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Little Indian

Oct. 21, 2007, 01:03 PM

A fire has consumed 500 plus acres so far. Pepperdine University has been evacuated and all Malibu and Kanan, Malibu, and Topanga barns have been told to evacuate their horses and other large animals. Hodge's Castle has burned to the ground as well as Malibu Church. Please send jingles to Daytimedrama. They have no power and are waiting on being told to evacuate themselves and their three dogs. The fire has already jumped PCH. In the time that I have written this, a home on the beach has begun to burn.

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Humane Society of the United States
http://www.hsus.org/
Petco
http://www.petco.com/
http://www.petco.com/Content/Donations.aspx?PC=donations&Nav=394&cm_re=oct3102307-_-wildfires-_-topstripe
San Diego Foundation
http://www.sdfoundation.org/fire2007/
Petsmart Disaster Relief Fund
http://www.petsmartcharities.org/
Stateline Tack Disaster Relief Fund
http://www.statelinetack.com
USEF DISASTER RELIEF FUND
http://www.usef.org/_IFrames/newsDisplay/viewPR.aspx?id=2550
Santa Clarita Disaster Relief Fund
http://www.santa-clarita.com/news/fire.asp#donation
Foundation For Pierce College Equine Emergency Fund
http://www.piercecollege.edu
Mail to: Foundation for Pierce College
6201 Winnetka Ave., Woodland Hills, CA 91371
(818) 703-0826

UPDATE OCTOBER 23
Here is a NOT COMPLETE list of the homes lost in San Diego County (thank you CA ASB)

11072 IPAI CT, SAN DIEGO 92127
11279 CAPILLA RD, SAN DIEGO 92127
11323 CRECIENTE CT, SAN DIEGO 92127
11353 LUZ PL, SAN DIEGO 92127
11363 LUZ PL, SAN DIEGO 92127
11373 LUZ PL, SAN DIEGO 92127
11389 PAJARO WAY, SAN DIEGO 92127
11419 DUENDA RD, SAN DIEGO 92127
11420 LUZ RD, SAN DIEGO 92127
11430 LUZ RD, SAN DIEGO 92127
11448 DUENDA RD, SAN DIEGO 92127
11449 CABELA PL, SAN DIEGO 92127
11454 ALIENTO CT, SAN DIEGO 92127
11457 ALIENTO CT, SAN DIEGO 92127
11458 DUENDA RD, SAN DIEGO 92127
11460 ALCALDE CT, SAN DIEGO 92127
11462 ALIENTO CT, SAN DIEGO 92127
11463 ALIENTO CT, SAN DIEGO 92131
11464 DUENDA RD, SAN DIEGO 92127
11468 DUENDA RD, SAN DIEGO 92128
11469 DUENDA RD, SAN DIEGO 92127
1147 INSPIRATION LN, ESCONDIDO 92025
11476 ALCALDE CT, SAN DIEGO 92127
11478 DUENDA RD, SAN DIEGO 92127
11479 DUENDA RD, SAN DIEGO 92127
11485 PALITO CT, SAN DIEGO 92027
11486 ALIENTO CT, SAN DIEGO 92127
11510 DUENDA RD, SAN DIEGO 92127
11512 ALIENTO CT, SAN DIEGO 92127
11513 ALIENTO CT, SAN DIEGO 92127
11517 DANZA CIR, SAN DIEGO 92127
11519 PALITO CT, SAN DIEGO 92127
11523 ALIENTO CT, SAN DIEGO 92127
11524 DANZA CIR, SAN DIEGO 92082
11529 PALITO CT, SAN DIEGO 92127
1153 INSPIRATION LN, ESCONDIDO 92025
11533 ALIENTO CT, SAN DIEGO 92127
11534 DANZA CIR, SAN DIEGO 92127
11534 ESCOBA PL, SAN DIEGO 92127
11536 PALITO CT, SAN DIEGO 92127
11539 PALITO CT, SAN DIEGO 92127
11552 ALIENTO CT, SAN DIEGO 92127
11656 ANDANZA WAY, SAN DIEGO 92129
11666 ANDANZA WAY, SAN DIEGO 92128
11666 JOCATAL CT, SAN DIEGO 92127
11676 ANDANZA WAY, SAN DIEGO 92127
11686 JOCATAL CT, SAN DIEGO 92127
11691 AGRESTE PL, SAN DIEGO 92127
12 COACH RD, ESCONDIDO 92033
12464 CLOUDESLY DR, SAN DIEGO 92128
12515 CLOUDESLY DR, SAN DIEGO 92128
12523 CLOUDESLY DR, SAN DIEGO 92128
12524 CLOUDESLY DR, SAN DIEGO 92128
12532 CHETENHAM LN, SAN DIEGO 92128
12535 CLOUDESLY DR, SAN DIEGO 92128
12546 CLOUDESLY DR, SAN DIEGO 92128
12554 CLOUDESLY DR, SAN DIEGO 92128
12566 CLOUDESLY DR, SAN DIEGO 63367
12571 CLOUDESLY DR, SAN DIEGO 92128
12572 CLOUDESLY DR, SAN DIEGO 92128
12579 CLOUDESLY DR, SAN DIEGO 92128
12580 CHETENHAM LN, SAN DIEGO 92128
12595 CLOUDESLY DR, SAN DIEGO 92128
12613 BEDFORDSHIRE CT, SAN DIEGO 92128
12808 LUNADA PL, SAN DIEGO 92111
12841 LUNADA PL, SAN DIEGO 92128
12850 LUNADA PL, SAN DIEGO 92128
12898 LUNADA PL, SAN DIEGO 92128
12899 CAMINO RAMILLETTE, SAN DIEGO 92128
12913 POLVERA CT, SAN DIEGO 92128
12922 POLVERA CT, SAN DIEGO 92128
12923 POLVERA CT, SAN DIEGO 92128
12929 ANGOSTO WAY, SAN DIEGO 92128
12929 POLVERA AVE, SAN DIEGO 92128
12938 ANGOSTO WAY, SAN DIEGO 92128
12939 POLVERA AVE, SAN DIEGO 92128
12942 POLVERA CT, SAN DIEGO 92128
12943 POLVERA CT, SAN DIEGO 92109
12949 ANGOSTO WAY, SAN DIEGO 92128
12958 ANGOSTO WAY, SAN DIEGO 92128
12958 POLVERA AVE, SAN DIEGO 92074
12958 ROBLEDA CV, SAN DIEGO 92128
12968 ANGOSTO WAY, SAN DIEGO 92127
12969 ANGOSTO WAY, SAN DIEGO 92128
12986 POLVERA AVE, SAN DIEGO 92128
12988 ANGOSTO WAY, SAN DIEGO 92128
13013 POLVERA AVE, SAN DIEGO 92128
13023 POLVERA AVE, SAN DIEGO 92128
13033 AGUAMARINA PT, SAN DIEGO 92128
13034 POLVERA AVE, SAN DIEGO 92128
13044 POLVERA AVE, SAN DIEGO 92029
13053 POLVERA AVE, SAN DIEGO 92128
13054 POLVERA AVE, SAN DIEGO 92128
13084 POLVERA AVE, SAN DIEGO 92128
13103 POLVERA AVE, SAN DIEGO 92128
13104 POLVERA AVE, SAN DIEGO 92198
13113 POLVERA AVE, SAN DIEGO 92128
13123 POLVERA AVE, SAN DIEGO 92128
13130 CAMINO RAMILLETTE, SAN DIEGO 92128
13140 CAMINO RAMILLETTE, SAN DIEGO 44505
13145 CAMINO RAMILLETTE, SAN DIEGO 92128
13164 POLVERA AVE, SAN DIEGO 92128
13210 HIGHLANDS RANCH RD, POWAY 92064
13220 HIGHLANDS RANCH RD, POWAY 92064
13411 ST ANDREWS PL, POWAY 92064
1350 SIERRA LINDA DR, ESCONDIDO 92025
13502 OLD WINERY RD, POWAY 92064
13541 OLD WINERY RD, POWAY 92064
13956 SAGEWOOD DR, POWAY 92064
14310 HORIZON CT, POWAY 92064
14325 HORIZON CT, POWAY 92064
14326 HORIZON CT, POWAY 92064
14341 TWISTED BRANCH RD, POWAY 92064
14342 HORIZON CT, POWAY 92064
1435 QUEENSTON DR, ESCONDIDO 92027
14366 TWISTED BRANCH RD, POWAY 92064
14376 TWISTED BRANCH RD, POWAY 92064
14386 TWISTED BRANCH RD, POWAY 92064
14390 CHEYENNE TRL, POWAY 92064
14440 CHEYENNE TRL, POWAY 92064
14445 CHEYENNE TRL, POWAY 92064
14465 CHEYENNE TRL, POWAY 92064
14650 VALLEYVIEW RD, POWAY 92064
14865 GAVAN VISTA RD, POWAY 92064
14868 HIGH VALLEY RD, POWAY 92064
14908 GAVAN VISTA RD, POWAY 92064
14935 GAVAN VISTA RD, POWAY 92064
14936 GAVAN VISTA RD, POWAY 92064
14960 OAK TRAIL CT, POWAY 92064
15042 OAK CANYON RD, POWAY 92074
15064 OAK CANYON RD, POWAY 92064
15076 EASTVALE RD, POWAY 92064
15106 EASTVALE RD, POWAY 92064
15114 OAK CANYON RD, POWAY 92064
15134 OAK CANYON RD, POWAY 92065
15140 SKYRIDGE RD, POWAY 92064
15159 SKYRIDGE RD, POWAY 92064
15204 SKYRIDGE RD, POWAY 92064
15210 SKYRIDGE RD, POWAY 92074
15223 SKYRIDGE RD, POWAY 92064
15231 SKYRIDGE RD, POWAY 92126
15250 SKYRIDGE RD, POWAY 92064
15257 SKYRIDGE RD, POWAY 92064
15325 SKYRIDGE RD, POWAY 92123
15362 SKYRIDGE RD, POWAY 92064
15380 OAK CANYON RD, POWAY 92074
15460 MARKAR RD, POWAY 92064
15518 MARKAR RD, POWAY 92064
15606 QUAIL MOUNTAIN RD, POWAY 92074
16501 ZUMAQUE ST, UNINCORPORATED 92067
16526 ZUMAQUE ST, UNINCORPORATED 92122
16583 ZUMAQUE ST, UNINCORPORATED 92067
16729 ZUMAQUE ST, UNINCORPORATED 92067
16755 ZUMAQUE ST, UNINCORPORATED 92067
16827 VIA DE LA VALLE, UNINCORPORATED 92067
16843 VIA DE SANTA FE, UNINCORPORATED 92067
16924 AVENIDA LUIS, UNINCORPORATED 92067
16951 OLD COACH RD, POWAY 92064
17087 OLD COACH RD, POWAY 92108
17116 EL VUELO, UNINCORPORATED 92067
17122 EL MIRADOR, UNINCORPORATED 92067
17474 OLD COACH RD, POWAY 92128
17605 VALLADARES DR, SAN DIEGO 92127
17608 MATINAL DR, SAN DIEGO 92127
17616 MATINAL DR, SAN DIEGO 92127
17616 VALLADARES DR, SAN DIEGO 92127
17635 VALLADARES DR, SAN DIEGO 92127
17651 BOCA RATON LN, POWAY 92064
17660 ST ANDREWS DR, POWAY 92064
17661 BOCA RATON LN, POWAY 92173
17664 ST ANDREWS DR, POWAY 92064
17704 ST ANDREWS DR, POWAY 92064
17714 ST ANDREWS DR, POWAY 92064
17716 CRECIENTE WAY, SAN DIEGO 92127
17719 DEL PASO DR, POWAY 92064
17728 ST ANDREWS DR, POWAY 92064
17749 ST ANDREWS DR, POWAY 92064
17754 ST ANDREWS DR, POWAY 92064
17757 DEL PASO DR, POWAY 92196
17777 CRECIENTE WAY, SAN DIEGO 92127
17778 AGUAMIEL RD, SAN DIEGO 92127
17783 WEAVING LN, SAN DIEGO 92127
17786 AGUAMIEL RD, SAN DIEGO 92127
17787 CRECIENTE WAY, SAN DIEGO 92127
17788 VALLADARES DR, SAN DIEGO 92130
17794 AGUAMIEL RD, SAN DIEGO 92198
17808 AZUCAR WAY, SAN DIEGO 92127
17808 CORAZON PL, SAN DIEGO 92103
17814 AGUAMIEL RD, SAN DIEGO 92127
17816 AZUCAR WAY, SAN DIEGO 92127
17818 CORAZON PL, SAN DIEGO 92127
17820 JOYAS CT, POWAY 92064
17824 AZUCAR WAY, SAN DIEGO 92127
17825 AGUAMIEL RD, SAN DIEGO 92127
17837 CORAZON PL, SAN DIEGO 92127
17838 AGUAMIEL RD, SAN DIEGO 92127
17838 CORAZON PL, SAN DIEGO 92127
17841 AGUAMIEL RD, SAN DIEGO 92127
17844 ST ANDREWS DR, POWAY 92064
17848 VALLADARES DR, SAN DIEGO 92127
17849 AZUCAR WAY, SAN DIEGO 92127
17857 CORAZON PL, SAN DIEGO 92127
17858 CORAZON PL, SAN DIEGO 92127
17864 AZUCAR WAY, SAN DIEGO 92127
17865 AGUAMIEL RD, SAN DIEGO 92127
17865 AZUCAR WAY, SAN DIEGO 92127
17867 AGUACATE WAY, SAN DIEGO 92127
17867 JOYAS CT, POWAY 92064
17868 ST ANDREWS DR, POWAY 92064
17873 AGUAMIEL RD, SAN DIEGO 92127
17877 CORAZON PL, SAN DIEGO 92127
17878 CORAZON PL, SAN DIEGO 92127
17881 AGUAMIEL RD, SAN DIEGO 95014
17885 AZUCAR WAY, SAN DIEGO 92127
17887 AGUACATE WAY, SAN DIEGO 92127
17893 PUEBLO VISTA LN, SAN DIEGO 92127
17897 CORAZON PL, SAN DIEGO 92127
17898 CORAZON PL, SAN DIEGO 92127
17899 JOYAS CT, POWAY 92064
17905 AGUAMIEL RD, SAN DIEGO 92127
17913 AGUAMIEL RD, SAN DIEGO 92127
17927 CORAZON PL, SAN DIEGO 92172
17938 AGUAMIEL RD, SAN DIEGO 92127
17941 AGUAMIEL RD, SAN DIEGO 92127
17942 AGUAMIEL RD, SAN DIEGO 92127
17943 CABELA DR, SAN DIEGO 92127
17946 AGUAMIEL RD, SAN DIEGO 92127
17947 AGUAMIEL RD, SAN DIEGO 92127
17947 CORAZON PL, SAN DIEGO 92127
17948 CORAZON PL, SAN DIEGO 92127
17952 AGUAMIEL RD, SAN DIEGO 92127
17952 HIGHLANDS RANCH PL, POWAY 33140
17953 CIELO CT, POWAY 92064
17955 AGUAMIEL RD, SAN DIEGO 92127
17960 AGUAMIEL RD, SAN DIEGO 92127
17961 AGUAMIEL RD, SAN DIEGO 92127
17961 CABELA DR, SAN DIEGO 92127
17967 AGUAMIEL RD, SAN DIEGO 92127
17968 AGUAMIEL RD, SAN DIEGO 92105
17975 CIELO CT, POWAY 92064
17978 AGUAMIEL RD, SAN DIEGO 92127
17979 HIGHLANDS RANCH PL, POWAY 92064
17982 HIGHLANDS RANCH PL, POWAY 92064
17987 CABELA DR, SAN DIEGO 92127
17988 AGUAMIEL RD, SAN DIEGO 92127
17995 CABELA DR, SAN DIEGO 92127
17998 AGUAMIEL RD, SAN DIEGO 92127
18013 CABELA DR, SAN DIEGO 92127
18025 POLVERA WAY, SAN DIEGO 92128
18028 AGUAMIEL RD, SAN DIEGO 92064
18034 VIA TARIFA, SAN DIEGO 92128
18049 OLD COACH RD, POWAY 92064
18054 CALLE ESTEPONA, SAN DIEGO 92128
18055 POLVERA WAY, SAN DIEGO 99203
18064 CALLE ESTEPONA, SAN DIEGO 92128
18111 OLD COACH RD, POWAY 92064
18116 OLD COACH RD, POWAY 92064
18118 OLD COACH RD, POWAY 92064
18147 VALLADARES DR, SAN DIEGO 92127
18157 VALLADARES DR, SAN DIEGO 22315
18159 OLD COACH RD, POWAY 92064
18167 VALLADARES DR, SAN DIEGO 92126
18175 CORTE DE ACEITUNOS, SAN DIEGO 92128
18177 VALLADARES DR, SAN DIEGO 92127
18181 CORTE DE ACEITUNOS, SAN DIEGO 92128
18181 SUN MAIDEN CT, SAN DIEGO 92127
18185 CHIEFTAIN CT, SAN DIEGO 92127
18187 CORTE DE ACEITUNOS, SAN DIEGO 92128
18187 SUN MAIDEN CT, SAN DIEGO 92127
18187 VALLADARES DR, SAN DIEGO 92075
18188 VALLADARES DR, SAN DIEGO 92127
18198 VALLADARES DR, SAN DIEGO 92127
18201 OLD COACH RD, POWAY 92064
18255 HADDEN HALL CT, SAN DIEGO 92128
18275 CANFIELD PL, SAN DIEGO 92128
18278 CANFIELD PL, SAN DIEGO 92128
18285 MOON SONG CT, SAN DIEGO 92127
18295 CANFIELD PL, SAN DIEGO 92128
18298 CANFIELD PL, SAN DIEGO 92128
18328 LINCOLNSHIRE ST, SAN DIEGO 92128
18336 LINCOLNSHIRE ST, SAN DIEGO 92115
18344 LINCOLNSHIRE ST, SAN DIEGO 92128
18372 DEER VALLEY ESTS, POWAY 92064
18375 BERNARDO TRAILS CT, SAN DIEGO 92128
18379 HAMPSHIRE LN, SAN DIEGO 92128
18390 SYCAMORE CREEK RD, POWAY 92025
18425 AZOFAR CT, SAN DIEGO 92128
18435 AZOFAR CT, SAN DIEGO 92128
18455 BERNARDO TRAILS CT, SAN DIEGO 92128
18490 BERNARDO TRAILS CT, SAN DIEGO 92128
18494 ACEITUNO ST, SAN DIEGO 92128
18515 WESSEX ST, SAN DIEGO 92128
18520 LANCASHIRE WAY, SAN DIEGO 92128
18523 WESSEX ST, SAN DIEGO 92198
18525 ACEITUNO ST, SAN DIEGO 92128
18539 LANCASHIRE WAY, SAN DIEGO 92128
18545 LANCASHIRE WAY, SAN DIEGO 92128
18551 LANCASHIRE WAY, SAN DIEGO 92128
18555 WILD HORSE RD, POWAY 92064
18560 LANCASHIRE WAY, SAN DIEGO 92128
18570 OLD COACH WAY, POWAY 91403
18575 WILD HORSE CREEK, POWAY 92064
18576 LANCASHIRE WAY, SAN DIEGO 92128
18580 LOCKSLEY ST, SAN DIEGO 92128
18584 LANCASHIRE WAY, SAN DIEGO 92128
18587 LANCASHIRE WAY, SAN DIEGO 92128
18588 LOCKSLEY ST, SAN DIEGO 92128
18607 ACEITUNO ST, SAN DIEGO 92128
18608 ROBLEDA CT, SAN DIEGO 92128
18617 LANCASHIRE WAY, SAN DIEGO 92128
18626 LANCASHIRE WAY, SAN DIEGO 92128
18634 LANCASHIRE WAY, SAN DIEGO 92128
18635 LANCASHIRE WAY, SAN DIEGO 92128
18641 LANCASHIRE WAY, SAN DIEGO 92128
18642 LANCASHIRE WAY, SAN DIEGO 92128
18642 LOCKSLEY ST, SAN DIEGO 92128
18643 LOCKSLEY ST, SAN DIEGO 92128
18647 ACEITUNO ST, SAN DIEGO 92128
18647 LANCASHIRE WAY, SAN DIEGO 92128
18650 LANCASHIRE WAY, SAN DIEGO 92128
18653 LANCASHIRE WAY, SAN DIEGO 92128
18658 LANCASHIRE WAY, SAN DIEGO 92128
18658 LOCKSLEY ST, SAN DIEGO 92128
18666 LOCKSLEY ST, SAN DIEGO 92128
18666 WESSEX ST, SAN DIEGO 92128
18667 ACEITUNO ST, SAN DIEGO 92128
18667 LOCKSLEY ST, SAN DIEGO 92128
18670 POLVERA DR, SAN DIEGO 92128
18673 LANCASHIRE WAY, SAN DIEGO 92026
18674 WESSEX ST, SAN DIEGO 92128
18675 AVENIDA CORDILLERA, SAN DIEGO 92128
18682 LANCASHIRE WAY, SAN DIEGO 92128
18682 LOCKSLEY ST, SAN DIEGO 92128
18683 LANCASHIRE WAY, SAN DIEGO 92128
18683 LOCKSLEY ST, SAN DIEGO 92128
18684 BERNARDO TRAILS DR, SAN DIEGO 92128
18687 ACEITUNO ST, SAN DIEGO 92128
18687 ROBLEDA CT, SAN DIEGO 92128
18689 LOCKSLEY ST, SAN DIEGO 92128
18690 LANCASHIRE WAY, SAN DIEGO 92128
18690 POLVERA DR, SAN DIEGO 92128
18697 LOCKSLEY ST, SAN DIEGO 92128
18701 HERITAGE DR, POWAY 92064
18705 POLVERA DR, SAN DIEGO 92128
18707 ACEITUNO ST, SAN DIEGO 92128
18707 OLMEDA PL, SAN DIEGO 92128
18708 OLMEDA PL, SAN DIEGO 92128
18718 LUNADA PT, SAN DIEGO 92128
18735 BERNARDO TRAILS DR, SAN DIEGO 92128
18735 OLD COACH WAY, POWAY 92064
18736 ACEITUNO ST, SAN DIEGO 92128
18750 DEER VALLEY ESTS, POWAY 92064
18770 OLD COACH WAY, POWAY 92064
18787 ACEITUNO ST, SAN DIEGO 92128
18808 BERNARDO TRAILS DR, SAN DIEGO 92128
18808 BRAVATA CT, SAN DIEGO 92128
18828 BRAVATA CT, SAN DIEGO 92108
18829 BERNARDO TRAILS DR, SAN DIEGO 92128
18829 BRAVATA CT, SAN DIEGO 92128
18839 BERNARDO TRAILS DR, SAN DIEGO 92128
19 STONEPOINTE DR, ESCONDIDO 92025
201 CALLE FLORECITA, ESCONDIDO 92029
222 CALLE FLORECITA, ESCONDIDO 92029
3414 LOMAS SERENAS DR, ESCONDIDO 92029
3418 LOMAS SERENAS DR, ESCONDIDO 92029
3425 LOMAS SERENAS DR, ESCONDIDO 92029
3426 LOMAS SERENAS DR, ESCONDIDO 92029
3510 AVENIDA AMOROSA, ESCONDIDO 92029
3522 AVENIDA AMOROSA, ESCONDIDO 92029
3542 AVENIDA AMOROSA, ESCONDIDO 92029
4148 VISTA BONITA LN, ESCONDIDO 92025
4150 VISTA BONITA LN, ESCONDIDO 92025
6125 CAMINO SELVA, UNINCORPORATED 92067
6129 CAMINO SELVA, UNINCORPORATED 92067
6131 CAMINO SELVA, UNINCORPORATED 92067
7035 LAS COLINAS, UNINCORPORATED 92067
7097 VIA MONALEX, UNINCORPORATED 92067
741 FINO GLN, ESCONDIDO 93101
743 FINO GLN, ESCONDIDO 92025
751 FINO GLN, ESCONDIDO 92025
753 FINO GLN, ESCONDIDO 85718
761 FINO GLN, ESCONDIDO 92025
763 FINO GLN, ESCONDIDO 92130

