lol::lol:

Bugs-n-Frodo
Dec. 11, 2007, 12:11 PM
Yeah, the whole racing in the other direction got me too! Nice run on that filly!

Jellybean83
Dec. 11, 2007, 05:04 PM
See i didnt even notice that they were going to the right, shows you how many times i've been to the track (zero) lol

Drvmb1ggl3
Dec. 11, 2007, 06:03 PM
That totally freaked me out. I know that some places do go to the right. Which countries do that.

Racing in most countries is bi-directional, sometimes both directions in the one race. Of major racing nations only the US and Canada are uni-directional.

RiddleMeThis
Dec. 11, 2007, 07:26 PM
I don't think many TBs continue their racing careers to the point where their coats would have "greyed out" to 100% white. Eight, ten years old or more? And she would have had to be bald-faced (not common in TBs) to not have dark around the eyes/muzzle.

Nice run.

Jennifer

What made me think possible gray, was this picture of a foal from a previous thread on this board http://www.esi-auktionen.de/Queensland/p/109.html Barely a weanling and already almost all white.

SSFLandon
Dec. 11, 2007, 07:43 PM
cool race to watch and well turned out white horse...I also would have never guessed 2. She's really nice!

enjoytheride
Dec. 12, 2007, 06:11 AM
Blonde Filly, I believe you have been banned multiple times under multiple alters for advertising and snipping.

witherbee
Dec. 12, 2007, 11:09 AM
Thanks for sharing the link - beautiful filly and fun race to watch. Sure would make it easy to spot your horse in the race when she's THAT white! We've had a few grays that were almost white, and some of them have run in the Gray Ghost in NJ - fun!

Riddlemethis, so strange to see a weanling jumping like that (the like to Queensland) - what a beautiful baby with fantastic form though!

Barnfairy
Dec. 12, 2007, 11:17 AM
Oh, Drumbiggle. Did you not know that "color" (or, as you say, "colour") is a pot-stirrin' word around here? :sigh:

Should I know the silks that filly's (whose name begins with a Y and whose broodmare sire's initials are SS) jock is wearing? :uhoh: edited to add: now that I've done some poking around, okay, now I know who made those silks famous. Japanese racing is just too early in the morning for me to follow ;) but I should have remembered the l'Arc de Triomphe.

I can think of two greys that are nearly white now and still running:

Nine year old Evening Attire (http://www.drf.com/images/evening_200x250_121007.jpg),

and seven year old Christmas Away (http://inlinethumb36.webshots.com/32931/2613444200099108256S425x425Q85.jpg) That picture was taken in 2006; he's in the middle of the field (obviously).

WhiteCamry
Dec. 12, 2007, 12:30 PM
She (http://www.pedigreequery.com/yukichan) is a 2yo by Kurofone.
No one notice the famous silks?

Yup ... Kaneko Makoto Holdings Co. Ltd., the same folks who ran Deep Impact.

Texarkana
Dec. 12, 2007, 02:25 PM
Yup ... Kaneko Makoto Holdings Co. Ltd., the same folks who ran Deep Impact.

This thread was originally in SHB, which is why I didn't expect any of them there to know anything about Japanese racing. ;)

Blonde Filly
Dec. 12, 2007, 05:57 PM
Blonde Filly, I believe you have been banned multiple times under multiple alters for advertising and snipping.

I was only banned once and NEVER ever came back as an alter..you are thinking of someone else NOT ME. I was banned for asking for ice boots for my foundering mare...it was considered "advertising"...the thread has magicly disappeared or I would refer you to it...and NO the Mods know I'm here!!!! So let's move on as I've said on multiple threads now! :winkgrin: Please see Off Course Thread and Sporthorsebreeding Thread! Carry on! :D

texang73
Dec. 12, 2007, 08:56 PM
Very nice race and a beautiful filly! :yes:

And, that weanling's jump... Holy cow! :eek:

Drvmb1ggl3
Dec. 12, 2007, 11:03 PM
OMG!! This thread has almost 1,400 views! Most of the racing threads barely make it into the 100's.

Who would have thought Japanese racing was that popular??

Here's Deep Impact winning the Arima Kinen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrY8XwbUylw), his final race, with his signature come from the back of the pack style and being paraded before the 100,000 fans one last time.

summerhorse
Dec. 18, 2007, 01:07 PM
Her dam is a white daughter of Sunday Silence http://www.pedigreequery.com/shirayukihime

And her sire was a very good racehorse and sire himself.

