Stallions that did the 100 Day Test

[PineTreeFarm]

Some seem to have little current information available.
Where are they now?
Do they have performance records, are they breeding, etc?

NAME YEAR of TEST
arts aero 2004
masterpiece 2004
warcloud 2004
landchampion 2004
conrad 1 2004
galeno tyme 2004
donnerstein 2004
iconicus 2004
caleb 2004
le cavalier 2002
spectrum 2002
boca raton 2002
patrick 2002
grandios 2000
allerbester 2000
presidio 2000
odyssey 2000
watch me 2000
ransom pch 2000
applejack 2000
amour 1998
amor reto 1996
merlin 1995
page nine 1990

[risingstarfarm]

Caleb is currently showing in dressage with Claire Darnell. He's qualified for the Region 9 Championships in the SWDC FOURTH LEVEL JR CHAMPIONSHIP, GREAT AM/USDF FOURTH LEVEL JR CHAMP, SWDC THIRD LEVEL JR CHAMPIONSHIP and GREAT AM/USDF THIRD LEVEL JR CHAMP. (sorry for the crazy capitals, I copied off showsecretary.com). Claire has done a terrific job with him.

If I recall correctly, Le Cavalier was gelded.

[STF]

And remember that Caleb's owner place got hit by a tornado not long after the 100DT! So, that set her back some.

I own Puerto D'Azur, who was the 1998 champion of the 100DT. I was not the owner at the time of the testing, but I can tell you as of currently he is activly breeding and has offspring proving themself worthy in the rated shows. One which is going Advanced now in eventing.

Our stallion was bred some and Bill Coester show him and trained him up to FEI, but went seperate ways with the old barn who owned him and then Puerto pretty much hung out (literally) and bred for the last 6 yrs. Sad to say, but true.

I have had a lot of conversations with stallion owners and its a hell of a project to deal with. Im sure Ronda could add in here, but its not always fun. Money that is involved is mind boggling! Ads are enough alone to break you as well as promoting a stallion by showing, training, etc. So in short, I think after the 100DT we dont hear a lot from the SO's because after a while, the money just is not always there.

I know many are happy with 5-10 breedings a year, just to offset their costs. They dont show or advertise heavy as that would up their overhead through the roof. So, I think that is why some "fall off the planet".........

Plus, dealing with a stallion each and every day can be a love/hate relationship! Nothing like getting a call from a vet at 6am to tell me he needs a collection that day (time difference and vet got started at early am!) Ughgh! LOL

This is Puerto as of two days ago - he is still going strong and very happy -
http://www.spindletopfarm.net/Pmorepics.htm

[TKR]

Donnerstein broke a leg in a pasture accident and was treated but it was too bad of a break to fix and he was euthanized.
PennyG

[cheekyhorse]

Masterpiece did the 30 day test. He is currently competing in dressage.

[DownYonder]

DiVinci, who won the 2002 test, is showing at Grand Prix dressage with scores in the 60's. He also has various offspring out showing - including a 2003 mare scoring in the 70's at Training Level with an AA rider.

[DownYonder]

Donnerstein broke a leg in a pasture accident and was treated but it was too bad of a break to fix and he was euthanized.
PennyG

That is really sad. I remember seeing that horse at his Hanoverian foal inspection and thought it was great when he became an approved stallion. I'm sure his owner was devastated, since she had raised him.

[elizabeth Callahan]

Le Cavalier was gelded and sold as an A hunter. Lots of frozen left and he is still activated with a lot of registries. I think his owner said it was way too expensive to campaign him

[talloaks]

Le Cavalier was gelded and sold as an A hunter. Lots of frozen left and he is still activated with a lot of registries. I think his owner said it was way too expensive to campaign him
Is this a recent sale for Le Cavalier? I thought the last time I spoke with Emmett he had him back at home, this was before the Chestnut Lawn Farm inspection in Sept. I hope for his sake the gelding is sold!!;)

[elizabeth Callahan]

Bernie - I thought he was sold several years ago . Maybe I'm wrong or does Emmet have him back?

[risingstarfarm]

Bernie - I thought he was sold several years ago . Maybe I'm wrong or does Emmet have him back?

Ditto. I understood this happened several years ago as well.