Bugs-n-Frodo

Oct. 21, 2007, 01:25 PM

I just read about this this morning. Jingles!

talloaks

Oct. 21, 2007, 01:57 PM

What a tragedy!! The Malibu area is one of the most scenic areas in CA, I have always wanted to live there but will have to be satisfied with vacations. Jingles for all those in the line of fire!

Little Indian

Oct. 21, 2007, 02:29 PM

1,000 acres have now burned. According to DTD, Malibu hasn't had a really big burn since 1993 so there is a lot of underbrush that will fuel the fire.
Just heard now that the Malibu Animal Hospital has burned now also.

msj

Oct. 21, 2007, 02:57 PM

KristiC

Oct. 21, 2007, 03:03 PM

Ugghhh....I moved to Los Angeles in 1994 shortly after the Malibu fires. It was so sad to drive along PCH and see all of the houses burned with just the chimneys standing. I hope they get everyone(people and animals)out in time. Malibu is such a beautiful place it's such a shame.

Little Indian

Oct. 21, 2007, 03:09 PM

We have mandetory brush clearing, but some people cannot afford to do it.

I just wanted to add that these are not the only fires that are burning. Chatsworth, Camerillo, and Santa Ynez are now burning also.

The fire is currently burning towards DTD's home.

Pronzini

Oct. 21, 2007, 03:33 PM

The homeowners do have mandatory brush clearance and most comply but it doesn't mean much when the winds are whipping around and can send embers a mile down the road. Unfortunately the reality is that these mountains were made to burn. It's part of the ecosystem. People and their animals have put themselves in the way of a very natural process.

BasqueMom

Oct. 21, 2007, 04:11 PM

Crossing fingers, toes, paws and hooves that everyone will by ok! I suppose a rain dance wouldn't hurt either.

Wanderluster

Oct. 21, 2007, 04:37 PM

It is hard to imagine unless you live here and understand the diversity of land and weather conditions that make these fires so destructive. There is currently a fire nearby in the Santa Rosa Valley and I am on standby to evacuate my friend's horses. We live only about a 10 minute drive away but are so far in no danger of approaching fires. Jingles out to DD to keep them safe.

Plumcreek

Oct. 21, 2007, 04:51 PM

Here is the Ventura County newspaper story site:
http://venturacountystar.com/news/2007/oct/21/ventura-county-high-winds-fires-are-battering-area/

I miss California, but not the fire aspect.

Merry

Oct. 21, 2007, 06:02 PM

I just came here to check, as I heard about the Malibu fires. We've been having 90 mph gusts since about 1:00 am but no fires near us yet.

My friend Andrea just called. She judged a show in Santa Barbara and is stuck trying to get home on the 101 freeway but it's shut at Kanan.

It's all very sad. Jingles for all the folks in the fire areas!

Bluey

Oct. 21, 2007, 06:14 PM

I don't think that just clearing the underbrush will stop those fires, you would have to clear cut the whole sides and that will cause mudslides.

I used to know a fellow thru our training border collies that had a contract to graze his goats thru those hills to keep the brush down.
That is how he trained his trialing dogs.

Here we had last year an area larger than some smaller states burn down, several hundred thousands of acres.

Nothing can stop fires when the wind blows really hard and all other conditions are right for it, like plenty of fuel for the fire in dry grass and other.

I hope all are staying safe, since they know it is coming their way.:(

J Swan

Oct. 21, 2007, 06:17 PM

catknsn

Oct. 21, 2007, 06:21 PM

I used to live in Latigo Canyon with horses at home (not mine, the property owners) and I have a friend with horses at the top of Winding Way...hope they got out safely! I loved living in Malibu but the fire danger is what scared me back to living in the city. It is the most beautiful place on earth with the best weather imaginable, but after they closed Kanan one day while I was at work and I had to go rushing home to make sure I was home if they called for evacuation so that my cats didn't get stuck there...I decided it was just too risky. I hope everyone was able to get their families and animals out safely.

I know a lot of horses who live in Topanga Canyon...I will have to go read the news now and hope it's not heading that way. :( Topanga would be a nightmare to evacuate, tons of horses there and one 2-lane road out.

Plumcreek

Oct. 21, 2007, 06:39 PM

Gee, the goat idea has a ring to it. I know of people here who make a living leasing goat herds for goverrnment owned tracts of land. They would be a natural for the small underbrush, perhaps not the manzanita (some deep memory just clicked that manzanita is fire resistant?).

Plumcreek

Oct. 21, 2007, 06:44 PM

Perhaps a bad time to ask this question - but in an area such as that - where fire and mudslides are part of normal life - do animal/livestock owners have good organizations to help them, evacuation plans and sites, that sort of thing?

In fires I have seen, volunteers show up with empty horse trailers. Nearest fairgrounds is usual evac site. From the Santa Barbara fire many years ago, a good point was made that whether your horse gets evacuated or not may depend on if horsie would load quickly and easily, in any trailer, by anyone, in a time of great excitement and crisis.

Little Indian

Oct. 21, 2007, 06:53 PM

DTD's home is still standing, but the fire is surrounding it on almost all sides in the mountains.

We are being incased by smoke in my neighborhood from the Chatsworth and Agua Dulce and Castaic fires. We have been told to keep on checking in with fire watch. Hopfully all is good here because the trainers are at a horse show.

Wanderluster

Oct. 21, 2007, 07:54 PM

I hope everyone in danger is able to evacuate - with their animals.

Perhaps a bad time to ask this question - but in an area such as that - where fire and mudslides are part of normal life - do animal/livestock owners have good organizations to help them, evacuation plans and sites, that sort of thing?

J Swan I have been through two fires that were threatening and I am amazed to find how resourceful horse people are here. It is a grapevine of concerned , ready and willing volunteers. The phone starts ringing if the fire is anywhere close with generous offers of help. Conversely if we can help we begin calling anyone affected. I have a client in Malibu that has no power and as of this morning she is OK. Another in Topanga but she left for Bataan this morning :( . Humans and structures are the priority for firefighters so horse evacuation is more of a grassroots effort.

lonewolf

Oct. 21, 2007, 08:03 PM

I board at a big public stable in So Cal, and the facility has a very good evacuation plan. Basically, there is a call list there so that all trainers and people in charge get informed. Everyone who owns a horse trailer there is on the call list, and they have all agreed to be emergency shippers if the need arises.