The filly COULD also be grey, her body is essentially all one white marking so if she is grey it is hidden and they will only know if she produces a grey foal to a none grey sire. 50/50 chance of grey/non grey.

Apparently a white foal is not the huge deal in Japan as it is here as there are quite a few of them! Not all this line either.

Alibhai's Alibar
Dec. 18, 2007, 01:28 PM
I don't think many TBs continue their racing careers to the point where their coats would have "greyed out" to 100% white. Eight, ten years old or more? And she would have had to be bald-faced (not common in TBs) to not have dark around the eyes/muzzle.

Nice run.

Jennifer

Just an aside: a young greyed out TB shows up every once in a while. Snow Magic still has a dark mane but she is quite light for a grey 2yo:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/rockandracehorses/1924422418

Glimmerglass
Jul. 2, 2013, 09:50 PM
For the 'white horse' crowd -

Video replay: Chief White Fox at Mountaineer, July 1, breaking maiden (http://www.drf.com/news/rare-white-thoroughbred-wins-mountaineer)


The 3-year-old son of The White Fox bested the runner-up by 5 ¼ lengths in the one-mile race under jockey Marco Ccamaque. He covered the distance in 1:42.92 over a track rated fast as the favorite.

Chief White Fox is one of only a small handful of Thoroughbreds to be registered as “white” by The Jockey Club.

White is the rarest color in the Thoroughbred registry, a genetic mutation that is dominantly inherited. Diamonds and Lace, Chief White Fox’s dam, is a dark bay or brown Shirttail Flying mare with no white horses in her pedigree. Chief White Fox, her first white foal, is her third winner from as many offspring to race.

However, late sire The White Fox comes from a long line of registered white horses in the Patchen Wilkes Farm breeding program. Seven of the 10 foals by the deceased son of Pioneering are registered as white. Three have raced, with two winners; led by gray or roan gelding Patchen Fox, who has won four of 10 starts for earnings of $54,811.

Chief White Fox is the first white foal by The White Fox to win a race. The colt was born and raised at Brown’s Elmhurst Farm in Lexington, Ky.

“I condition him at Keeneland’s Thoroughbred Training Center on Paris Pike,” Brown said. “There have been a lot of show horse people who want to breed to him. But I’m going to keep racing him – at least for the time being.”

Foxtrot's
Jul. 8, 2013, 05:08 PM
The Youtube has gone 'pouf'.

BTW, the OP is not an instigator and has for years provided interesting and knowledgeable posts that I always look forward to for their content.

Glimmerglass
Jul. 9, 2013, 02:48 PM
Now this is a cool color runner in Europe - Germany, actually - with the name Silvery Moon (2-yr)! You think he'd be a lead pony at Santa Anita at first glance ;)

Video (youtube): June 2013 - Silvery Moon training (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNsB16BYNf8)

Paulick Report July 9, 2013: "Horse of a Different Color Turning Heads in Europe" (http://www.paulickreport.com/news/bloodstock/horse-of-a-different-color-turning-heads-in-europe/)


The colt, a rare overo Thoroughbred, has made two starts, most recently finishing second by a neck in a maiden race in Germany. Silvery Moon was purchased by his owner, Stall Paint Horse, from the 2012 Arqana Autumn sale in November for €12,000. Stall Paint Horse even had silks made to match those of Silvery Moon’s markings.

Yep - those are some neat silks! (http://www.paulickreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/SilveryMoon-684x456.jpg) Never would get registered in NY or Kentucky but still neat.

I believe there is 'another' so-named Silvery Moon (IRE) actively racing but not on the continent rather instead Britain.

Glimmerglass
Jul. 9, 2013, 03:05 PM
Video (youtube): Silvery Moon making his 2nd start (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2wUgd8qY8oU#at=41)

It's in German. Looks to have lost by a long neck.

The site with additional updates:
http://www.koeln-galopp.de/de-startseite.html

WildandWickedWarmbloods
Jul. 9, 2013, 03:14 PM
hmm, we know a German horse who speaks the language and is pinto and is 1/2 TB. Maybe that pinto racing in Germany needs some DNA testing? He has a pretty big WB looking head there. :lol: We'll take the good old well bred Kentucky TB bays and chestnuts. But it is interesting to see some coloured horses win sometimes. Everyone gets so excited over greys in racing.

They need to tattoo that boy's left eye. Too much pink.

A horse farm in Ky now has all those 20 or so white TB broodmares who used to be at a farm in the PNW, so there will be more registered white TBs showing up everywhere. Including one of the Silvers in Johnny Depp's Long Ranger movie. The article is over on bloodhorse.com.