[PineTreeFarm]

I put Le Cavalier on my list as I was unsure about his status. USEF has results for him as a Junior Hunter from 2/2006 till 8/2006 and then nothing after that.
So he would have been gelded prior to 2/2006.
USEF's results show Emmett Turner as the owner.
Perhaps he was sold on or is showing under another name?

[AshKnoll]

Presidio is owned by my Aunt, and as stated on her website he unfortunately sustained an injury during the 100 day test, so was unable to go to a competition career. He is still breeding, approved with the GOV, and has a stallion on the ground, Prescription, along with having many first premium foals with the GOV.

Here is a link to his site, http://www.canterbury-court.com/Presidio.html.

[talloaks]

Bernie - I thought he was sold several years ago . Maybe I'm wrong or does Emmet have him back?


As I stated earlier, in my conversations with Emmett prior to our CLF inspection in mid Sept, he said he had Le Cavalier back at his farm. I know he was in training and showing but don't know if he was ever sold. Nevertheless, Emmett said he was home on the farm.

[Renae]

Here is Watch Me, the site says he suffered an injury http://garrisonequine.com/stallion.htm

[Erin Pittman]

As far as I know, Spectrum is still at Silverwood Farm in Virginia. I don't know what his current show record is, though, the most current info on the website only goes through 2000. Maybe Liz Hall will see this thread and comment. http://www.silverwoodfarm.com/spectrum.html

[tri]

Emmett still has Le Cavalier. Here is his website http://www.rylandknollfarm.com

DiVinci is doing well. Here is his website http://www.bellvaledressage.com

[Vineyard Eventing]

Does anyone know why he hasn't really done anything since the testing in 2004? He is SUCH an AMAZING stallion! I think we'd all give our right arm to own a horse like that! I'm just wondering why it seems he hasn't gone on to a show career? SOOOOOO much talant! Maybe she's worried he'll get injured?

[HFSH]

I understand he was injured.

[Sonesta]

Here is Watch Me, the site says he suffered an injury http://garrisonequine.com/stallion.htm

By the way, Watch Me, did not score well enough at the stallion testing to be approved by any of the warmblood registries. He was then sold and has gone through several hands since then.

Applejack died, I believe.

Amor Reto is still around in Batavia, OH, at http://legacyfarmltd.com/ where he is still making babies after an injury ended his dressage career.

[misita]

Does anyone know why he hasn't really done anything since the testing in 2004? He is SUCH an AMAZING stallion! I think we'd all give our right arm to own a horse like that! I'm just wondering why it seems he hasn't gone on to a show career? SOOOOOO much talant! Maybe she's worried he'll get injured?

Galeno Tyme is standing at Konza Prairie Dressage. www.galenotyme.com

www.hiddenvalleyfarms.net

[PineTreeFarm]

Thanks for all the responses so far. Does anybody else have information to share?

[ahf]

Merlin went back to Windswept in CN where he stands with the Mulholland's other three stallions; Wellesley, Sam Steele and Fabrege.

Bill Mullholland died a couple of weeks ago, so I don't know what will happen to the stallions, or if his daughter will carry on.

Warcloud stands in CA.

[talloaks]

Merlin went back to Windswept in CN where he stands with the Mulholland's other three stallions; Wellesley, Sam Steele and Fabrege.

Bill Mullholland died a couple of weeks ago, so I don't know what will happen to the stallions, or if his daughter will carry on.

Warcloud stands in CA.


ahf, do you mean his daughter in law?

[not again]

Waldaire did the 100 dt and has since gone on to compete through Grand Prix, as well as siring the top foal in NA last year.

[talloaks]

Waldaire did the 100 dt and has since gone on to compete through Grand Prix, as well as siring the top foal in NA last year.


In what registry was your foal the top foal in NA??? My Sandro Hit colt Sandro Flik was the highest scoring foal in NA for the OldenburgNA. What were your foals scores?

[Justbay1]

Staccato, by Idocus, completed the 100 DT in 2002, I think it was. He is cuurently competing Prix St George with Jim Koford. http://www.terraceiafarm.com/

[Sonesta]

OOOO! I did LOVE Staccato at his final days of testing. What a looker!

[RedMare01]

I really like the looks of Galeno Tyme. Does he have any babies on the ground?