Here's hoping that all animals and people in harm's way get out safely.

And yes, California is made to burn. It has been the driest year on record, which doesn't help.

Some places do controlled burns, but in some areas it just isn't safe.

danosaur

Oct. 21, 2007, 08:20 PM

jingles jingles jingles. I can't imagine something like that happening. Everyone in the area will be in our thoughts and prayers.

Sundancer

Oct. 21, 2007, 09:00 PM

Sometimes you can clear the brush, but the wind whips the embers and if they fall on your roof (and it isn't fireproof)...there goes your home. The Santa Ana winds swoop down from the high desert and are funneled through the mountains. And, also, we are in a severe drought.

I remember the bad fire up by Pioneertown a couple of years ago. Some folks barely escaped with their horses, as it happened during work hours. Neighbors courageously helped families who couldn't save their livestock and removed horses from corrals as best they could. Unfortunately, one horse did get burned, on his nose.

You have to realize that the winds that fan these fires can be 60, 70, 80, even 100 miles perhour. NOTHING can stop them. I've seen "my mountains", the San Gabriels, on fire several times during my lifetime. It is AWFUL. I pray for these people tonight, and their animals.

mcm7780

Oct. 21, 2007, 09:10 PM

Yikes! Hope everyone is okay...

My mom called today and told me about the fire in Santa Ynez (where she is). They had issued voluntary evacuation notices that morning to some areas. The last fire there was just contained about 6 weeks ago after burning since July 4th. :eek:

Amwrider

Oct. 21, 2007, 09:14 PM

Jingling in FL for DTD and others in harm's way.

Tiempo

Oct. 21, 2007, 09:18 PM

Oh gosh...this is just awful.

huge jingles to all in harms way.

Release First

Oct. 21, 2007, 09:25 PM

One of the news reports showed a man chasing his herd of loose horses up into the hills away from the fire. I hope he finds them and they are OK.

lunchbox

Oct. 21, 2007, 09:33 PM

There is also a fire in Canyon Country, in Agua Dulce. (also So Cal)

We have a place about 1/2 hour south of there and have already received a phone call from our local evac person who has asked if we have room for horses if necessary. (we do).

So sad, and so frightening.

Plumcreek

Oct. 21, 2007, 09:57 PM

[QUOTE=mcm7780;2752154}

My mom called today and told me about the fire in Santa Ynez (where she is). They had issued voluntary evacuation notices that morning to some areas. The last fire there was just contained about 6 weeks ago after burning since July 4th. :eek:[/QUOTE]

Did she say where the fire is in Santa Ynez?

Leisa

Oct. 21, 2007, 10:17 PM

I know a lot of horses who live in Topanga Canyon...I will have to go read the news now and hope it's not heading that way. :( Topanga would be a nightmare to evacuate, tons of horses there and one 2-lane road out.

Topanga canyon has been ordered to evacuate their horses and large animals.

http://cbs2.com/topstories/local_story_294195436.html

What a nightmare going on there. Jingles and prayers for everyone's safety!

silver2

Oct. 21, 2007, 10:38 PM

With all the wildfires in CA and other western states, why don't the homeowners clear out the underbrush themselves, or the state?
This a a HUGE area and very rugged. Plus all the vegetation is "brush". It's a fire-adapted ecosystem and it will burn sooner or later no matter what people do so most people only clear the mandated area around their houses, if that. If you saw the area post-fire you'd actually be amzed how little damage there is, but I imagine that will change as people build in stupider and stupider places. Box canyons? yeah that's dumb.

I remember the 1993 fires very well- it seems like it burns to the ocean every 10-15 years at the most, I think beore that it was 87??

Little Indian

Oct. 21, 2007, 11:02 PM

I too saw the incredible image on channel 9 news of the horses who were let free in the mountains. In 2005, a woman in my community had to do the same thing to two of her horses. She had a 3 horse trailer and 5 horses. She had to let two go hoping that they would get to safety as the fire was burning her property. I have already wrapped all of mine as a precaution incase a fire starts up here and we have to leave in the middle of the night. We too are in one of those canyons like Box Canyon, Bell Canyon (we are the next canyon over from Box). We only have one way in and one way out. We evacuated in 2003 and in 2005. Equally as scary each and every time.

Wanderluster

Oct. 21, 2007, 11:27 PM

Yes we do live in an area that is at high risk for an array of disasters. However some of this danger is exacerbated by our coastal commission that disallows clearing around designated wildlife open space.

This is the same coastal commission that would today disallow the many stables in the Malibu area to be built. They have a very hard line attitude about the impact that horses have on the environment and point a finger towards horses as being a reason that the ocean has high levels of pollutants and alarming levels of bacteria after storms.

FYI horse manure is far more eco friendly than human waste and many homes in the Malibu area and specifically the Malibu Colony are still on a septic system rather than a sewer system. When we experience huge volumes of rain these toxins are released and end up going directly into the Pacific.

A lot of these problems are political and not at all based on scientific research. Coastal commission is a watchdog that has roots in some very well meaning conservationists but also impedes the ability for homeowners to remove scrub brush and deadwood. They also like to spear front efforts to stop all open space land use to recreational use and seem to have an agenda against horses, hikers and bicyclist that may spoil the natural environment.

It is a sad fact that fires are a natural disaster but even more so when those that would clear areas to make themselves safer have their hands tied . Sorry for the rant... it just happens to be one of the reasons I chose to buy horse property outside the jurisdiction of coastal.

PS LI if you are in need don't hesitate calling me. I have room for yours and a couple more.

lunchbox

Oct. 21, 2007, 11:30 PM

Little Indian

Oct. 21, 2007, 11:36 PM

They did. She let them go with halters and lead ropes and her phone number on their halters. A reporter from one of the local TV stations was able to grab them both when they made their way down to the bottom of the canyon. From there they were able to get a ride to the local community college (it has an equestrian center attached). Evacuating is very scary. In 2005, my then 4 month old colt had his very first trailer loading experience thanks to the Topanga fire ;)

deserthunter

Oct. 21, 2007, 11:43 PM

Santa Ana's are weird. Here in the desert it has dropped 30 degrees in one day. When you (coastal) have the Santa Ana's it sucks all the heat from the desert out and it turns immediately cold.

I hope everyone is okay, it is supposed to get windy tonight.

Doesn't Richard Spooner live is Agua Dulce?

lunchbox

Oct. 21, 2007, 11:45 PM

Little Indian: ahhh...thanks :) Love a good ending.

Jingles to everyone tonight. I'm watching the tv constantly - our ranch is safe right now but you know how things can change so quickly.

Little Indian

Oct. 22, 2007, 12:03 AM

Wanderluster

Oct. 22, 2007, 12:09 AM

Yeah Richard's place is in Agua Dulce and I have been wondering if they are OK. I haven't a clue if they are in any immediate danger. Maybe someone else?

lunchbox

Oct. 22, 2007, 12:11 AM

I have just heard that people are walking (running? I'd be running) their horses out of Topanga canyon and they are meeting up with trailers at the 7-11 on the corner of Topanga Canyon Blvd and Ventura Blvd. The fire department will not let trailers into Topanga Canyon.

Yep, I saw that too.

And that Pierce College will take all horses - but no stallions!!!! ????

I know that that some stallions are tough but jeez.......

Little Indian

Oct. 22, 2007, 12:20 AM

I know when we evacuated to Hanson Dam Equestrian Center in 05 they took stallions as my trainer has one and he was able to come with us. Can I say how impressed I was with him? We had to pack 8 horses in a 6 horse trailer and he was in the front of the trailer and my mare and colt were in the back and he never made a peep. I believe Sandstone took stallions in in 2003 as did El Campeon. A lot of the bigger barns will take stallions in. If you've ever been to Pierce, you know that it really isn't set up for this type of thing. They have a limited number of stalls, an indoor arena and some turnouts. In 2005 there were horses tied to any open space available and it was a terrible situation for all.

RiddleMeThis

Oct. 22, 2007, 12:20 AM

They may not be setup to take in a stallion. I kow that my boarding barn wont take a stallion. Too many mares and not enough space for the stallions.

lunchbox

Oct. 22, 2007, 12:27 AM

Little Indian

Oct. 22, 2007, 12:33 AM

according to this webpage, the area I live in is in extreme fire danger.
http://wildfirealert.sdsu.edu/raws.php?id=CAPC1

CA ASB

Oct. 22, 2007, 03:23 AM

We've just been out evacuating up in Santiago Canyon (the OC fire). That fire was burning at the rate of about 10 acres per MINUTE. It's still over the hill from me, but my rig is parked in the driveway just in case we need to evac the house over the next few days. Fortunately, my horses are probably pretty safe. It would have to burn through a whole lot of homes to get to them.

Trakehner

Oct. 22, 2007, 07:13 AM

J Swan

Oct. 22, 2007, 07:15 AM

I'm watching the news right now. There is a person with a pickup truck - their dogs are tied in the bed- and their horse is tied to the truck bed - calmly walking behind the truck.

I will be thinking of all of you and hoping those winds die down.

Where I live our problems usually consist of flooding. Unfortunately - if it floods so badly lives are in danger - the roads are closed. There's only one road that can get anyone to safety - and it can be under 5 feet of water in some places. If a hurricane comes up the Chesapeake - (and they do), we'd need to build an Ark.

I'll take this opportunity for Virginia horse owners to consider volunteering to house evacuated equines in the event of a disaster. Here is the contact info:

http://www.virginiahorsecouncil.org/Hurricaneinfo.html

deserthunter

Oct. 22, 2007, 09:31 AM

Entire town of Ramona has been evacuated.

CA ASB

Oct. 22, 2007, 09:40 AM

ThrghbrdJmpr

Oct. 22, 2007, 09:53 AM

Just wanted to send my well wishes to those are you in danger. I hope everyone is safe and their ponies are all in good hands!

Candle

Oct. 22, 2007, 10:09 AM

Is there really a part of the country that doesn't experience yearly natural disasters of some kind? Anyway, huge jingles going out that everyone who needs it finds a ride, that everyone's horse loads perfectly, and that humans and horses and other pets make it out just fine.

LD1129

Oct. 22, 2007, 10:12 AM

Jingles from PA!!! Hope all is safe and well!

CA ASB

Oct. 22, 2007, 10:24 AM

Updated to add, I can now see flames on the ridgeline above us as well as the backhoes that are working diligently on the fireroad to keep it from our community.

Little Indian

Oct. 22, 2007, 10:58 AM

There is one house on DTD's street that has just gone up in flames. Please think good thoughts that it was not her family's home.

JEN22

Oct. 22, 2007, 11:04 AM

Hey all,
Just want to send best wishes for you all and prayers that the winds die down and the brave firefighters are able to get this monster fire under control before more lives are lost.
My cousin is a sheriffs deputy in Ventura county and her husband is also. They are saying the rescue crews are working triple time and trying their best to help stop this thing and get folks and animals evacuated as quickly as possible!
Our prayers are with all of you who are effected by this!
Keep updating as much as you can, we're worried about you all!
Stay safe!!

titan

Oct. 22, 2007, 11:07 AM

Jingling from MI!

Oct. 22, 2007, 11:10 AM

Jingling like crazy here in Massachusetts! I can't even imagine how scary that must be.

CA ASB

Oct. 22, 2007, 11:24 AM

Last night, we were trying to figure out how the one in Orange County got from point A to point B ... turns out someone started it in three separate areas and then it merged. No wonder it was burning at 10 acres per minute.

The firemen are now camped out in my cul-de-sac and I can hear the chainsaws going up the hill (for you So. Cal. folks, we're right at the edge of Whiting Ranch Wilderness Park). Things don't look good for Limestone Canyon - while the TV hasn't mentioned it, the burn territory looks like it went through the whole thing (this is a beautiful canyon with red rocks right in the middle of the OC).

Tamlain

Oct. 22, 2007, 11:37 AM

Entire town of Ramona has been evacuated.

Yeah - friends of mine showed up last night with trailers in tow and I've turned into a B&B for equines, canines, felines and humans.

The winds up here from the Santa Ana's are insane and I've got most of the mares doubled up in stalls to protect as many as possible. Stallions all in their stalls, and had to even put a couple mares in the same barn with them (separate stalls!).

Closed the breezeway up for a couple donkeys.....

And still have horses in pastures using trees for protection because the winds have torn down the shelters.

I'm just hoping the fence holds as we lost the fence across the front of the property last night......and I'm praying we don't end up with a fire.

Good luck to everyone!

Little Indian

Oct. 22, 2007, 11:47 AM

Does anybody know if Camelot is in any danger? They are located in Newhall

Trakehner

Oct. 22, 2007, 11:48 AM

Trakehner -

We DO expect these things, but you never like them just the same. And because we expect them, we have emergency plans - which is why I was up most of the night hauling horses out.

It's kind of like saying when you have horses, kids, X, you should expect problems. If you're alive, you're going to face difficulties. At least we're prepared.

Sheesh, thanks for your concern. Must be nice to never have a problem where a total stranger needs to help you out.

And a lot of the problems are the bloody politicians and tree-huggers. Can't create a safety zone because some idiot rodent might be unhappy. Might be a Pansy's Elbow Ragwort that's rare nowadays, so no digging or draining. Go after the idiots in the county and state government who prevent people protecting their homes & farms or the eco-psycos who prefer bambi to you.

If you have a horse that rears and dumps you with regularity...you get rid of the horse. If you have an asthmatic kid, you don't smoke and are prepared for attacks but try and minimize the triggers. There are "difficulties" you face because you can't avoid or really plan for them...you're a victim when these happen. There's also the things you do when you know they've happened before and you keep doing what didn't work in the past...these are called volunteers (think of people who stay with abusive SOs or people who rebuild in a flood plain or fire zone).

But...if your home has burned down 3 times, don't rebuild on the ashes and pretend it's not going to happen in a year or two.

Sarabeth

Oct. 22, 2007, 11:53 AM

Just FYI: Imperial EQ Center in Southgate and Whittier Narrows EQ center in Whittier/Pico Rivera will both take stallions, and both have space available immediately. Not exactly the Taj Mahal, but hey, in a pinch...

OnCue

Oct. 22, 2007, 12:10 PM

blahblahblah ......

Oh do shut up.

ESG

Oct. 22, 2007, 12:25 PM

And a lot of the problems are the bloody politicians and tree-huggers. Can't create a safety zone because some idiot rodent might be unhappy. Might be a Pansy's Elbow Ragwort that's rare nowadays, so no digging or draining. Go after the idiots in the county and state government who prevent people protecting their homes & farms or the eco-psycos who prefer bambi to you.

If you have a horse that rears and dumps you with regularity...you get rid of the horse. If you have an asthmatic kid, you don't smoke and are prepared for attacks but try and minimize the triggers. There are "difficulties" you face because you can't avoid or really plan for them...you're a victim when these happen. There's also the things you do when you know they've happened before and you keep doing what didn't work in the past...these are called volunteers (think of people who stay with abusive SOs or people who rebuild in a flood plain or fire zone).

But...if your home has burned down 3 times, don't rebuild on the ashes and pretend it's not going to happen in a year or two.

