Why is it so hard to find good Info on Horse Trails?

[jazzrider]

My SO and I are eager to try out the C&O canal trail (local trail along Potomac). But since our guys have never been around trains we want to start out on a short ride not so close to the tracks. I've been googling all morning trying to find out where to go. I've also been trying to get reviews of other locales to ride (Cacapon State Park, the C&O up in Williamsport, anything around Frederick, MD), but the info on the internet for horseback riders is pretty scarce. Lots of info for hikers or bike riders though!

Simple things like where to park a horse trailer, difficulties of trails for a horse, etc. aren't posted on the park system sites that I can find. While I'll solve my current problem by taking my dogs and going on a scouting trip -- why is it so hard to find good info on horseback riding trails in the Northeast (and trailer parking for privately owned horses!)? :mad: Does anyone have a good source?

Done venting. Off to take my pups for a walk! :winkgrin:

[Gestalt]

There are good 'books' out that give desciptions of trails, how/where to park, etc. I have one from years ago that is still helpful in finding older trails that are not kept up. I live in the PNW.

[Huntertwo]

Do you have a State Horse Council you could ask?

We have the CT. state horse council and they list the trails that horses are allowed or not allowed on. Difficulty etc.

Perhaps your State DEP site?

[Apollos]

Try here

http://trec-usa.com/where.htm

[pandorasboxx]

The Virginia Horse Council publishes an extremely informative guide to VA Horse Trails. I purchased one a couple of years ago. Its my bible.

http://www.virginiahorsecouncil.org/TrailsInformation.htm

[Bank of Dad]

You're right, Maryland isn't real organized that way. I would call the main office of each park you want to ride in, they can tell you where to ride or park. Maybe even have a map. I think C and O is part of the national park system. Also, the League of Maryland Horsemen have a list of where to park for some of their rides. Maybe this is on the web site www.LOMH.net. If not, pm me with your address and I can send you so info when it comes in the next newsletter.

[jazzrider]

I have the VA trail book (and it's great! :yes:), it's Maryland I'm a bit frustrated with (I live closer to some MD trails than VA trails). The MD Horse Council has nothing useful on their site. I've called the park system, but the info you get depends on the person you get on the phone. For the C&O I was told to park at the MARC train stations. No formal info on non-station parking (though I know there is some).

The Trec site has some useful info on trail conditions -- Thanks Appollos! But most of the park web sites just say you can horseback ride (and hike, and bike, etc.) there -- no info on trailer parking or terrain.

Bank of Dad -- I couldn't get the LOMH site to load, but will try again at work tomorrow.

We ended up finding a nice site to park just outside of Dickerson with the dogs today, and a stretch of trail with no adjacent tracks. So next weekend we'll probably give it a try. Came back to VA across White's Ferry -- with a horse trailer right behind us! :eek: I'm not too sure about that ferry with just my car! :lol::lol:

Thanks for the links. If anyone has any other useful info -- I'd appreciate it!

[chicamuxen1]

jazzrider,
I live in MD so can offer a few suggestions. You may want to join TROT, http://www.trot-md.org/ and attend som of their trail rides. They are a good organization, not a bunch of yahoos, usually have two different groups at their rides for the slow and faster riders. There are some trail maps on their website and links. The new Woodstock Equestrain Park would be close to you and a pleasant ride. Little Bennett Regional Park in Montgomery County has nice horse trails and info with map at http://www.mc-mncppc.org/parks/enterprise/park_facilities/little_bennett/bennett_trails.shtm

Here's another link to park info, http://www.mc-mncppc.org/Parks/PPSD/ParkTrails/trail_maps.shtm Black Hill Regional Park also has horse trails.

Here is info from a FED Gov document about C&O Canal Park usage:

SECTION 2.16 - HORSES AND PACK ANIMALS
(b)1. Horseback riding is permitted on the towpath from Swains Lock (Mile
16.6) to the Offutt Street crossing at Candoc (Mile 181.8) in
Cumberland and on the Paw Paw Tunnel Hill trail. Horses may access
the towpath at Violettes Lock. Access to the river for the purpose of
watering is authorized at public river access points (boat ramps).
(g) 1. Horses are not allowed in the Paw Paw Tunnel, park front-country
campgrounds, or picnic areas.
2. Feed for horses must be carried by the group. No grazing is
permitted in the park.
3. Trail rider groups are responsible for keeping the loading and
unloading areas clean. Manure must be picked up and hauled away.
4. Horses may be loaded or unloaded in parking areas.
Loading/unloading must be kept in those portions of parking areas
furthermost from campgrounds or picnic areas. Groups must carry a
loading ramp.
5. Riders must dismount and walk their horses across the aqueducts.
Horses are restricted from crossing narrow wooden footbridges as
they are not designed to carry the concentrated weight of the horses.
6. Trail rider camping is allowed only in hiker/biker campsites and is
limited to six persons, four horses, and one night per visit per site.
Horses must be tethered at the furthermost portion of the campsite
away from the tent and picnic table locations. Groups are responsible
for removing from the park manure and leftover feed, etc.
7. Horse trailers are not allowed in drive-in camping areas.
8. Horses/riders are not to exceed the speed of a slow trot.
9. The watering, cleaning, or tethering of horses at park wells is prohibited. By use of a bucket
or other container, water may be taken from park wells located at hiker/biker campsites and
used for watering horses.
10. Horses must be loaded/unloaded and must enter and exit the towpath at public access points
only. Access from private property is prohibited.
11. Horseback riding is prohibited after dark.
12. Horse riders must pick up after their animals, all manure

chicamuxen

[Bank of Dad]

I corrected the link, but there's no directions listed. Send me your address and I will send you a copy of the direction page when it comes in the newsletter.

[FortheFunofitFarm]

I know we've discussed where to park and such for the C&O on http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MarylandTrailRiders/

Montgomery Co. has some great places to ride. I ride either Mo. Co or Carroll County parks.

Woodstock Eq Park is fun and so is Little Bennett.

[FortheFunofitFarm]

Also be sure to check for closures now that it's hunting season. Some parks don't allow hunting.... I think the one by the little muni airport is one. Can't remember the name of it though! There is a neat tunnel there too.

[jazzrider]

I know we've discussed where to park and such for the C&O on http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MarylandTrailRiders/

Montgomery Co. has some great places to ride. I ride either Mo. Co or Carroll County parks.

Woodstock Eq Park is fun and so is Little Bennett.

Thanks for that link. I've put in to join. We've tried Woodstock Eq. Park (nice!) and were supposed to ride Little Bennett a few weeks ago with USTR but it got rained out. We're looking forward to trying it! We just recently figured out that there are more trails (that are easier to get to) in MD for us than Virginia -- we're so close the Brunswick Potomac crossing.

[FortheFunofitFarm]

You are welcome! Maybe sometime we can meet and ride together. We were just at Little Bennett on Saturday and the Eq Park the weekend before.

[jazzrider]

That would be fun! We ride all through the winter (I hate the heat, love the cold). We hope to try Little Bennett before Christmas. Maybe you could be our guide?

[FortheFunofitFarm]

Last Sat. was the first time hubby and I had gone there. Went with some friends who had ridden there lots of times before. WE STILL were 4-wheelin' on some old forgotten, fallen tree blocked, trails :lol::lol::lol: It was a blast though but I am for sure taking a map next time :lol: Let's pm eachother if either of us plans a date :yes:

[Apollos]

We'll be at Little Bennett on Saturday as long as it dries up a bit.

[jazzrider]

Shoot. We've got a park patrol ride that day, otherwise it would have been fun to try for an impromptu COTH ride! :yes:

[FortheFunofitFarm]

Is there hunting that day, Apollos? Double check before you head out. Most parks have hunting on Saturday's. I'll never forget my first ride to the Eq Park and it was closed for a hunt. We improvised and went to the park by the airport, but was I ever bummed. Ben Sugar usually does a great job at posting the closure dates. I know he hasn't been well lately though. I can say for sure that the Eq park is closed for riding this Sat. for hunting....not positive about Little Bennett though. Sunday's are safe for the most part though.

[Apollos]

There is no hunting at Little Bennett. Not where the main trails are. You just have to stay away from the private property. Little Bennett closes down for a week in December for a controlled hunt. It's been that way for several years now.

[blazn]

If only it were that easy here in Idaho! I have to look at Forest Service maps, topo maps, hiking and mountain biking books and generally spend time driving around (without the trailer), hiking around (with the dog) and then taking out my very most agile horse to see what the footing might be like. I have entered endurance rides at the "trail riding" level to see where they go. I'm a member of the area Rail to Trail group; out of a nearly 100 mile trail the nearest place to park a trailer is about 40 miles away. Subdivisions are springing up faster than mushrooms and the first thing they like to do is fence off the perimeter, which often puts a 3 wire fence across the trail that went somewhere last year. I'm jealous.