Caitlin

[misita]

Yes. Galeno Tyme does have babies on the ground. www.galenotyme.com

www.hiddenvalleyfarms.net

[risingstarfarm]

I'd like to add to my comments about Caleb.

I was at the Region 9 Championships today and saw Caleb handily win his South West Dressage Championship 3rd level (junior, no less) with a score of 64.7%. He also was Reserve Champion in the GAIC 4th level (junior again) with a score of 63.049%. I don't know what his other scores were.

I also had the pleasure of getting to "know" him. At one point, there were too many horses and not enough hands - and I ended up holding him while he had his polos put on. What a sweetie! He really has a lovely temperament.

I'm a stallion owner and I must admit that I was mentally going through my broodmare band - trying to figure out if I had a date for him ;-)

[STF]

I have the 100DT test of Caleb and I honestly liked hin alot. There was some negative crap going on about him at one time that I did not understand because he is really a nice stallion, IMO!
Congrats to Claire, Ellen and Caleb for their sucesses!
Oh, yeah......... and your mare CinB, didnt do to bad either Ms. Ronda!! ;)

[HFSH]

I saw Caleb at his stallion test. I picked him after Galeno Tyme. Both were very impressive!

[Piaffe~Passage]

I have really loved this topic. I'd love to hear more about all of the stallions, and please do list the websites if available.

[Vineyard Eventing]

Here's the most complete list I have found of websites associated with the stallions in the test... Good greif! 3 more days 'til I'm there for my boy!!! :eek:

Amadeus www.topnotchfarm.net
Reuben SF www.serpentinefarm.com
Vinca www.flowerfarmhorses.com
Wamberto www.harmonysporthorses.net
Worthy Opponent www.vineyardeventing.com
Fielding www.autumnhillfarm.com
Furst Impression www.hphanoverians.com
Highlight www.oakhillranch.com
Gatsby www.foxdalefarm.us
Bravo www.hiddenvalleyfarms.net
Rapture R www.rapturer.com

[szipi]

As a lot of you know, Lotus suffered some terrible injuries at the 100-day testing in 2002, still finishing 3rd. It took us 3 years of intensive therapy to make him rideable again....but he never looked back. In 2006 he was champion at the HITS in the level 2 jumpers and was a top performer in the first and second year green working hunters. In 2007 he started competing in the jumper ring at levels 5-7, placing in several $5K mini prixs. He is also cshooling 3rd level in dressage. He sired numerous premium offspring for both the Holsteiners and the Belgian Warmbloods - and his first babies are very successful competitors. www.prairiepinesfarm.com

[Tiki]

In what registry was your foal the top foal in NA??? My Sandro Hit colt Sandro Flik was the highest scoring foal in NA for the OldenburgNA. What were your foals scores?Well that was pretty confrontational Bernie. Did you ever consider that the foal may have been registered with a different registry than yours????? :yes:

[talloaks]

Well that was pretty confrontational Bernie. Did you ever consider that the foal may have been registered with a different registry than yours????? :yes:

No really Tiki, I would hate to be writing incorrect info, if that were the case. The foal mentioned is in the AWR registry.
I really don't know which registries in NA give scores at their inspections, so now we can add AWR to RPSI, NAWPN & ISR/OLDNA. Do you Tiki know of any others???

[Tiki]

NAWPN does score the foals, but I'm not sure they make them public. The inspection I went to in September the inspector said they would not publish them as it is only a day in a foal's life, and they only use them internally to decide who the top foals (of their inspection day) are.

Yes, AWR, ISR/OLNA and RPSI. I'm pretty sure Belgian WB scores foals. Never been to other breed inspections, but I do know that the GOV, AHS don't.

Don't know about AHHS, Swedish WB, Selle Francais, Westfalen, Danish WB or Trakehner,

[talloaks]

Yes the Selle Francais score their foals. My 2007 filly's dam is elite Selle Francias. I think it is important to be scored by an inspector who inspects and judges hundreds of foals a year, and feel it is a more representative scoring that what one would get one day at a breed show. But we feel the registries who do not score are doing their foals a disservice. Owners could have a better chance of becoming "barn blind" when they don't have scores and itemized scores, to judge their foals. Waiting for 3 years for mare book placing could result in a lot more poor matings. Now for those who have paid their dues as far as breeding, know what to look for themselves, so it is more unfair for people new to breeding. JMHO FWIW and probably not much!!:lol:

[DownYonder]

But we feel the registries who do not score are doing their foals a disservice. Owners could have a better chance of becoming "barn blind" when they don't have scores and itemized scores, to judge their foals.