While you do make some valid points, they are lost in your customary holier-than-thou, I-never-make-a-mistake rhetoric that many of us find offensive. I think the folks who live in these areas know the risk. It would be nice if you would bother to actually read the responses of folks like CA ASB, who do have plans and are prepared to implement them. You'd see that not everyone is unprepared or oblivious to the potential danger in which they live. If one used your logic, no one would ever live in any coastal region because of hurricane threat, or in a mountainous one because of the risk of blizzards and winter-related threats, or in a desert where wildfires can occur. Especially when set by humans, as these were. Nice of you to be so sympathetic to folks who are victims of an arsonist.

I feel sorry for you. :no:

AppJumpr08

Oct. 22, 2007, 12:31 PM

Lots of jingles!!!

I was just thinking this morning as I was cleaning stalls how scary being in that situation must be...

Trakehner, while I don't entirely disagree with a few of your general points, I can't imagine thinking that it is OK to express your opinion in such a manner to and about people who are dealing with such a scary crisis... This is definately a case of "if it isn't nice, keep it to yourself".

May the winds die down, and rain move in... SOON!!!

silver2

Oct. 22, 2007, 12:35 PM

And a lot of the problems are the bloody politicians and tree-huggers. Can't create a safety zone because some idiot rodent might be unhappy.
Pretty hard to create a safety zone with 100mile per hour winds and humidity in the single digits.

Cheerful1

Oct. 22, 2007, 12:37 PM

My child's school was cancelled for the day due to the fire. We're in the Temecula area. Apparently there's a fire in Rancho Bernardo also. Fires seem to be popping up everywhere.

I too saw the horses in Agua Dulce going up the hill away from the fire. The reporter said they had all been in an arena together and that the ranch owners were evacuating. Someone saw that the fast approaching fire might take the ranch and let the horses out of the arena. They all took off up the hill away from the fire. It looked like about 20 horses (?) some of them were really beautiful. There was a huge white horse that looked like it might be either a warmblood or an Andalusion, galloping up the hill.

I certainly hope they are all safe now. Hoping everyone gets out safely.

honeydoozy

Oct. 22, 2007, 12:46 PM

I'm sitting here watching the news, and they are showing several horses in a huge dirt pasture in Malibu, with fire just about on all sides...

Homeowners at another fire are reporting that their horses are stuck in trailers at their property, and they can't get up there to get them out...

Really tragic, and as a horseperson, I feel so helpless to just sit here and watch this play out. :no:

I'm wondering how horse-savvy the firepeople are in So. Cal.... and if they're not... WHY not? It seems so necessary, to me.

OnCue

Oct. 22, 2007, 12:49 PM

The firefighters are overwhelmed doing their job, which is fighting fires. Animal Control does have a Equine Response Team of volunteers that work together with the fire departments on trying to get out as many as possible. Let's face it, even people in Animal Control can spend the majority of their career without dealing with horses.

Pickapace

Oct. 22, 2007, 12:52 PM

Does anyone know how Newmarket is? Is the Del Mar horse show canceled? My sister says that area is being evacuated. Good luck all!!!

HorseTrouble

Oct. 22, 2007, 01:02 PM

I'm in Fullerton & can leave work at any time to hitch up my 2 horse WB straight load if anyone needs help evacuating. Please PM me if needed.

Little Indian

Oct. 22, 2007, 01:08 PM

I have heard that San Diego area horses are evacuating to Show Park. I have no idea if the Del Mar show was cancelled...maybe call the show office?

On a side note, on friday the barn where my 2 year old and my mare are boarded had their own fire on friday. Their barn and hay supply all burned. Everybody was fine, but it is a tragedy, so jingles would be appreciated for them also.

Cashela

Oct. 22, 2007, 01:14 PM

I'm sitting here watching the news, and they are showing several horses in a huge dirt pasture in Malibu, with fire just about on all sides...

Homeowners at another fire are reporting that their horses are stuck in trailers at their property, and they can't get up there to get them out...

.

This is just breaking my heart :no: :cry:

My thoughts go out to those in CA.

gwenrowdy

Oct. 22, 2007, 01:15 PM

Prayers and concern from Maine. My brother lives in San Diego-I'm sure his next phone call home will be an interesting one.

MidlifeCrisis

Oct. 22, 2007, 01:21 PM

I have heard that San Diego area horses are evacuating to Show Park. I have no idea if the Del Mar show was cancelled...maybe call the show office?

They're trying to get the Del Mar fairgrounds open as an emergency evacuation point. Qualcomm stadium (where the Chargers play) is already open and set up to receive up to 100,000 people. The fire has crossed I-15 at Carmel Valley Road and they're trying to keep it from spreading into Rancho Santa Fe.

I grew up in San Diego and my heart breaks every time these fires come. We're having the same winds up here in the Bay Area but no fires yet.

Jingles for all of you down there.

MidlifeCrisis

Oct. 22, 2007, 01:31 PM

Rancho Santa Fe is now under mandatory evacuation orders.

monstrpony

Oct. 22, 2007, 01:31 PM

Jingles for everyone in the fire areas. Such a horrible rist associated with living in such a lovely area. Hope everyone gets through it as well as possible.

showmom858

Oct. 22, 2007, 01:37 PM

Our horses in Carmel Valley (just North of the 56) have been evacuated to the Del Mar Fairgrounds. All of our friends in Carmel Valley are evacuating (North of 56, west if 15 and south of Del Dios Highway).

Our thoughts are with everyone her in Southern California. The live pictures of Rancho Bernardo and the houses burning there are horrible.

CA ASB

Oct. 22, 2007, 01:37 PM

Trakehner,

Excuuuse the bloody hell out of me as I have more to deal with than your banalities right now ... BUT ... my home has never burned down once, much less 4 times. Today will be the 2nd time in 15 years that I have had to be evacuated (it's coming down the street - my PC will be last to leave the house), and I pray my home is still here.

BUT - there are 100 mph winds outside right now. Sparks that jump over 2 miles and start new fires well away from any fire area.

And you can sanctimoniously spout off back in VA? I just HOPE you never experience a drought ...

And you know what those tree huggers have done for us? Provided us with HORSE TRAILS to ride on ... developers would shove horses entirely out of the area ...

So, who pee'd on your cornflakes this morning?

tweeter

Oct. 22, 2007, 01:42 PM

Our thoughts and prayers are with all of you. For those who must leave their homes, I hope when you return you'll find things just as you left them. Take care of yourselves and your horses and please check in when you can.

It's hard to be so far away and not able to help.

deserthunter

Oct. 22, 2007, 01:44 PM

Trakehner

It was just announced that the fires in Orange County were started in 3 different places and are now determined it is ARSON.

Kinda sad that people stoop so low, isn't it?

Little Indian

Oct. 22, 2007, 01:46 PM

I wanted to share pictures from my viewpoint. I took them yesterday. We are basically surrounded on all sides by all of the different fires and are in the belly of everything. We have Auga Dulce and Canyon Country on one side, Camerillo on the other, Malibu up and to the side and the now controlled (put out?) Chatsworth fire. If it gets to Newhall, we are pretty much a straight shot from Camelot. That is how it got to us in 2005

http://sbcc.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2028459&l=c8e50&id=201301603

Gunnar

Oct. 22, 2007, 01:52 PM

I am jingling for all involved. The pictures I saw on the news were so sad, with several horses and llamas surrounded by flames. Hope everyone is getting out and that the poor animals make it.

I live in the Oakland hills where the big fire burnt up 75% of my street. We evacuated all of our pets within hours of the start and evacuated ourselves when the police would not let us stay any longer! It is something I will never forget and it is a hard thing to deal with, even though there were no horses in the area. All forms of life are precious!

LI, keep us posted on anything you hear!:sadsmile:

Leisa

Oct. 22, 2007, 02:02 PM

http://www.myfoxla.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=4703528&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1

genevieveg17

Oct. 22, 2007, 02:03 PM

Thank you for posting the updates and photos. It is unfortunate that a few posters have chosen to stoop so low during this crisis. It must be very nice for them to live in an area where there are no natural disasters. The rest of us must press on and do the best we can.
I will be jingling like crazy for all of those in So Cal in the fires path. Please be careful and stay safe.

two sticks

Oct. 22, 2007, 02:03 PM

Our friends just found out this morning that they lost their home in Velasquez Canyon. Both parents and children were out of town in separate places, luckily keeping them safe, but they were unable to save anything from their home, which burned completely to the ground. :cry: Please send jingles their way.

Plumcreek

Oct. 22, 2007, 02:17 PM

People in other parts of the country may not realize that, in So Cal, any flat land is so $$$ valuable for farm crops (Camarillo, Carpenteria) or development, that horse sized acreage (and by that I mean 1 acre or more) has been pushed out into the dry hills.

paceracer

Oct. 22, 2007, 02:19 PM

PLEASE don't think twice I have room....and Here in Riverside KNOCK on WOOD we are OK... can see smoke everywhere but for a change Nothing close to me.
I have Paddocks and my 4 horse barn is empty,have paddocks and even the arena.
PLEASE if ya need a place for YOU or your animals do not hesitate to contact me.
I'm Off the 91 in the hills here in Riverside.
I'm checking boards as I can but My board is
http://b4.boards2go.com/boards/board.cgi?user=tweeety3 and thats a good place to post if ya need me.
I hate to post My Phone # on boards!
allthough IF ya pull up my streaming cams My #'s are on there.
PLEASE stay Safe and Contact me if ya need a place for your KIDZS or yourself!!!!!!

SGray

Oct. 22, 2007, 02:46 PM

Jingles from TX

appychik

Oct. 22, 2007, 02:57 PM

Jingles from MN. I can't even to begin to imagine what you are all going through. My BF's sister flew home yesterday (Sunday) back to Malibu... at that time, no one was aware of the fires (least that I know of since I was at their parent's house last night). I hope she got back to college safely (she attends Pepperdine). I'm jingling hard for all you with horses. I can't even imagine trying to evacuate....

TripleRipple

Oct. 22, 2007, 02:57 PM

Trakehner

It was just announced that the fires in Orange County were started in 3 different places and are now determined it is ARSON.

Kinda sad that people stoop so low, isn't it?

It is absolutely disgusting. These particular fire disasters are about crime, not location. You cannot escape arsonists by moving.

I can agree that there is validity to the point of not rebuilding in disaster areas - in an appropriate thread or venue, I could point out even more examples where I completely agree with this. This thread isn't that venue.

Takes some seriously low self esteem or a real bad day to drive a fellow horse board poster to decide that a thread devoted to a life and death disaster in progress is the proper venue to vent their spleen about some off topic opinion they possess. And if you can use any part of your brain, you can run this thing around in it enough to see that such commentary is off topic, and not much more than a cruel jab to people still bleeding. What is the point? Did it make you feel good to say that? You sure managed to make some terrified and sad people feel worse. Congrats.

I wish everyone the best of luck in out running this thing - you have my positive thoughts.

Little Indian

Oct. 22, 2007, 03:00 PM

Blueshadow

Oct. 22, 2007, 03:01 PM

MidlifeCrisis

Oct. 22, 2007, 03:09 PM

According to signonsandiego.com, all stalls at the Del Mar racetrack are full. Horses are being put on the fairgrounds where the carnival rides are, and they are considering putting two horses per stall.

Jingles to everyone. Get out early. And may you stay safe.

Xctrygirl

Oct. 22, 2007, 03:11 PM

OK need info please.

My best friend in Cali was suppossed to come east on a red eye tonight. (Business trip and visit) She is obviously tied up making sure her horses are safe.

When we spoke this am she said Del Mar was so far safe, and that horses were shipping in to both the track and the polo fields. (?) Sorry been a few years since I lived in Cali.

Can anyone give me any resource that shows which areas are ok and where the fire is currently>??

Thanks much,

~Emily

I'm EBO

Oct. 22, 2007, 03:13 PM

I have room for horses, but am on the wrong side of The Grapevine, so you'd want to take a different route north. PM me here if you want my phone number. I'm about 2.5 hours north of greater LA.

Timex

Oct. 22, 2007, 03:14 PM

big jingles to all. i was watching CNN at lunch, doesn't look like the fire will be brought under control at any point too soon. :(

ReeseTheBeast

Oct. 22, 2007, 03:14 PM

My prayers are with you and for you... if there was anything else I could do, I most certainly would.

Absolutely heartbreaking. :no:

MidlifeCrisis

Oct. 22, 2007, 03:16 PM

Best info I have found is at www.signonsandiego.com

Site is slow due to heavy traffic. They also have another site for San Diego residents seeking fire info. www.211SanDiego.org I haven't gone to it since I don't want to add to the heavy webtraffic.

gieriscm

Oct. 22, 2007, 03:27 PM

Map of So Cal Fires (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&om=1&msa=0&msid=117631292961056724014.00043d0e9ca465cefeeed&ll=35.960223,-117.443848&spn=4.827737,8.876953&source=embed)

ETA: not only were some of these fires deliberately set, there have been reports of looting in the evacuated areas. Some people are just scum.

hey101

Oct. 22, 2007, 03:37 PM

My husband's office on the edge of Irvine/ Lake Forest was just evacuated from the arson fires last night. I'm starting to freak out... I can't decide if I'm being way Paranoid-new-to-Cali-and-this-happens-every-year-so-chill-out, or if I should seriously start thinking about hooking up our trailer so we can pack the animals out if we need to! We are in Dana POint and our horses are in San Juan Capistrano, so far we aren't in any direct fire path, but... Irvine is not that far away and those winds are blowing REALLY hard- and I read that fires can jump up to TWO MILES away on those winds! :eek::no:

lunchbox

Oct. 22, 2007, 03:37 PM

Map of So Cal Fires (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&om=1&msa=0&msid=117631292961056724014.00043d0e9ca465cefeeed&ll=35.960223,-117.443848&spn=4.827737,8.876953&source=embed)

Great link, thanks.

Our ranch is still safe (it's in Sand Canyon, in Santa Clarita), but I am glued to the news.

Things change rapidly.

Thanks for all the (um mostly!) positive thoughts, jingles, and info.

Glad your horses are OK, Little Indian. So sorry about the barn.

lonewolf

Oct. 22, 2007, 03:44 PM

I'm thinking about LI and DD and all other posters whose homes are directly threatened. I feel as if I know you all and think of you as friends, and worry about you being in danger.

I am in San Juan Capistrano, and am not sure if we are going to be safe or not. I read on a website that they had planned on evacuating horses to the Oaks (5 minutes from my home), but scrapped that idea since it wasn't necessarily safe.

hey101

Oct. 22, 2007, 03:48 PM

lonewolf, can you please keep us updated on the San Juan Cap situation? What website did you find that out about evacuating to Oaks?

lonewolf

Oct. 22, 2007, 03:53 PM

I got the news at http://fireblog.signonsandiego.com/

If you scroll down the page, you get the following story regarding horses:

Race track's 1,800 horse stalls are full
11:57 a.m.

The Del Mar Racetrack's 1,800 horse stalls are full and it's unclear where any more horses will be held.

Del Mar started taking horses in last night, but there had already been animals there due to a jumping competition that had run from Wednesday to Sunday.

As of 9:45 this morning, there were only 100 stalls left and by 11 a.m., people were told they were full.

Officials were bringing horses to the Scream Zone area temporarily and were also considering double-stalling the horses, housing two horses per stall.

Earlier today, horse owners were told they could bring their horses to The Oaks horse facility in Orange County, but that option was called off, reportedly due to winds and possible fire threat in that area.