[KCFoxy]

Riding the Patapsco and pulling into the McKeldin area will give you miles including crossing train tracks...not to mention hearing and seeing some. This park is off 70 (between Carroll and Howard Counties, MD)
Bank of Dad's idea of contacting LOMH is a good one.
enjoy!

[jazzrider]

Riding the Patapsco and pulling into the McKeldin area will give you miles including crossing train tracks...not to mention hearing and seeing some. This park is off 70 (between Carroll and Howard Counties, MD)
Bank of Dad's idea of contacting LOMH is a good one.
enjoy!

How close is the train? On the C&O it's either right next to the trail or nowhere near it. I'd love to find a place to ride where they can hear it, but it's not right next to us, so they can get used to the sounds. I'll have to look at Patapsco -- thanks!

I've also joined the Trot and MarylandTrailRiders groups on Yahoo based on recommendations here, so I'm hoping to collect some good info on the trails.

blazn -- Have to say I would never think Idaho would have the problems of being overrun by subdivisions! I guess it's happening all over. :no:

Thanks to everyone for the info. Hope we can see eachother out on trail!

[KCFoxy]

It's close....you can cross tracks, ride beside, or just see the tracks. You can hear the trains warning horns before they come. :yes:
Surprisingly,,,it's not been scary to the horses at all.

[Beverley]

Blazn, for Idaho, does not your Back Country Horsemen organization have a web site? We have one in Utah, www.bchu.com (http://www.bchu.com) that has some trail info on it and we are aiming to build more into it. Luckily for us, one of my fellow chapter members recently wrote a pretty good book covering a variety of Utah trails.

A propos of this thread, I stumbled onto the tail end of 'Best of America by Horseback' on RFD-TV the other night- they were riding at Gettysburg- and their web site, bestofamericabyhorseback.com has a bunch of links to trail resources- seems to be a fairly new effort and hopefully the database will grow.

[Apollos]

http://pwoodw6715.com/MDhorsepeople/trailinfo.html

I just found this on one of the lists that I am on. Some good info on places to ride in MD.

[SarahR]

I just started a trail sharing forum just because of this problem. I'm in the west and have tons of info to share for my area. I've posted several trails on my forum, and plan to post at least another 20 over the winter. I have the same frustrations described here. Hopefully my site will grow to a place that can be a resource for equestrian trail use:

www.fourcornerstrails.com


Sarah Rose

[ruffiannyc]

Hi Sarah,

The Four Corners area looks awesome for riding! Too bad I'm in the Northeast.

[SarahR]

Hi Sarah,

The Four Corners area looks awesome for riding! Too bad I'm in the Northeast.


I'm hoping that my site will eventually have members from all over the country sharing their trail information. I just started it, so it will take awhile to build to that point.

Sarah
www.fourcornerstrails.com

[baylady7]

Howdy
The farm where I board backs to Dry Seneca Creek park, which has lots of trails. I dont have a trailer so have not made it to the canal (approx 5 miles via road) but if you are ever up for a 1-2 hr weekend ride let me know (baylady7@aol) well in advance, I can coordinate with the farm owner and we could ride out together. My guy is good, but a follower more than a leader. There are some small stream crossings, but very do-able
Appy trails
Kathy & Cadet

[jazzrider]

Thanks baylady! I just may take you up on that once things settle down for me a bit (I work PT but have a consultancy on top of that right now). Are you near the the new horse park (Woodstock, I think)?

I'm still itching to try Little Bennett -- but need to wait until Feb. when I have this work behind me. It would be fun to organize a COTH ride.

SarahR -- Great site. I hope you can spread the word and folks use it. Maybe you can create regional forums in it?

[Apollos]

Thanks baylady. I may take you up on that also. I love finding new places to ride and my husband will be glad that I'm not exploring alone.

I'm definitely up for a COTH ride.

[baylady7]

Howdy

Unfortunately we are 5 or so miles (via road) from Woodstock.

Here is the park we are near (we are on Partnership Road)

http://mcparksandplanning.org/parks/park_maps/map_pages/drysenecacreeksvu2/drysenecacreeksvu2.shtm

also check this site:

http://mcparksandplanning.org/parks/park_maps/map_pages/index.shtm

Appy Trails,
Kathy & Cadet

[SarahR]

SarahR -- Great site. I hope you can spread the word and folks use it. Maybe you can create regional forums in it?

If it takes off I certainly will :) It will take awhile, but I think eventually it will catch on, at least for this area. The photo album is set up for that, though. It even has an album for international pics.

Sarah
www.fourcornerstrails.com