I'm not sure I can agree with you on this point. As stated, Hanover and Oldenburg do not score foals, either here or in Germany, and one would be hard pressed to argue with their success. And, as I pointed out on another thread, Oldenburg inspectors feel that foal quality has been steadily rising each year in N.A., so apparently the system is working just fine even without foal scoring.

[Vineyard Eventing]

AHHA scores and publishes their foals.

[Hocus Focus]

Isaiah...(Ideal x Fatalist mare) 2004. A very appealing all around type stallion owned by Mission Bay Farm. He has had competition success both in dressage and eventing with a bit less promotional push in the past year as his owner took some time off to have a child of her own.

Really super person for dealing with by the way with regards to service. I truly cannot say enough good things in this regard. Thank you for a most pleasant experience, and my first as a hobby breeder.

In my profile, the colt pictured is the result of an Isaiah breeding to my Main Mare Book Thoroughbred mare. Isaiah definitely added in areas "Madge" lacked. He is growing up at Amulette Farm in Columbia, Missouri along with his dam and my other Main Mare Book Tb mare, "Moon". Both mares are currently in foal for 2008 to approved ISR Oldenburg stallion Corcovado (by performance results). He stands at Veritas Farm and currently competes at PSG with Anke Boersna. To date a textbook pregnancy and keeping all fingers crossed for safe, healthy foals in 2008.

[Faiths CremelloWB]

Arts Aero is still standing with us at Blazing Colours Farm. He is also competing and this year did the summer Spruce Meadows Tour. He concluded the series going double clear on the final day and placing 4th. He Here is a YouTube video of his first round. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-docwahMvbY He is a fabulous jumper and I have even done some eventing on him for fun. He competed in the Jumpers this past year with Kim Farlinger (a student of Jill Henselwood) He is a fabulous horse and I am excited about his future in the show ring, after all he is only 7.

[Brutust]

Here's the most complete list I have found of websites associated with the stallions in the test... Good greif! 3 more days 'til I'm there for my boy!!! :eek:

Amadeus www.topnotchfarm.net
Reuben SF www.serpentinefarm.com
Vinca www.flowerfarmhorses.com
Wamberto www.harmonysporthorses.net
Worthy Opponent www.vineyardeventing.com
Fielding www.autumnhillfarm.com
Furst Impression www.hphanoverians.com
Highlight www.oakhillranch.com
Gatsby www.foxdalefarm.us
Bravo www.hiddenvalleyfarms.net
Rapture R www.rapturer.com


Here is another one: Sir Wanabi

http://www.laprisestable.com/index.html

[Touchstone Farm]

I'm not sure I can agree with you on this point. As stated, Hanover and Oldenburg do not score foals, either here or in Germany, and one would be hard pressed to argue with their success. And, as I pointed out on another thread, Oldenburg inspectors feel that foal quality has been steadily rising each year in N.A., so apparently the system is working just fine even without foal scoring.

DownYonder, I absolutely agree with you and disagree strongly with talloaks. (Not that I mean to sidetrack this thread.) I feel the AHS is correct in not scoring foals. When you go to inspections, you are dealing with foals that are a few days old to those that are 7+ months. Hardly an "equivalent" playing field. In addition, I have seen "premium" foals later...when they are three years old...and you couldn't give them to me for free! I'm sure the owners of those foals that are scored "premium" are super pleased because they can use it as a marketing angle, but...those that aren't scored a premium can absolutely be super foals, just not at a good point to be seen. And as you said, DownYonder, you can hardly argue with the success of the Hanoverians and other breed registries that don't score foals either.