In additions to horses at Del Mar, the track facility is also housing dogs, litters of puppies and goats.

Feed, hay and water was being provided.

People were being housed separately, being sent over to the fair facilities.

blue&blond

Oct. 22, 2007, 03:57 PM

Florida has hurricanes, Buffalo has a ton of snow and California burns every year...and the surprise is?

If you build in a flood plain or where there are fires every year...you should expect problems.

Trakehner, have you ever been to Southern California? You really shouldn't speak about something you don't have a clue about. Have you seen the maps of the MULTIPLE areas on fire? Take a look before you speak.

Not only that, your post was very un-caring to say the least.

Guin

Oct. 22, 2007, 03:59 PM

The pictures are just terrifying. If you need emergency horse help, go to the San Diego Craig's List, where people are posting all sorts of offers of shelter, trailering, etc.

http://sandiego.craigslist.org/ccc/

Candle

Oct. 22, 2007, 04:03 PM

LI, I facebook friended you. I'm entirely across the country, but if there's anything I can do for anyone, please let me know. jingles continue...

FatPalomino

Oct. 22, 2007, 04:26 PM

Are Santa Anita or Hollywood Park available for horses to be evacuated to?

I'll be flying into Santa Ana in 2 weeks. Gosh. I wish I could do something now to help.

Lambie Boat

Oct. 22, 2007, 04:28 PM

when I lived in LA during 93 fires, my horse at the end of Winding Way (at Kate's) was evacuated to the Malibu Tennis & Riding Club.

I boarded in Topanga and had to evacuate to Camarillo during another fire. The barn where Mette trains from was surrounded by fire, but was used as an outpost for firefighters so was spared.

I boarded at Middle Ranch in Lakeview Terrace and was luckily away at a clinic during another fire, when a barn full of horses had phone numbers spray painted onto their bodies and turned out together, where they kicked each other to bits (these are barn stall horses for the most part in CA.)

A friend who has her horses in Chesebro evacuated to Ventura County Fairgrounds.

Another friend had her house burnt down. She said the fire came up so fast she only had time to grab her cats and run.

It's imperative that horses will load into a trailer NO MATTER WHAT because even then, they are frightened/terrified by the smell, smoke and vision of fire. My horse did not load the first time. It was horrible. They had to leave her behind. Thankfully, a bigger rig came soon thereafter and we had to chase her in, using not so classical methods.....

Even CNN's video and personal pictures can not show the panic, helplessness and sheer terror that fires in Southern CA gives. Also, they close lots of the freeway access so you can't get around easily. Horsepeople are most excellent to each other, everyone out with their trailers, opening their vacant stalls to strangers.

I send jingles and vigorous raindances from Oregon!! Hope the winds stop very soon.

Chief2

Oct. 22, 2007, 04:35 PM

Jingles to you all from us.

Blueshadow

Oct. 22, 2007, 04:52 PM

Are Santa Anita or Hollywood Park available for horses to be evacuated to?

I'll be flying into Santa Ana in 2 weeks. Gosh. I wish I could do something now to help.

They are probably full. There's a meet currently at Santa Anita and one starting soon at Hollywood Park. Usually, there are few/no stalls. Del Mar is empty and available because there is not racing there all year round. Maybe Pomona? Barretts sale is next Monday, horses arrive Saturday but right now the sales barns are empty - room for hundreds and hundreds

Little Indian

Oct. 22, 2007, 04:58 PM

what about Los Alamitos? would there be open stalls there?

Catersun

Oct. 22, 2007, 05:00 PM

*jingles* from the hurricane zone.

Coreene

Oct. 22, 2007, 05:02 PM

One coworker has already gone home to scoop up stuff at his house; the evacuation in his neighborhood is currently voluntary, but better safe than sorry. Here is the view south from John Wayne Airport this morning.

Coreene

Oct. 22, 2007, 05:04 PM

what about Los Alamitos? would there be open stalls there?Haven't heard yet re Los Al taking horses. Last I heard, they were still sending them to the Fairgrounds, but that was early this a.m. and I have no idea what the capacity was for additional horses.

jilltx

Oct. 22, 2007, 05:09 PM

sending many ***JINGLES*** and prayers from Texas to SoCal. How absolutely terrifying. I'd take a hurricane anyday to the fires you all endure.

I have family in Encinitas, which I know is still a good way away. Can't get through to them. *update just got an e-mail...they're preparing to evacuate. he's lived in the same area for over 20 years and this is the first time I've heard him talk about leaving. He said the fires are just too close.*

Coreene

Oct. 22, 2007, 05:12 PM

My electricity just went out and I am on the backup battery. I'm outta here!

hey101

Oct. 22, 2007, 05:16 PM

My electricity just went out and I am on the backup battery. I'm outta here!

Mine too in Santa Ana!!

jilltx

Oct. 22, 2007, 05:17 PM

Oh god Coreene. Be safe hon. Thinking of you and everyone else.

appychik

Oct. 22, 2007, 05:24 PM

appychick-- Pepperdine's classes have been cancelled I believe until further notice and the dorms have been evacuated. From what I heard, students were camping out in the cafeteria and another evacuation spot set up for the students.

Thanks. I'm definitely contacting my BF after work to see if he knows anything from his sister... just horrible! I feel so bad for everyone there.

HorseTrouble

Oct. 22, 2007, 05:26 PM

Just got off the phone with the Fire Line- the entire town of Fallbrook is under Mandatory Evacuation. I just told my grandma to get out of there.

If any one needs help evacuating horses please let me know!!

MissFit

Oct. 22, 2007, 05:28 PM

I'll post this in both threads but KPBSNEWS has a twitter account to keep everyone updated. It's more reliable than either website because at least it doesn't keep going offline because of server issues.
As of now, Scripps Ranch is under mandatory evacuation.

silver2

Oct. 22, 2007, 06:05 PM

I can't decide if I'm being way Paranoid-new-to-Cali-and-this-happens-every-year-so-chill-out, or if I should seriously start thinking about hooking up our trailer so we can pack the animals out if we need to!
The correct response is to hook up the trailer, load up the pets, grab all your vital paperwork and the family jewels, empty the safe, wrap the horses, hose the roof and then nonchalantly sit back and act like this-happens-every-year-so-chill-out :winkgrin:

My family lived in Ventura County for 15 years and we had at least one fire per year that burned within a half mile of the house. They really enforce the firebreaks there and the firefighters are amazing so we were rarely worried. 93 and 2003 got pretty hairy though. Those eucalyptus trees are the absolute devil when it comes to exploding and sending fire everywhere.

hey101

Oct. 22, 2007, 06:21 PM

They just announced mandatory evacuation of Encinitas and have requested evacuation in Carlsbad. Set up evac centers in Orange County (San Clemente) and are even letting traffic drive through Camp Pendleton.

Silver, I wish I could be as nonchalant as you are, but at the rate at which they are announcing evacuations, and as I watch that fire progression north and west to where we are, and I step outside my office and see and smell smoke everywhere... well, let's just say the trailer is already hooked up ;).

HorseTrouble

Oct. 22, 2007, 06:25 PM

ALL of Fallbrook is being evacuated. My Grandparents are there & won't listen to us when we say leave... I wish there was some way to get to them & help them.

http://www.thevillagenews.com/story.asp?story_ID=26162

jilltx

Oct. 22, 2007, 06:30 PM

Crap crap crap...

Please be safe everyone and take care of your family and pets.

DressageGeek "Ribbon Ho"

Oct. 22, 2007, 06:37 PM

ditto jilltx.

We worry.

classicsporthorses

Oct. 22, 2007, 06:39 PM

I am watching the ABC world news as I write this. My heart is racing.

I am praying so hard for all of you in So. Cal. My Lord Folks I wish I were closer to help. We are on the opposite coast.

I know if I ask my husband he would drive 1/2 way (or more) across the country to meet anyone to bring their horses back here to our farm to safety.

You are all in our prayers!

Leisa

Oct. 22, 2007, 06:46 PM

etk

Oct. 22, 2007, 06:51 PM

http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2007/10/22/news/top_stories/22_17_0210_21_07.txt

Does anyone have any news about Creek Hollow Ranch and/or Ramona in general?

sidepasser

Oct. 22, 2007, 07:03 PM

I can't imagine how anyone could set a fire like this..there are some real wacks running loose in the world. I wish I could help - all I can do is send prayers for y'all and your horses and jingles that everyone gets out safe.

Things can be replaced..our friends, families, horses and pets are what matters most.

Thinking of all of you out there and those that have families there. My SO is out there working..he called to let me know that he may have to evacuate if the fire keep moving north.

MidlifeCrisis

Oct. 22, 2007, 07:06 PM

Posted this on the San Diego thread

Anyone with an available horse trailer can call the San Diego Animal Support Foundation immediately at 619-847-8755.

The El Cajon Animal Shelter, located at 1275 North Marshall, will be open today to receive domestic pets and small livestock animals for emergency boarding. Donations of cat and dog food (canned), blankets and towels are welcomed for those wishing to help.

The Westfield Parkway mall, at 415 Parkway Plaza, has opened an area in the Southeast corner of the outdoor mall near Best Buy & Borders to large livestock since Lakeside rodeo grounds have filled. They've also opened up the Northwest section of their mall parking lot for RV's and campers.

The new Home Depot location at 298 Fletcher Parkway, scheduled to open in mid November, have opened a section of their parking lot to large livestock, RV's & Campers. They also have water available there and port-a-potties available leftover from the construction of the new store.

Granite Hills High School, located at 1719 E. Madison Avenue has opened their parking lots only for large livestock, RV's and campers.

Due to air quality alerts all outdoor activities are canceled today and until further notice. Updates will be given daily. All indoor activities will be held today and until further notice. Therefore recreation centers are open today and indoor instructional classes will be held.

CERT Team members are welcome to help if they're available at the evacuation areas, especially if they are experienced in the handling of large livestock.

Important: Animal Shelters have received literally hundreds of calls in the last few hours from good Samaritans who are offering room, yards, and land for livestock. There is a serious lack of horse trailers to transport these animals. Anyone with an available horse trailer can call the San Diego Animal Support Foundation immediately at 619-847-8755.

The La Mesa Community Center is making sandwiches for bag lunches for evacuees and they could use sandwich meats, apples and oranges. They are located at 4975 Memorial Drive, just off La Mesa Boulevard.

suze

Oct. 22, 2007, 07:16 PM

The Ramona fire started right by Creek Hollow, according to one of our boarders - some horses were evacuated, others got turned out into the arenas & apparently (from a boarder there) everyone left. Word is Colleen's house is gone - no word on the rental. There's another thread here:

http://chronicleforums.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=119076

fire is now burning down Wildcat Canyon, evauation is recommended but not yet mandatory for Crest, Harbison Canyon & south Alpine. Fallbrook is mandatory. Power is back on in Descanso but parts of I-8 are closed due to fire/high wind. We can take horses who tie here at Willow Glen Equestrian Center on Willow Glen Drive in El Cajon - all stalls & corrals are full, but we can tie horses to a solid fence in the front arena. If the winds stay where they are the fire will pass to the southeast of us, just like the Cedar fire did. We aso have some parking if you need it. The city of San Diego has also just opened up Fiesta Island for 500 evacuees with livestock.

DressageGeek "Ribbon Ho"

Oct. 22, 2007, 07:26 PM

Please let us know how we can help if we are miles and miles away.

PreppyPonies

Oct. 22, 2007, 07:39 PM

Leisa

Oct. 22, 2007, 07:44 PM

Word is Colleen's house is gone - no word on the rental.

OH NO!!! How horrid!

Karizma1

Oct. 22, 2007, 07:53 PM

genevieveg17

Oct. 22, 2007, 07:54 PM

OMG - in one of those articles it said that Golden Eagle Farm was in the path and the grooms did not have a chance to evacuate the horses. They have quite a few head (over 200) there with most of them scheduled to go to Barretts next week. What a nightmare for all of the people battling these blazes.

War Admiral

Oct. 22, 2007, 07:54 PM

Jingles and prayers for all y'all.

Little Indian

Oct. 22, 2007, 07:56 PM

From what I've heard Camelot is okay.
I have just driven to Santa Barbara as I have a class tonight that I cannot miss. Going through Camerillo was like driving through a war zone. The smoke was so thick you needed to use your lights or else it was difficult to see in front of you. Mountains that are normally very visable, you could hardly see. We are now also getting smoke from the Santa Ynez fire as of right now.

dreamswept

Oct. 22, 2007, 07:58 PM

http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2007/10/22/news/top_stories/22_17_0210_21_07.txt

Does anyone have any news about Creek Hollow Ranch and/or Ramona in general?

That article mentions Golden Eagle Farm. Word is, they got Salt Lake and a few weanlings out ok, the rest of the horses are fine as well.

Yikes, this disaster is scary. I'm not particularly close to any fires (closest one for me is the Santa Ynez fire) but Santa Barbara is on Red Flag Alert. It's been 17 years since Painted Cave, and I still remember that like it was yesterday, especially considering how close it got to my house.

Wanderluster

Oct. 22, 2007, 08:00 PM

This has been insane. I left with the trailer this morning at 10 to pick up two horses that my friend has at home in Topanga - they are on alert to evacuate. My phone started ringing just after I got back. There was a fire directly across the street from my driveway in some lemon orchards. I must have missed it because when I pulled in there weren't any crews in sight. Fortunately my friend's 30 yr old blind mare loaded without incident and her buddy just followed her in. My thoughts and prayers are with those that are in imminent danger. I hate these damn Santa Anas and the destruction that they cause. :mad:

genevieveg17

Oct. 22, 2007, 08:01 PM

Wow, thats a relief. From the way the article read it made it sound like horses did not survive. It is hard to imagine trying to evacuate that many horses in such a short time.
Thanks for posting that update dreamswept!

blue&blond

Oct. 22, 2007, 08:04 PM

genevieveg17, I just checked their website and they are posting that everyone is fine. :)

Oops, I see someone else just posted the same thing. All is well.

Blinky

Oct. 22, 2007, 08:08 PM

Jingles!!!

How horrific! The fact that some of the fires are arson related is just sickening.

heathersarah3

Oct. 22, 2007, 08:16 PM

I live in central Califorina and I am offering stock horse trailers and truck anyone with info please PM me or Email me at HeatherSarah3@Gmail.com

Cashela

Oct. 22, 2007, 08:17 PM

Still praying for everyone!!!

Someone posted on Equinesite that their friend lost 5 horses :( They only had enough room on the trailer for so many and thought they had time to make a second trip.

Ok, maybe not the right time to ask but I am curious as I have never been in a situation like this, can people ride horses out and pony more or is the fire so fast moving that you just don't have time, or horses are panicking etc.?

dreamswept

Oct. 22, 2007, 08:25 PM

http://news.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=41527

There's the article on Blood Horse about Golden Eagle. Good news about Buena Vista too.

Tamlain

Oct. 22, 2007, 08:26 PM

Crap.....the sun is going down, and the wind seems to be seriously picking up.

I hope everyone that needs to evacuate gets out and is safe.

Blueshadow

Oct. 22, 2007, 08:35 PM

In Norco - my high wind weather alert runs until tomorrow (Tuesday) 6pm...terribly afraid for many tonight. That is when they have predicted the Santa Ana winds to die down. They extended the deadline this afternoon from 3pm tomorrow to 6pm tomorrow..

