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holmes
Jul. 8, 2007, 11:58 PM
Hopefully he will come back to the US however with the Japanese having spent $17M for him, they probably want to get some of that which I doubt will happen.

I think he only sired 34 horses, a few have one - the farm hopes to breed off one of them.

wildrose ryder
Jul. 9, 2007, 12:11 AM
do you mean they never bred him, or that none have caught?

I'm curious, because well, we all know Ferdinands story

bugsynskeeter
Jul. 9, 2007, 12:12 AM
http://breeding.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=39675

Texarkana
Jul. 9, 2007, 12:26 AM
Let's bring him back and let him run again! :lol:

(I'm kidding, I'm kidding...)

Anyone have the link to that "Brokeback War Emblem" youtube video? Ah wait, here it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZS0Ih4YY-EA

SmplySweet1021
Jul. 9, 2007, 10:05 AM
I chuckled when I saw this $17 million and NOTHING

holmes
Jul. 9, 2007, 10:15 AM
Sure beats $16M.......................

Pronzini
Jul. 9, 2007, 10:16 AM
do you mean they never bred him, or that none have caught?

I'm curious, because well, we all know Ferdinands story

Ferdinand was never at Shadai.

I'm sure War Emblem will be just fine.

Davignport
Jul. 9, 2007, 11:16 AM
How nice it would be to have War Emblem come home. I guess the horselover in me would love to see him have a nice home and just be a horse with someone to love him. I know the racing/breeding game is ALL about the money, but it sure seems that he has NO interest in breeding. I guess I can dream....

Melelio
Jul. 9, 2007, 11:27 AM
Maybe he simply HATES Japan, and is depressed. I hope a farm here brings him back and lets him be free on grass again not stuck in a stall.

asb_own_me
Jul. 9, 2007, 11:57 AM
Maybe he's shy...or gay ;)

Pronzini
Jul. 9, 2007, 12:09 PM
FWIW--War Emblem at Shadai

http://www.shadaitc.co.jp/information/outline/sutarion/shuboba/WarEmblem.html

summerhorse
Jul. 9, 2007, 01:10 PM
Hopefully they will sell him to a farm in the US (actually the insurance company owns part of him as they made a fertility claim) who will try to pasture breed him. Just turn him out with his own mares and see if nature will take its course over a couple of years. If it doesn't then he could go to Old Friends.

ravenclaw
Jul. 9, 2007, 01:35 PM
The War Emblem story is almost as good as The Green Monkey story. :lol:

catknsn
Jul. 9, 2007, 04:23 PM
Agree with those who say they hope someone brings him home...and yes, I'd try pasture breeding.

Glimmerglass
Feb. 15, 2008, 11:38 AM
There is a nice picture of him running in his snowy paddock.

BloodHorse 2-14-08 "War Emblem Showing Promise" (http://news.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=43649)


With the dual American classic winner notching his first Japanese group stakes winner Feb. 11 and his limited number of progeny performing well enough to place him among the leading third-crop sires, Shadai officials will persevere with the temperamental stallion this year.

“We want to try to get him to serve mares this year,” Shadai spokesman Eisuke Tokutake said Feb. 13. “My understanding is that we are going to keep trying, at least for this season.

"War Emblem is proving himself to be a very good sire for his progeny results. We all wish he would improve as a stallion. That would make everyone happy and probably make him happy, too.”

Although offers for the horse have been received from international interests, Shadai has opted to hold on to War Emblem, a $17 million acquisition, in hopes that he eventually will perform in the breeding shed. A variety of tactics has been tried to stimulate his interest, with more planned this year.

“It is early in the season so we haven’t started much yet, but we are considering moving him to somewhere else in our group of properties, and we are considering some other options,” Tokutake said without revealing details. “It’s a very important issue and those things are discussed only among the owners and the veterinarians.”

War Emblem refused to cover any mares in 2007. During the previous breeding season, he was bred to one mare successfully, but she did not become pregnant.

Shadai has previously tried moving War Emblem from its main stud farm on the island of Hokkaido to a nearby location in hopes a change of scene would alter his attitude. Other attempts to coax him into breeding have included allowing him to choose from several in-season mares presented to him simultaneously.

Specialists from the United States and Britain, including a chiropractor, have been brought in to examine and work with War Emblem, although not in recent months. Other than his lack of desire to breed, he is “100% healthy,” another Shadai spokesperson said, adding, “He looks well and is enjoying the Japanese winter and a lot of snow in his paddock.”

While Japanese bloodstock records show that War Emblem has been able to sire only 43 sons and daughters since he began his stud career in 2003, he already has six stakes runners to his credit.


When available, the stallion’s offspring have been well accepted by the commercial market in Japan. Of the 10 foals that have been sold at the elite Japan Racing Horse Association select sale, with eight in 2005 and two in ’06, average price has been 44.9 million yen, or $397,981. Three yearlings sold, with two in 2006 and one in ’07, have averaged 59,666,667 yen, or $514,170.

Barnfairy
Feb. 15, 2008, 11:57 AM
Hopefully they will sell him to a farm in the US (actually the insurance company owns part of him as they made a fertility claim) who will try to pasture breed him. Just turn him out with his own mares and see if nature will take its course over a couple of years. If it doesn't then he could go to Old Friends.That is exactly what I'm wishing for too.

JER
Feb. 15, 2008, 01:48 PM
Perhaps WE is a born-again and doesn't believe in sex outside of marriage.

grits
Feb. 15, 2008, 05:55 PM
I know that Michael Blowen is negotiating with the Shadai folks for WE. He's also raising money to pay the costs of transport, etc. and he has a set of WE's shoes, compliments of Shadai, to help with that effort.

Glimmerglass
Feb. 15, 2008, 06:02 PM
I know that Michael Blowen is negotiating with the Shadai folks for WE. He's also raising money to pay the costs of transport, etc. and he has a set of WE's shoes, compliments of Shadai, to help with that effort.

I like what Michael is doing with Old Friends and I've supported their mission, but I think that it's a waste of resources chasing after War Emblem. There are certainly other horses here in the States that are former champions at risk.

Why spend tens of thousands of dollars (if not much more with gift-in-kind services) trying to get a horse that is basically pampered in Japan? The same is true with Alysheba in Saudi Arabia.

Calamber
Feb. 15, 2008, 08:32 PM
I agree with you Glimmerglass, why indeed. They obviously like what little he does produce and are willing to try with him. He is well taken care of and valued. The same cannot be said for a number of non performing stallions here.

Sing Mia Song
Feb. 17, 2008, 10:14 PM
I thought I heard that they did try pasture breeding him, and he was about as disinterested in that as he was in hand breeding. He always was a cuss on the track, and he's one in retirement, too. He'd probably make an excellent John Henry successor, with his personality. :lol:

grits
Feb. 18, 2008, 12:13 PM
Maybe he's shy...or gay ;)

It's an old spoof, but always gives me a giggle.

http://outsports.com/wire/20030617waremblem.htm