[talloaks]

DownYonder, I absolutely agree with you and disagree strongly with talloaks. (Not that I mean to sidetrack this thread.) I feel the AHS is correct in not scoring foals. When you go to inspections, you are dealing with foals that are a few days old to those that are 7+ months. Hardly an "equivalent" playing field. In addition, I have seen "premium" foals later...when they are three years old...and you couldn't give them to me for free! I'm sure the owners of those foals that are scored "premium" are super pleased because they can use it as a marketing angle, but...those that aren't scored a premium can absolutely be super foals, just not at a good point to be seen. And as you said, DownYonder, you can hardly argue with the success of the Hanoverians and other breed registries that don't score foals either.


Touchstone Farm, what is the difference of having a foal scored at its inspection and taking it to a breeding show like Devon??? There are plenty of entries at Devon of all ages too. So please tell me the difference???

[Marydell]

Perhaps I can help answer that one.
When a breed inspector gives a "score" it is usually written on the foal's papers or published somewhere where other breeders can see and make a judgement about that particular foal based on respect for the registry and how it goes about doing it's business. But that comment or score becomes part of that foal's lifelong history.
Going to a breed show, regardless of if it is Devon or any other, everyone is aware of the philosophy of "judging the horse in that moment in time" and take placings and scores as just that, a reflection of a"moment in a lifetime" .
Keep in mind that not only does any creature have a bad day once in a while, but you (with foals) are talking about growth handicaps. The prime example being a 3 week old or even a 3 month old at the peak of it's conformation and potential, but a 7 month old will be croup high, effecting conformation scores. And because of the mechanics, effecting the movement because the forehand will be carrying more than the normal amount of weight and both the elasticity and freedom of shoulder are restricted- not really what that particular foal is capable of.

This is why some registries do not score foals. Not fair to carry the lack of a high score or "premium" rating if that foal was inspected on an "off" day or bad timing in the growth stage.

Maryanna Haymon
www.marydellfarm.com

[DownYonder]

That's a great explanation, Maryanna. Also, foal inspections are mandatory in some registries, while breed shows are done at the breeder's discretion. A breeder can pull their foal from a show if it is in an awkward growth phase, but when inspection time rolls around, the breeder pretty much HAS to take the foal, no matter how wonky it looks.

[talloaks]

Breed registry scores do show the date of the inspection and scoring and also the birth date of the foal, so if anyone thinks they were poorly judged, they have the explanation of the date of birth, inspection. I believe in the foal scoring at foal inspections and if others don't feel that way, its their decision.

[DownYonder]

So Bernie, I guess you won't be bringing that Quaterback foal to Oldenburg, after all. Should have figured. :lol:

[Home Again Farm]

I have observed many inspections where foals are scored and many where they are not. IMHO, scores are no more useful than the lenghthy and thorough critiques that are made by AHS inspectors on foals. In fact, I always tape my foals' comments and go back to study them when planning future breedings for their dams.

Registries that score foals are fine, but I strongly disagree that a registry is remiss by not scoring them as long as they are critiqued and the breeder gets useful feedback on the result of their breeding decisions.

[STF]

Foals change so much and so quickly.
They look and move so different from 3 to 5 months.
I dont hold "foal scores" very high when looking at a horse to purchase due to that.

[talloaks]

Let's face it, there are a lot of new breeders, and some long time breeders too I suspect, that have never developed an "eye" for horses/foals. In that respect, a score sheet versus a verbal comment, is more beneficial in the long run. What comments someone utters can be easily forgotten or misunderstood in time.

[Edgewood]

Let's face it, there are a lot of new breeders, and some long time breeders too I suspect, that have never developed an "eye" for horses/foals. In that respect, a score sheet versus a verbal comment, is more beneficial in the long run. What comments someone utters can be easily forgotten or misunderstood in time.


Talloaks, you may be correct, and you may not be.:D I guess you can say to each his own and that is WHY we have several registries that fulfill different peoples' needs. I for one do not feel foals should be scored but would rather get extensive comments (ie, I belong to AHS). I put much more stock in the comments at the 3 yo inspection than I ever would with a foal.

So we will all have to agree to disagree on some subjects.;)

[talloaks]

Talloaks, you may be correct, and you may not be.:D I guess you can say to each his own and that is WHY we have several registries that fulfill different peoples' needs. I for one do not feel foals should be scored but would rather get extensive comments (ie, I belong to AHS). I put much more stock in the comments at the 3 yo inspection than I ever would with a foal.