Groom to Priceless

Oct. 22, 2007, 08:40 PM

Jingles from Michigan from a fellow Californian. I will keep everybody out there in my thoughts.
If anybody knows how Camelot in Newall and Candice Storme's place in Acton is doing, please let me know. Our retired horse is out out there. We are worried for her and all the other horses and people having to go through this.

As far as I've heard Camelot is still OK - - I also know that they have a well established evacuation plan in place. The Stevenson Ranch Fire that just flared up is directly north of them but according to news reports they are expecting this fire to head west (as much as they can guess about these winds at all!!!:eek:). I know from experience that the Camelot folks have done this before - I would expect that they are already putting the first few steps of their plan in place even as I type . . . just in case.

I am just a mile or so away from the northern end of the Canyon Country fire and I have to say that I have been exceedingly impressed with how the horse community has pulled together to help each other out. One of our guys is just up the street from us and we had folks spend the all night at the barn to make sure that the horses were alright. So far so good - he's snug as a bug in a rug right now!!!:) Thanks goodness he's with people who have level heads and have a firm plan in place.

HorseTrouble

Oct. 22, 2007, 08:41 PM

I feel so helpless. I just keep looking to the sky in disbelief....

ArtilleryHill

Oct. 22, 2007, 08:43 PM

They're in Santa Ysabel, and the last I heard was that some people who were trying to get to them to offer veterinary assistance if they needed it were turned back by the authorities.

Big, loud jingles for all in the area of these terrible fires--and kudos and big, loud cheers to all who are helping there!

Lori

Oct. 22, 2007, 08:53 PM

And a lot of the problems are the bloody politicians and tree-huggers. .

One extreme (overpopulation and destruction) has brought about the other (your so called tree huggers). This world has a delicate ecosystem that man is screwing up.

VA is not immune to similar disasters (it is my home state)--just go to the NOAA weather disaster history page and look them up. Just be thankful this is not you or someone close to you because you are not living on hallowed ground.....

I know when my barn burned down here this spring in 30mph winds there was NO stopping it or saving anything in it. It burned so hot is melted everything but metal (and even bent and warped that) and blew over into the corn fields. I cannot imagine 100mph winds fueling a fire in dry conditions.

To those having to deal with this disaster, my heart goes out to you. It seems to me like I hear of alot of these fires in CA being arson related. That is even more sickening. I'll take the tree hugger over the arsonist.

Wanderluster

Oct. 22, 2007, 08:54 PM

Cashela these things are so unpredictable that even the best laid plans are sometimes inadequate. I have a friend that called last year when we were on standby evac. She volunteers to transport every year after surviving the Malibu fire that burnt to the ocean. She recalled leading horses down to the shore and hearing the cries of small animals that were being overtaken by the flames. She had single handedly gotten all of the horses to safety when she remembered that the farm dog might still be contained in one of the ranch houses. She ran back and sadly the dog had died. She is still not able to really talk about it. I am terribly sorry for all those that have suffered a loss in these fires. :cry:

VirginiaBred

Oct. 22, 2007, 09:02 PM

I'm so worried and upset for all of my fellow CA friends and COTHers.

Prayers to all of you.

AHorseSomeDay

Oct. 22, 2007, 09:03 PM

Jingles to everyone and their horses and pets who live in that area. I went to Del Mar and San Diego two years ago and I love it. It's such a beautiful place.

Good luck to everyone who lives there. We are all jingling hard.

Tamlain

Oct. 22, 2007, 09:03 PM

FALLBROOK EVACUEES

I'm up in Anza (30 minutes from Temecula).

I can't offer barn space, but I have a couple pastures and the round pen that all have some sort of treeline defense from the wind up here if anyone is having problems finding space for their horses. Masks would be good to help protect eyes.

Its not a perfect solution, but we aren't being threatened by fires.

I needed, I can manage a stallion or two.

The mini-pen is open as well and has a HUGE pen that can probably manage a couple small ponies.

PM me for contact information if you need a place, email me at tamlain@yahoo.com and I'll keep checking in case you message me.

If you know of where to put that information that it might be of use - please do.

Right now, I'm heading out to feed the horses that live here, but I'll be back after food and watering.

I'm EBO

Oct. 22, 2007, 09:03 PM

Heathersarah--I pm'd you. Maybe we're neighbors? Anyhow---it's related to the fire and moving horses.

mcm7780

Oct. 22, 2007, 09:06 PM

The Sedgwick Fire in Santa Ynez was contained today at 5:00 PM PST and the evacuation order was to be lifted at 6:00 PM.

This is horrible. :cry: Major jingles from a displaced Californian.

heathersarah3

Oct. 22, 2007, 09:15 PM

EMB I PMD u back!

heathersarah3

Oct. 22, 2007, 09:22 PM

I'm EBO I Pm'd you back sorry about previouse post my brain is going faster than my fingers tee hee

hey101

Oct. 22, 2007, 10:20 PM

Hey101~ I board in SJC as well. I just got home from there and the air is much better down there than up at my house in newport. The wind was still up a bit but most of the horses were clam and dealing with the situation fine. I drove by the oaks and it looks like they are taking in horses there. Which makes me feel a little better. I've been emailing w/ my trainer and they are ready to load up if needed but thus far they are confident that we will be okay.

If anyone out there needs a hand just let me know. I don't have a trailer anymore but I have a truck and 2 hands;) Hope everyone and their animals are doing okay.

Preppy, yes I went to see my horses in SJC after work and they, and most of the other horses, all seemed pretty calm for the most part. A few white-eyed snorters, but on the whole, much better than I was picturing. How crazy that the air here is BETTER! It's hazy and smoky and hot and windy and it is completely amazing to me that this has all developed in such a short time. My friends in San Diego and Carlsbad are so far so good, but... this is just surreal. :no:

MidlifeCrisis

Oct. 22, 2007, 10:24 PM

Sabine

Oct. 22, 2007, 10:37 PM

While you do make some valid points, they are lost in your customary holier-than-thou, I-never-make-a-mistake rhetoric that many of us find offensive. I think the folks who live in these areas know the risk. It would be nice if you would bother to actually read the responses of folks like CA ASB, who do have plans and are prepared to implement them. You'd see that not everyone is unprepared or oblivious to the potential danger in which they live. If one used your logic, no one would ever live in any coastal region because of hurricane threat, or in a mountainous one because of the risk of blizzards and winter-related threats, or in a desert where wildfires can occur. Especially when set by humans, as these were. Nice of you to be so sympathetic to folks who are victims of an arsonist.

I feel sorry for you. :no:

Nice post ESG!
those of us who live here do so because we LOVE THE LIFE HERE!!!

There are always potential dangers and I see lots of those in other parts of the country but SoCal offers a lifestyle that is unique and it's not by accident that so many peeps move here...it's a gorgeous place most of the time- right now we have a bit of a bad time- surrounded by fires- hoping for the wind to subside...but we are all helping each other and especially in the horse-community there is a lot of networking and awareness...;)...no patronizing required- but jingles are always welcome and needed right now- for about another 24-48 hours....

Ride'emCO

Oct. 22, 2007, 10:37 PM

A private citizen, recommended by a California Department of Food & Agriculture veterinarian, has volunteered enough property, staff, food, and water resources to care for up to 1,700 horses.

That's wonderfully generous! I wonder who the private citizen is?

Jingling like crazy for all those effected by these fires.

catknsn

Oct. 22, 2007, 10:42 PM

*whew* I just got good news...all of the polo ponies I used to take care of are safe. They had either already moved to Indio for the winter vacation, or they were moved today to a private farm in Glendale.

I was freaking out all day at work after I read that Topanga Canyon was ordered to evacuate all animals. :( Hope everybody else gets good news as I did.

FLIPPED HER HALO

Oct. 22, 2007, 10:53 PM

My daughter and I were at Disneyland for the weekend. Yesterday the wind and smoke was SO bad there all day. We flew out of John Wayne at 10pm and the whole inside of our plane smelled like smoke. But the eerie things was bouncing in those winds looking down at all the fires below in the dark.

I haven't seen the footage of the desperate owners letting their horses free. Their hearts must be breaking. I can't even imagine. I just held and hugged mine when I got home. I wish I was closer to help.

huntingcreek

Oct. 22, 2007, 10:57 PM

After seeing 3' concrete and stone walls blow out during a barn fire in Maryland, I know how fast and hot fires can be. Still have the bent and twisted snaffle that I found in the ruins afterwards. Used to use it to show my students how hot barn fires got and explain why I never allowed smoking on the farm grounds.
Fingers are crossed for all involved along with all the good wishes, thoughts and prayers. THANK YOU to all the volunteers that are currently in the paths of the fires, we're thinking of you all. Knobstetter, you had tears in our eyes too!

Tha Ridge

Oct. 22, 2007, 11:11 PM

What a crappy situation. My boss keeps his horses off of Encinal Canyon Road in Malibu. I spent a lot of time out there this summer - such beautiful land to see burning. :no:

Peggy

Oct. 22, 2007, 11:29 PM

According to the OC Fire authority website (http://www.ocfa.org/ocfamain.asp?pgn1=3), Industry Hills is taking horses.

They list the following under "Animal Evacuation"
OC Fair Ground is closed to animals at this time.
Industry Hills Expo Center will take 125 large animals (626) 330-0324. They are located off of the 60 Freeway between the 57 and 605 freeways
Orange County Animal Shelter off of The City Drive will take 150 dogs and 75 cats.

PiaffeDreams

Oct. 22, 2007, 11:31 PM

With all the wildfires in CA and other western states, why don't the homeowners clear out the underbrush themselves, or the state? I admit this might be a naive question as I'm very unfamiliar with those areas... :(

Someone may have answered this, but science teacher in me is going to step in.

1. That's the ecosystem: Its a chapparel. The terrain and the climate create frequent burns and so the plant life is dry due to the low availability of water, and grows quickly. Nature takes care of overgrowth by burning since its not a grazing land.

2. Terrain: very steep canyons where the fires have to be fought from the air largely. Inclines can really speed a fire up and create even more volatile air currents which can ground air tankers and helicopters from doing their job as effectively as they might in other areas.

3. The Santa Ana winds: they come up fast and off the land which makes them very dry and warm. They are gusty and really push fires in a firestorm. The fires down there are very different and very scary.

Yes, people have to create defensible spaces, but that is sometimes not enough. This area is MEANT to burn. Its what it does. You'll no more stop wildfires in So. Cal than you'll stop tornados in the midwest. All you can do is defend. :( And sometimes that's not even enough.

Then you just have to hope that people are smart and don't do dumb things like try to mow down weeds in late summer or fall with a metal blade mower! Use a weedwhacker with string and have a hose handy. Then there's the nutjob arsonists.... THere are freaks out there.

Coreene

Oct. 23, 2007, 12:07 AM

Oh yikes, thanks to those who emailed, I should have been more clear, it was my office electricity that went out. Sorry!

We have some evacuees in Huntington Beach, plus a few trucks and trailers as well. I was just watching the news with disbelief as to how close the OC fire is to Foothill Ranch. A coworker went home earlier today to pack up his house, and I just pray that he and everyone else's homes make it, in the OC fire and everywhere else.

Big prayers for everyone.

*jumper*

Oct. 23, 2007, 12:08 AM

Please let us know how we can help if we are miles and miles away.

Pray.

Although I'm right in the middle of all this, I feel helpless too. My house is on the coast and thus very safe. My horse is at the OC Fairgrounds and also safe. I helped unload horses all day, and that was about all I could do. I feel horrible not being able to do anything, watching all this destruction right before me yet being able to do absolutely nothing about it. My trainer (khobstetter) has been driving around all day, getting horses to safety, picking up as many horses as possible and getting them anywhere safe. Our equestrian center filled up fast...I think we ran out of permanent stalls about midday, and I know Del Mar is at capacity as well.

This whole thing is terribly frightening, and I pray for all those battling these fires, trying to save their homes and their families. Keep the jingles coming; we need them!!

Plumcreek

Oct. 23, 2007, 12:11 AM

From a QH friend:

Room for horses in Bonsall.
Between us and our neighbor, we still have a few spots for horses that need a temporary place to live due to the So. Cal. fires.

Call Holly or Dave at 760-726-4886

Coreene

Oct. 23, 2007, 12:16 AM

Blueshadow

Oct. 23, 2007, 12:18 AM

Coreene, what's happening in San Juan C.? Do you know? I can't figure it out from the coverage here. Also, does anyone know if Del Mar is still a voluntary or an mandatory evacuation area?

MidlifeCrisis

Oct. 23, 2007, 12:21 AM

Just talked to a friend in Del Mar who lives about 2 blocks from the ocean and just above Torrey Pines. He was forced to evacuate, so I guess all of Del Mar is under mandatory evacuation. I read that the worst health cases were being removed by ambulance from the fairgrounds. I don't know if they're planning to evacuate the evacuees and livestock from the fairgrounds.

FLIPPED HER HALO

Oct. 23, 2007, 12:23 AM

Eastern Del Mar is mandatory......the rest is voluntary.

Voluntary evacuation in place for all of Del Mar
Posted @ 9:14 PM
A dispatch from the city of Del Mar's web site: "For your safety, we are strongly advising that all Del Mar residents evacuate." A mandatory evacuation remains in place for eastern Del Mar.
Residents were told to go north to El Toro High School at 25255 Toledo Way, Lake Forest.

Those who need help leaving are told to call 858-704-3694.

In addition, the Del Mar Fairgrounds cannot receive additional clients with special needs as they are at full capacity. The City of Oceanside has opened a shelter at El Camino High School, 400 Rancho Del Oro, Oceanside, for these evacuees.

Little Indian

Oct. 23, 2007, 12:24 AM

God, I cannot believe the fires have spread this fast. It is incredibly surreal.

I'm EBO

Oct. 23, 2007, 12:24 AM

FLIPPED HER HALO

Oct. 23, 2007, 12:26 AM

What really ticks me off in the midst of all this tragedy is that they have looters running loose....

huntingcreek

Oct. 23, 2007, 12:27 AM

]At some point in the next few days, word will get out re whose places survived and whose did not. For those of us who have extra tack, halters, brushes, blankets, etc., start thinking about what you would be able to live without to help fellow horsepeople

Thanks for thinking ahead....I have loads of odds and ends, blankets, halters, brushes, etc etc. and would love to be a base for people in Central CA to drop off items and we'll deliver to where ever necessary in So Cal, to help out once needs are known. PM me either way. It's a small way the rest of us can help.

huntingcreek

Oct. 23, 2007, 12:30 AM

At some point in the next few days, word will get out re whose places survived and whose did not. For those of us who have extra tack, halters, brushes, blankets, etc., start thinking about what you would be able to live without to help fellow horsepeople

Thanks for thinking ahead....I have loads of odds and ends, blankets, halters, brushes, etc etc. and would love to be a base for people in Central CA to drop off items and we'll deliver to where ever necessary in So Cal, to help out once needs are known. PM me either way. It's a small way the rest of us can help.[/QUOTE]

PiaffeDreams

Oct. 23, 2007, 12:31 AM

At some point in the next few days, word will get out re whose places survived and whose did not. For those of us who have extra tack, halters, brushes, blankets, etc., start thinking about what you would be able to live without to help fellow horsepeople.