So we will all have to agree to disagree on some subjects.;)


One thing I am concerned about in your theory of waiting for the 3 year old comments would be the number of breedings done between foaling and the 3 year old inspection. What if the results are 3 are not so good and the breedings had been repeated as many as 3 or 4 times. Now of course if the mare is wonderful, that is super! Remember now geldings don't have the 3 year inspection so no one ever knows how good they are or how poor they are and very few colts will go to stallion inspections, so that leaves a lot of young horses without any professional analysis from a registry inspector. Not talking about breed shows or performance now.

[Edgewood]

One thing I am concerned about in your theory of waiting for the 3 year old comments would be the number of breedings done between foaling and the 3 year old inspection. What if the results are 3 are not so good and the breedings had been repeated as many as 3 or 4 times. Now of course if the mare, remember now geldings don't have the 3 year inspection so no one ever knows how good they are or how poor they are and very few colts will go to stallion inspections, so that leaves a lot of young horses without any professional analysis from a registry inspector. Not talking about breed shows or performance now.

Again, we will have to agree to disagree. AHS clearly provides a "professional analysis" they just do not give a score but give extensive commentary. So how is that "leaving a lot of young horses without any professional analysis"?

And, in the AHS, you cannot actually breed your mare before inspection and expect to register the foal. So for my registry, what you are proposing really isn't an issue. And even if you are not an AHS member, I doubt very highly that many breeders breed their mare 3 or 4 times before she is 3 years of age ??:no: Especially since the inspections ususally occur early in the year, so most mares are just turning 3 years of age. Even if you were doing ET, most breeders are not going to breed a 3 year old 3 or 4 times (even if a surrogate would be carrying the foals).

Of note, here are the rules for AHS from the website:
Eligibility for Inspection
To enter the breeding program, mares and eligible stallions must be inspected for approval as breeding stock. Registered mares three years of age or older must be inspected and entered into a section of the studbook before their foals can be registered. No mare can be inspected without the original registration papers.

[talloaks]

[quote=Edgewood;2865787]And, in the AHS, you cannot actually breed your mare before inspection and expect to register the foal. So for my registry, what you are proposing really isn't an issue. And even if you are not an AHS member, I doubt very highly that many breeders breed their mare 3 or 4 times before she is 3 years of age ??:no: Especially since the inspections ususally occur early in the year, so most mares are just turning 3 years of age. Even if you were doing ET, most breeders are not going to breed a 3 year old 3 or 4 times (even if a surrogate would be carrying the foals).


Edgewood, you completely misunderstood my point. I am not talking about the mare at 3 who is being inspected for her mare book, but her dam!! Its the dam who is being rebred maybe 3 times before you get the analysis of her offspring.

[siegi b.]

The Dutch offer yet another variety.... :-) They will give the foal a 1st, 2nd, or 3rd premium rating WITH extensive comments. Foal inspection, however, is not mandatory. :-)

[Edgewood]

Edgewood, you completely misunderstood my point. I am not talking about the mare at 3 who is being inspected for her mare book, but her dam!! Its the dam who is being rebred maybe 3 times before you get the analysis of her offspring.

Okay, I admit that I misunderstood your intial quote, that is the problem with the internet at times, what is clear to you when you type it is not always clear to the reader.

But, again to my point (as well as HAF, STF, Down Yonder, Touchstone, and others), you don't need a score to have a "professional assessment" of the offspring. AHS give extensive comments, both GOOD and BAD, about the foal, so you definitely would have an idea about whether it was a good cross or not. As HAF said, she records the comments of every one of her foals and uses those comments as she makes decisions for future matches for her mares. Many of us do that.

As I said from the outset, that is why we have several registries - for whatever you like and/or need in a registry. In your case you want scores for foals, however, others do not need that and prefer just the extensive comments. (As I said at the outset, we agree to disagree). And BTW, I am not the only one saying that I do not feel grading of foals is necessary, but I am the one you latched on to disagree with.

[talloaks]

(As I said at the outset, we agree to disagree). And BTW, I am not the only one saying that I do not feel grading of foals is necessary, but I am the one you latched on to disagree with.


Please don't take it personally that I disagree with you. Incidentally I am a current member of AHS, GOV, ISR/OLDNA and a past member of the NA/KWPN and NASFA and have been to many inspections since I've been around a long time!!;)

[Hocus Focus]

I certainly hope that is settled! LOL

Somewhere buried beneath all of this discussion was a thread about Stallions who did the 100 day test. I seem to have almost forgotten that in reading through.

Has anyone heard what Isaiah is doing as of late? When I look at pictures of him crosscountry, I think, "talent!" He has considerable capability in dressage as well. Just curious if he will continue to be moved up. I would think the eventing people might have been taken notice of him. Am I wrong?

[KitterCritter]

HF - I looked it up for you. Eventing can be found at www.useventing.com and H/J and dressage at www.usef.org

He did a HT in 2005 (Open Novice) and placed 7 and out of 24. That is the only result listed on the USEA site.

His last dressage results (per USEF site) were at 1st level in November of 2006.

Hope that helps.

[Sonesta]

Remember, too, HF, that Isaiah's owner just had a baby. So, she's had a lot on her plate lately and may not have been able to get him shown as much as she'd otherwise have liked.

[showjumpers66]

Cathalido did the 100-day test in 2004, the short version. He is competing in the jumpers and did his first level 6 class last week. It has been slowing going as we had to re-start him and have had several trainer changes, but we are on the right track now and we should have him doing mini-Prixs in 2008.

[STF]

Remember, too, HF, that Isaiah's owner just had a baby. So, she's had a lot on her plate lately and may not have been able to get him shown as much as she'd otherwise have liked.


I cant tell you first hand that a baby or babies, certainly change things.
:sadsmile:

[Hocus Focus]

Regardlless of credentials or if mom has time to do it, I believe him to be a wonderful stallion and her an incredible lady. All the best to them. She is a class act.

[YankeeLawyer]

Perhaps I can help answer that one.
When a breed inspector gives a "score" it is usually written on the foal's papers or published somewhere where other breeders can see and make a judgement about that particular foal based on respect for the registry and how it goes about doing it's business. But that comment or score becomes part of that foal's lifelong history.
Going to a breed show, regardless of if it is Devon or any other, everyone is aware of the philosophy of "judging the horse in that moment in time" and take placings and scores as just that, a reflection of a"moment in a lifetime" .
Keep in mind that not only does any creature have a bad day once in a while, but you (with foals) are talking about growth handicaps. The prime example being a 3 week old or even a 3 month old at the peak of it's conformation and potential, but a 7 month old will be croup high, effecting conformation scores. And because of the mechanics, effecting the movement because the forehand will be carrying more than the normal amount of weight and both the elasticity and freedom of shoulder are restricted- not really what that particular foal is capable of.

This is why some registries do not score foals. Not fair to carry the lack of a high score or "premium" rating if that foal was inspected on an "off" day or bad timing in the growth stage.

Maryanna Haymon
www.marydellfarm.com

I agree. And consistent with the above, if the foal is very young or at an awkward growth stage, you can choose not to show it at Devon or elsewhere.

I have also seen a number of instances at inspections where a completely spectacular foal goes in and runs and plays, and barely offers even a few trot steps, or simply does not show off its gaits well, resulting in a score that is not very indicative of the quality. In other instances, I have seen politics play a role.

Finally, while it is true that the AHS does not score foals, at the inspections I have attended, the inspectors have given comprehensive comments on the foals, which is helpful.

[Hocus Focus]

And off we go again..... Wheeeeeeeee!!!!!!!

[YankeeLawyer]

And off we go again..... Wheeeeeeeee!!!!!!!

Sorry; I didn't realize there were multiple posts to the same effect.

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Put me on the list of having an actual human baby and not getting to show as planned.

We had Palladio in the 2004 testing, finished 5th dressage/6th jumping. He's shown level 5's before the test and did the Regular Working Hunters at winter circuit after the test. With the baby this past year and a few other things we just stayed home in 2007...

Now we are hoping to head back out for some showing this spring/summer...very hard to do with a stallion showing/traveling while breeding and providing great service to mare owners....this will keep our showing somewhat limited during spring and summer as mare owners come first that time of year.... but hopefully we can hit a couple extra shows in the late summer and maybe winter circuit once human baby is a little older (and money falls from the sky on request like I keep asking it to!!! :))