It is probably a bit hard to organize this sort of effort in the midst of hte crisis, but perhaps someone is good at such things or is holds office in a group/horseman's club/etc. that can set up a donation account? Could CDS chapters etc. be part?

I would love to be able to help by sending funds to help pay for feeding horses displaced, or sending tack supplies..... I'm sure there are others who would like to do the same.

There just has to be a way to centralize accumulation of supplies and distribution?

Chief2

Oct. 23, 2007, 12:52 AM

Can we set up the posts for donations and places to send them (supplies and $) under a separate post so it would be easier to find them? Am happy to donate. My brother's home is in Santa Clarita (Newhall), and my nephew's is in Valencia, near the Magic fire. The fire and horse evacuation video's say it all.

BasqueMom

Oct. 23, 2007, 01:51 AM

Didn't Mary's Tack act as a central point/collection during the last fires?

Horsaholic

Oct. 23, 2007, 01:55 AM

What a nightmare this is.. thank you Khobstetter! We may be able to take a couple down here in Temecula.. We are having a hard time evacuating San Diego horses to bring up here due to all the highway closures.. Please let me know if you need space for a few to come down south, I have a friend that may have some free space.

lunchbox

Oct. 23, 2007, 01:58 AM

OMG there is a new fire about 2 miles from our ranch in Sand Canyon, in Santa Clarita.

More later.

(I'm not there right now but my horses are).

pegasus209

Oct. 23, 2007, 02:00 AM

What a nightmare--Sending jingles for everyone there!!
I'm praying everyone, people and animals, gets out safely

ESG

Oct. 23, 2007, 03:33 AM

My thoughts and prayers are with you all. Texas-sized jingles that everyone stays safe.

lunchbox, how's it with you?

Aimee Thanatogenus

Oct. 23, 2007, 03:56 AM

...
Originally Posted by Trakehner View Post
blahblahblah ...
Oh do shut up.

Yes, do shut up.

BTW, many fervent prayers for all of you who must deal with this horror.

Weatherford

Oct. 23, 2007, 04:36 AM

This is the best map (or rather most frightening) (http://lang.dailynews.com/socal/editorial/inter/wildfires/socal.html)I've found.

My prayers are there for you - as well as the Irish nation's - believe me, it is on all the news here and prayers are being sent up everywhere.

Take care and don't take chances.

And for anyone who really wants to get away - there is a cheap flight to Ireland on Aer Lingus from LAX - I will pick you up in Shannon, if necessary.

Cielo Azure

Oct. 23, 2007, 07:25 AM

Having grown up in Santa Barbara county, and having been evacuated (horses were transported without me knowing where they went), all this just brings tears to my eyes for all of you people trying to save your animals while trying to save your homes.

I keep viewing evacuation spots (fair grounds, etc) on Internet video and I am struck that horses don't appear to have any indentifying papers/marks that are in view. If the horse gets evacuated again, will the new place keep track? That happened to me in the 1980s; it was tramautic not knowing where my horse was for a day.

So, I have one little tip that I heard and thought was quite good. If you can't stay with your horses or if you are in contact with someone who is transporting your horse, paint (or get painted) your telephone number as large as possible on your horse. Spray paint is ideal but in a pinch, a can of paint and brush would work. A sharpie will also work on light colored or leather halters to write your name and telephone number.

Thinking of you all.

mbamissaz

Oct. 23, 2007, 07:53 AM

I am so sorry that you all are having to deal with this nightmare. I literally feel sick reading the devastating disaster that you're all going through right now. My prayers are with you and all of your animals. Trakehner, your lack of sensitivity in this awful time is disgusting.

Nikki17

Oct. 23, 2007, 08:05 AM

Trak.--take your ignorant ass somewhere else and shut the hell up.

jilltx

Oct. 23, 2007, 08:51 AM

Still ***JINGLING*** like mad...

http://www.sandiego.com/

Good map of recent activity. Unfortunately, it shows a fire very close to my cousin's house. :(

ivy62

Oct. 23, 2007, 08:59 AM

I live in NY and I have family and friends in Poway. The night before last Lucidi farms was evacutated to Del Mar race track. Are they safe there or will this fire spread as far as the ocean? My girl friend whose horse is now there was evacuated out of her home as well as my sister who lives up the grade from Lucidi. We have not been able to reach them and do not know where they are or how they are.
This is awful. I feel for all of you in this horrible time...RAIN,RAIN,RAIN

JINGLES JINGLES JINGLES for all invovled with tragedy...

I have been there for the Santa Anas previously, my parents used to live in Oceanside, and they are hot and dry unbelievably so......
The pictures are scarey...Hope everyone is okay....
Wish I could help...

MidlifeCrisis

Oct. 23, 2007, 09:07 AM

Current fire maps for San Diego can be found at www.signonsandiego.com on the right side of the homepage. Top map is Del Mar Rancho Santa Fe Ramona area. Bottom map is Bonita Chula Vista area near the mexican border.

Spoke to a friend near La jolla this morning at 5 am. He, wife and pets are leaving to come up to the Bay Area before I5 gets closed. Offered to bring my dad but he won't go. He's not in fire danger but he's in poor health and the air quality could do him in.

This is just a f'in nightmare. Jingles for everyone on the front lines.

Blueshadow

Oct. 23, 2007, 09:56 AM

I posted several pages back that there is room in central CA along the I-5 corridor for displaced horses. There are trailers and trucks enough to transport 25 horses (in a pinch), but high winds through the mountains make it dangerous to haul through there at this point.

I hope horses don't need to move so far away (we're about 2.5 to 3 hours away from Santa Clarita), but if they do, there are safe places here for them.

Also, I know some people in the Lancaster/Hesperia area--who are without fire so far--sand doesn't burn. They could also take in horses. (I'll call them and tell them you're coming :winkgrin:.)

Blueshadow, how's your friend in Alpine? Still okay, hopefully.

I'm EBO, I just woke up and all I can see on the map is that Castaic is on fire. That usually means that the I-5 between Castaic and Frazier Park will go up in flames, even if it takes a while...there is a possibility that three horses will need transportation out of the far west Antelope Valley and down towards you sometime in the next couple of days - I will let you know. Thanks for thinking of them.:)

Albion

Oct. 23, 2007, 10:40 AM

I don't believe La Jolla is in any immanent danger (I live in downtown SD, but go to UCSD for grad school) - I have a professor who lives up there, near UCSD's campus & he's housing -another- prof who had to evacuate thanks to the Ramona fire; we (being a hardcore department :P) met at his house for seminar yesterday, since classes were cancelled. I thought it was a bit of funny in an extraordinarily unfunny period.

In any case, I've been taking my cue from my profs (who have been here decades) and keeping an eye on what UCSD has to say - which, right now, is simply 'hold tight.' I just can't believe all this - I'm from the East coast & snow days are fun (if rare), but I'd happily NEVER have another 'wildfire day'. :no:

riverbell93

Oct. 23, 2007, 10:42 AM

Such a scary situation, but at least there's only been one person killed so far. I hope that everyone (human and animal) in harm's way escapes.

Coreene

Oct. 23, 2007, 10:48 AM

Trakehner, it is people like you that make me so happy to have an Ignore list.

I'm EBO

Oct. 23, 2007, 10:57 AM

jilltx

Oct. 23, 2007, 10:58 AM

Little Indian

Oct. 23, 2007, 11:02 AM

Rain would probably be the worst thing that could happen as it would trigger numerous mud slides. I cannot find ANYTHING on the news here in Santa Barbara. In fact, I cannot seem to find any news here right now! I do know though that I left my window open this past weekend and my once white sheets are black with ash. I feel so out of the loop, I will probably be listening to am 1070 most of the day. They have pretty good fire coverage.

Coreene

Oct. 23, 2007, 11:03 AM

What seems odd to me is that, according to the news coverage, the fires come to a dead halt at the border with Mexico. Are they NOT on fire too?

Coreene--how's Oliver doing with all the yucky air? Is your facility safe?We are 25 miles from the OC fire, and Oliver just had a T.O. yesterday and will have the same today. The air is unhealthful for everyone, so since they can't stay inside, hopefully people will back off making them work. The wind has just started picking up again where we are. :(

Timex

Oct. 23, 2007, 11:04 AM

more jingles from NY. :(

MidlifeCrisis

Oct. 23, 2007, 11:08 AM

Coreene...glad to see you're okay darlin. :)

Has anyone heard any specific news about Encinitas??? I'm having a hard time getting any information, so I was hoping you guys out in the general vacinity might have better coverage than I'm seeing here.

Go to www.signonsandiego.com to see the burn map. Fire has reached east side of Fairbanks Ranch and I think parts of Olivenheim. That same website has a forum that's useful for posting requests for info about specific areas.

jilltx

Oct. 23, 2007, 11:17 AM

Midlife...I've had it up this morning, but the taffic must have picked up, because it's not coming up for me now. :( They're between Olive. and Rancho Sante Fe area. I've had severalk dropped calls this morning from them, but I'm trying to stay off the line.

Blueshadow

Oct. 23, 2007, 11:18 AM

VirginiaBred

Oct. 23, 2007, 11:21 AM

Just spoke with Tish Quirk, who is holding on as best she can. All her horses are with her (after being evacuated) and she asks for continued prayers. It's moment by moment.

Albion

Oct. 23, 2007, 11:26 AM

Jilltx, This Google map (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msa=0&msid=107592071260393044446.00043d12d7e7e7af51aaa) was created by a person who posted it on the San Diego LiveJournal community (http://community.livejournal.com/san_diego/). There's a LOT of information on that map, so wait for it to load - but you can zoom in/go to specific areas, etc.

It's kind of hard to read, but it's actually been coming -up- and is being updated constantly, so.

jilltx

Oct. 23, 2007, 11:34 AM

Thank you Albion. :)

I feel so helpless. :(

MidlifeCrisis

Oct. 23, 2007, 11:35 AM

I guess traffic has picked up as people have woken up this morning. On signonsandiego.com, there is a forum where people are posting questions and info about specific areas. I would try to go there or to the san diego craigslist which has a fire forum.

I'm up in Berkeley so I can't offer much help. I'm just trying to keep on top of things long distance to help my dad out.

Chef Jade

Oct. 23, 2007, 11:36 AM

I know this is a long way for a lot of you but maybe it will help someone.
Picked up from a San Diego news site.

Horse stables for 1,700 available in Indio
Posted @ 7:17 PM

Evacuees are invited to stable their horses at a horse farm in the Thermal-Indio area.

A private citizen, recommended by a California Department of Food & Agriculture veterinarian, has volunteered enough property, staff, food, and water resources to care for up to 1,700 horses. For more information, County residents can call (760) 399-2716.

I received an e-mail that the HITS showgrounds were taking horses in Thermal. Maybe this is the location discussed above.

The e-mail also stated that Oaks/Blenheim was taking horses.

So far I think all my horses are OK. The OC fire is still about 7-8 miles north/west of them. A fellow Coth'er has her house and horses MUCH closer but the "good news" is the area between her and the current fire burned about 6 months ago. My little guy is at a TB farm out in Perris where it is relatively flat and well irrigated. I (hopefully) don't have to worry about him.

Joh Bragg just moved his OC operation to Silverado Canyon/Williams Canyon where the Lefmans also train. I heard that area was evacuated. Hopefully they are all doing OK.

SoEasy

Oct. 23, 2007, 11:39 AM

LittleIndian ... have you heard from DTD lately???
All the news from San Diego is overshadowing the fact that there is still no containment in Malibu or the other fires north of LA...

I'm worried for all of you out there

Little Indian

Oct. 23, 2007, 11:44 AM

yeah, she is here at the condo in Carp because her grandmother's (where her family and dogs were evacuated to) house does not have running water. I do not believe she is going to class though to keep an eye on the fire. A house did burn on her street, although it was a little closer to the fire station (it wasn't hers) and Sean Penn's airstreams and property has burned (also on her street). The fire has apparently moved from Carbon Canyon/Mesa (her area) to a neighboring canyon. In 1993, the Fire burned right up to the edge of her home and it stopped. We've seen her home a few times in the last few days thanks to news coverage and it is still standing.

MidlifeCrisis

Oct. 23, 2007, 11:46 AM

Found this in the forum mentioned above
http://forum.signonsandiego.com/showthread.php?t=79354

A friendly reminder to try not to tie up these sites by taking a look out of curiosity. Save the traffic for those that really need it.

FLIPPED HER HALO

Oct. 23, 2007, 11:52 AM

Can anyone help?

HORSES & GOATS IN SPRING VALLEY NEED TO BE RESCUED
Horse trailers are needed to rescue 31 horses and about 15 goats. These animals will also need a place to be boarded. The animals are currently located at the Diamond T Ranch in Spring Valley at 9061 Avocado Road. If you can help transport any of these animals, please call: 619-715-1395.

MissFit

Oct. 23, 2007, 11:53 AM

Right now the "witch" fire seems to be very volatile. From reports of people still there, it seems to be doubling back a bit towards Escondido. From what I have heard, the air quality at Del Mar Horsepark is "okay", but they are keeping a VERY close eye on the fire as it travels down Del Dios Highway.
Your thoughts are appreciated. We had an "evacuation party" last night. It seems like, when in a crisis, most people grab photos, important documents, and any wine still in the fridge.
It lends a bit of the surreal to the entire deal.

FlashGordon

Oct. 23, 2007, 12:03 PM

Scary stuff.... :( last night hubby and I saw folks on TV w/ trailers evacuating horses and whatnot. So very sad.

Jingling for you all!

MSP

Oct. 23, 2007, 12:16 PM

I have stumbled onto some sites with info I thought I would post. Hope this helps and hasn't already been posted.

I have been lurking and just trying to stay out of the way! I hope every one and their animals get safely out of harms way!

http://www.fox6.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=4a6d6ca1-8e52-4f4f-9803-65d1afe48172

http://www.pethobbyist.com/sitenews/index.php?/archives/143-Southern-California-Fires-Mass-evacuations-of-people,-animals.html

If you have animals or livestock that you cannot evacuate yourself or that need to be rescued, call (619) 236-4250 and press Š1‰ for emergency services.

If you have a stable or other areas that are safe and can house a number of large animals and livestock that need to be evacuated, please call the San Diego Humane Society at (619) 299-7012. SDHS is also in need of portable livestock panels for temporary corrals. If you have these available for use, please call (619) 299-7012.

Volunteers and supplies are not needed at this time, but the San Diego Humane Society is keeping a list of names for people interested in helping.

If you would like to help, you can donate online at www.sdhumane.org or call (619) 299-7012.

http://www.nvadg.org/disaster_groups.html

California Regional Animal Disaster Groups

Organization Name: Alta Roma Riding Club Emergency Response Team (ALTRC ERT)
Region: Rancho Cucamonga
Scope/Mission: Emphasis is on evacuation of horses.
Association/Sponsor: Rancho Cucamonga Fire Department
Coordinator/Contact Information: Bob Olari olari1@aol.com (909) 987 8677
Webpage: http://www.altalomaridingclub.com/altalomaridingclub/ERT.htm
Resources: 20-30 Volunteers with trailers
Insurance Information: Unknown
Additional Information: This group was very active during the 2003 Southern California fires.
Nonprofit Status: 501 (3) (c)

Organization Name: Santa Cruz County Equine Evacuation Unit
Region: Santa Cruz County
Scope/Mission: Emphasis is on evacuation of horses.
Association/Sponsor: County Office of Emergency Services
Coordinator/Contact Information: Lyn Hood lyhood@cabrillo.edu
831-475-3323, Steve Richmond muckerstwo@aol.com, 831-335-3542
Webpage: n/a
Resources: 150 Volunteers, broken into 8 area teams, with trailers
Insurance Information: Worker's Comp. through OES
Additional Information: Established in 1997, have done flood evacuations
in the Santa Cruz Mountains, on standby for fire evac. in other counties.
Nonprofit Status: No, Under OES

Organization Name: CVMA Disaster Response Group of Nevada County
Region: Nevada and Placer Counties
Scope/Mission: Assist in evacuation and sheltering of animals
Association/Sponsor: California Veterinary Medical Association (CVMA)
Coordinator/Contact Information: Pat Elhers (530) 477-6506
Webpage: http://www.cvma.net
Resources: 200+ Volunteers Nevada/ 50+ Volunteers Placer
Insurance Information: CVMA and Disaster Service Workers
Additional Information: Mutual aid to Placer County.
Nonprofit Status: Unknown

Organization Name: North Valley Animal Disaster Group (NVADG)
Region: Butte County (Surrounding areas via Mutual Aid)
Scope/Mission: Working with emergency services to educate the public about disaster preparedness,
and assist in sheltering and evacuation of animals during a disaster.
Primary emphasis is on assisting local fire departments with evacuation and sheltering of animals during fires and floods.
Association/Sponsor: Sponsored by Butte County Animal Control. Also Butte County Emergency Services Office, as all Volunteers are Disaster Service Workers.
Coordinator/Contact Information: Hotline (530) 895-0000, PO Box 441, Chico CA 95927,
Coordinator: John Maretti (530) 345-0240 jmaretti@ci.chico.ca.us nvadginfo@yahoo.com
Webpage: http://www.NVADG.org
Resources: 100 Volunteers (30 with horse trailers), large storage trailer with temporary shelter equipment
Insurance Information: Liability and Worker's Compensation through Butte County Public Health. Also covered through Disaster Service Worker.
No Board of Directors insurance.
Additional Information: This group has done an excellent job of training and coordinating with local emergency services.
All Volunteers on the Evacuation Team are required to have Pre-Exposure Rabies Vaccination.
Nonprofit Status: 501 (3) (c) Federal and State

Organization Name: County Public Health Animal Care and Control
Region: San Bernardino
Scope/Mission: County Animal Control
Association/Sponsor: County Public Health
Coordinator/Contact Information: Captain Steve Fries (909) 891-3857
Webpage: n/a
Resources: They have about 20 people that have 8 hours of training. They ride with ACOs during a disaster.
Insurance Information: Disaster Service Worker
Additional Information: Coordinated NGOs during the Southern California Fires. (NORCO, Alto Loma Riding Club, HSUS, AHA)
Nonprofit Status: no

Organization Name: Emergency Animal Rescue (EAR)
Region: San Diego
Scope/Mission: We provide emergency assistance and evacuations for animals both domestic and wildlilfe that are in life threatening situations. We are not an adoption or rehabilitation facility.
Association/Sponsor:
Coordinator/Contact Information: Doug Lake, Jan Pincton ear@rescueteam.com
(760) 789-5775 P: (760) 735-0448
Webpage: http://www.emergencyanimalrescue.org
Resources: 50+ Volunteers
Insurance Information: Liability insurance only
Additional Information: MOU with United Animal Nations, and we have also worked two national disasters with Code 3 Associates along with I.F.A.W.
Nonprofit Status: 501 (3) (c)

Organization Name: San Diego Animal Rescue Reserves (ARS)
Region: San Diego County
Scope/Mission: Evacuation and sheltering of large animals (horses)
Association/Sponsor: San Diego Humane Society (Not to be confused with San Diego Animal Services)
Coordinator/Contact Information: ARS Coordinator: Lt. Paul Brizuela (619) 299-7012
Volunteer Coordinator: Suzette Hunter
Humane Society Director: Mark Goldstein, Assistant Director: Renee Harris
Webpage: n/a
Resources: 30 Volunteers, most with horse trailers
Insurance Information: Unknown
Additional Information: This group was very active during the September 2003 fires.
Nonprofit Status: Unknown

Organization Name: County of San Diego Department of Animal Services
Region: San Diego, California
Scope/Mission: Evacuation and sheltering of animals.
Association: County Government
Coordinator/Contact Information: Lt. Dan Desousa Dan.Desousa@sdcounty.ca.gov 619 767 2624
twenty-four hour dispatch (non-public) 619 531 6051
Department Director: Dawn Danielson 619 767 2766
Web Page: n/a
Resources: 35 Animal Control Officers, two horse trailers, 3 animal shelters
Insurance information: self insured
Additional information: This department was the lead agency during the devastating fires in October 2003.
Nonprofit Status: no

Organization Name: Yuba Sutter Domestic Animal Disaster Assistance
Region: Yuba and Sutter County
Scope/Mission: Evacuation and sheltering of animals, ongoing community
awareness of importance of preplanning with pets for disasters; support for
inclusion of animal component in counties' emergency response plans
Association/Sponsor:
Coordinator/Contact Information: Ginny Paschke (530) 674-1190, lostoak@jps.net
Webpage: http://www.ysdada.org
Resources: 30 Volunteers
Insurance Information: CVMA
Additional Information: This is the area that was devastated during the 1997 floods and prompted the forming of CARES.
Nonprofit Status: 501 (3) (c)

Organization Name: South County Large Animal Rescue
Region: El Dorado County
Scope/Mission: Primarily to assist in disaster evacuation of animals facilitated by working with emergency services and local Fire Safe Council. To educate the public about disaster preparedness & evacuation protocols.
Association/Sponsor:
Coordinator/Contact Information: South County Large Animal Rescue, PO box 445 Somerset, Ca 95684.
E-Mail is SouthcountyLAR@yahoo.com
Telephone: (530)626-6757 Ryn Woll or (530)409-1203 Aimee Burkhart
Webpage: http://www.sclar.org
Resources: 40+ Registered Disaster Service Workers; over 50 members; Approximately 20 with horse trailers and facilities.
Insurance Information: Liability and DSW as applies
Additional Information: Our goal is to have each member become a Registered Disaster Service Worker. We are very community oriented and actively promote our organization through community involvement
Nonprofit Status: 501(c)(3)

lunchbox

Oct. 23, 2007, 12:19 PM

Good news on my end. The Soledad/Sand Canyon fire (about 2 miles from my ranch) is out. It started late last night and fortunately was burning away from our area and up some hills. But they got on it rght away. Thank you Fire Department.

Thanks for the well wishes and jingles to all.

Blueshadow

Oct. 23, 2007, 12:23 PM

Lake Piru just started to burn (new fire)...four years ago that morphed into the Fillmore/Moorpark fire.

Little Indian

Oct. 23, 2007, 12:33 PM

I have just heard on knx 1070 that the fire is now on san fernando road in newhall. This is a few miles away from camelot. Does anybody else have confirmation on this??

LongLeaf

Oct. 23, 2007, 12:49 PM

HUGE Georgia prayers and jingles to those involved.

Coreene

Oct. 23, 2007, 12:54 PM

We have dogs at the office today that came in with coworkers whose homes are too close to the OC fire.

Giant, huge hugs to everyone and praying hard for miracles. :yes:

jilltx

Oct. 23, 2007, 01:15 PM

I just got a message fro my cousin saying they're safe in a hotel in downtown San Diego. Their house is south-west of Olivenhain (generally towards Cardiff) and he said the fire is less than 3 miles from his house.

***Jingles*** for all involved.

Mozart

Oct. 23, 2007, 01:18 PM

My thoughts are with all of you dealing with the fires in CA. Please stay safe.

Little Indian

Oct. 23, 2007, 01:23 PM

Okay so I have now heard twice that a seperate fire in newhall has broken out apart from the santa clarita fire. It is on san fernando road. It is supposed to be under control although I do not know how many acres it has consumed so far. If anybody has any information at all on how camelot is holding up it would be greatly appreciated. Their upper arena backs up to a ton of brush

Diamondindykin

Oct. 23, 2007, 01:49 PM

My parents live in Oceanside but they fine. My step-father told me that he went by the local Walmart and it is full of horse trailers and horses tied to them. It sounds like most places are full and they are having to make due in Walmart parking lots. Sad, sad situation!

FLIPPED HER HALO

Oct. 23, 2007, 01:51 PM

This is from the bay area equestrian network. She has a rescue down there....

Prayers PLEASE! Nikki is trying to stick it out in Valley Center!

She's getting covered with smoke and embers trying to save their 60+ horses just south of Mt.Palomar.
She just said " IVE GOT SCARF AROUND MOUTH, JUST FOUND MY SKI GOGGLES AND NEED THEM FOR THE EYES. IM NOT LEAVIN, AM WETTING EVERYTHING, TRYING TO WATCH THE NEWS BUT THERES SOO MANY FIRES THEY BARELY TOUCH ON THIS ONE. I WILL JUST MAKE SURE THE ANIMALS ARE SAFE..I COULD CARE LESS ABOUT THE HOUSES HERE... "

Please PLEASE include her in your prayers!!! She's scared to death.. but is staying to try and save the horses!

War Admiral

Oct. 23, 2007, 01:58 PM

Dear God. Jingles.

AlterEgoManiac

Oct. 23, 2007, 02:00 PM

I'm tearing up reading updates on this thread...:cry: my thoughts and prayers are with you in CA....

Cashela

Oct. 23, 2007, 02:08 PM

sidepasser

Oct. 23, 2007, 02:10 PM

Chief2

Oct. 23, 2007, 02:14 PM

ivy62

Oct. 23, 2007, 02:51 PM

I have a friend who took her horse to Del Mar track Sunday night and have not heard from her since. She and my sister who live in Poway have been evac'd also. What will happen to the horses at Del Mar if the owners are not there if they have to get out?

Little Indian

Oct. 23, 2007, 03:22 PM

If anybody is interested I posted possible donation information on the donation thread. I do not know if either feed store is doing anything of the sort but it wouldn't hurt to call and find out. You can call Red Barn
Feed at 818 345 2510 to see if they will deliver hay or halters or electrolytes to Pierce
College. You will obviously have to give them your cc number but they are reliable as I order from them all of the time. You can also try calling
Kahoots feed. I do not have their number off hand as I'm typing this from my blackberry but you can google search Kahoots Feed Chatsworth California and that should give you a phone number with an 818 area code. They too may be able to deliver hay feed halters fly masks electrolytes etc to pierce college.

Blueshadow

Oct. 23, 2007, 03:35 PM

Where on San Fernando is this? My brother's house is in the San Fernando/Lyons Ave area. He lost his last house in the Northridge quake. My nerves are firing like crazy here. Any info would be appreciated.

Hi, Lyons is close to where the santa clarita/newhall fires are - is your brother close to the I-5 where he lives?

Chef Jade

Oct. 23, 2007, 03:48 PM

I just heard that the OC fire flared up and is burning through Modjeska and is out of control in that area. The firefighters are letting it go. :(

The bright side is I just spoke with my vet who said things are very quiet because almost everyone evacuated early. Though my trainer received a call from a terrified friend because they hadn't gotten their horses yet, and were too late to do so. Don't know the details, however. :cry:

knowonder

Oct. 23, 2007, 03:54 PM

Coming late to the thread, but offering up multiple prayers to The Big Guy and a very special prayer for brave Nikki.

Please God, keep those who are fighting this fire safe.
Please be with those who have chosen to stay behind and protect their animals.
Please be with those who are separated from loved ones, both two-legged and four-legged.
Pleaes be with the animals who are displaced, terrified and lost.
Give them all the peace and assurance You can grant and see them all safely through this disaster.

Amen

Lambie Boat

Oct. 23, 2007, 04:04 PM

Any news from German Dressage at Rancho Los Amigos? Gay and Susan Walker? please update if you have heard anything. Glad Coreene and Oliver are staying safe. How frightening.

catknsn

Oct. 23, 2007, 04:08 PM

Feisome, who is the trainer on Winding Way in Malibu? Is that Susan? If so, my friend's daughter trains with her and I've met her at a show. My friend lives higher up on Winding Way and said his property/horses were not endangered.

CA ASB

Oct. 23, 2007, 04:09 PM

Okay, I'm going to check in since I've been *away* :eek: from the PC for a few days. Thought I'd give some of you what it was like yesterday ...

Before I start, I still have a house thanks to the wonderful firemen from Yorba Linda. Anyone who has watched the news and actually seen what they now are terming the "Foothill Ranch" or Santiago Canyon fire got to see my house last night. They filmed from our cul-de-sac (from what I've been told). TWO helo drops directly on my house and my neighbors house saved it the first time.

Come back the first time at 10:30 pm ... two guys in a truck pull up in front of my house ... they're from 30 miles away (so what do YOU think they were doing there) and we scared them off. Got the cops on the line and they came out. They apologized to us for not being there sooner - the firemen tell you to leave the house unlocked so they can get in to fight a fire ... and then the looters show up with open doors.

Went back down to the barn to retrieve my cat. Second time around, I came back at 11:30, took a shower and was talking to my friend (and watching the news) when I heard the firetrucks pull up again. Went upstairs to look out front - and there are 2 firetrucks out there - and sparks flying.

Think better of being in just a robe and start to get dressed. Look out the back window and now there are embers flying over the house and landing in the backyard creating tiny spot fires. Start dressing faster. Go back to the front of the house - and less than 30 feet away across the cul-de-sac is a 40 foot wall of flame. :o:eek:

Grab cat, keys and purse. Remember shoes. Jump in car and leave again as firefighters are pulling hoses across my yard and saving house again.

Blueshadow - Nick and Miss P are fine. For anyone in the area, Serrano Creek is accepting horses. We are tying them anywhere we can in the arenas.

My trainer just called from Temecula (1.25 hours away w/no traffic). Fire seems to be spreading that direction now (she's at the corner of dePortola and Anza), so I may be headed out there to help her evac 30 head. She's by herself as the other trainer is at Arab Nationals and her help lives in Escondido and can't get out.

For those concerned about Encinitas - the voluntary evac is for everyone currently east of the 5 freeway. However, the Encinitas Senior Center has been set up as an evac center. That is immediately next door to Oak Crest Junior High - which is at the top of the hill just west of El Camino Real - so if they are in the older part of Encinitas (west of El Camino), they are probably still in good shape.

blue&blond

Oct. 23, 2007, 04:14 PM

Wow CA ASB!!! Very glad to hear that your house (and kitty) are OK! Thanks for checking in and giving an update.

Coreene

Oct. 23, 2007, 04:14 PM

Just endless sadness in it all. :cry:

Lambie Boat

Oct. 23, 2007, 04:15 PM

Looters? now that's LOW. how can they even get back there when everyone has been evacuated? Looters? geezzzzz:no:

catknsn...I boarded on Winding Way 16 years ago and there was no trainer at Kate's place back then. Now? I don't even know if Kate is still there, as I heard her husband passed away. Just lost track. but I DO remember the fires. It's a horrible experience.

Coreene

Oct. 23, 2007, 04:18 PM

FEI, I wish you were still down here. Miss you terribly. So does Ollie.